[Q] Can we improve the sound quality on live concerts? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi,
i came from an iphone4, and the only thing im missing on SGS2 is quality of sound captured on live concerts. Iphone 4 does a pretty good job on this area.
Can we improve the capture of sound, cause records with a lot of distortion. Put him like an iphone4?
tks

Bananaz said:
hi,
i came from an iphone4, and the only thing im missing on SGS2 is quality of sound captured on live concerts. Iphone 4 does a pretty good job on this area.
Can we improve the capture of sound, cause records with a lot of distortion. Put him like an iphone4?
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Get the "TapeMachine" app and experiment with the 2 different microphones and the gain.
Beyond that, it's mostly a hardware limitation.

Bananaz said:
hi,
i came from an iphone4, and the only thing im missing on SGS2 is quality of sound captured on live concerts. Iphone 4 does a pretty good job on this area.
Can we improve the capture of sound, cause records with a lot of distortion. Put him like an iphone4?
tks
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Your not supposed to tape live concerts.

kotaro_14 said:
Your not supposed to tape live concerts.
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I think you can tape them just not distribute it.
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Towle said:
I think you can tape them just not distribute it.
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agreed

knightnz said:
Get the "TapeMachine" app and experiment with the 2 different microphones and the gain.
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It looks like TapeMachine only increases gain and doesn't decrease it

well, tks for the answers.
but im talking about the sound captured with the camera, small clips on video, but if is hardware limitation there's nothing we can do.
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i saw that
Anyone tested this on live shows?

Have you tried the Hx Camera Mod? The sound after replacing the camera.apk is much better! But you need root!

Go to the android development forum for gt-i9100.there u gonna find a.post by potatoman for replacing the stock camera app.aftr replacing u get to record videos i at 192 kbps frm d stock 64 kbps and the audio quality of videos is highly increased.though u need root for it.
PS-Am taking it that u wanna increase the sound quality of videos coz who records conerts in audio only format :-D
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abhiwltya said:
Go to the android development forum for gt-i9100.there u gonna find a.post by potatoman for replacing the stock camera app.aftr replacing u get to record videos i at 192 kbps frm d stock 64 kbps and the audio quality of videos is highly increased.though u need root for it.
PS-Am taking it that u wanna increase the sound quality of videos coz who records conerts in audio only format :-D
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Yes. Is for video hehe.
I will root the phone and test this weekend on a live show
Question if i root the phone i loose any data from phone?

ok let us know the outcome as I am interested too

Bananaz said:
Yes. Is for video hehe.
I will root the phone and test this weekend on a live show
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I'm having the same problem, while filming. The audio is over saturated on loud volumes as the audio input seems way too loud. I wish there was a way to decrease gain.
I wonder if a better audio quality encoding is going to help if the recorded sound is already distorted... it might even make things worse.
Anyway, please let us know.

Virtual Recorder does a quite good job whilst I record my band's rehearsing. We play freaking loud but VR has got a preamp control so it may work well on live gigs as well.
in the market search for VirtualRecorder
Hope this helps.
chalger

Whilst my mod does improve audio recording quality, it doesnt really do it with this situation in mind. The gain is left stock, just the encoder settings changed. This means all you'll get in concerts is a higher quality recording, but still distorted because of the gain.
All I can suggest is to try some of the recording apps on the store (I Like VirtualRecorder and Tape Machine, VR has a control but I havent tested at a concert yet) , you are correct when you thought gain control would fix it. The mic on the SGS2 is very small and sensitive, so it distorts lots when recording extreme volumes. Turning the gain down would therefore help.
Good luck with your search, I hope you like and continue to use my cameramod anyway

Potatoman said:
Whilst my mod does improve audio recording quality, it doesnt really do it with this situation in mind. The gain is left stock, just the encoder settings changed. This means all you'll get in concerts is a higher quality recording, but still distorted because of the gain.
All I can suggest is to try some of the recording apps on the store (I Like VirtualRecorder and Tape Machine, VR has a control but I havent tested at a concert yet) , you are correct when you thought gain control would fix it. The mic on the SGS2 is very small and sensitive, so it distorts lots when recording extreme volumes. Turning the gain down would therefore help.
Good luck with your search, I hope you like and continue to use my cameramod anyway
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Hey Potatoman, im using your mode now, and is awsome. Good Work. Lets see on live show this weekend. I will post some videos on youtube after.
Can you tweak the mod with an option to reduce the gain? Or do it automatic like the iphone? Just a though to an update.
Tks

