I'm so nervous about changing phones because I'm not sure what will be available come September. I like phones 4' & lower. I don't care for the bigger screens.
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The development for the Eris is just crazy good.
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If my contract was up in September, I'd be getting the bionic.
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I agree that phones are getting too big for my taste. Would be nice to at least have a dual core option with a screen <= 4 inches but I guess we'll have to learn to love a bigger phone. Here are the likely options come September:
Dual Core
Galaxy S II(Function) - 4.3" SAMOLED+, 4.93" x 2.6" x .334"?, 4.1oz, 1.2GHz Exynos, Mali-400 MP, 1GB, LTE?
Bionic - 4.3 or 4.5" LCD, ? dimensions, 1 or 1.2GHz OMAP 44xx, SGX540, 1GB, LTE
Droid X2 - 4.3" LCD, 5.02" x 2.58" x .39", 5.5oz, 1GHz Tegra 2, ULP GeForce, 512MB
Droid 3 - 4" LCD, 4.9" x 2.5" x .5", 6oz, 1GHz OMAP 4430, SGX540, 512MB
Single Core
Droid Incredible 2 - 4" SLCD, 4.75" x 2.52" x .48", 4.76oz, 1GHz 2nd Gen Snapdragon, Adreno 205, 768MB
Droid Charge - 4.3" SAMOLED+, 4.82" x 2.53" x .39-.55", 5.04oz, 1GHz Hummingbird, SGX540, 512MB, LTE
ThunderBolt - 4.3" LCD, 4.85" x 2.65" x .54", 6.23oz, 1GHz 2nd Gen Snapdragon, Adreno 205, 768MB LTE
Revolution - 4.3" LCD, 5.03" x 2.63" x 0.52", 6.08oz, 1GHz 2nd Gen Snapdragon, Adreno 205, 512MB, LTE
Droid Eris - 3.2" LCD, 4.45" x 2.19" .51", 4.8oz, 528MHz, integrated GPU, 288MB
I want HTC to come out with a dual core LTE phone on Verizon. Then I would be truly satisfied (for 6 months anyway).
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I want HTC to come out with a dual core LTE phone on Verizon. Then I would be truly satisfied (for 6 months anyway).
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later in the year, look for phones using the dual-core Qualcomm MSM8960 which will be 1.5 - 1.7 Ghz, and both 3G and 4G all in one chip. That's what I'm waiting for... (I even think there is a chance of this particular chip being used in the next [not-orange phone 5]. I wouldn't say apple in this forum.... Oooooops
I doubt it will still be available, but i would probably think about getting the samsung fascinate. It has a 1 ghrz processor and only a 5mb led camera. I'm cheap and don't want to spend over $100 for my phone. Hopefully, Droid Incredible 2 will be cheaper by Sept 15.
My contract is up in Nov. As of right now I'm leaning towards DInc2. But who knows what will happen come Nov or Dec
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My contract is up in Nov. As of right now I'm leaning towards DInc2. But who knows what will happen come Nov or Dec
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I know.... I was following the thread about obtaining s-off for like the last month. LOL
I really like the phone a lot. My brother in law has the incredible and i just want to take it from him and really modify it. He does have a custom rom on his, but so much more could be done. I really like the incredible, but they are to expensive on ebay.
I hope the incred will be cheaper come sept.
Well, if you get one i can't wait for a rom from you.
Wife has inc2, loves it. not sure what I'm going to get yet, come oct
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I hate to bring this up here when the Rezound isn't even released yet but what's the deal with this phone?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...rs/ShsH+(xda-developers)&utm_content=FaceBook
And 1st or 2nd quarter of 2012? Might be worth waiting for if it comes to Verizon.
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There will always be something better just around the corner...
And quad core won't make a big difference. There is nothing to do with that much power that android allows. Also, it is HSPA so that means Tmobile or ATT
I doubt it's real Tegra sucks IMO incredibly slow compared to other dual cores and HTC Sticks with qualcomm
Ok, Rezound it is.
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Stupid htc will probably give it a 1600 battery.
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Honestly the specs on this do look impressive though, Dual core 1.5 Ghz processor, a TRUE HD display if you look at resolution it will be highest even compared to the Moto RAZR and Samsung Nexus. Also has that whole Pure Beats audio thing going for it, depending on how much that matters.
