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It seems like the update fix the battery issue for alot of people except for me. So I just want to ask if anyone with the new update and great battery life uses a twitter app and is on it a good amount of the time like me. Because I think that might be whats draining it because after the update I re-downloaded my apps but didn't set them up and I didnt have no drain in the morning,then I set up weather bug (which besides touiteur is the only app running in my background) and got some drain and decided to stop it from running in the background and removed the widget and the drain stopped. So I just want to know if someone has twitter running background updates and still gets good battery life because not being notified about my tweets will be kinda annoying.
*can you remove this thread, I wasn't paying attention and put it in the wrong section by accident*
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..which besides touiteur is the only app running in my background
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So u using Touiteur for Twitter ? From my own experience i can confirm that it drains Battery a LOT. Even when i switch off the Background updates it still drains. I use Seesmic and the Problem seems to be gone.
Higgins12 said:
So u using Touiteur for Twitter ? From my own experience i can confirm that it drains Battery a LOT. Even when i switch off the Background updates it still drains. I use Seesmic and the Problem seems to be gone.
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I use Touiteur on my X10 and it doesn't really seem to have that large of an effect on the battery life.
I am completely new at this, I read that some say the battery drains too quickly over night while in sleep mode (running the vegan 5.1 rom), even when wifi, sync, etc. were shut off. Has anyone else experienced this? How is this compared with iPad? Thanks!
I'm too a bit concern about this issue. Does this problem occur on Vegan ROM only or other ROMs?
What about standard ROM?
Why not just plug it in overnight? Seems easy enough...
Well, it's all about convenience. I just don't want to remember to keep thingy plugged in overnight, every night...
With average usage about couple hours per day - single charge should lasts for 5 days.
Vlad_z said:
Well, it's all about convenience. I just don't want to remember to keep thingy plugged in overnight, every night...
With average usage about couple hours per day - single charge should lasts for 5 days.
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Understood...
I had to retrain myself when I got my HTC Incredible. I keep a charger at work, home and in both vehicles so I always have power available when I need it. Once I rooted, installed Hydra Kernel and got rid of the bloatware my battery uptime was significantly improved.
I suppose the bloatware on the stock ROM would cause some battery drain that would be helped by a custom ROM or at least removing the bloatware that you do not need.
Yup, that's the question. Which ROM has least amount of bloatware...
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Once I rooted, installed Hydra Kernel and got rid of the bloatware my battery uptime was significantly improved.
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Whats the hydra kernel?
Depends on what you consider bloatware
VEGAn is pretty clean if you ask me, but I did stream line it a bit for battery life.
System app remover is awesome. No more using terminal to pull apks manually.
I Yank out the tts (text to speech) stuff
I pull streetview and gmaps (I can get directions from gmaps online if I need them)
I pull email and Gmail (the galaxy tab email port runs my Hotmail and Gmail from one app and I can tell it to never check unless I press the check button)
I pull the news and weather app (I can control update regularity with beautiful Widgets to sync once an hour as apposed to once a min with stock)
I gut out the stock browser and launcher after replacing them with dolphin HD and launcher pro.
There are more but since I already pulled them I can't exactly check
I get amazing battery life this way. If I shut it down when I'm done with it I can make it last all week on one charge at about 3-4 hours of moderate use a day.
I can use it all day heavily and put it to sleep at night and still wake up with 30+% battery.
Looks like gTab never goes truly asleep, just turned screen off. Some apps continue to work.
Thank you, I will give the systemapp remover a try.
This is where the Ipad and the Gpad are totally different. I can charge the ipad to 100% and wifi wll be turned on and I can turn it on a week later and the battery will be at 99%. The gpad with wifi turned off will be down to nothing in just a couple of days. Like someone said the thing is never off. I hate having to keep it plugged in all the time.
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This is where the Ipad and the Gpad are totally different. I can charge the ipad to 100% and wifi wll be turned on and I can turn it on a week later and the battery will be at 99%. The gpad with wifi turned off will be down to nothing in just a couple of days. Like someone said the thing is never off. I hate having to keep it plugged in all the time.
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Under settings / about look at battery usage and you should be able to see what is using your battery.
I used system app remover to take out all my reduntant apps (launcher, browser, music player, ect) and set my wifi to turn off when the screen turns off and now my gtab just sips the battery.
