With updates of ROMs being released so quickly, and not wanting to update rather than flash the full ROM, I'm going to start backing up using Titanium Backup.
I am quite happy to backup absolutely everything, but am cautious about restoring things like system settings. Ideally what I would like is to be able to restore all the apps that I had before, their data, and possibly the layout of my homescreens.
How would I do this?
Is there anything I should probably not restore that could mess things up?
Thanks a lot for any replies.
You can backup all apps and data and then restore them later, without worrying about side-effects. This backup will include your launcher and therefore screen layouts, but will not include widgets. You'll need to add them again manually after you restore (it's a permission thing - nothing other that your is allowed to put widgets on your home screens).
System settings is a different story. If you're going from one ROM to another, or changing FW, there could be conflicts and it could cause problems. I tend to always have a backup and only restore system settings if I need to factory reset for some reason.
If you haven't already, I'd strongly recommend paying for the pro version, as it can become very boring having to click a couple of buttons for every app you want to restore. The pro version does all apps without the need for interaction.
The easiest way is this: go into titanium backup and press the menu bitten on your phone. Then press batch. Then look for something that says backup all user apps. Click the bitten next to that that says run. Then check 'backup user apps + data' and then uncheck any apps you don't want backed up, and then click run on the bottom. This will backup all your downloaded apps and data, like saved games, etc. You can also do the same things for system apps, but I can't guarantee that they will all work. Hope this helps
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If you haven't already, I'd strongly recommend paying for the pro version, as it can become very boring having to click a couple of buttons for every app you want to restore. The pro version does all apps without the need for interaction.
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If you click batch all your apps are selected so you can backup all your apps with 1 clicks, even with the unpaid version. However with the paid version you can set up scheduled backups so it will backup automatically every week, or whenever you set it to
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If you click batch all your apps are selected so you can backup all your apps with 1 clicks, even with the unpaid version. However with the paid version you can set up scheduled backups so it will backup automatically every week, or whenever you set it to
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I was talking about restoring, not backing up. Have you ever restored 200 apps with the unpaid version? It's VERY boring
johncmolyneux said:
You can backup all apps and data and then restore them later, without worrying about side-effects. This backup will include your launcher and therefore screen layouts, but will not include widgets. You'll need to add them again manually after you restore (it's a permission thing - nothing other that your is allowed to put widgets on your home screens).
System settings is a different story. If you're going from one ROM to another, or changing FW, there could be conflicts and it could cause problems. I tend to always have a backup and only restore system settings if I need to factory reset for some reason.
If you haven't already, I'd strongly recommend paying for the pro version, as it can become very boring having to click a couple of buttons for every app you want to restore. The pro version does all apps without the need for interaction.
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Thanks XD) but I'm talking more about the restore aspect.
@johncmolyneux
Thanks for your help. So I'm thinking the process will be along the lines of:
backup/restore > batch > backup all user apps
then
batch > restore missing apps with data > selecting app+ data
I will almost certainly buy the pro version of this app, as I'll be using it a lot.
One thing I am particularly anal about is restoring my vast collection of texts going back about 3 years - will restoring the GoSMS app and its data include all these. Probably obvious but I thought I'd ask just to make sure.
Also, I keep getting a message saying that I should check usb debugging as it might cause problems. What's that all about?
Thanks again.
str0ppy said:
Thanks XD) but I'm talking more about the restore aspect.
@johncmolyneux
Thanks for your help. So I'm thinking the process will be along the lines of:
backup/restore > batch > backup all user apps
then
batch > restore missing apps with data > selecting app+ data
I will almost certainly buy the pro version of this app, as I'll be using it a lot.
One thing I am particularly anal about is restoring my vast collection of texts going back about 3 years - will restoring the GoSMS app and its data include all these. Probably obvious but I thought I'd ask just to make sure.
Also, I keep getting a message saying that I should check usb debugging as it might cause problems. What's that all about?
Thanks again.
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That's the process mate - you've got it.