Regrettably the section I modded didnt have anything for gain, and even if it did it would mean when you try to film normal settings with the video camera it would be too quiet. Plus, it's not really feasible to swap out the APK every time you want a different gain, so I dont think my mod method would be suitable even if it was possible.
Who knows though, maybe the distortion was just low quality files, in which case yay I fixed it without trying ^_^'

I go to Dream Theater concert on Sunday, and make a few recordings to test qith the your mod Potatoman.
I will post here the videos after.
Tks for the reply

Thank you Chalger and Potatoman. TapeMachine only increases gain (from 0.3dB to 20dB). VirtualRecorder has an auto gain mode - a preamp auto gain mode - but actually nothing to decrease gain.
Anyway, like Bananaz, I am trying to find a way to get less distortion when using the camera. I am looking forward to hearing about Bananaz' concert... I do hope Potatoman's great cameramod will make things better.

Why don't you try just watching the concert instead of making low quality shaky recordings of it that nobody but yourself wants to see. I can guarantee you that 95%+ of the people standing behind you at the concert while you're recording want to take your glowing, distracting, irritating square of light and ram it firmly into one of the holes on your body.
Just a suggestion.
Edit: in fact that's a great idea for a camera mod. A button that allows you to turn off the screen but still record video. I've seen a couple of occasions where someone has grabbed a camera being held up in their face by the inconsiderate idiot in front of them, and then thrown it across the venue, accompanied by cheers from the rest of the crowd. A mod might save someone losing their phone...
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kotaro_14 said:
Your not supposed to tape live concerts.
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That's your assumption...how do you know it's not a friend who asked them to record for them?
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Video Settings

On my old HD2 the video wasn't bad but when i was in a club and took some vids the bass distortion was always there,i tried playing around with the settings but still couldn't get rid of the distortion, with the GS2 having more settings can someone recommend what settings i should set if if im looking to shoot some vids in a club playing dance music,basically i don't want heavy bass distortion i want it to be smooth and clear.
thanks
Basically, dont use your phone to record in such situations as the mic simply is not designed for such applications.
I really dont think any amount of tweaking the settings will help.
The mic is simply too small to cope with the levels it will be subjected to.
But ive seen recordings taken by other people who's phone wouldn't be half as good as the GS2 and there is no bass distortion so im thinking there has to be a way, i don't particularly want to, and cant really afford a camcorder,if you've spent this much money on a phone that is capable of 1080 recording surely eradicating bass distortion should be able to be achieved, or can anyone even recommend an app that could be capable of this.
cheers
had the same problems with recording my son's rock bank music. We tried out many things and ended up putting a little cotton with a clear film on top of the mic . After this the bass came softer and didn't swallow the rest of the music. However, my son had the better idea, we recorded the sound with an external recorder and sync the sound later onto the video. that worked perfect except it is a little work but when you have to cut your video you can easily edit the sound during the cut.
hope this helped
RbbCHan said:
had the same problems with recording my son's rock bank music. We tried out many things and ended up putting a little cotton with a clear film on top of the mic . After this the bass came softer and didn't swallow the rest of the music. However, my son had the better idea, we recorded the sound with an external recorder and sync the sound later onto the video. that worked perfect except it is a little work but when you have to cut your video you can easily edit the sound during the cut.
hope this helped
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Yeah covering the mic to attenuate the levels is a pretty good idea.
There are a lot of variables involved as well. Ie. distance from the sound source, where you are in the building, overall freq spectrum coming from the source at the time of recording etc.....
Trial and error.....
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Is there some type of app or program which can reduce bass distortion?
I haven't actually used the video yet at any gigs or clubs but i will be doing so.

