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Lets say the Dell Venue does come out.. as stated
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetrev...ell-venue-launching-in-korea-this-month/20811
We do get our DVP as notified....
Whats the chance you wonderful Android Chefs out there could cook up an 2.2 Android ROM based on teh Dell Venue, that would work on the Dell Venue Pro, and still let us use our keyboard.. (DLL off Motorola Charm or Droid Pro maybe..?)
Just thinking out loud..
Please lets not start this "i want android" crap! If you want an android phone why not just buy one in the first place?
Maybe because he prefers Android with a Keyboard?
You probably prefer WP7, but Since Dell is releasing the Venue pro with Android there's a good chance the DVP will be able to run it too...
It's still XDA, cooking up roms is the one reason why we're here
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Maybe because he prefers Android with a Keyboard?
You probably prefer WP7, but Since Dell is releasing the Venue pro with Android there's a good chance the DVP will be able to run it too...
It's still XDA, cooking up roms is the one reason why we're here
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Epic 4G, G2, Droid Pro, rumoured Shift 4G - tons of options for android keyboard devices. No need to clutter the forum with the inevitable "WP7 is crap, android is better" BS that is in practically every other forum.
Well,
I'm with you, no need to clutter, but if you're in love with the look of the DVP but need the keyboard, that's the best option you have...
Guess making a sub-forum for this questions makes best for both worlds?
with the consensus android is a nice addition but definitely not needed. I am much happier with wp7
I ask because I LOVE the DVP form factor.. and I have three HUGE issues with WP7.
Tethering.. I HAVE to have a phone that tethers. Keeping two lines (one DVP and one my Dash3G) is BS.
Storage.. Why should I keep a thumb drive around when I have a phone with 8-32GB of storage ?
Customizing some basic things. Like not having all my pictures in the picture hub, ALL my facebook contacts in my People hub.. If I have some videos or pictures of a personal nature I would like a way to hide them from being easily seen in my hub should I want to show some less personal pictures to friends, etc..
That said, I personally am not a fan of Android.. and with my time with HD7 I found that I really like WP7 the 99% of the time I am using if for a phone, or texting, etc..
Personally I am seeing a lot of what WM7 could have been in andriod when it comes to customizations and other features. Heck looke at HTC sense on 6.5.3 and HTC sense on the EVO 4G. They arent that much different, heck if WM6.5 had added more active widgets and such, to a PRODUCTION phone it may not have been given such a bad rep. Look at the 3VO and other cooked ROMS here. A LOT of them are better than iOS or any Andriod I have used, but a lot of those features were never added to a production phone.
I digress.. when it comes to andriod.. the new Netfront UI for andriod looks awesome. There are also a ton of apps that simply arent being done for WP7 yet. So.. Long story short... I like personalizing and customizing my phone. I may get over that with WP7.. I may not. Be great if I had an option to play with a Andriod ROM on my DVP, and then go back to WP7 and so forth. Even be cooler if I had the ability to dual boot. But I doubt highly with the way WP7 deals with the SD cards that would be possible.
In any case not trying to get into a WM6 vs Andriod vs WP7 which is better conversation.. they all have thier pluses and minuses. Just curious if anyone thinks it would be possible to put andriod on a DVP should the need arise.
Or even better.. anyone try putting a WM6.5.3 ROM on a WP7 yet? I havent checked..
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Or even better.. anyone try putting a WM6.5.3 ROM on a WP7 yet?
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Just get an HD2 if you want WM 6.x.
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Just get an HD2 if you want WM 6.x.
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Would that be the one that fits in my hand perfectly.. and has a slide out portrait keyboard.. and a nice vibrant screen.. ? OR the fragile huge phone with no keyboard.
I guess I could get a new tilt2.. but it doesnt have a portait keyboard and a smaller darker screen.
The whole reason for this thread.. is the DVP is a UNIQUE form factor.. and one of the most beautiful phones I have ever owned. If they made it with WM6.5.3 it would be my first choice. But since they don't make it that way.. it would be awesome to have a Energy 6.5.3 Rom for the DVP Personally thats my favorite UI to date.