Titanium Backup requires that you have USB debugging enabled, which you get to via Settings, Applications, Development.
As for backing up and restoring text messages, I simply could not recommend any higher an application called SMS Backup+ (free in the Market). It creates a folder in your Gmail account and automatically uploads all text messages to that folder. You can do a restore whenever you like. It's seamless and works perfectly. If you want to keep SMS then look no further! I've gone over easily 30 ROM flashes with it, and now a new phone, and have never lost a single message.
It also means, of course, that you can access you SMS from any browser, which is nice (Can't send from gmail though.)
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That's the process mate - you've got it.
Titanium Backup requires that you have USB debugging enabled, which you get to via Settings, Applications, Development.
As for backing up and restoring text messages, I simply could not recommend any higher an application called SMS Backup+ (free in the Market). It creates a folder in your Gmail account and automatically uploads all text messages to that folder. You can do a restore whenever you like. It's seamless and works perfectly. If you want to keep SMS then look no further! I've gone over easily 30 ROM flashes with it, and now a new phone, and have never lost a single message.
It also means, of course, that you can access you SMS from any browser, which is nice (Can't send from gmail though.)
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Ok, last question. Can I just have usb debugging enabled at the time that I backup and at the time that I restore. I prefer to not have it checked generally - lots of annoying pop up messages on my PC at work etc...
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Ok, last question. Can I just have usb debugging enabled at the time that I backup and at the time that I restore. I prefer to not have it checked generally - lots of annoying pop up messages on my PC at work etc...
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Long time since I've clicked "thanks" instead of quote! Have a thanks
Yes mate - you can just turn it on and off for Titanium.
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Long time since I've clicked "thanks" instead of quote! Have a thanks
Yes mate - you can just turn it on and off for Titanium.
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Top man. Thanks again.
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Top man. Thanks again.
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No problem mate. Enjoy
Ok so one last question. I understand that Titanium Backup will save the data for my third party launcher, so will preserver all the homescreen arrangments. But if I use TouchWiz, would that count as a system and therefore not preserved if I only backed up and restored user apps and data?
Cheers.
str0ppy said:
Ok so one last question. I understand that Titanium Backup will save the data for my third party launcher, so will preserver all the homescreen arrangments. But if I use TouchWiz, would that count as a system and therefore not preserved if I only backed up and restored user apps and data?
Cheers.
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You might be able to backup and restore the data for touchwizz, not tried.
As far as system data, if the item is green in titanium is ok to restore, if its red, beware.
AFAIK, TouchWiz is just another launcher, so you should be okay to restore, but pay attention to the item colour, as mentioned by veyka.
Ok thanks a lot. Man of many questions at the moment, quite new to Android.
So last one...
When I set up the OS from scratch after a flash, when I get the option to either backup/restore to my Google account, what actually gets backed up then?
Cheers.
str0ppy said:
Ok thanks a lot. Man of many questions at the moment, quite new to Android.
So last one...
When I set up the OS from scratch after a flash, when I get the option to either backup/restore to my Google account, what actually gets backed up then?
Cheers.
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I'm not sure about this one as I've seen different things happen. Sometimes, I've had apps installed again after a new ROM flash, but other times that hasn't happened. I've also had inconsistent results with restoring wifi settings. The only thing I generally rely on Google to store is my contacts. Other than that, I use Titanium for everything, just to be sure.
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I'm not sure about this one as I've seen different things happen. Sometimes, I've had apps installed again after a new ROM flash, but other times that hasn't happened. I've also had inconsistent results with restoring wifi settings. The only thing I generally rely on Google to store is my contacts. Other than that, I use Titanium for everything, just to be sure.
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Ok, thanks.
Hi
I flashed the ParanoidAndroid 2.55cm (4.1.2):
I have Apex launcher pro and Titanium Backup ★ root pro.I made a TB backup in cm9 . I restored all of apps and data and it went well on ParanoidAndroid 2.55cm (4.1.2):. But
I would like to know how to restore all the widgets on ParanoidAndroid 2.55cm with Apex launcher pro home screens ?