I went to bed with it at 41% last night and checked it this morning as I was about to leave for work (8 hours later) and the battery was at 35%! Before I was losing almost 20% a night so this is a HUGE difference!
I'm going to try to optimize a little more when I get home. The only app running that I dont really need is the Amazon Market so I may get rid of that and see if that helps any. My goal is to get it to .5% battery drain per hour.
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I used system app remover to take out all my reduntant apps (launcher, browser, music player, ect) and set my wifi to turn off when the screen turns off and now my gtab just sips the battery.
I went to bed with it at 41% last night and checked it this morning as I was about to leave for work (8 hours later) and the battery was at 35%! Before I was losing almost 20% a night so this is a HUGE difference!
I'm going to try to optimize a little more when I get home. The only app running that I dont really need is the Amazon Market so I may get rid of that and see if that helps any. My goal is to get it to .5% battery drain per hour.
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The wifi settings took a while for me to find so if anyone wants to know hit menu while in wifi connections & settings and hit advanced.
.5% is a good goal. Still tinkering myself and have it arround .7% but I know .5% is not out of reach.
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The wifi settings took a while for me to find so if anyone wants to know hit menu while in wifi connections & settings and hit advanced.
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I use a widget called "Power Widget", which provides a one button on/off for many settings including wifi. This is the free version: https://market.android.com/details?id=at.abraxas.powerwidget.free&feature=search_result
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The wifi settings took a while for me to find so if anyone wants to know hit menu while in wifi connections & settings and hit advanced.
.5% is a good goal. Still tinkering myself and have it arround .7% but I know .5% is not out of reach.
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Setting the wifi to turn off with the screen is a HUGE power saver. When my gtab was draining a lot of battery I looked up the battery usage statistics and the wifi was using almost as much as the system idle!
I think right now I'm hovering at about .8% battery drain. I might turn off my RSS widget since I mainly use Pulse as my news source now. .5% here I come!
Well, I set WiFi policy to Off when screen is off and use Task Killer to shutdown every running process before putting tablet asleep and still battery loosing charge from 91% down to 77% in about 10 hours.
So, my numbers are about 1.4% per hour when gtab in "sleep" mode.
I check WiFi router and can see that gTab does switch WiFi off...
Question about that system app remover. How it removes redundant apps (say like stock email, music player, google search) from read-only system partition?
I thought that the only way to remove them is to rebuild and then re-flash ROM without those apps.
That's why apps like "Advanced Task Killer" etc. only kill processes from memory, but then Android re-launch them again.
I understand, that for phone not to fall deep into sleep is a feature, but for a tablet it's just a waste...
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Question about that system app remover. How it removes redundant apps (say like stock email, music player, google search) from read-only system partition?
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I installed "SystemApp Remover". It lists the apps in 2 categories "Regular Apps" and "System Apps". Regular apps are the ones you can remove normally without this app; the ones under "System Apps" are the build-in ones that you can not remove using the usual method. Once you select "System Apps", choose "Assist" in settings, and the app will highlight the system apps in 3 colors - green, yellow, red. Green=ok to remove; yellow=maybe ok to remove; red=removal not recommended.
I suggest you know what you're removing even for the green ones. The name of the app usually tells or just Google it. You can also back it up in settings before the removal.
I have removed some, not enough to test for results yet, but I've seen a few positive feedback from others. Just be careful while doing it, that's all.
Interesting, what is the most "power hungry" or better say - "refusing go to sleep" application?
I understand, this tests might be tedious to do. I think that the best candidates are those who are restarted on its own after Task Killer killed them..
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Interesting, what is the most "power hungry" or better say - "refusing go to sleep" application?
I understand, this tests might be tedious to do. I think that the best candidates are those who are restarted on its own after Task Killer killed them..
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Try "SystemPanel", it has a function that monitors which app uses the battery the most. According to its description, the monitor function uses about 1 minute of battery if it runs for a full day. And, the monitor function can be turned off and nothing else would run in the background from SystemPanel. There is a Free version as well.
Hi guys, a little information required.
I've had my GSII for about two weeks now and I love it. The one problem, however, is battery life.
I only get 10 hours on standby....!
My phone is not rooted and I have not made any modifications to bootloaders or such. My flatmate has the same phone and he can easily be getting 30+ hours with moderate use.