[Q] Video Quality

Can someone tell me about HTC amaze video, i very impressed with amaze and probably getting one soon, but i found complain about amaze's speaker volume and their "sound effect".
I not expert myself about video stuff, can someone take a look and tell me what really going on with this 2 video i found online?
Thanks!
techtv.ws/engadget/2011/10/htc-amaze-4g-sample-1080p-hd-video/
youtube.com/watch?v=FTKTWpQmcCY
Those 2 sentences above is a link, have to add www" in front for it to work~
I cant add any link because i'm a new user, so this is the best i can do. Sorry for the trouble and thanks for looking~
I can't check the links since I"m at work but I have to say I'm relatively impressed with the video camera. I feel that it does over sharpen the images a bit, and that it doesn't handle back lights well.
I'll see if I can upload an MP4 straight from the phone somewhere so you can see it.
Thanks for the reply.
I not concern about the camera, i heard good review about their camera. What do you think about their sound quality during video playback?
I still cant post any link from youtube, can you do a search on youtube with "HTC Amaze 4G 1080p HD Video Sample"? The comments under the youtube clip is concerning to me. " the audio is atrocious , sounds like a 99c mic through a friggin tube telephone. " either he did a poor job on taking the video, or maybe amaze does have sensitive mic.
The device does pick up a lot of sound so in a noisy area like the youtube clip, it was pretty rough. My experience is similar, but not as bad as those videos.
Hey Spovik,
Can you try something out for me? I "think" one of the reason why amaze is able to pick up so many sound because of the extra mic, i know there is couple of them near the camera and bottom of the phone.
This is my idea: can you try video recording while covering some of the mic up, see if the sound quality improves or not?
Thanks!
Greenturtle23 said:
Hey Spovik,
Can you try something out for me? I "think" one of the reason why amaze is able to pick up so many sound because of the extra mic, i know there is couple of them near the camera and bottom of the phone.
This is my idea: can you try video recording while covering some of the mic up, see if the sound quality improves or not?
Thanks!
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If you go to settings in the camera, there should be a way to turn off stereo recording. I also feel like that's what's giving the video some crazy loud weird audio. Please if anyone could test this out and let me know how audio is in video mode. I would hate to have to buy a phone with a wonderful camera but bad audio. I will probably buy this phone once I can find out how the audio is and if it's good.
I'll check this tonight. I don't know if I can replicate 100%, but i"ll try and record either some football or a movie (something which will hopefully allow differentiationg of the stereo sound).
Here are recordings. I recorded the same clip from LotR (Dolby 5.1) I stood in the middle of the room and extracted the audio from the MP4.
It's hard to tell and sounds pretty crappy in both formats, but I think it's more of the environment and the volume I had the movie playing, but the mono seems to sound a little better than stereo without the wavering audio.
- Stereo
- Mono
need an equalizer app to process the videos and adjust according to user specs, and preview, (like audacity for amaze)