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Epic 4G, G2, Droid Pro, rumoured Shift 4G - tons of options for android keyboard devices. No need to clutter the forum with the inevitable "WP7 is crap, android is better" BS that is in practically every other forum.
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Agreed.. they are both good in thier own way.
Im starting to like WP7.. its just so different.
As I mentioned, personally I like WM6.5.3 but know I am in the minority there..
I was praying and crossing my fingers the HTC Throphy (The mock up from last year and not the WP7 phone) that would come out before WP7 launched. As that looked to be my ideal phone.
I only started this thread because if the Venue and Venue Pro ar the same hardware, I wouldn't mind trying Android on my DVP (and mybe play witht he Netfront UI and other things) and possibly switching back to WP7.
Although as I mentioned.. I would gladly pay if someone could find a way to boot the Latest WM6.x Energy Rom onto my DVP.. I would be in heaven then.
Engadget Hands-on with the Dell Venue:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/23/dell-venue-launched-in-hong-kong-we-go-hands-on/
Id pay some good money to see android on the dell venue pro. I like windows phone 7 but the OS is still a bit young.. there's certain things I like better on android and no im not trying to cause a debate or argument.. im just sayin, if the dell venue comes out, how hard would it be to make that compatible with the dvp..I love my dvp by the way, especially the slide out keyboard
It would be great if WP7 and Android can be run on Dell Venue and DVP.
Anyone try yet? Or has anyone gotten the ROM off a Dell Venue?
bump, I'd like to see this get done, and I'd pay some good money for it too!
Bump... Just wondering if anyone has rooted the Venue and figured a way to install on the DVP yet..?
I've started a Bounty on Android on the DVP here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13920817#post13920817
Please, contribute if you can!
I need a new phone, im poor lol.. so my choices are a HD2 or a Xperia X10, I love android, and I wanna know if the ROMs on the HD2 are as good as any other ROM for a native Android device.
Or am I better off with the X10?...
Thank u guyz.
Oh and is it hard to install Android on the HD2?
Well got both an X10 and an HD2,
Got an Desire HD Android build on my HD2 and i find it as smooth as on the X10.
Tbh, as you don't need to be root on Android HD2, I find it easier to tweak and you got more answers on the web whatever you are searching for.
So my vote would go to the HD2 + Android, as smooth, better screen, easier to tweak, a better feedback and you can still use the native WM or alternative Rom.
As for the installation, you just need to copy any Android build you want to try on your
MicroSD device and launch this.
Should work perfectly. (Just had to flash my radio because of a robot voice issue)
I'd get an HD2 simply for the development factor, you can get more kernels, ROMs, and builds and fixes.
You also have your choice of any winmo ROM if you want as an added bonus.
Android on HD2 is on par with Android on the X10 IMO, I would much rather have my HD2
You guyz are bomb!!!
Thanks a lot for the help!!!!! =D
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You guyz are bomb!!!
Thanks a lot for the help!!!!! =D
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no worries man, happy hunting
So the Nokia N9 is a beautiful peace of kit and Meego looks nice, but how much better would some ice cream sandwich be on that thing?
How hackable will the N9 be? I guess the main thing is, will anyone have one? Seeing as its not being released in a lot of places I can see it being hard to get a hold of...
I think that the nokia n9 is a nice phone and I do not understand why nokia do not use Android for its smartphone
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I think that the nokia n9 is a nice phone and I do not understand why nokia do not use Android for its smartphone
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It's simple, because Nokia has chosen Windows Phone as it main mobile OS.
As to why Nokia pick Windows over Android, it's simple too. Microsoft needs a great hardware partner to win, and Nokia needs a decent OS to survive. They need each other, and this situation gave Nokia lot of say and control in their hardware and future Windows Phone development. While Android is great, Android doesn't need Nokia and Nokia wouldn't stand a chance in the already super crowded Android ecosystem.
But anyway, the N9/Lumia800 is definitely the most beautiful smartphone I have seen in the last few years. The button-less N9 makes an ideal candidate for ICS. However, it's too expensive at the moment...
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But anyway, the N9/Lumia800 is definitely the most beautiful smartphone I have seen in the last few years. The button-less N9 makes an ideal candidate for ICS. However, it's too expensive at the moment...
