I've got two questions,
Since I used a CWM kernal and made a backup of my 2.3.3 rom before I put back on the original kernal can I STILL put CWM back on and then flash and restore from that backup? It's still on the SD card.
Secondly, how do you get rid of the custom binary download counter, the one that shows up when you put the S2 into download mode. I'm just worried that Samsung would refuse service or a store would refuse to take it back plus when I need to return the phone I'd like to have it in as factory condition as possible; is there a way to reset that counter?
aniteshj said:
I've got two questions,
Since I used a CWM kernal and made a backup of my 2.3.3 rom before I put back on the original kernal can I STILL put CWM back on and then flash and restore from that backup? It's still on the SD card.
Secondly, how do you get rid of the custom binary download counter, the one that shows up when you put the S2 into download mode. I'm just worried that Samsung would refuse service or a store would refuse to take it back plus when I need to return the phone I'd like to have it in as factory condition as possible; is there a way to reset that counter?
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1. Yeah as long as you have the backup on your sdcard you can always restore it with CMW
2. You can reset the counter with a usb jig. You can find one from Ebay for example. Just search for a "Samsung Galaxy S II usb jig". This will reset the counter but there is a secondary counter that's counting the times you've used the jig, and there is currently no way to reset that counter that I know of.
I have put on a lot of custom roms and used the usb jib method and too be honest I would be very surprised if a repair happened samsung would't warrant it.
Until that happens and hopefully it won't then no one will really be able to know.
tenretni elibom said:
but there is a secondary counter that's counting the times you've used the jig, and there is currently no way to reset that counter that I know of.
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Is this true? I heard about this rumour several weeks ago here at XDA but no-one could really find or confirm this counter at that time. Could you please tell me where this has been confirmed?
Otherwise there is an obvious risk that this very weak rumour starts to become true due to misunderstanding.
daleski75 said:
I have put on a lot of custom roms and used the usb jib method and too be honest I would be very surprised if a repair happened samsung would't warrant it.
Until that happens and hopefully it won't then no one will really be able to know.
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Well I'll have to slip my supervisor a question about this, I'm only in sales but someone has to know about this.
aniteshj said:
Well I'll have to slip my supervisor a question about this, I'm only in sales but someone has to know about this.
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Why put a custom rom counter on a phone if not to inform service that a custom rom has been installed and therefore warranty is void . Absolutely no other point for the counter .
jje
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I have some questions about my Galaxy S II I bought a few weeks back, regarding returning the device to a pre-modified state?
After a few hours of browsing, (and, unfortunately, not being able to answer this question on my own), I've found that, should I root my device (and then do anything after, like installing a custom ROM), that my warranty is voided, and this being a $900 phone, that's something that troubles me (especially when I'm also paying another $15p/month to my carrier for additional cover ).
So, my main question is, is there a way that I can restore my phone to it's current state (carrier-installed apps, stock Samsung apps, no modifications whatsoever), so that it would be able to be returned under warranty (assuming that I go ahead and root it)? I've read that there is a counter for every ROM that is flashed (or modification made?), so I'd need to be able to return that back to it's original state as well, I assume.
I live in Australia, and my carrier is Optus.
The only thread that I've found that is of any use to me really, is this one:
[HOWTO] reset custom binary counter in download mode
Though I am slightly confused by the process
I've seen so many amazing mods, like the camera mod from here: [MOD] Hacked Camera.APK for better audio quality, usage with any battery life & MORE!
The audio mod: [GUIDE]DSP Manager + CM Music Player on SGSII = Awesome!
etc. and not to mention the overclocking potential of the GSII, I'm finding it hard to resist rooting this phone.
If someone could help me, I'd be eternally grateful. I've searched through the forums thoroughly, and returned nothing of substantial use, but I apologise if I've posted a previously-answered question
Stock Rom thread in Dev section or Branded rom thread dev section reflash original firmware removes root .