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Hey guys,
I have edited this because the developer has showed me how to do what I was asking... so for your sake, I will spare you my previous pain, skip to Joel's response lower down...
have fun!
Mark.
I`ve tried around for this but found nothing. My backup pro is supposed to backup your home screen , but never worked for me. maybe it works on clean android without sense. I`ve tried titanium , but never thought that was the greatest either. Usually i restore apps from my backup ,and then go into app manager to find each in market and install again.
The missing backup of scenes in sense is it`s greatest fault if you ask me.
The best way to backup and restore everything is by using Titanium Backup, Also you could use SMS Backup & Restore for text messages.
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The best way to backup and restore everything is by using Titanium Backup, Also you could use SMS Backup & Restore for text messages.
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Hello Mike
The trouble is that Titanium does not backup your Android Home screen/ Sense home screen layouts... It may do if you restore the whole system info, but you should never do that when upgrading or using a different ROM because you might be installing or replacing files which are different/newer etc... and would cause stability problems. I agree RUI, A basic app or button in Titanium to backup your screen layouts is a major omission IMO.
Mark.
Hi livegod,
You can backup the Sense "Scenes" by filtering for System items (MENU -> Filters) and then selecting the item named "[DESKTOP] HTC Sense 1.00".
Note that after restoring such system items, a reboot is needed for the changes to take effect.
In Titanium Backup, about 99% of the phone's useful data is included in the list of items. You just need to pick the right ones
Usually you use Batch mode to backup all the *user* apps, and then you backup most green *system* items one by one.
For restoring you don't need to do it one by one: just open MENU->Batch, scroll a bit and use "Restore missing apps + all system data". That should pretty much do it in 1 click - or a few more clicks if you don't have the Donate version.
Thanks and have fun !
joel.bourquard said:
Hi livegod,
You can backup the Sense "Scenes" by filtering for System items (MENU -> Filters) and then selecting the item named "[DESKTOP] HTC Sense 1.00".
Thanks and have fun !
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Thanks Joel, that works!!!
I have bought your app now, its sooo worth it... especially since restoring ALL my apps is automatic, no need to press INSTALL and DONE with each app... and then saving my Sense Scenes is brilliant.
WRT Email settings, I tried restoring two RED items Google Mail 1.3 and Google Storage 2.1 and Mail 2.0 and Mail sidget 2.1, but my Mail programme still tells me there are no accounts set up yet. It would be great to aviod having to set up all the accounts again, Mail and Facebook particularly. I cant find useful restore data for either though...
Thanks,
Mark.
Hi Joel,
do you know if titanium pro can restore-install to SD card instead of internal drive?
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Mark.
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apps2sd is transparent for the system. you either use it or don't, you can not choose each time. if you use it titanium backup will install the apps there.
if that is what you meant...
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apps2sd is transparent for the system. you either use it or don't, you can not choose each time. if you use it titanium backup will install the apps there.
if that is what you meant...
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Hi
well, I have a rom which is supposed to be app2sd but my system only has 16mb left! so I am wondering if I backup my apps in Titanium, UNINSTALL all and then REinstall, would Titanium install them on the SD instead of the internal memory?
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Mark
Has anyone noticed that when you restore your home screen, there are 2 copies of each shortcut/icon/folder/etc on the screen?
I guess it's still easier than having to reconfigure our home screens but it would be cool if it didn't create duplicate copies of everything.
Other than that, great app!
I haven't tested the "auto" restore tip yet. A few more bugs worked out and I'm close to paying the author for this great app!
Thanks!
Oops, I just noticed that this isn't the Evo section (Google search took me here).
Neo3D said:
Has anyone noticed that when you restore your home screen, there are 2 copies of each shortcut/icon/folder/etc on the screen?
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I got that when I had basically selected *everything* to back up.
After nandroid restoring, when I went back and just backed up the recommended user apps and sys data, the TB restore went fine with only one copy.
I'll see how it works next time I need to do it.