I have read some of the threads about battery life but was unsure if the problems (and solutions) were applicable to my situation.
I have tried a different battery so I know it's not the battery.
All help and information will be appreciated!
1- Start using Advanced Task Killer aka ATK. Try the Free version from market first, if you like it then buy the paid one. It has worked splendidly well for me.
If you want to do it the hard way then the followings,
2- Root your phone, install Titanium Backup/Pro and Freeze/Uninstall the programs which are useless and you don't use. Apps like AP Mobile, SNS Accounts, Software Update always searches for update.
3- Make sure to Turn Off Wi-Fi, 3G, Packet Data, Auto Sync, Background Data when not needed.
4- Try to keep Manual refreshing in the application rather than Automatic refreshment.
5- Keep as low as possible widgets. More widgets equal to more battery drainage.
6- Install an app called Battery Calibration by Nema from and Calibrate the battery. It's a MUST step imo.
Regards.
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Hi guys, a little information required.
I've had my GSII for about two weeks now and I love it. The one problem, however, is battery life.
I only get 10 hours on standby....!
My phone is not rooted and I have not made any modifications to bootloaders or such. My flatmate has the same phone and he can easily be getting 30+ hours with moderate use.
I have read some of the threads about battery life but was unsure if the problems (and solutions) were applicable to my situation.
I have tried a different battery so I know it's not the battery.
All help and information will be appreciated!
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Make your background is always black based, as amolded display doent emit black color... so your background, message , mail the most you use make it in dark background. This will help you save your battery.
download and try different battery saver packages are available in the android market. download and try them for free and you can then stick to the one best suits for you.
Thanks for the replies.
How is it that in Engadget's review they lay claim to 20 hours of battery whilst using wifi etc and my phone can only manage 10 on standby with no wifi activated and refreshes are set to half-hourly...
Something seems to be fundamentally wrong with my phone.
MA14NEY said:
Thanks for the replies.
How is it that in Engadget's review they lay claim to 20 hours of battery whilst using wifi etc and my phone can only manage 10 on standby with no wifi activated and refreshes are set to half-hourly...
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It's not about the Standby Time, never was. Just check how long your display is on for, if it's above 4 or 4½ hours then you are in good postition.
MA14NEY said:
Something seems to be fundamentally wrong with my phone.
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Nah
ithehappy said:
check how long your display is on for, if it's above 4 or 4½ hours then you are in good postition.
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My phone was in my pocket doing nothing. I was working and used the display to check the time only, about 4 or 5 times.
10 hours is a pitiful amount of time for a phone to last on standby.
Well, do the step/s I said above, do a Hard Reset before and see how you are going.
I'll try it out and get back to you amigo.
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1- Start using Advanced Task Killer aka ATK. Try the Free version from market first, if you like it then buy the paid one. It has worked splendidly well for me.
If you want to do it the hard way then the followings,
2- Root your phone, install Titanium Backup/Pro and Freeze/Uninstall the programs which are useless and you don't use. Apps like AP Mobile, SNS Accounts, Software Update always searches for update.
3- Make sure to Turn Off Wi-Fi, 3G, Packet Data, Auto Sync, Background Data when not needed.
4- Try to keep Manual refreshing in the application rather than Automatic refreshment.
5- Keep as low as possible widgets. More widgets equal to more battery drainage.
6- Install an app called Battery Calibration by Nema from and Calibrate the battery. It's a MUST step imo.
Regards.
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I agree with all your suggestions except the first one, it is not recommended to use a task killer at all.
Also to the OP, check this thread, this has greatly increased my battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144099
Don't use ATK, you shouldn't need it
Post screenshots of settings > about > battery usage. Of both of the battery graph and the list of %'s.
Its most likely that something is keeping the phone from going to sleep, what rom version are you using? (in settings>about "build number"/"kernel version"/"baseband version")
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I agree with all your suggestions except the first one, it is not recommended to use a task killer at all.
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A friend of mine said the same to me. But I really don't understand why I shall not use ATK when it is giving me a great result? I tried almost everything before, freezing this and that, uninstalling some apps and etc etc..but the Awake bar was constantly getting on at some intervals, but after ATK the story is completely changed. So I'd recommend it highly
ithehappy said:
1- Start using Advanced Task Killer aka ATK. Try the Free version from market first, if you like it then buy the paid one. It has worked splendidly well for me.
