Force closes - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm on the newest com rom and otb kernel at stock voltage settings but I'm still getting reboots randomly. I have even wiped and started over. Any ideas?
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do you use titanium backup to restore apps? I know if you try to restore 'system' apps and data it will result in FC city
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anoninja118 said:
do you use titanium backup to restore apps? I know if you try to restore 'system' apps and data it will result in FC city
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How else would I backup and restore?
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Use titanium, but do NOT restore system apps. if you ever use titanium to auto backup it will backup system apps but you never wanna carry these over to a different rom. Restore your games and downloaded apps, just not system apps or anything you don't recognize.
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Dalamar1320 said:
Use titanium, but do NOT restore system apps. if you ever use titanium to auto backup it will backup system apps but you never wanna carry these over to a different rom. Restore your games and downloaded apps, just not system apps or anything you don't recognize.
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Sounds like a lot of work to go through all my apps and pick out the system ones. I restored apps + system data so that I would have my passwords
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exzacklyright said:
Sounds like a lot of work to go through all my apps and pick out the system ones. I restored apps + system data so that I would have my passwords
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I believe it has options to restore 'user' and 'system' apps, only do USER apps and data... these are your games and widgets and market apps
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anoninja118 said:
do you use titanium backup to restore apps? I know if you try to restore 'system' apps and data it will result in FC city
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my problem is that though like i turn on my phone... and everything freezes.. then I know my phone's going to reboot. it's not really a force close.

exzacklyright said:
my problem is that though like i turn on my phone... and everything freezes.. then I know my phone's going to reboot. it's not really a force close.
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if you wanna back everything up it couldn't hurt to do a complete wipe and reflash of the rom, that usually fixes most problems
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anoninja118 said:
if you wanna back everything up it couldn't hurt to do a complete wipe and reflash of the rom, that usually fixes most problems
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I've done a complete wipe and re-flash twice and still getting random reboots. Not really force closes anymore
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exzacklyright said:
I've done a complete wipe and re-flash twice and still getting random reboots. Not really force closes anymore
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Well that's good no more force closes.. as for the random reboots, it seems to happen with ComRom I don't know why, a bug perhaps. I've heard a few people say they have them, including myself
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Well, it doesn't seem very popular, but here is what I do:
Essentially, I make a full (cache and Dalvik wiped) Nandroid backup, but only restore the user data from the backup. I have other backup apps, such as TB, etc, but I don't use them.
This has worked for db/do stock, Com, EF, and MIUIWiz ROMS, back and forth.
TouchWiz ROMs only (all the above) (There is a different formatter for MTD ROMS)
I use Nandroid backup/Advanced Restore (Data only) (in CWM)
I always wipe cache and Dalvik before I backup, so the Restore is clean
After making the backup, or right before a flash, I run the Ext4 formatter to wipe everything
(this can solve a lot of issues)
Flash the ROM
Reboot fully
Back to Recovery
Run Nandroid Advanced Restore (Restore Data)
Good to go.
If problems occur after that, (very rare for me) you could reflash the ROM. Alternately, you could wipe c and D, and flash again.
I have not tried this with MTD ROMs yet.

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[Q] titanium backup restore not working