poor video recorded sound quality

Just wondering what you guys think of it? I go to a lot of concerts and music festivals and the video quality on the note is superb. However, the sound from the video is horrible. The one thing that me and my friends all agree upon is the video sound recording on the iphone is better than any phone out there. The note simply cannot handle loud sounds, particularly really loud bass. The sound on the whole video is just off and it sounds like the microphone is in direct wind. Dont get me wrong, I love the note and I am an android fanboy, however I think this is an area which the iphone dominates. What do you guys think about the sound recording quality? Is there anyway to fix this through software? hardware?
never found a problem with audio from video recordings. few weeks ago i was filming a drift event at a local track and sound came out fine with all the loud noises going on.
Speaking of, do you guys have any YouTube links of vids with your note?
I just can't seem to live with out a removable storage, and I have been leaning in the notes direction.
I am just worried about video, and pic quality with the note...I had a 4g galaxy s and the pics were awful.
Sorry if I am hijacking.
What's your honest.opinions about vid quality?
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got a-Dev ?
www.android-dev.us
the playback of audio recorded with a video is going to bad if you are recording anything with a lot of bass or any high dB sounds that are above the microphones ability to capture. These phones use a microphone thats really just a small speaker, when loud sounds are being emitted and your trying to capture them they can ofter "bottom out" the microphone so that all you hear is loud static distortion or if the bass is really heavy, nothing at all.
freakboy13 said:
Speaking of, do you guys have any YouTube links of vids with your note?
I just can't seem to live with out a removable storage, and I have been leaning in the notes direction.
I am just worried about video, and pic quality with the note...I had a 4g galaxy s and the pics were awful.
Sorry if I am hijacking.
What's your honest.opinions about vid quality?
sent from my hoXl
got a-Dev ?
www.android-dev.us
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I think the video quality is awesome on this phone. I haven't watched them on any external devices though, my opinion is purely off of viewing the videos off the phone.
As far as the drift meet you went to, I'm pretty sure the note can handle the sounds of screeching tires, I am mainly talking about BASS. I understand that almost all devices have a certain limit until the microphone can no longer handle the strong bass. The sound gets distorted, and you can't hear anything else. All I am saying is that somehow the iphone is able to handle strong bass at a concert even when you are standing pretty close to the stage. Anyone else experience the distorted sound on their note?
I have personally experienced this and it must be due to the different build qualities of the microphone. Is it possible to attach an external microphone via the headphone jack and use that to record video sound rather than using the one built into the phone? that would make a huge difference IMO
freakboy13 said:
Speaking of, do you guys have any YouTube links of vids with your note?
I just can't seem to live with out a removable storage, and I have been leaning in the notes direction.
I am just worried about video, and pic quality with the note...I had a 4g galaxy s and the pics were awful.
Sorry if I am hijacking.
What's your honest.opinions about vid quality?
sent from my hoXl
got a-Dev ?
www.android-dev.us
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http://youtu.be/N06GsbGyh28 shot this 2 weeks ago, first time messing with video on the phone, i was impressed by the clarity of both picture and sound, just need a dern zoom feature while filming
also not sure why your expecting amazing quality sound from recording a live performance, no matter what phone if ur close to the speakers your not going to get non distorted sound, ive owned every iphone and never heard clear quality sound after going back and watching vids i took at partys and such, i do belive i saw something on engadget the other day about a better quality mic u can plug into the headphones jack
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/31/irig-mic-cast-hands-on/ well its for idevices but im sure there has to be something similar for android
I was just thinking about this before bed last night. I was looking at some recently shot kareoke videos from my note. The audio quality is absolutely horrendous. Like...disappointing bad.
My atrix was was leaps and bounds better. Was able to handle (and reproduce) bass just fine. Never distorted the audio like the note does. From concerts (rock mind you) to kareoke, anything...I guess its an unfortunate con ill have to live with.
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freakboy13 said:
Speaking of, do you guys have any YouTube links of vids with your note?
I just can't seem to live with out a removable storage, and I have been leaning in the notes direction.
I am just worried about video, and pic quality with the note...I had a 4g galaxy s and the pics were awful.
Sorry if I am hijacking.
What's your honest.opinions about vid quality?
sent from my hoXl
got a-Dev ?
www.android-dev.us
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I know exactly what you mean, in terms of capturing sound at, say...a concert. It is overpowered. I've heard that one way to tackle this problem is to put tape, or a finger, over the mic hole when recording.
Here's a vid I took when I saw The Black Keys a cpl months ago. I even wrote in the description that it's a shame the sound is crappy...
http://youtu.be/oHB95ciSArA
Projectdwnshft said:
http://youtu.be/N06GsbGyh28 shot this 2 weeks ago, first time messing with video on the phone, i was impressed by the clarity of both picture and sound, just need a dern zoom feature while filming
also not sure why your expecting amazing quality sound from recording a live performance, no matter what phone if ur close to the speakers your not going to get non distorted sound, ive owned every iphone and never heard clear quality sound after going back and watching vids i took at partys and such, i do belive i saw something on engadget the other day about a better quality mic u can plug into the headphones jack
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/31/irig-mic-cast-hands-on/ well its for idevices but im sure there has to be something similar for android
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I am not expecting amazing sound quality, just good enough so that it doesnt sound like crap. Obviously microphones on phones have their limits, but as I have stated, and as others in this thread have stated, the note is pretty bad at recording sound. My girlfriend has an iphone and all of my friends have iphones, and trust me, the sound recording is much better on it. Still love my Note though, best phone ever!
I seen rammstein and just like the others said.. Very loud sounds makes the audio sound very muffled and hard to hear.. I wonder if I had the the recording volume set halfway. If it would of sounded better?
Intro rammstein:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=iz5ln0mDOZ0
Rammstein du hast mich song: The fire on the stage even made my video playback weird from the light!
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=iz5ln0mDOZ0
I can tell you this, its way better than HTCs Video playback. Their sound quality is low.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
SKyRocKeting727 said:
I can tell you this, its way better than HTCs Video playback. Their sound quality is low.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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That's sad. Because I can't imagine anything worse than the note... makes me miss my atrix.
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I found a solution by connecting the ear set of the phone and using it`s mic to rec sound. At levels as high as 110db that i tested (in a consert)
Sound quality was audible enough. So thats my pov on this subject. You should try it.