With some rooting this could technically be the top for hardware in VZW's new 4G line up
Ehh, this phone is kinda ugly anyways, even if the quad-core mattered, and if it was on Verizon, I wouldn't wait for it. I don't like that big of a screen either, it's ridiculous. Vigor is where it's at
Yup. ReZound FTW.
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Stupid htc will probably give it a 1600 battery.
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I think they said it will be a 1650 battery.
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Honestly the specs on this do look impressive though, Dual core 1.5 Ghz processor, a TRUE HD display if you look at resolution it will be highest even compared to the Moto RAZR and Samsung Nexus. Also has that whole Pure Beats audio thing going for it, depending on how much that matters.
With some rooting this could technically be the top for hardware in VZW's new 4G line up
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its the same processor on the evo 3d just clocked higher out of the box
so we should be able go get 1.9ghz with custom kernels
Another Leaked phone
HTC Ville
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7...id-smartphone/
Supposedly gonna be the first with the Snapdragon S4 processor, 1.5GHz, and Android 4.0 + Sense 4.0, and 4.3 inch screen, with qHD, and super amoled type screen.
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HTC Ville
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7...id-smartphone/
Supposedly gonna be the first with the Snapdragon S4 processor, 1.5GHz, and Android 4.0 + Sense 4.0, and 4.3 inch screen, with qHD, and super amoled type screen.
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The link isn't working. "404 Page Not Found"
Blackthanos said:
The link isn't working. "404 Page Not Found"
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Weird. Well, you can google it, "HTC Ville", I found it by accident somewhere, but after I googled it, I saw a ton of articles on it already
Edit: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...umored-as-first-sense-4.0-android-smartphone/ I went back to that website, and recopied it, maybe it'll work now
if you're intrigued by the whole 'quad-core' thing, don't. it's going to be quite some time before phones will even take real advantage of that.
heck, even then, for instance my netbook has an i7 cpu in it and at any given time it's only using between 5 - 10% of the cpu. that and playing a game it'll average 30 - 40%. so really an i7 is unecessary.
also, if you're into speed... in no time we'll be able to overclock the re:Zound(not that we need to). Hell, my Thunderbolt's 1 jigga hertz cpu is overclocked to 1.9
but again, there will be no point in overclocking for a loooong time.
I think the HTC Edge is their sleekest and classiest phone design to date! Screw quad-core, give me it right now with current specs! Throw in a good low-power dual-core OMAP processor at 1Ghz, steal the camera unit off of Samsung's flagship, slap an 1800mah battery in there and I'll be happy!
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I think the HTC Edge is their sleekest and classiest phone design to date! Screw quad-core, give me it right now with current specs! Throw in a good low-power dual-core OMAP processor at 1Ghz, steal the camera unit off of Samsung's flagship, slap an 1800mah battery in there and I'll be happy!
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id agree except ford yhe battery. minimum of 5000mAh please.
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And quad core won't make a big difference. There is nothing to do with that much power that android allows. Also, it is HSPA so that means Tmobile or ATT
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the big news about the new quad-core phones is not only performance, but the capacity to save 30/40% of battery life more, compare to dual cores:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile...Performance_Benchmarks_of_Tegra_3_Kal_El.html
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I think the HTC Edge is their sleekest and classiest phone design to date! Screw quad-core, give me it right now with current specs! Throw in a good low-power dual-core OMAP processor at 1Ghz, steal the camera unit off of Samsung's flagship, slap an 1800mah battery in there and I'll be happy!
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Ditto, give me a 720p screen though.
Just wodnering how much difference in performance we will be seeing between the s3 and s4 soc. Both will be clocked @ 1.5 s3 is 45nm and s4 is 28nm a big jump there imo. So we should be seeing better heat as well as less power consumption. For the GPU's the s3 8660 has the Adreno 220 and the RAM is single channel DDR 2. The s4 is MSM8960 has the Adreno 225 (which claims up to 50% better performance vs the 220) and the RAM is dual channel. The single channel/dual channel RAM shouldn't make too much of a difference as I doubt there are any bottlenecks on the Rezound as one review was stating the possibly of. I guess we just have to wait and see once the s4 socs hit the market, although that probably wont be too long. I think the HTC Ville is going to be coming soon using the MSM8960 chipset probably, qHD display though. Seems to me that HTC and Motorola don't care about the time in between releases and just release phone after phone after phone. I'm not going to go into the whole they're a business blah blah, be happy with what you have blah blah. So any thought on the performance differences?
three's company, four's a crowd?...