The only thread that I've found that is of any use to me really, is this one:
[HOWTO] reset custom binary counter in download mode
Though I am slightly confused by the process
process is turn phone off>> Plug USB jig in to USB port >> phone boots done .
jje
Oh wow, I feel like such an idiot for missing that...
For clarification, you were referring to this thread, yes?
[ROMS]Official i9100 carrier branded firmware download for Odin Flash
And after reading the requirements to reset the binary counter (which, as far as I can tell, is essential if I want to return the device), I don't think I'll be going ahead with rooting the device. Making the jig is out of the question for me, and I have no idea how to properly use it.
Either way, thanks for your help
You can buy the jig on ebay for something like £4, no need to make one yourself. As for using it, it's as JJ said: phone off, jig in... done. I'd be surprised if you couldn't find video instructions on you tube if you wanted to see it in action
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Thanks, Isadora.
So, am I correct in saying:
If I was to root the device, but then need to return it under warranty, all I'd need to do is flash it back to the stock ROM, and then use the jig to reset the binary counter, and it'd be able to be returned under warranty (in theory, at least)?
Sorry for the repetitive questions
screamworks said:
Thanks, Isadora.
So, am I correct in saying:
If I was to root the device, but then need to return it under warranty, all I'd need to do is flash it back to the stock ROM, and then use the jig to reset the binary counter, and it'd be able to be returned under warranty (in theory, at least)?
Sorry for the repetitive questions
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Yes mate - exactly that
I've red on another section of the forum that Samsung put a second hidden counter that cannot be reset... this could void the warranty anyway.
Can anyone confirm ?
NO.
Its a rumour until a second counter if it exists is found .
jje
Ok thanks. Hope it's just a rumour ...
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flute said:
I've red on another section of the forum that Samsung put a second hidden counter that cannot be reset... this could void the warranty anyway.
Can anyone confirm ?
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This is some BS, I've been searching for a second counter and cannot find anything to even suggest that one exists.
edit: Just to clarify I mean the rumour is BS.
I got an S2 via an upgrade with Vodafone UK and after deciding that the 3g performance was unacceptable i returned the phone. Having flashed Checkrom i bought a USB jig to reset the Custom Binary Counter (or whatever its called) and it worked a treat.
I got a new S2 the other day unbranded from Dialaphone.com but for some reason on this phone the Jig does not work. When i insert the jig the phone automatically boots into download mode like normal but the custom counter has not reset nor has the yellow triangle been removed. Since jigs are so cheap i bought a second one in case the first was faulty but this too does not work.
I've done some reading and i guess it has something to with the bootloader? Being the noob that i am i just wanted to get some clear advice on what it is i actually have to do to sort the problem.
Thanks
Hi! Chances are that your new phone has the new bootloader, which Samsung has disallowed the clearing of the custom flash counter.
Flash the old bootloader referenced in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16781156&postcount=2
using Odin and you should be good to go.
Enjoy your SGSII!
i wish if people use the search more often
qwerty warrior said:
i wish if people use the search more often
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I wish people would read OP's more often. I clearly stated that i had done some reading but wanted clarification on whether i need to flash a new bootloader or something.
Goooober said:
I wish people would read OP's more often. I clearly stated that i had done some reading but wanted clarification on whether i need to flash a new bootloader or something.
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Np mate. Just flash the old bootloader given in Intratech thread via odin and you should be good
Hello,
I'm going to send my Galaxy S2 in for repairs but I need to un-root it first.
I'm searching for the official Vodafone Australia kernel DUKJ1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928
The kernel is there but because multiupload is down I cannot download it. I have tried Check Fus downloader but it does not have DUKJ1. Is there any other way I can get the kernel?
Also do I even need to un-root it as I have used the usb jig to reset the binary counter?
Um, actually, Checkfus does have KJ1 for Voda AU. This is the most recent firmware available for Voda AU via Kies (I just checked this with my own copy of Checkfus).
Download the entire rom and extract the kernel zImage.