HTC One Video Recording Test With a Jet Fly By

Just picked up this phone a week ago and I was very sceptical at first. Being a long time Samsung user and a fan of TW I'd thought I couldn't get used to the Sense..
But the phone is still in my hands. Not because of battery life, or screen. But because of the amazing sound out of those tiny speakers. Today I went to a local air show and thought I'd see how the mic's would enjoy some extreme loud scenarios.
As you will here, the One does exceptionally well. I've taken many cell phones to concert events and hockey games that just can't record properly when under anything loud.
This is also by far the loudest I have ever recorded a video before. The video does not do it justice. A F-18 flying that close, I can't describe it. You can feel it in your chest.
Anyways, enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7VeKXztMeo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Definitely impressive. I love this phone and it's sound recording
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Amazing!
Sent from the "ONE" for me
g2tegg said:
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This is also by far the loudest I have ever recorded a video before. The video does not do it justice. A F-18 flying that close, I can't describe it. You can feel it in your chest.
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Hi, I've got also a HTC One and I film often concerts, loud car actions (drift, drag), or air shows (real planes and also gas and jet model planes).
Only my biggest hand cam (Pana X900) can reproduce the sound like it, the others get overdriven.
My main problem is, the videos have a low compression (high bitrate, about 15,5 Mbps), which is not surely needed in each case, and eats the memory..
Do you have any idea or experience, how to lower the compression, wihout changing the HD-resolution?
Or which is the currently most useful video converter, my RiverPast Video Cleaner and BoilSoft converter are unable to make an easy batch conversion.
Thanks in advance!
mikklosh said:
Hi, I've got also a HTC One and I film often concerts, loud car actions (drift, drag), or air shows (real planes and also gas and jet model planes).
Only my biggest hand cam (Pana X900) can reproduce the sound like it, the others get overdriven.
My main problem is, the videos have a low compression (high bitrate, about 15,5 Mbps), which is not surely needed in each case, and eats the memory..
Do you have any idea or experience, how to lower the compression, wihout changing the HD-resolution?
Or which is the currently most useful video converter, my RiverPast Video Cleaner and BoilSoft converter are unable to make an easy batch conversion.
Thanks in advance!
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Honestly, no. I am mainly a photographer, and had my DSLR at the show. I by chance tried a video on the HTC One when the jet made the closest pass. Unfortunately I didn't have the nice cam out to get some close ups.
If your asking how to lower the compression on the video recording for the HTC One itself, you would need a custom ROM and a developer out there. I've seen such things done on my old Note 2 but none for this phone.
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Saw HTC in person at bestbuy. I have to say it is a beautiful phone.

Audio quality on the Xperia X

Hi guys and girls.
I am looking to purchase a X to replace my current faulty phone.
I often use my phone as a lecture recorder, and I was wondering what the recording quality is like? It is good enough that I can still make out a lecturer with the thickest of accents.
Thanks,
MrAndroid12 said:
Hi guys and girls.
I am looking to purchase a X to replace my current faulty phone.
I often use my phone as a lecture recorder, and I was wondering what the recording quality is like? It is good enough that I can still make out a lecturer with the thickest of accents.
Thanks,
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I hope this will be helpful. What phone were you using? for recording? Look, in my opinion, the sound quality of the X's mic IS AMAZING. I don't know if it's because I had a bad phone previously, but I will give you some examples.
+Can record from big distance
+Can record when very noisy and won't be distorted
+Can record voice/voices talking even from a fair distance VERY clear (sounds like real life)
+I tried recording my mechanical keyboard, the sound I got beats most videos I have found on the internet (was more realistic and clear)
FoxTheLegend said:
I hope this will be helpful. What phone were you using? for recording? Look, in my opinion, the sound quality of the X's mic IS AMAZING. I don't know if it's because I had a bad phone previously, but I will give you some examples.
+Can record from big distance
+Can record when very noisy and won't be distorted
+Can record voice/voices talking even from a fair distance VERY clear (sounds like real life)
+I tried recording my mechanical keyboard, the sound I got beats most videos I have found on the internet (was more realistic and clear)
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Hi there,
I was previously using a Samsung Galaxy S5.
But yeah, took your advise, and bought the phone. On superior quality, it's absolutely superb even when files sizes are 500mb+ for 40-50 minutes.
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MrAndroid12 said:
Hi there,
I was previously using a Samsung Galaxy S5.
But yeah, took your advise, and bought the phone. On superior quality, it's absolutely superb even when files sizes are 500mb+ for 40-50 minutes.
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I'm glad I helped
Is it possible to control the audio levels when recording a very loud audio source?
santiam said:
Is it possible to control the audio levels when recording a very loud audio source?
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I dont think so
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I dont think so
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But it has some kind of automatic control

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