I'm sure that there are several out there that have a fair amount of customization scattered across the 7 screens. I typically group similar apps in Folders. Anyway, from the 7-8 search phrases I tried there was nothing useful that came up in the TB forums.
Will I have to reconfigure my screens every time I flash a ROM or is there a way to restore the icon/app arrangement? I'm not worried about the middle/home screen just the other 6.
Back when I used a WinMo phone I relied on Sashimi to handle all the icon/screen arrangements; or did it manually using a file explorer. Obviously the Droid directory/config structure is quite different. Not to mention that efforts to locate an app analogous to MyMobilier have turned up dust.
i use titanium backup. you can back up all your apps and there data as well as stuff like homescreens accounts wifi spots etc. when you need to pick which things to backup get all user apps and all the green system data. then restore it all when you switch roms.
dak_181 said:
i use titanium backup. you can back up all your apps and there data as well as stuff like homescreens accounts wifi spots etc. when you need to pick which things to backup get all user apps and all the green system data. then restore it all when you switch roms.
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But it won't put back your widgets. I've heard of nothing that will.
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But it won't put back your widgets. I've heard of nothing that will.
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Widgets are live feeds so no is a limitation for now, best bet is what the other poster said
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I don't think there's anything that will restore widgets.
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it restores stock widgets and gives a little error screen for where other ones are. seriously how hard is it to re set like 2 or three widgets really?
Yeah mine came back with batch restore on titanium but like it was said. Other than stock needed to be manually added
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Agreed on the restore aspect of TiBu. I'm not too bad of a flash junkie so I'll deal for now. Still trying to dig up info on why the Market doesn't show my 40-50 downloaded apps after a flash and google sync though. I did get my app icons/folders restored to the Sense screens w/ TiBu, but it trashed the BAMF3.0 default. I have screen captures from ShootMe so I can manually restore the look next time I flash. Thanks for the replies.
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Agreed on the restore aspect of TiBu. I'm not too bad of a flash junkie so I'll deal for now. Still trying to dig up info on why the Market doesn't show my 40-50 downloaded apps after a flash and google sync though. I did get my app icons/folders restored to the Sense screens w/ TiBu, but it trashed the BAMF3.0 default. I have screen captures from ShootMe so I can manually restore the look next time I flash. Thanks for the replies.
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yeah i dunno about apps, but market.google.com will show you everything youve ever downloaded
True. Just wasn't crazy about clicking every single one to get them back after a flash. Hopefully the hurry-up-n-wait method suggested elsewhere will work; could take a couple of hours to "fully-sync" after a flash.
ProfEngr said:
I'm sure that there are several out there that have a fair amount of customization scattered across the 7 screens. I typically group similar apps in Folders. Anyway, from the 7-8 search phrases I tried there was nothing useful that came up in the TB forums.
Will I have to reconfigure my screens every time I flash a ROM or is there a way to restore the icon/app arrangement? I'm not worried about the middle/home screen just the other 6.
Back when I used a WinMo phone I relied on Sashimi to handle all the icon/screen arrangements; or did it manually using a file explorer. Obviously the Droid directory/config structure is quite different. Not to mention that efforts to locate an app analogous to MyMobilier have turned up dust.
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I use LauncherPro (free version in market) and there is an option to back up your screens (menu/preferences/backup home screen & settings). Does not do widgets, but I don't have a problem adding the few back that I do use.
After I flash a ROM I get all my apps back either via TiBackup or the market and once I switch to Launcher Pro as my home screen program I just do menu/preferences/restore backup and all my little icons are back where they should be.
Just make sure you restore the LPro backup AFTER you restore your apps or the backup won't be able to point to the right app.