So I upgraded my ROM from das bamf 1.6.3 to 1.8, and backup all my apps using Titanium backup. Well when I restore my apps, they all force close. If I restore just the app and no data, it works. But when I restore the data they start force closing. Any ideas on how to get this fixed?
hmm...I've never heard of this happening before as long as I've used it. You are only restoring data for User apps right? Restoring system app data can cause FC's but I've never heard of it happening to user apps unless the data is corrupt.
You may want to make a nandroid, then load your backup of 1.6.3 and force redo all your backups then load load your 1.8 backup again and restore.
The only other thing I can think of is that TiBu is not setup the same as in the other installation. When you were on 1.6.3, did you select "Auto-sync TB settings" from the preferences menu so that they carry over? Also, TiBu is installed to the same place as before right (/system/app vs /data/app)?
I did not have auto sync setup. I did a batch backup of user apps before flashing my ROM. I tried individually restoring the user apps vs doing batch as well. I am not sure if titanium backup is installed in the same place. If I uninstall titanium backup, will I lose my backups? I might uninstall and reinstall titanium backup from the market
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did you make a clockwork backup before going to the new rom version? if so then re flash 1.8 and then go into recovery and select advanced restore and then do data only from your 1.6.3. that should restore all your apps exactly as they were in 1.6.3 and totally bypass titanium so you could at least scratch that off the list if it doesnt work...
coder_t2 said:
I did not have auto sync setup. I did a batch backup of user apps before flashing my ROM. I tried individually restoring the user apps vs doing batch as well. I am not sure if titanium backup is installed in the same place. If I uninstall titanium backup, will I lose my backups? I might uninstall and reinstall titanium backup from the market
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No, you won't lose your backups. They are in the TitaniumBackup folder on your sdcard which remains there regardless of whether TiBu is installed or not.
dak_181 said:
did you make a clockwork backup before going to the new rom version? if so then re flash 1.8 and then go into recovery and select advanced restore and then do data only from your 1.6.3. that should restore all your apps exactly as they were in 1.6.3 and totally bypass titanium so you could at least scratch that off the list if it doesnt work...
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Not a great idea since that would restore all system data too.
If it's the same rom, that would be fine but it's likely to cause problems with upgrades (not always but usually).
Hmm can't uninstall TiBu. It came as part of the ROM I believe. I am kind of bummed to lose all my games progress
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coder_t2 said:
Hmm can't uninstall TiBu. It came as part of the ROM I believe. I am kind of bummed to lose all my games progress
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That's what's causing your problem then. I've noticed that data backups made with a /data/app installed TiBu have problems being restored from a /system/app version. That's why I initially asked if it was installed to the same place on both installations.
Manually remove the apk from /system/app using a file explorer or terminal (and pm uninstall it if you wish) then install from Market. Then you should be able to restore you backed up data.
If you want to know how to manually uninstall something (other than just deleting the apk using a file manager) check here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones
Hmm I am unable to delete the file
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Ive had the same problem. It only happens to my amazon downloads. Ive tired reinstalling tibu and restoring the data and app but nothing works. I just stop playing amazon games.
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Yea. Like 90% of my apps don't work. Even ones from the market.
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Hmm I am unable to delete the file
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There is no reason it shouldn't if you know how to do it. That's why I included that link.
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Yea. Like 90% of my apps don't work. Even ones from the market.
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Like I said, if your previous backups were made with a version of TiBu that you installed from the Market then you need to install it from Market again to restore that data.
So, get a file explorer that performs root operations and delete TitaniumBackup.apk from /system/app.
Or in terminal type:
Code:
su
mount -o remount,rw /system
rm -f /system/app/TitaniumBackup.apk
reboot
You may have to verify that is what the apk is named.
Anyway, after that, install TiBu from the Market, open it, and restore whatever apps and user data you want.
Thanks for all the help so far absolute_zero. I am having an issue where when I try the mount line, I get a message telling me the flags to use for mount. I am not that Linux savvy, but I am guessing it thinks I have an inappropriate flag set up or something. Any ideas?
I use titanium backup all the time. I flash roms probably every three or four days if you average it out.
One thing I had problems with once before was using titanium backup that was installed with the ROM. Ive done it both ways, restored my titanium pro using the regular titanium in the ROM, and just downloading and reinstalling the pro version from the market. Once I got my normal pro version installed it went like butter. I sync to Google, let the market install as many apps as possible and manually install a few important ones, then filter to user and "backed up". Once I have that list I batch restore missing apps and all app data.
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Awesome got it uninstalled, and the backups are working now. Had to uninstall it through adb though. Thanks for the help everyone.

Titanium Backup - why not restore data?