If you leave a rooted kernel on it & whomever repairs the phone notices this, there's a fair chance your warranty will be deemed to have been voided. Frankly, you might as well flash the entire KJ1 rom package from Checkfus (for all whomever repairs it knows, you probably updated OTA via Kies), then do a factory reset then double check to make sure there's no trace of any apps that required root left on the phone.
Then jig it again just to be doubly sure.
Then done. Send it in for warranty service.
MistahBungle said:
Um, actually, Checkfus does have KJ1 for Voda AU. This is the most recent firmware available for Voda AU via Kies (I just checked this with my own copy of Checkfus).
Download the entire rom and extract the kernel zImage.
If you leave a rooted kernel on it & whomever repairs the phone notices this, there's a fair chance your warranty will be deemed to have been voided. Frankly, you might as well flash the entire KJ1 rom package from Checkfus (for all whomever repairs it knows, you probably updated OTA via Kies), then do a factory reset then double check to make sure there's no trace of any apps that required root left on the phone.
Then jig it again just to be doubly sure.
Then done. Send it in for warranty service.
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What version of Checkfus do you have as I can't find it. I select Android then GT-1900T but KJ1 is nowhere to be seen?
Thanks.
2.1. Android/I9100T/Australia (Vodafone). Tells you original firmware was KF2, then hit check firmware. Tells you KJ1 is latest released on 8/11/2011.
Are you sure you're using the PC version & not the phone app ?
Eye_Blake said:
What version of Checkfus do you have as I can't find it. I select Android then GT-1900T but KJ1 is nowhere to be seen?
Thanks.
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I got it working, thanks alot.
To re jig it I flashed the old bootloader, should I re flash the new bootloader or leave the old one?
No worries
Unless you have a specific reason for flashing the new bootloader (I.E. something not working without it), leave it. The less you mess around with bootloaders the better.
Eye_Blake said:
I got it working, thanks alot.
To re jig it I flashed the old bootloader, should I re flash the new bootloader or leave the old one?
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The reasons I planned on sending the phone in for repair/replacement were that is would turn on and off by itself sometimes, would open voice talk by itself almost constantly and would make the charging 'beep' noise when not plugged in.
Since unrooting none of these problems have happened again, should I still send it in for repair/replacement? Why would unrooting fix these problems?
Hard to say. Was the phone just rooted, or were you running a custom rom ? If the latter it may have been something in the rom causing the issues.
Up to you. Maybe run it for a week or two (or whatever) & see how it goes. You've unrooted it, you can jig it if you haven't already & send it in for warranty service whenever you like.
Obviously jigging it & going back to stock is never a guarantee of warranty service (given you've voided the warranty by rooting it in the first place), but most people who have done this have been fine so far as warranty service is concerned. I have seen a few exceptions over the past few months on here, but it's hard to say whether those people followed all the steps before sending it in or not.
That would be a good idea!
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Hard to say. Was the phone just rooted, or were you running a custom rom ? If the latter it may have been something in the rom causing the issues.
Up to you. Maybe run it for a week or two (or whatever) & see how it goes. You've unrooted it, you can jig it if you haven't already & send it in for warranty service whenever you like.
Obviously jigging it & going back to stock is never a guarantee of warranty service (given you've voided the warranty by rooting it in the first place), but most people who have done this have been fine so far as warranty service is concerned. I have seen a few exceptions over the past few months on here, but it's hard to say whether those people followed all the steps before sending it in or not.
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It was just rooted. Yeah that's a good idea, I'll see if it plays up in the next week, thanks!
Do you think they will replace it or just repair it?
No idea. That's entirely up to them. But unlikely to replace outside the first few weeks unless the phone was unfixable if previous experiences on here are anything to go by.
Eye_Blake said:
It was just rooted. Yeah that's a good idea, I'll see if it plays up in the next week, thanks!
Do you think they will replace it or just repair it?