The S4 will be MUCH better on the battery do to the smaller die size 28nm vs 45nm and also having 4G built in the chip set. So thats what is going to be really good about the S4 vs the S3. The 225 GPU is only for the second gen dual core chip and its going to be faster vs the 220(of coarse). Adreno 3XX is for the quadcores. The second gen dual cores should be clocked from 1.7-2.3ghz and should be some nice power houses compared to what we have now.
If the Rezound would have come with the S4 processor. I wouldnt even be considering trading in the Rezound for the Nexus. But....thats not the case.
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The S4 will be MUCH better on the battery do to the smaller die size 28nm vs 45nm and also having 4G built in the chip set. So thats what is going to be really good about the S4 vs the S3. The 225 GPU is only for the second gen dual core chip and its going to be faster vs the 220(of coarse). Adreno 3XX is for the quadcores. The second gen dual cores should be clocked from 1.7-2.3ghz and should be some nice power houses compared to what we have now.
If the Rezound would have come with the S4 processor. I wouldnt even be considering trading in the Rezound for the Nexus. But....thats not the case.
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you do realize that the overall hardware specs of the Rezound are better then the Galaxy Nexus?... the only thing the GN has over it is the bigger screen.
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you do realize that the overall hardware specs of the Rezound are better then the Galaxy Nexus?... the only thing the GN has over it is the bigger screen.
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and NFC.
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NFC is one of those niche things right now. Unless you are just one of those showoffs, how often will you actually go to McDonald's to use it? lol.
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you do realize that the overall hardware specs of the Rezound are better then the Galaxy Nexus?... the only thing the GN has over it is the bigger screen.
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hey now....i said consider...
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The S4 will be MUCH better on the battery do to the smaller die size 28nm vs 45nm and also having 4G built in the chip set. So thats what is going to be really good about the S4 vs the S3. The 225 GPU is only for the second gen dual core chip and its going to be faster vs the 220(of coarse). Adreno 3XX is for the quadcores. The second gen dual cores should be clocked from 1.7-2.3ghz and should be some nice power houses compared to what we have now.
If the Rezound would have come with the S4 processor. I wouldnt even be considering trading in the Rezound for the Nexus. But....thats not the case.
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Mm I think the first series will only be 1.5 -1.7ghz for the new dual core kraits. I guess we just have to wait and see if there just marginal or huge increases in performance. All these hardware bumps feel kinda unnecessary, although I am all for the smaller die size w/ integrated LTE. I really wish they would focus on the primary thing that needs work the software. I guess I really should just used to buying a phone and having it blasted down the next week or two in Android.
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you do realize that the overall hardware specs of the Rezound are better then the Galaxy Nexus?... the only thing the GN has over it is the bigger screen.
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Bigger screen at lower resolution and the size difference is completely negated by the soft buttons in ICS, as the space taken up on the Rezound by physical buttons will be taken up by soft buttons on the Nexus. Usable screen area will be nearly identical.
The only thing the Nexus has over the Rezound is ICS at release and NFC.
I am confused. Which is faster - HTC One S on Snapdragon S4 or it's big bro, HTC one x? Can someone explain
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I am confused. Which is faster - HTC One S on Snapdragon S4 or it's big bro, HTC one x? Can someone explain
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The HTC One S is dual core device, the HTC One X is quad core, so the One X should be faster
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DarkhShadow said:
The HTC One S is dual core device, the HTC One X is quad core, so the One X should be faster
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Sorry, but you can't just assume that because the Tegra 3 has more cores, it is faster. In most cases, the S4 > Tegra 3 CPU-wise, but the Tegra 3 > S4 GPU-wise.
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Sorry, but you can't just assume that because the Tegra 3 has more cores, it is faster. In most cases, the S4 > Tegra 3 CPU-wise, but the Tegra 3 > S4 GPU-wise.
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I said SHOULD be faster, oh and in my opinion the GPUs are pretty similar
I have tried both of them, the One X feels faster and plays games better
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Well, your post heavily implied that One X is faster than the One S because it has a quad core and that was your only reason. Also, your reply made no sense. You say the GPUs "are pretty similar" then say that the One X "plays games better."
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Well, your post heavily implied that One X is faster than the One S because it has a quad core and that was your only reason. Also, your reply made no sense. You say the GPUs "are pretty similar" then say that the One X "plays games better."