I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
restoring the data for the user apps is fine, don't restore the system data...
Wond3r said:
I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
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that would be a bit of misinformation that gets spread around.....
its fine to restore user apps+data. i have been doing it for a long time with every device i have. swapping between devices and all.
do a batch restore MISSING apps+data
unselect anything that might be blur/sense/touchwiz specific (based on the phone you are using)
run the batch and reboot
verify you are not having any FCs on your apps
if you do a batch restore of just user apps+data (and not the MISSING option) you will get tons of issues.
it is not advised to use Titanium Backup for things like text messages, contacts, phone logs, etc. (while possible it will work just fine, i have seen lots more issues trying to restore those from rom to rom rather than just user apps.)
again. use the MISSING APPS option in the batch restore of Titanium Backup
i have been doing it for over a year on many different devices and i even share my titanium backup folder between different phones, with NO issues at all. and i typically flash several times a week on several different devices.
Wond3r said:
I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
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It is advised to do full wipe, if you install a rom.
And if you want to keep your settings, games scores etc, you use Titanium Backup.
Titanium Backup is your friend in those cases..
What is not adviced, is installing a Rom, without wiping your data.. In that way, you keep for example data of apps and games, of a froyo rom, to a gingerbread rom..
Rom to Rom differs(even in same android version), thats why you full wipe, and then TiBu saves you by restoring them, to the new rom's enviroment..
Edit: Agree with others.. I was typing on atrix, and since i wrote this, they already answered!
Also in atrix, NEVER restore FINGERPRINTS backup..
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Pirateghost said:
that would be a bit of misinformation that gets spread around.....
its fine to restore user apps+data. i have been doing it for a long time with every device i have. swapping between devices and all.
do a batch restore MISSING apps+data
unselect anything that might be blur/sense/touchwiz specific (based on the phone you are using)
run the batch and reboot
verify you are not having any FCs on your apps
if you do a batch restore of just user apps+data (and not the MISSING option) you will get tons of issues.
it is not advised to use Titanium Backup for things like text messages, contacts, phone logs, etc. (while possible it will work just fine, i have seen lots more issues trying to restore those from rom to rom rather than just user apps.)
again. use the MISSING APPS option in the batch restore of Titanium Backup
i have been doing it for over a year on many different devices and i even share my titanium backup folder between different phones, with NO issues at all. and i typically flash several times a week on several different devices.
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That explains it. Ive seen MANY posts where users tell other users to restore apps but not restore data but dont specify they mean system data and not app data!
Also, when people talk of a full wipe, do they mean even deleting the contents of the internal storage (like photos and such?)
This would be for going from one ROM to another ROM, both GB
No they are talking about doing a "wipe data/factory reset" in CMW and not physically deleting your internal sdcard. if you delete your sdcard then you will wipe out data that you need including your titanium backups
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No they are talking about doing a "wipe data/factory reset" in CMW and not physically deleting your internal sdcard. if you delete your sdcard then you will wipe out data that you need including your titanium backups
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Thanks ! I always feared that the wipe data/factory reset pretty much deletes all the files on your device like photos and music
The short answer is force closes. Which also can happen from restoring app data, altho it is less likely to happen, it can and it will. But yea def dont restore system data.
Is there any other way of saving game saves?
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Is there any other way of saving game saves?
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You can use SyncIt or GameOn, you can even back it up manualy with Root Explorer. You should be fine with TiBU, just if you do get a force close you will know why and what to do (delete data and/or uninstall/reinstall).
I am having an issue restoring my app data from titanium backup. The issue first occurred when i switched from a stock ROM to CM7 ICS ROM. When i restored my missing apps+data all of my app data had disappeared. I just started over and didn't worry about it. Then when i switched from CM7 back to a stock rom I received my old apps+data from before i switched to CM7. I read around on the forums that this might be a compatibility issue. So i started to use the setting in the batch menu "Manipulate data and converted my backups to roll back journal mode which says this works with all roms, and started uploading to Dropbox. I recently just switched my Rom from a stock ROM to CM9 ICS. I lost all of my apps again!! and got back all of the app data from when i was using CM7. Could someone please shed some light on what is going on here cause i have no idea. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to get my app data into CM9 from my last stock rom. The stock rom i was using was an old ROM called wet dream.
JonnyCazoid said:
I am having an issue restoring my app data from titanium backup. The issue first occurred when i switched from a stock ROM to CM7 ICS ROM. When i restored my missing apps+data all of my app data had disappeared. I just started over and didn't worry about it. Then when i switched from CM7 back to a stock rom I received my old apps+data from before i switched to CM7. I read around on the forums that this might be a compatibility issue. So i started to use the setting in the batch menu "Manipulate data and converted my backups to roll back journal mode which says this works with all roms, and started uploading to Dropbox. I recently just switched my Rom from a stock ROM to CM9 ICS. I lost all of my apps again!! and got back all of the app data from when i was using CM7. Could someone please shed some light on what is going on here cause i have no idea. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to get my app data into CM9 from my last stock rom. The stock rom i was using was an old ROM called wet dream.
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The stock rom uses a different back up location than cm roms. You will have to manually go find the data backups in tibu. Don't bother having it auto detect, wont work. For example, all my backups were at mnt/emmc/titaniumbackup instead of the stock roms location of mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
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The stock rom uses a different back up location than cm roms. You will have to manually go find the data backups in tibu. Don't bother having it auto detect, wont work. For example, all my backups were at mnt/emmc/titaniumbackup instead of the stock roms location of mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
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Looks like that was the the problem. I saved my backup on drop box so i just dropped what was on dropbox in my titanium folder and restored it. I now have all of my app data back.

Backup App?