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I already own what for me is the most beautiful Android phone - Xperia Arc. Just bought N9 yesterday as I couldn't resist not owning such a beautiful loooooking device that is also getting rave reviews.
N9 is just not a good looking device, it feels so f'in right in the hand. The screen, the feel all feel perfectly balanced. It makes my Arc look like a POS. While I love MeeGo so far, I still have lot of learning but frankly, Android messed me up so much that I feel it's hard to survive with other mobile OS if you know to use Android well.
I hope some genius out there can get ICS running on this beauty. Or, I hope Samsung shamelessly copies Nokia design as they are famous copy-cats!
yeah, when i saw buttonless n9 i immediately think about ics, they are perfect for each orthers, i used to be nokia fan, hope sone dev can make isc run on n9
Nokia e7 is my dream machine. With android of course. Or w7 so It can get eventually get android
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I would be down for a Nokia N9 if there was a crew like CM that would try to port android on to it. By realistically I don't think that will happen, phone's not available in the US, CAN, or UK. And getting it off ebay is roughly $650, but I just might get it, sigh...
After reading up on the N9 I couldn't resist and got one. I had the Sony Arc as well and I been with Nokia until they messed up with the n97. But the N9 is another monster, really sleek design the OS is beautiful and colors on the screen really jumps. The black color looks really vivid and nice. I am now waiting for someone to hack android or can port android apps to the N9.
I would buy an n9 if someone ported ICS... just too nice a piece of kit to not own
Def a pretty phone. Android should really be present.
i will get n9, if someone port ics on it.
i'm working in high tech store in Italy and officially the N9 is not sold there, but we got one in the shop and is amazing; i really fell in love with that phone (you can never forget your first love )
i do want to buy it for myself, but what it bothers me is the lack of possible applications to install on the phone. an android porting on that device will be amazing.
is there a crazy guy that has tried an android porting on that device before?
also the original meego software looks pretty well and hands on runs smoothly and seems not having trouble at all, but i had only a quick 5 minutes test on the phone. what worries me is that the phone will left alone with no further support because it's the only one with meego software.
already done look at this video with meego operating 5 different OS search nokia on google and u will the link
Yeah I had SGS2 and got an N9 instead, mainly BECAUSE of the OS.
Android is slow on appswitching (at least the versions Ive run, where youd have to either exit the app, open task manager, then select from a list of icons, or you could hold the menubutton for a bit, then select an app from a list of icons).
ICS might be different, I have no idea how taskswitching is done on it.
However, I will say that the N9 rocks ass and it would be fun to dualboot ICS/Harmattan.
Also, to the above poster, its not allready done. A chinese fake version of the N9 with a 3.8" resistive touchscreen, dualsim and 1.3mp camera can, though. Also it comes with porn and talking tomcat. So theres that.
Just had to throw my hat into the ring. I am ridiculously tempted to purchase the N9. Damn thing is just too attractive.
I was really hoping for some community love but that may just be due to my HD2. Leo users have been Spoilt Rotten.
I see even a hint of android development and caution is out the window. Take my money.
Man I hope they boot leg the E7!
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Yeah I had SGS2 and got an N9 instead, mainly BECAUSE of the OS.
Android is slow on appswitching (at least the versions Ive run, where youd have to either exit the app, open task manager, then select from a list of icons, or you could hold the menubutton for a bit, then select an app from a list of icons).
ICS might be different, I have no idea how taskswitching is done on it.
However, I will say that the N9 rocks ass and it would be fun to dualboot ICS/Harmattan.
Also, to the above poster, its not allready done. A chinese fake version of the N9 with a 3.8" resistive touchscreen, dualsim and 1.3mp camera can, though. Also it comes with porn and talking tomcat. So theres that.
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In the mean time i got an N9 for christmas, and the MeeGo OS built in is working pretty good, ha some features that i really love, like completely unified address book and unified messaging system, which slows me to modify the device.
On the other side, the are really few apps developed for meego os, that really pushes me to switch to another OS...
Mmm hard choice...