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MistahBungle said:
Hard to say. Was the phone just rooted, or were you running a custom rom ? If the latter it may have been something in the rom causing the issues.
Up to you. Maybe run it for a week or two (or whatever) & see how it goes. You've unrooted it, you can jig it if you haven't already & send it in for warranty service whenever you like.
Obviously jigging it & going back to stock is never a guarantee of warranty service (given you've voided the warranty by rooting it in the first place), but most people who have done this have been fine so far as warranty service is concerned. I have seen a few exceptions over the past few months on here, but it's hard to say whether those people followed all the steps before sending it in or not.
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Any proper guide to be done before send to repair?.. i've just sent my phone to service today. Battery temperature warning problem. Re-flash stock rom with stock kernel. Everything goes back like factory settings
Just the usual steps I.E. flash stock firmware, do a wipe/factory reset, use jig to reset the flash counter, double check that the reset worked & there are no traces of old apps on the phone which required root that could tip off whomever fixes the phone that you'd rooted it. Some say you should first (while the phone is still rooted) go into CWRecovery and format cache, data, system, & sd card. Then flash stock firmware and then use the jig. Depends on how paranoid you are I guess.
As I said to the previous poster, there are no guarantees of warranty service after you root or flash non-stock firmware on your phone (you shouldn't expect same), however if you follow these steps you should get warranty service. But there are always exceptions.
whose_ni said:
Any proper guide to be done before send to repair?.. i've just sent my phone to service today. Battery temperature warning problem. Re-flash stock rom with stock kernel. Everything goes back like factory settings
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MistahBungle said:
Just the usual steps I.E. flash stock firmware, do a wipe/factory reset, use jig to reset the flash counter, double check that the reset worked & there are no traces of old apps on the phone which required root that could tip off whomever fixes the phone that you'd rooted it. Some say you should first (while the phone is still rooted) go into CWRecovery and format cache, data, system, & sd card. Then flash stock firmware and then use the jig. Depends on how paranoid you are I guess.
As I said to the previous poster, there are no guarantees of warranty service after you root or flash non-stock firmware on your phone (you shouldn't expect same), however if you follow these steps you should get warranty service. But there are always exceptions.
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Lucky for me. My phone just back from service and they replace broken parts. ..i didn't jig to reset the counter..
Yep. You were lucky.
whose_ni said:
Lucky for me. My phone just back from service and they replace broken parts. ..i didn't jig to reset the counter..
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I've been waiting for a system.img.ext4 oden flashable root solution which will not trip the flash counter, and that's not happening. IS this something someone might get done, or is it the position of developers "If you flash deal with the counter, run the counter reset" etc, etc, etc??
I know there is a solution that doesn't trip the counter, and I used that on Gingerbread, but I know better than to try and use that on the ICS Official release through Kies. I don't want a $600 paperweight. Not that I have an issue with tripping the flash counter, I just like the idea for not having to deal with it. I was informed that even if the counter was "reset" by the solution here, it's still detectable that it's been reset, flashed, etc, even though there is no counter present. I can't confirm or deny that, and don't really want to be the one that finds out first hand.
Any insight on this is appreciated. I'm just looking for a way to get better performance out of the GPS that is horrible on the ICS build presently released. I'm sick of having to restart the phone before I start my day on the job driving all over creation.
Thank you.
There is a flash counter reset, just can't find it to post links but it is available bud.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569206
Flash counter reset
I'm well aware of that. I've been told from people within AT&T that even with the visible counter reset, they can still determine that there's been flashing that's been done and void warantee from Samsung. This is from both Samsung and AT&T so I'm not willing to be a test-dummy because I've had problems with devices in the past. Hence why I'm looking for the odin flash of the system.img.ext4 for ICS so that there is no trip of the flash counter, and no question about if it's been done. IF someone had a write-up of HOW to do it via ADB, I would use that means since I have no issue with that either. Just looking for the best way to do it without tripping the counter. Nothing more. I already have the flash counter rest for CWM and could use it, but really not wanting to do that route.