Is there an app that restores everything (apps, data, system settings) you had on your phone prior to installing a new ROM? So when you wipe your data and flash a new ROM, all you have to do is restore from the app and you're set
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That would be titanium backup. I'd suggest getting the paid version though as it makes restoring much easier as you can do a batch restore vs one by one. If you are moving from say froyo to gingerbread, which have diff file structures, then you'll only be able to pretty much restore the app without data if I'm correct.
syed239 said:
Is there an app that restores everything (apps, data, system settings) you had on your phone prior to installing a new ROM? So when you wipe your data and flash a new ROM, all you have to do is restore from the app and you're set
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You can use Nandroid bundled in the recovery software (at least Clockwork and 4EXT work for me), just backup before installing a new ROM, it restores almost everything: kernel, system, data, cache, etc.
i prefer two apps
TITANIUM BACKUP PRO AND MYBACKPRO.....DEY BOTH ARE AWESUM
I used Titanium after flashing and it worked great! Thanks
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This video may help you figure out Titanium Backup
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syed239 said:
Is there an app that restores everything (apps, data, system settings) you had on your phone prior to installing a new ROM? So when you wipe your data and flash a new ROM, all you have to do is restore from the app and you're set
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Titanium Backup is an excellant App when used correctly. I would suggest the Pro version. Although I would caution against restoring System Data, it can cause issues down the line. App data for Games and such, usually isn't an issue though.
can it be used to backup sms,call log n contacts?

Rule of Thumb

Before you post your question please try this first, as it will solve most of your problems.
Backup your apps (I use titanium backup, the free version works fine)
Reboot into recovery
Perform a factory reset
Wipe cache & dalvik
Reinstall your CM7 or CM9
I found that this has solved most of my issues, some things though, like Netflix, just don't work. Hopefully this can solve whatever problem you are experiencing.
-YALORT
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When you say backup your apps, what program are you using? And once you have backed up your apps, and wiped your cache etc... When you restore all your apps are they restored exactly how you had them previously.
My concern is re flashing cm7 and having to spend hours re installing everything again.
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Use Titanium Backup to backup and restore your apps. It can backup the app itself and the data that you have for them so they're just how you left them after flashing a new ROM.
Are you using, Titanium Backup Pro. Or just the free version?
Free version should meet your needs.
Many times it is a rogue or incompatible app that is causing the problem. Apps can always be redownloaded. I prefer to use nandroid to make backups of just android. 99% of the time, I don't run into issues others do.
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Many times it is a rogue or incompatible app that is causing the problem. Apps can always be redownloaded. I prefer to use nandroid to make backups of just android. 99% of the time, I don't run into issues others do.
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Do you make a Nandroid backup of just your data, then restore the data after you're finished flashing?

[Q] Update ROM without losing Apps

This might be a noob question...
Hyperdrive has a new update and based on what I've read I would have to wipe the phone and flash the update on the phone.
Is there something that I can do to save or reinstall the apps I have after I flash the new update? Instead of going and installing each app individually again?
Thanks,
Angel
Titanium backup with save all of your apps and their settings.
Once you install the new ROM than you just restore all the missing apps and its data.
angelfury126 said:
This might be a noob question...
Hyperdrive has a new update and based on what I've read I would have to wipe the phone and flash the update on the phone.
Is there something that I can do to save or reinstall the apps I have after I flash the new update? Instead of going and installing each app individually again?
Thanks,
Angel
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couple things, if you have playstore apps, you can set that up to reinstall all the apps fresh and use tibu to restore data. Many issues happen when you try to restore everything thru tibu or any other backup programs.
In 4 years of flashing roms, I have never encountered any issues when installing roms or upgrading roms when I install apps fresh and use tibu to restore some of the data. I dont like chasing problems which take a lot more time.
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decaturbob said:
couple things, if you have playstore apps, you can set that up to reinstall all the apps fresh and use tibu to restore data. Many issues happen when you try to restore everything thru tibu or any other backup programs.
In 4 years of flashing roms, I have never encountered any issues when installing roms or upgrading roms when I install apps fresh and use tibu to restore some of the data. I dont like chasing problems which take a lot more time.
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+1 This is by far the best method. Even just trying to batch restore through TiBu sucks because it takes almost as much time as going through all the prompts on the installs. You can tell google which apps you use on a device, and then re-download them through the play store without having to deal with the install prompts. Then after that, you can just restore the data like decaturbob said, and then I'd suggest a reboot so all the apps fully close and re-open. Most important one for backup for me is Tasker as I've spent countless hours setting up all my triggers and profiles.
angelfury126 said:
This might be a noob question...
Hyperdrive has a new update and based on what I've read I would have to wipe the phone and flash the update on the phone.
Is there something that I can do to save or reinstall the apps I have after I flash the new update? Instead of going and installing each app individually again?
Thanks,
Angel
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I use ROM Toolbox Pro. Once you get it root access there are no prompts to go through as mentioned about the TiBu... just select whatever apps you want to install from your backups and then choose restore app or restore app & data. I try not to restore the data because is usually does cause at least one issue.
I did a backup of my rls14 setup using safestrap, wiped the slot, installed a clean rls15 and then restored data only from my rls14 backup and have not had any issues so far.
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I did a backup of my rls14 setup using safestrap, wiped the slot, installed a clean rls15 and then restored data only from my rls14 backup and have not had any issues so far.
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