If you want to do it the hard way then the followings,
2- Root your phone, install Titanium Backup/Pro and Freeze/Uninstall the programs which are useless and you don't use. Apps like AP Mobile, SNS Accounts, Software Update always searches for update.
3- Make sure to Turn Off Wi-Fi, 3G, Packet Data, Auto Sync, Background Data when not needed.
4- Try to keep Manual refreshing in the application rather than Automatic refreshment.
5- Keep as low as possible widgets. More widgets equal to more battery drainage.
6- Install an app called Battery Calibration by Nema from and Calibrate the battery. It's a MUST step imo.
Regards.
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Remove Advanced Task Killer, insert JUICE DEFENDER or GREEN POWER ... go i know you need it!!
veyka said:
Don't use ATK, you shouldn't need it
Post screenshots of settings > about > battery usage. Of both of the battery graph and the list of %'s.
Its most likely that something is keeping the phone from going to sleep, what rom version are you using? (in settings>about "build number"/"kernel version"/"baseband version")
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I have the same problem, but my display is taking to much %, but every thing is on low? brightness is very low can some one tell me how to set it down ?? Thank you
Greetzz
Agamennon said:
Remove Advanced Task Killer, insert JUICE DEFENDER or GREEN POWER ... go i know you need it!!
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Alright, I am disabling the ATK for the moment and installed and set up Juice Defender Ultimate on Customized profile for overnight. I will come back and post how did I find it, over ATK or under.
Regards.
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You have the stock email client wakelock problem, as you can see the phone is not sleeping
Upgrade to a KF2 or KG1 rom and it should be better.
Also check out the app safe to remove in my sig and consider freeing the samsung bloatware
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You have the stock email client wakelock problem, as you can see the phone is not sleeping
Upgrade to a KF2 or KG1 rom and it should be better.
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Thanks for the diagnosis. I've went ahead and rooted (about time anyway) to the VillianRom and i'm going to calibrate the battery.
Is there an e-mail client I can use that won't have this problem...?
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Is there an e-mail client I can use that won't have this problem...?
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You can try K-9 Mail or Kaiten Mail. They aren't bad . But I frankly yet to find a good email client, tried those I said, and also, MailDroid, Enhanced Email, but none of them suited me. Finally back with stock GMail and Email.
***Update from my side,***
Installed Juice Defender Ultimate last night with Night Mode enabled on Customise profile and disabled ATK and at today morning I noticed there was no battery drain, it was 31% last night and the same today morning after 9 hours. With ATK it was around 2-3%. So far so good, but I will wait and see further.
I have a query, does the Preset work in JD? What preset is advised? Extreme or Advanced? or else to save more juice?
Regards.
I've started using K-9 Mail.
Everything seems to be working fab now: Fully charged last night and then calibrated the battery.
Lost 5% in 10 hours 30min with sync set to half hourly!
Well pleased.
ithehappy said:
You can try K-9 Mail or Kaiten Mail. They aren't bad . But I frankly yet to find a good email client, tried those I said, and also, MailDroid, Enhanced Email, but none of them suited me. Finally back with stock GMail and Email.
***Update from my side,***
Installed Juice Defender Ultimate last night with Night Mode enabled on Customise profile and disabled ATK and at today morning I noticed there was no battery drain, it was 31% last night and the same today morning after 9 hours. With ATK it was around 2-3%. So far so good, but I will wait and see further.
I have a query, does the Preset work in JD? What preset is advised? Extreme or Advanced? or else to save more juice?
Regards.
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The problem with ATK is that is totally screws with 2.3's task management system, also it will be waking the phone up all the time, the longer the phone can be asleep the better.
MA14NEY said:
I've started using K-9 Mail.
Everything seems to be working fab now: Fully charged last night and then calibrated the battery.
Lost 5% in 10 hours 30min with sync set to half hourly!
Well pleased.
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Goodo! Im glad to hear its working for you.
with VR2.0 the less time your screen is on the longer you will get, some people have gotten 4-5 day battery life with almost no screen time.
Any ideas? Like an immediate restart. The percentage seems to drop instead.
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Any ideas? Like an immediate restart. The percentage seems to drop instead.