Hi Guys,
The iphone had itunes where whenever you update to a new IOS, it will restore everything with a simple click (contacts, sms, apps, settings, everything etc). From what I have read, Titanium backup seems to do this however, it requires root access. As well, I've tried to use the PC Companion backup/restore function, while it claims that it backed up my text messages, when I tried to restore, all it did was restore my pictures, it seems to restore nothing else. Therefore, my question is, is there a program available that will do a FULL backup/restore without the need for root access?
bill1clinton said:
Hi Guys,
The iphone had itunes where whenever you update to a new IOS, it will restore everything with a simple click (contacts, sms, apps, settings, everything etc). From what I have read, Titanium backup seems to do this however, it requires root access. As well, I've tried to use the PC Companion backup/restore function, while it claims that it backed up my text messages, when I tried to restore, all it did was restore my pictures, it seems to restore nothing else. Therefore, my question is, is there a program available that will do a FULL backup/restore without the need for root access?
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No. You need root and/or unlocked bootloader (for using CWM) to do a full backup.
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Mybackup allows you to back up applications & media and data. To backup images of the ROM you'll need xRecovery and thats not possible in your case as the guy above me mentioned clearly.
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bill1clinton said:
Hi Guys,
The iphone had itunes where whenever you update to a new IOS, it will restore everything with a simple click (contacts, sms, apps, settings, everything etc). From what I have read, Titanium backup seems to do this however, it requires root access. As well, I've tried to use the PC Companion backup/restore function, while it claims that it backed up my text messages, when I tried to restore, all it did was restore my pictures, it seems to restore nothing else. Therefore, my question is, is there a program available that will do a FULL backup/restore without the need for root access?
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A simple answer is NO. You need root access to backup application data.
When I saw the Backup & Restore option under PC Companion, like you I also wa delighted and tested it for disappointment.
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Mybackup allows you to back up applications & media and data. To backup images of the ROM you'll need xRecovery and thats not possible in your case as the guy above me mentioned clearly.
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I don't need to backup the ROM. I only want things such as contacts, sms, settings, apps backed up.
I do apologizes if I sound like I'm being an Apple fanboy. However, as restrictive and annoying itunes was, it certainly did an excellent job in getting you up and running very quickly and easily.
bill1clinton said:
I don't need to backup the ROM. I only want things such as contacts, sms, settings, apps backed up.
I do apologizes if I sound like I'm being an Apple fanboy. However, as restrictive and annoying itunes was, it certainly did an excellent job in getting you up and running very quickly and easily.
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Agreed on your point with iTunes, but the concept of Google is to keep as much as possible off to the cloud.
There are plenty of apps out there on the Play store.
I use SMS Backup & Restore to backup SMS. It does a pretty good job and it can be scheduled as well if you like.
Contacts can be sync to Google and again, you can export the contacts to SD Card if you prefer that way.
The applications and their data (if allowed by the developer), settings are also can be backed up to the Google servers if you enable the option Settings --> Privacy --> Back up my data. I tested this and majority of the apps don't support it, yet. I guess app developers will support in the future.
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Agreed on your point with iTunes, but the concept of Google is to keep as much as possible off to the cloud.
There are plenty of apps out there on the Play store.
I use SMS Backup & Restore to backup SMS. It does a pretty good job and it can be scheduled as well if you like.
Contacts can be sync to Google and again, you can export the contacts to SD Card if you prefer that way.
The applications and their data (if allowed by the developer), settings are also can be backed up to the Google servers if you enable the option Settings --> Privacy --> Back up my data. I tested this and majority of the apps don't support it, yet. I guess app developers will support in the future.
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Thanks for the helpful advice. I certainly do appreciate it. If I may though, Android being that much more customizable then iOS, I find it rather strange that there is no program that serves the same purpose as iTunes. I love how much I can customize my experience with Android, however, it certainly presents quite a significant annoyance when there is a need to re-do all your customization just because you updated to a new firmware. Once again, not trying to troll, just puzzled.
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Thanks for the helpful advice. I certainly do appreciate it. If I may though, Android being that much more customizable then iOS, I find it rather strange that there is no program that serves the same purpose as iTunes. I love how much I can customize my experience with Android, however, it certainly presents quite a significant annoyance when there is a need to re-do all your customization just because you updated to a new firmware. Once again, not trying to troll, just puzzled.