In all honesty, I wouldn't worry too much about that. I've returned 3 phones now without issue. They don't check that hard. I've never heard of one person having a problem with At&t or Samsung. As far as using Odin and not tripping the flash counter.....idk, but good luck.
I see...
as for not tripping the flash counter, it only trips if you flash a kernel or recovery. You can flash certain things in Oden and it doesn't trip the counter. SO that's how the former GB Stock could be flashed with a rooted system.img.ext4 and it wouldn't trip it. But you would have root and it would be fine, so you could use ADB to install CWM and never touch the counter.
I just am seeing if there's anything anyone might have in the works to do this, so that there's a way around it. If not, I can always do the other means but just trying to refrain from that for now. Since I'll be doing things to both my Note and Skyrocket.
deadman_raziel said:
I'm well aware of that. I've been told from people within AT&T that even with the visible counter reset, they can still determine that there's been flashing that's been done and void warantee from Samsung. This is from both Samsung and AT&T so I'm not willing to be a test-dummy because I've had problems with devices in the past. Hence why I'm looking for the odin flash of the system.img.ext4 for ICS so that there is no trip of the flash counter, and no question about if it's been done. IF someone had a write-up of HOW to do it via ADB, I would use that means since I have no issue with that either. Just looking for the best way to do it without tripping the counter. Nothing more. I already have the flash counter rest for CWM and could use it, but really not wanting to do that route.
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Well if you're going to go tell AT&T that you're rooting your phone of course they are going to tell you that... those reps aren't the brightest believe me.
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Kant Phase Diz said:
Well if you're going to go tell AT&T that you're rooting your phone of course they are going to tell you that... those reps aren't the brightest believe me. ....
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Yips .. can comfirm < not sure i can insult ALL the ATT workers > but I returned few phones ,,,,,,,,,,,,, 3 samsung notes(bricked) ... AND ....even dare I use this word here <1x 4s> that was BAD BAD case of unlocking go wrong = became a BRICK !!! all 3 of them didnt know what "roooted phone" ment !!!!
SO I just waled in and told them >> MAKE A DECENT PHONE GUYS ,<lol>,,,,,,,if not am leaviong att and going elsewhere
so up comes a new new phone FREE !!!
My wife even told simaliar story ,, when she wanted to get a SIII > so she walked away with new Phone free ,, with a refund of her BB
the NEW ECONOMY = means ATT = not doing well in Phone sales and ,,,, so they easy / quick to replace !
I returned my first note cause i bricked it and i had used the flash resetter.. Att had no clue.. I remember i had tmobile.. Only 1 person knew about flashin n rootn
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Hello,
I've never had a samsung, this should (I have yet to decide) be my first one and I've basically understood that samsung hates you and would put a camera facing the screen just to know you're not rooting it.
So I want my warranty and I wouldn't really like to spend money on app like the one for the flash counter because I think I will have this phone just for a short time
I've understood that someone called mrrobinson has managed to find a way to root without letting the flash counter know. But in his thread I've found files for all the possible existing usa carriers, but I have a normal i9300 for europe.
And so is there ANY way to root flash cwm without flash counter appearing?
And if I flash a rom with cwm no problem as usual, right?
virtualflyer said:
Hello,
And so is there ANY way to root flash cwm without flash counter appearing?
And if I flash a rom with cwm no problem as usual, right?
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No
But Triangle Away will remove custom rom count .
Flashing a stock rom and a factory reset will revert modified status to original .
So I want my warranty and I wouldn't really like to spend money on app like the one for the flash counter because I think I will have this phone just for a short time
In that case run on stock if you don't want to buy cheap apps .
jje
That's not really the point. The fact is that it seems more legit to me to not meet flash counter instead of just canceling it.
But so there's nothing like that mrrobinson method for normal s3?
Thank you btw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728441 This for example, would it work? Would I be able to flash cwm then without that counter?