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Well because the One X has more processor power to mess around with if required
One thing I will say which I HATE is they both require a MicroSIM -.-
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S4 by far is a more efficient processor than Tegra 3
HTC One X has a higher resolution screen, which means it has a tougher job to do when pushing those extra polygons around and is probably why its scoring lower in terms of processing power, plus extra resolution of the One X makes it a slightly unfair to compare it with One S.
From what I've seen and read they are very comparable in terms of performance ..supposedly the s4 is a little more responsive in day to day operations like browsing etc..but the tegra has aa slight edge in gpu performance ..the krait is built on a smaller 28 NM tech. Which sounds good to me
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HTC One X has a higher resolution screen, which means it has a tougher job to do when pushing those extra polygons around and is probably why its scoring lower in terms of processing power, plus extra resolution of the One X makes it a slightly unfair to compare it with One S.
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The increase in resolution only taxes the GPU harder. The CPU in the One S still trounces the CPU in the Tegra 3, albeit not by much. In day to day usage, you won't notice the differences in speed.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-hit-canada-june-20-2-gb-ram-confirmed
So as the title suggest, what is better? Is the Quad Core 1 Gig better than the Dual Core 2 Gig versions of the S III? What about the video quality on the 2 Gig version? Is that going to suffer? And even more, is it worth jumping to the S III if you are on the Galaxy Nexus?
My initial thought is with Apex Pro installed as the UI the S III will feel close to the GNex but with more RAM so it may be an upgrade although a minor one.
What are your thoughts on this? Everybody weigh in.
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2 gb I will take hands down. LTE and the s4 combo works well, as proven by the HOX
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If only I have a choice. Dual core 2gb Ram is of course better. With LTE support, is definitely way better than Quad core.
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Q hmm ....resembles Q&A..
Don't know if you care about audio, but we don't know yet if the dual core version will still keep the Wolfson DAC.
If the LTE version will have the same battery capacity of 2100 mAh as the international counterpart definitely will have a better battery life.
I guess I made the assumption that the Audio would be the same...not a good thing to do I guess.
These are the specs for ease of viewing:
•Processor: Snapdragon S4 Dual Core 1.5 GHz with Qualcomm MSM8960 Chipset
•OS: ICS 4.0.4
•Data: LTE (SGH-i747 variation) and HSPA+ 42 (SGH-iT999 variation)
•Memory: 2 GB RAM
•Dimensions: 136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6 mm
•Weight: 133g
•Storage: 16/32GB internal memory (SGH-i747)/ 16GB internal memory (SGH-iT999). Expandable microSD up to 32GB
•Display: 4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED 1280x720 (306ppi)
•Connectivity: NFC, Bluetooth 4.0, DLNA, WiFi 802.11 a/b/g/n, MHL Video Out
•Camera: 8MP Rear-facing, 1.9MP Front-facing
•Battery: 2100 mAh
...no mention of the Audio though
Disclaimer: I am not a professional reviewer, these are just my observations.
Due to a lack of research on my part, I am currently the owner of both a US and International HTC One X. The short story is that I bought a used ATT One X after looking at the spec sheet, not realizing until after I had received it, that it was essentially half the phone that I was expecting. I didn't read the part about the US version being different. So I then tracked down an international version and have been doing some comparisons.
I have read several places, especially on the xda forums, that the US version is faster than the International version. However, after running several benchmarks, my results do not reflect that, not even remotely. For a comparison, I am including my current Droid RAZR. These are free apps from the Google Play market. These scores are the average of three runs, rounded up.
CF Bench(Higher is better): International - 13231, US - 9496, Droid RAZR - 4692
CPU Benchmark(Lower is better): International - 498ms, US - 602ms, Droid RAZR - 702ms
PassMark CPU Test(Higher is better): International - 7410, US - 3556, Droid RAZR - 3061
PassMark Disk Test(Higher is better): International - 3835, US - 3523, Droid RAZR - 2411
PassMark Memory Test(Higher is better): US - 1635, Droid RAZR - 938, International 920
PassMark 2D Graphics Test(Higher is better): International - 1878, Droid RAZR - 1833, US - 1533
PassMark 3D Graphics Test(Higher is better): International - 716, US - 668, Droid RAZR - 654
Quadrant Standard CPU(Higher is better): International - 13223, US - 8395, Droid RAZR - 4882
Quadrant Standard MEM(Higher is better): US - 7547, International - 3498, Droid RAZR - 2985
Quadrant Standard I/O(Higher is better): International - 5479, US - 3630, Droid RAZR - 2941
Quadrant Standard 2D(Higher is better): International - 1000, US - 990, Droid RAZR - 981
Quadrant Standard 3D(Higher is better): International - 2365, Droid RAZR - 2303, US - 2126
The international version is faster in almost every benchmark with the exception of the Memory(RAM) benchmarks.