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Oh, definitely not trolling - it really is annoying. Especially when there's an option in Android to "back up all my settings and application data to the cloud" but it does not back up all savegames, nor SMS, etc etc. Much like you, I kinda expected a bit more here.
This is probably why SE put in it's own backup/restore service.
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Thanks for the helpful advice. I certainly do appreciate it. If I may though, Android being that much more customizable then iOS, I find it rather strange that there is no program that serves the same purpose as iTunes. I love how much I can customize my experience with Android, however, it certainly presents quite a significant annoyance when there is a need to re-do all your customization just because you updated to a new firmware. Once again, not trying to troll, just puzzled.
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Oh, definitely not trolling - it really is annoying. Especially when there's an option in Android to "back up all my settings and application data to the cloud" but it does not back up all savegames, nor SMS, etc etc. Much like you, I kinda expected a bit more here.
This is probably why SE put in it's own backup/restore service.
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From the day I bought my first Android phone (X10), I've been puzzling and searching for this very answer and the same software an option like you mentioned. But until today, I haven't found one.
But I'm pretty sure that Google will surely hear this and will implement a new one or improve the existing one. Until those days come....
I came across a guide on how to back up everything on the galaxy nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
I don't have a galaxy nexus & I haven't tried it myself.
I found freeware software that lets you backup apps (and you don't need to download the additional data when you restore them), texts and contacts, which worked pretty fast and didn't crash or hang like PC Companion tends to do.
It's called Wondershare MobileGO.
http://www.wondershare.com/android-manager/
May not be completely what you had in mind as it doesn't backup settings and such, but at least you don't need root and it backs up quite a lot of useful stuff.
Snmjm said:
I came across a guide on how to back up everything on the galaxy nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
I don't have a galaxy nexus & I haven't tried it myself.
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I guess it only works in ICS. Tried it on XS and get an error "adb: cannot open file ./backup.ab" (of course, I tried the solution provided in the thread, but didn't work).
I'm sure it's been discussed, but search gives too many results to find what I'm looking for, and it seems that the procedure is phone- specific.
I've been a long time CleanROM user, finally decided to upgrade to ICS based ROM.
I did upgrade without wiping data and Sense didn't work at all. After wiping and reinstall everything worked, but of course all m data was gone. I restored "all system data" from backup, and it killed Sense again.
So, what subset of the system data can I safely restore? I need things like SMS and call logs, bluetooth and wifi pairings, user account info entered in apps and so on.
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I'm sure it's been discussed, but search gives too many results to find what I'm looking for, and it seems that the procedure is phone- specific.
I've been a long time CleanROM user, finally decided to upgrade to ICS based ROM.
I did upgrade without wiping data and Sense didn't work at all. After wiping and reinstall everything worked, but of course all m data was gone. I restored "all system data" from backup, and it killed Sense again.
So, what subset of the system data can I safely restore? I need things like SMS and call logs, bluetooth and wifi pairings, user account info entered in apps and so on.
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Restoring SMS, call logs, bluetooth and wifi pairings are all fine. I have found, as you did, when you restore all data it really buggers things up.
I use SMS Backup&Restore from the Play store. Works great the several years I have been flashing ROM's.
I'm looking at the pre-upgrade backup- it has 1164 files. Which ones should I include or exclude from restoring?
I think I found SMSes in com.htc.messagescs, but I can't search in each archive file.
Yea you shouldn't do an "all data restore" when switching roms, especially when going from GB to ICS. You should ONLY restore data from apps, never restore system/settings data. Since roms are made differently (again, especially when going from GB to ICS) restoring settings/system data will mess up the rom. So just restore data from the apps you want, backup/restore SMS with SMS Backup and Restore, and then just manually change your settings and set-up your home screens the way you want. It takes an extra few minutes, but it will save you the hassle of things not working how they should.
SMS and MMS are stored in [SMS/MMS/APN]Dialer Storage.