Awerellwv I bring your attention to Alien Dalvik(google it I cant post links)
Running android apps at native speed seems to negate the lack of apps issue. Assuming it all works as planned.
I've convinced myself I want an N9. Possibly just because that Cyan model looks fantastic. I would really love to see ongoing android development though, Knowing the device would keep up with the times is a big deal.
Now to just find the right price. If you really want to switch phones(and you have a cyan N9) I would be interested.
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Awerellwv I bring your attention to Alien Dalvik(google it I cant post links)
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Definitely i will google a bit about him, thanks for the suggestion
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If you really want to switch phones(and you have a cyan N9) I would be interested.
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i have the cyan one in the shop, but i bought for myself the black one, which looks every day better and better. Have to admit, tough, that the cyan one looks gorgeus, i will suggest bo buy it if you don't plan to use covers for the phone.
White 64GB N9
I have had since a few days the latest white 64GB version of the N9 and I must say, it's quite an incredible device!
I can't even imagine why Nokia went the WP7 way (beside some fresh cash certainly paid by M$).
Of course, there are still some functions & details missing and some things to iron out with Meego (like with WP7), but it's a very stable and fast OS (I'm impressed how fast Opera is loading!). I must add that it's still loaded with the 10.2011.34 Harmattan version, the latest 20.2011.40 hasn't yet been released for this specific model.
I just love the 3 screens idea, especially the "running tasks" screen, where you have access to all of the running apps and can either switch to the wanted one or close it/them. Why is it so complicated for other OS's to implement such a simple and easily accessible task manager??
The only downside I can see is the lack of applications. Only the true Linux developers will continue porting apps to this wonderful smartphone, and if we could get android applications to run on it, it would be great. And when I say run on it, it's preferably run on Meego, using Alien Dalvik or whatever other way.
If this is not possible, of course dual booting or ICS alone would be a solution, although I like the fact we're running an almost pure Linux/Debian machine, with an interesting touchscreen interface.
Hopefully Nokia will keep reading all of the N9 dedicated forums and will keep a Meego (or whatever it will be named in the future) branch of handsets, and of course supporting it/us.
hi , does enyone know if there will be a port from android to lumia ?
because that would be pretty cool , having te possibilit yto run android on this epic phone
i love WP7 but there arent that many awesome apps , so thats why i would love the possibility to run android
anywayz , have fun with your phone !
and i know this isnt Q&A but that forum doesnt exist yet so i post this Q here
grtz
It will never happen. Two completely different systems. I'm coming from Android and I for one would not want to ruin this phone with putting Android on it. I find WP7 so much more modern and refreshing.
I do not miss force closes nor lag.
I'm not negative to the possibility. I'm just sure it's not possible.
Hi,
I don't think it will happen. Due to there not being that many developers for the lumia. I also thing most of the hardware could be used in android, Seeing as the HTC Desire S and the Sony Xperia Arc use the MSM8255 Snapdragon(but i could be wrong, I have only really started developing).
I just dont see any real advantage of running Android on the Lumia. It is already a great device. I could only see thing going downhill if you did. Your device would have alot of lag plus the lumia only has 512mb of ram. And everybody that has used android will tell you 512mb of ram is sufficiant but not enough to run smoothly or run any intense apps.
You could, but you'd have to ask Dark Forces Team and Cotulla to release either a port of MAGLDR or the source to it to modify the chain boot loader.
Something I'd love to see but doubt we will ever see. I personally just got a Lumia 800 and although it's a nice phone the software lapses too much and in too many places so back to Android I go...even if it is the newer Android which is skinned over and too customised!
As I know the bootloader of lumia is very secured and will not allow modifications like dualOS booting.
1. You are crazy.
2. People always want what they can't get.
Technically it is possible. We have already seen examples of porting Android to older WM devices, like HTC HD2, HTC Touch Cruise, but it involves a lot of work and knowledge in system hacking.
Once you have cracked bootloader you can boot whatever you want. All you need to do is to find a device with the same chipset already running Android and port it over. Of course there will be many driver problems like non working, BT, WiFi, camera etc, but hey, what did you expect.