My conclusion: People in the US market are getting screwed. The US version is slower(albeit only slightly in some cases), has half the storage space, comes with ATT crapware, and is also slightly slower than my Droid RAZR in some benchmarks.
What are your thoughts?
I've had both and the US version lags WAY more with the intl I had zero lag ever whatsoever. Even battery sucks more on at&t version. The one s was always compared to the one x bc.of the advantage of having the lower res screen helped it be close to X in the benchmarks
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The freaking storage u get on the US version is what 9GB usable? Totally inexcusable, the price is finally where it needs to be, at $99 on contract
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There are three issues with the U.S. One X (which is actually an XL):
- Adreno reserves 350MB of RAM for itself which kills multitasking which isn't too hot to begin with.
- There's 10GB of user available storage.
- The radios (BT & WI-Fi) are having tons more issues than the international version. It could just be AT&T's implementation of them.
If I had to buy a U.S. carrier phone, as much as like the One X, I'd buy an SGS3. There's a 1.7GHz Teg3/Icera LTE XL being tested for use on AT&T. That could be an interesting phone.
Here's something else I've just noticed: In "Settings" under the "Apps" heading and then the "Running" tab, you should get a good idea of how much RAM your phone is using. Both phones are supposed to have 1 GB of RAM. My international HOX shows 541 MB used and 438 MB free for a total off 979 MB(Close enough). My US HOX shows 341MB used and 331 MB free for a total of 672 MB of RAM.
Where is the rest of the RAM on my US HOX?
EDIT: Just saw a previous post that answered my question.
First time i notice this thread and i have to say nice job and thanks :good:
you are basically confirming everything we analysed and predicted in the One X mega information thread
The dual krait snapdragon 4 was over hyped for the sake of competition with Tegra 3, in terms of graphics performance its no match to Tegra 3 on native 720p
Also all this abundance of memory bandwith is not needed unless you are on a quad processor, on the other hand the One X Tegra 3 has no memory bandwidth issues in actually real world due to the massive IO speed
This leaves battery, with the snapdragon 4 One X you are trading screen on times with screen off times on the Tegra 3 One X
Every snapdragon device i ever tested had the problem of drain during screen off, in fact nothing in the android world can match the dead sleep time on Tegra 3 thanks to the low power core
As for heat, things got a lot better in the latest update for the One X and it only appear when you push it hard with heavy games, you should perfectly accept this when you know your buying a quad core on 40nm
Thanks for your tests. Since the tests were made in early August (before post date of 02-Aug-12), that time both HOX had Android 4.03. Now both have 4.04 (Firmware 2.17 for international & 2.20 for US) which, at least for the international version, brought major speed improvements.
hamdir said:
First time i notice this thread and i have to say nice job and thanks :good:
you are basically confirming everything we analysed and predicted in the One X mega information thread
The dual krait snapdragon 4 was over hyped for the sake of competition with Tegra 3, in terms of graphics performance its no match to Tegra 3 on native 720p
Also all this abundance of memory bandwith is not needed unless you are on a quad processor, on the other hand the One X Tegra 3 has no memory bandwidth issues in actually real world due to the massive IO speed
This leaves battery, with the snapdragon 4 One X you are trading screen on times with screen off times on the Tegra 3 One X
Every snapdragon device i ever tested had the problem of drain during screen off, in fact nothing in the android world can match the dead sleep time on Tegra 3 thanks to the low power core
As for heat, things got a lot better in the latest update for the One X and it only appear when you push it hard with heavy games, you should perfectly accept this when you know your buying a quad core on 40nm
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wait till u see tegra 4, 32nm and 1.8ghz quad
as usual, an even more powerful geforce gpu
Here are some more benchmarks. Took screenshots. 1st pic is the US HOX, 2nd one is the Global HOX.