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User account info within apps can usually be restored with restoring user data apps only. You will hardly ever restore "system apps". They are usually unique to the individual ROM, in my experience.
sitlet said:
Yea you shouldn't do an "all data restore" when switching roms, especially when going from GB to ICS. You should ONLY restore data from apps, never restore system/settings data. Since roms are made differently (again, especially when going from GB to ICS) restoring settings/system data will mess up the rom. So just restore data from the apps you want, backup/restore SMS with SMS Backup and Restore, and then just manually change your settings and set-up your home screens the way you want. It takes an extra few minutes, but it will save you the hassle of things not working how they should.
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So, why do I need Titanium Backup, if I have to use a separate app to restore SMS? What do I do about the call logs? Are they part of the system or user app dataset?
stopeject said:
So, why do I need Titanium Backup, if I have to use a separate app to restore SMS? What do I do about the call logs? Are they part of the system or user app dataset?
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The only thing I use TB for is to backup/restore apps and their data.
Call logs are located in "[CONTACTS/CALLS] Contacts Storage". Not sure if it is system data or user data set.
Also, here is a good How-to on backing up SMS/MMS and Call logs. Have not had the chance to try it out myself. LINK
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So, why do I need Titanium Backup, if I have to use a separate app to restore SMS? What do I do about the call logs? Are they part of the system or user app dataset?
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You CAN use it to restore sms, however that usually will also restore call history etc, which again, can cause you problems, especially when going from GB to ICS.
Thanks everyone.
I restored GB from nandroid and made 2 backups in different directories. One for user apps+ data, another one for system data. Wiped, installed an ICS ROM. Restored apps+data from the first backup. The results were mixed.Some apps restored with their settings intact, other ones lost all customization and account info.
Next I switched to the system backup and restored only data files (green in TB). Not all of them, only ones with the names that made sense. It gave me SMS and call logs, BT pairings, FB account. The list of WiFI APs was restored, but yheir keys passwords were not. None of the widgets came back. I had pretty time consuming setups with Beautiful Widgets and Circle Launcher and was hoping to continue using it.
It seems that there is no easy way to switch ROMs without some butt hurt.
stopeject said:
Thanks everyone.
I restored GB from nandroid and made 2 backups in different directories. One for user apps+ data, another one for system data. Wiped, installed an ICS ROM. Restored apps+data from the first backup. The results were mixed.Some apps restored with their settings intact, other ones lost all customization and account info.
Next I switched to the system backup and restored only data files (green in TB). Not all of them, only ones with the names that made sense. It gave me SMS and call logs, BT pairings, FB account. The list of WiFI APs was restored, but yheir keys passwords were not. None of the widgets came back. I had pretty time consuming setups with Beautiful Widgets and Circle Launcher and was hoping to continue using it.
It seems that there is no easy way to switch ROMs without some butt hurt.
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Remember you ate switching base, not just the ROM. So things will be a lot different and so much so that it will probably bork things up.
Also my backup pro is a great tool! Try out the free version in the market.
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gunfromsako said:
Also my backup pro is a great tool! Try out the free version in the market.
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Why do you think it is better than TB?
Strange, it looks like some people here change ROMs on a daily basis, and I thought that the whole process of transferring the maximum possible amount of settings has been well researched and documented by now.
stopeject said:
Why do you think it is better than TB?
Strange, it looks like some people here change ROMs on a daily basis, and I thought that the whole process of transferring the maximum possible amount of settings has been well researched and documented by now.
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Not necessarily better I just prefer the ui more. Each has their own pros and cons. Tommytomatoe turned me onto it back in the OG days and I've never looked back. (that guy is a genius) I got MBP on sale for 2.99 and I think it's well worth it. I still use TB, just not as much...
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I'm sure it's been discussed, but search gives too many results to find what I'm looking for, and it seems that the procedure is phone- specific.
I've been a long time CleanROM user, finally decided to upgrade to ICS based ROM.
I did upgrade without wiping data and Sense didn't work at all. After wiping and reinstall everything worked, but of course all m data was gone. I restored "all system data" from backup, and it killed Sense again.