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Because more things are happening. Media scanner is one example. The autobrightness sensor doesn't kick in until it loads, etc. You are just using more juice to boot up than you are during a normal idle state. The battery's normal charge state also drops most precipitously from peak, then levels off gradually, i.e. you lose the first few percent quicker than the rest.
Im running paranoidandroid and i dont get much of a drop in battery. Dont know if ots because it not the sammy rom or if its cuz i dont have a lot of apps so try removing apps many of them have some start up crap that needs to be loaded and all that so if you are a regular restarter try removing any start up apps. There are free apps on the play store u can use for this
i am getting terrible battery life on my 5 day old Galaxy 4 for VZ. i have disabled every thing i can, i use twitter, FB, Instagram, syng google and contacts, google keep etc. i cannot get over 1.5 hours screen on time, and it drains when idle also. i get maybe 7 hours total..
i want to love and keep this but man, i am getting gnex battery life with it. i have read so many good reviews on the battery life but something is up.
any ideas??? would rooting and installing like clean rom help?
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Rooting and apps like Greenify.
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The phone probably never sleeps the way you have it set up. All that stuff syncs in the background and therefore never lets the phone sleep. Stuff you don't have to know about constantly you should either turn off sync and manually sync it or try making it sync like say every hours or 4 hours not every 15 min. Honestly there are maybe 30-50 things that can cause your battery drain from a stock device that is new. But that is where i would start.
Also, make sure your GPS is off and your not using location services from VZW but just the normal google.
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The phone probably never sleeps the way you have it set up. All that stuff syncs in the background and therefore never lets the phone sleep. Stuff you don't have to know about constantly you should either turn off sync and manually sync it or try making it sync like say every hours or 4 hours not every 15 min. Honestly there are maybe 30-50 things that can cause your battery drain from a stock device that is new. But that is where i would start.
Also, make sure your GPS is off and your not using location services from VZW but just the normal google.
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great info....so what about some of the apps that people have said to install? i dont really want to root..especially since there is NO recovery...
also..i checked and i did notice it was awake allot, and GOOGLE CONTACTS took ALLOT of kernal usage..
Honestly I dont like apps used to control other apps. That means they run in thr background causing cpu cycles... hence waking the phone.
if youre not going to root, then go into the app manager and disable what you dont use and what youre able to. Not all apps are disablable. I even disable maps untill I need it
I noticed a lot of battery drain with my rooted ME7 version. Greenify helped but what really worked for me is this: Go to System Settings>More>Location Services and disable Wi-Fi & mobile network location (Google Location Services). Use VZW and Standalone GPS only. It may take your apps a tad bit longer to display your GPS position but you'll gain a lot of battery life. My GPS is always on, sync everything including 2 different Google accounts (all at the shortest interval) and have the other usual things running, ie. Facebook, Google Voice, Weather Bug, Go SMS, etc.
You've got wake locks and need to determine what they are. Read this, it should help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31974989
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Rooting and apps like Greenify.
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Yes , I Agree ! :good:
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Yes , I Agree ! :good:
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I use greenify on all my phones!
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It's not as hard as you think...
dvigue said:
great info....so what about some of the apps that people have said to install? i dont really want to root..especially since there is NO recovery...
also..i checked and i did notice it was awake allot, and GOOGLE CONTACTS took ALLOT of kernal usage..
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If you don't want to root, there's not a lot you can do as far as wakelocks. However, I would download Macrodroid and set up some profiles that turn off everything (sync, data, wifi, bluetooth) when you turn your screen off, control your syncing to once an hour or hour and a half, and turn on your data/wifi when you turn your screen back on - or rather, when you unlock it. This simple task will take you less than 20 minutes and will save you hours of battery life. Like others said, disable GPS unless you absolutely need it. Also, I would turn off a lot of the gitchy features (air gesture, air view, multi windo, smart scroll, smart stay) all that crap that is cool to use once or twice but just eats your battery like crazy.
If you choose to get Macrodroid and want help setting up the profiles, let me know. Good luck. By the way, that doubled my battery life. Once I rooted, controlled the wakelocks and bought a zerolemon 7500 battery, I can actually get over 3 days of usage with something like 9 hours of screen time.
Edit: Found two pics to prove the above claim...