I bet that there is the same question in Nexus forums - How can we port WP7 to Galaxy Nexus
If you want the Lumia with android, sell it and buy the Nokia N9
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/10/nokia-n9-spotted-running-ice-cream-sandwich-dual-boot-in-the-wo/
damn i should hav bouth the n9 :/
would hav been better...but i still love this baby..
about time till the OS is opened up for new features....
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damn i should hav bouth the n9 :/
would hav been better...but i still love this baby..
about time till the OS is opened up for new features....
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hi , does enyone know if there will be a port from android to lumia ?
because that would be pretty cool , having te possibilit yto run android on this epic phone
i love WP7 but there arent that many awesome apps , so thats why i would love the possibility to run android
anywayz , have fun with your phone !
and i know this isnt Q&A but that forum doesnt exist yet so i post this Q here
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You're both crazy, why didn't you just go Android? Strange people?
Yeah I bought this phone to get rid of Andrpid myself. I'm so sick of it!
Why the hell would you want freakin' Android to run on a WP like this?? You're crazy, that's clear
Android only has negative sides, WP is refreshing and smooth. I don't see ANY reason why you would want Android to mess up this beatiful phone.
Okay, I'm an Android hater, that's clear, but let me point it out:
Android is a copy of iOS (it's just boring)
It lags all the way
You need a nuclear power plant to keep it running for 1 day
The user experience is not consistent on all devices (not even with the same OEM!!)
Updates? Yes, if you do it all yourself
Open? Oh, thank you for your openness Android, and the malware...
I can go on if you'd like, but I think it's clear why I don't see this as a good idea...
Lol, that was one of the dumbest trollings I've seen, _Madmatt.
For me its WP which only has negative sides. Its locked, limited, the interface is counter intuitive in many places, can't multitask properly, most apps are inferior to android ones, upgrades are rolled out slowly and with the locked product codes you never know if you'll get the next one, etc.
Ah, and android is no copy of iOS, but the wp7 tiles ARE a copy of android widgets, with some functionality removed.
As for the hardware of the lumia 800, it is superior to my 2 years old N1, with a better CPU, GPU, and the same memory. And my N1 flies running MIUI, so even a crippled phone like this should even be better.
Why did I get a Lumia? I was offered it, tried to use it for some time, gave up, gave it to the wife, who is now begging for me to give her her blade back. Even the better screen and camera were insufficient to convince her to keep using the Lumia. She keeps complaining of the apps, of the terrible battery, of being unable to do anything. Even changing a ringtone is a mess, having to cut and resample a MP3 file before being able to use it as a ringtone.
So, it seems like the Lumia will end in a drawer until someone manages to port android or meego to it. Unfortunately as it was a gift I can't sell it, or it would be gone by now.
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Lol, that was one of the dumbest trollings I've seen, _Madmatt.
For me its WP which only has negative sides. Its locked, limited, the interface is counter intuitive in many places, can't multitask properly, most apps are inferior to android ones, upgrades are rolled out slowly and with the locked product codes you never know if you'll get the next one, etc.
Ah, and android is no copy of iOS, but the wp7 tiles ARE a copy of android widgets, with some functionality removed.
As for the hardware of the lumia 800, it is superior to my 2 years old N1, with a better CPU, GPU, and the same memory. And my N1 flies running MIUI, so even a crippled phone like this should even be better.
Why did I get a Lumia? I was offered it, tried to use it for some time, gave up, gave it to the wife, who is now begging for me to give her her blade back. Even the better screen and camera were insufficient to convince her to keep using the Lumia. She keeps complaining of the apps, of the terrible battery, of being unable to do anything. Even changing a ringtone is a mess, having to cut and resample a MP3 file before being able to use it as a ringtone.
So, it seems like the Lumia will end in a drawer until someone manages to port android or meego to it. Unfortunately as it was a gift I can't sell it, or it would be gone by now.
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If you really want to get rid of it, you can always ship it my way..
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If you really want to get rid of it, you can always ship it my way..
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Sure, send me a Galaxy SII or a a Galaxy Nexus and we have a deal.
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Sure, send me a Galaxy SII or a a Galaxy Nexus and we have a deal.
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LOL, you think I have such things? No way mate
Android and WP7 are two completely different beasts. No point in comparing them it's all about personal preference.