So, what subset of the system data can I safely restore? I need things like SMS and call logs, bluetooth and wifi pairings, user account info entered in apps and so on.
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Sometimes crossing over leads to problems, had that trouble also going from GB to ICS!
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This may be a dumb question, but when/how would you use titanium backup? I've been reading threads, looking for a good first ROM, and I am surprised to see several of them (CM, AOKP, others) say NOT to restore data from a Titanium backup after installing their ROM.
Well... then... whats the point of Titanium Backup? If you cant restore the info, how/when would you use it?
Thanks for clarifying,
UB
I believe it's for when you have to do a sudden wipe or restore on your phone due to a technical issue with it. Changing out the roms I would imagine would have negative impacts on your phone.
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UnexplainedBacon said:
This may be a dumb question, but when/how would you use titanium backup? I've been reading threads, looking for a good first ROM, and I am surprised to see several of them (CM, AOKP, others) say NOT to restore data from a Titanium backup after installing their ROM.
Well... then... whats the point of Titanium Backup? If you cant restore the info, how/when would you use it?
Thanks for clarifying,
UB
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I've been restoring my apps with titanium on all roms i've tried and my phone still works perfectly
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Most devs I have seen on threads will say it is ok for apps from the google store. Like angry birds, stuff like that.
It is the system apps, etc that cause issues.
I use it religiously to restore my purchased apps, etc.
yea i have been using titanium backup since the OG droid i only do market apps like the post above says. and i never let google restor anything when flashing a new rom. i would recommend if your new to TB just to do a batch backup before you go to flash a new rom thats what i do i used to do a schedual but stopped that.
on a side note i do back up my bluetooth pairings, wifi connections, and sms messages (but you have to be careful with sms if your going from one android version to another example : backing up 4.1.2 and restoring it on 4.2.1 may have ill effects)
It's best just to restore data for user apps, not the app and not system apps. By doing this you should never run into problems. Most of the times user apps won't cause problems if you restore the app on the same device with similar rom (touchwiz to touchwiz or AOSP to AOSP). When on the same device but different rom base (touchwiz to AOSP, AOSP to touchwiz) you'll see issues with some apps but not others. When going to a different phone there's a very high chance restoring any app will cause problems (data only is fine though). So the easiest way to avoid problems is to allow Google to restore your apps then go in and restore data. One system setting I haven't had problems with restoring (data only) is wifi, avoid restoring any other system apps or data. Also you should know that text messages backed up from touchwiz restore fine on other touchwiz roms, but may not have correct date and times, and vice versa. Also check out app extractor, it allows you to restore from your nandroid (free only allows 5 apps at a time, whereas titanium is one by one in the free version)
I appreciate the replies. Question on backing up just the data for my apps but not the apps themselves. I don't see an option for this in Titanium Backup. It seems to be giving me the option of user apps or user apps plus system apps. I don't see a user data only option. Am I missing something?
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I appreciate the replies. Question on backing up just the data for my apps but not the apps themselves. I don't see an option for this in Titanium Backup. It seems to be giving me the option of user apps or user apps plus system apps. I don't see a user data only option. Am I missing something?
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I may be wrong, but I think you have to back up the app and data, you just want to restore the data though.
Exactly right! I figured I didnt have much to lose on this phone, between Google and Box, so I went ahead flashed another ROM. Went to restore with Titanium and it gave me the option of apps and data or data only.
Thanks!
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Now what about carbon?
UnexplainedBacon said:
This may be a dumb question, but when/how would you use titanium backup? I've been reading threads, looking for a good first ROM, and I am surprised to see several of them (CM, AOKP, others) say NOT to restore data from a Titanium backup after installing their ROM.
Well... then... whats the point of Titanium Backup? If you cant restore the info, how/when would you use it?
Thanks for clarifying,
UB
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I usually do titanium backup for apps (all the white letter ones), and settings, bookmark, sms, call logs, widgets (selected green letter ones)....but no system apks (red letters). When you make these backups, you must remove all old backups.