I come from Android and WP7 suits me so much better even though I liked the freedom of Android compared to WP. I rooted and flashed roms like crazy. But I got tired of acting beta tester. So much bugs here and there on Android. Specially if running custom roms.
Sure there are more apps also with more functionality. But I prefer the metro styled WP7 apps as they most often fit the design of the OS. That can't be said about Android apps. Often ugly and no one looks the same making the user experience much worse.
The lagg was the biggest issue for me with Android though. No matter the hardware (SGSII) there is always lag because of how the Android OS is built up. Even ICS won't fix this fully with its hardware acceleration. This is a area where Google has failed. Giving a smooth user experience. Both iPhone and WP7 has this and understand its importance but Android can't unless they rebuild it from the ground which I don't think will ever happen.
Completely agree with ^^
I was active Android ROM builder, tester, themer etc for more than 2 years., but I think I just got tired of endless battle with force closes and laags. The biggest problem with android is that it does not run on native code but on interpreted layer dalvikvm. You can try as hard as you want, but you will always need double horse power for the same tasks on other platforms.
That's also explains why WP7 is perfectly smooth with x2 less CPU and RAM while latest Google flagship with nearly desktop PC power suffers laagspikes here and there. While those small laag spikes are less visible on smartphones things are just getting worse with tablets. Today there is no tablet running Android which can render UI transitions with 60fps.
You can read a blog from ex Google employee about that.
How about some Android graphics true facts?
I agree with you guys,after using android from G1,htc hero,desire S,nexus one,sg1 and 2,galaxy nexus,lg optimus black and apple 4 and 3gs with all the cusotm roms and modifications none of them stand above wp7 smoothness. I can say i never had a lag on my phone ever,where android and ios would lag here and there. Again e-mail aplication is just a joy to use,and all the animation how they smooth transit...it never stops to impress me. Ofcourse it has some shortcomings but definatelly will get better,especially with nokia's help.Aplication wise,well i don't use that many apps but the one i used definatelly looked better than android and apple,it's like the have more soul and not look so dull and borring.
At first i did not like the idea Nokia refused android but now i see that they done the right decision,i see it no better.
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I come from Android and WP7 suits me so much better even though I liked the freedom of Android compared to WP. I rooted and flashed roms like crazy. But I got tired of acting beta tester. So much bugs here and there on Android. Specially if running custom roms.
Sure there are more apps also with more functionality. But I prefer the metro styled WP7 apps as they most often fit the design of the OS. That can't be said about Android apps. Often ugly and no one looks the same making the user experience much worse.
The lagg was the biggest issue for me with Android though. No matter the hardware (SGSII) there is always lag because of how the Android OS is built up.
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Well said. I had got used to the lag and didn't realise how bad it was until I got the Lumia.
I got sick of flashing ROMS too. CM7 was nice and stable, but when ICS roms came out I got sucked in. The gapps are all facelifted and are a lot nicer than Gingerbread. But then the ICS roms all have their issues and it just gets annoying.
Im using the surface pro 3 and want a windows phone is the Nokia 930 better than the Samsung Note 3?
Thanks for all yah inputs.
Merry Xmas
You cant compare Windows Phone and Android devices... is totally different... Windows Phone OS is very stable and safe (no viruses or malware) but not have visual or any customization as Android OS... also for some Android users is very difficult to switch to WP if expected to be all the same as on android... for my PoV, WP is much better than android and i love it. if you not see how WP works, try see online demo http://try.nokia.com/#en-GB
This isn't a fair comparison. What it REALLY comes down to is the UI experience. Personally I like Android, and I own a Note 3. I like the customization and the UI of it. I’ve preferred, and will likely still prefer, Android as my mobile OS. Keep in mind that I root my phone and install most robust versions of the ROMs.
I’m not as familiar with the WP OS. I bought a 920 from eBay for fun and to give it a go. From what little I can tell there isn’t as large of an app selection but the WP base is growing with great phones being sold. The UI seems simple but not in a bad way. I’ve worked with a guy that preferred the WP OS over the Android but as I say it’s a personal choice.
Play with both phones and see which is best for you.