From what I've seen (e.g., Bloatware Disabler and ViperMod), the bloatware zappers out there are all permanent and thus survive a reboot (unlike the root itself).
I'm one of many that wants the option of a one-click root that is totally temporary but does everything you'd want (overclock, Hulu fix, etc). The missing piece of the puzzle here is a temporary bloat disabler or uninstaller.
Does this kind of mod exist? If so I'd be happy to incorporate it into my existing one-click roots.
I'm guessing that if the changes are non-permanent (i.e., are undone at reboot) then the best we can do is FREEZE and not uninstall the apps, right?
If that's true, I propose two roots: Root 1 strips out all the bloatware, overclocks, roots, etc etc (all the good stuff ). If you want to return to stock, Root 2 will reroot, REINSTALL THE DELETED APPS, then reboot so that you're back to stock in terms of system files.
Going either direction on this will, I think, be a step in the right direction.
(PS: I apologize for my noobishness; however, I've been creating some helpful tools for people recently and I think this is the next step, but some overall guidance first would really help! Please consider my earnestness before flaming! )
THANKS IN ADVANCE
The way pm disable works on apps and packages is permanent. You can do pm uninstall com.htc.taskiller (for example) and it should work, I have never tried it. Im 100% sure it will come back on a reboot, though. With vMBM, you can just enable everything from the Advanced menu in a few seconds. Were you aware of that?
I really like where your headed with this. I did manage to delete a single file and did an install of swype and it seems to be the only thing that sticks after reboot. Think it was the install file from oem.
has to be something to remove to prevent apps from reinstalling them selves.
Btw, after you ad this to your mod script when finished, can you throw in apfree install. Thanx in advanced.
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The way pm disable works on apps and packages is permanent. You can do pm uninstall com.htc.taskiller (for example) and it should work, I have never tried it. Im 100% sure it will come back on a reboot, though. With vMBM, you can just enable everything from the Advanced menu in a few seconds. Were you aware of that?
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So you're saying that Vipermod simply freezes the apps, and they can be re enabled easily from a menu? Do apps stay frozen Thu reboot?
I guess what I'm thinking here is that I want a root that 100% strips out bloated (so I guess uninstall) but which either does NOT persist Thu boot or else can be restored later with one click deeply (i tried to explain this in OP. If I understand vipermod correctly, I think that'd be the second best option (merely freezing apps). Of course, in the preceding I'm assuming that uninstalled is better than frozen, all things being equal.
What do you think?
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I really like where your headed with this. I did manage to delete a single file and did an install of swype and it seems to be the only thing that sticks after reboot. Think it was the install file from oem.
has to be something to remove to prevent apps from reinstalling them selves.
Btw, after you ad this to your mod script when finished, can you throw in apfree install. Thanx in advanced.
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Right--my assumption is that with temp root I could go in and delete a **** ton of system files and totally destroy my phone--right?? Basically, to reiterate, BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE WORLD OF TEMP ROOT ANYWAY, AND REQUIRE FREQUENT REROOT, IF I'M GOING TO FREQUENTLY REROOT I MIGHT AS WELL HAVE THE OPTION TO NOT ONLY STRIP OUT BLOATED BUT **ALSO** QUICKLY RETURN TO STOCK (FOR WARRANTY, SERVICE, ETC.) Can you offer some guidance?
As to Adfree, there's no need to add that. I only want my oneclick to do stuff you'd otherwise have to do manually after rooting. This isn't necessary with Adfree--after root just use the fast reboot app and address works fine, no? (or does it NOT work? Angry Birds seems to have LESS ads but isn't totally adfree--I've been assuming it was simply "beating" the adfree app.)
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How about just freezing apps with titanium backup? It sticks with a reboot and only takes a single click per app to freeze/unfreeze.
tapa tapa tapa
Titanium freeze uses the pm disable. Pm disable will stick through reboot. If you want to not have a system app only til reboot, just delete in terminal or with root explorer. And I believe a data/factory reset wipe would restore frozen apps
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Right--my assumption is that with temp root I could go in and delete a **** ton of system files and totally destroy my phone--right?? Basically, to reiterate, BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE WORLD OF TEMP ROOT ANYWAY, AND REQUIRE FREQUENT REROOT, IF I'M GOING TO FREQUENTLY REROOT I MIGHT AS WELL HAVE THE OPTION TO NOT ONLY STRIP OUT BLOATED BUT **ALSO** QUICKLY RETURN TO STOCK (FOR WARRANTY, SERVICE, ETC.) Can you offer some guidance?
As to Adfree, there's no need to add that. I only want my oneclick to do stuff you'd otherwise have to do manually after rooting. This isn't necessary with Adfree--after root just use the fast reboot app and address works fine, no? (or does it NOT work? Angry Birds seems to have LESS ads but isn't totally adfree--I've been assuming it was simply "beating" the adfree app.)
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Require frequent reroot... Sorry to hear that. Only happens to me if I let battery run completely out.
Return to stock... Can't you use RUU for that?
Adfree... I've had really mixed luck with.
AS For bloat, I use titanium backup. No problems on my end.
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So you're saying that Vipermod simply freezes the apps, and they can be re enabled easily from a menu? Do apps stay frozen Thu reboot?
I guess what I'm thinking here is that I want a root that 100% strips out bloated (so I guess uninstall) but which either does NOT persist Thu boot or else can be restored later with one click deeply (i tried to explain this in OP. If I understand vipermod correctly, I think that'd be the second best option (merely freezing apps). Of course, in the preceding I'm assuming that uninstalled is better than frozen, all things being equal.
What do you think?
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Correct, it uses the pm disable command on apps. It stays after a reboot but can be easily re-enabled after a reboot.
basically this guy wants a script similar to vipermod that "rm stupid.apk" from the /system/app directory instead of "pm disable" which is very very simple. that way upon reboot it all returns
t3project said:
basically this guy wants a script similar to vipermod that "rm stupid.apk" from the /system/app directory instead of "pm disable" which is very very simple. that way upon reboot it all returns
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So I guess I'm confused. If i temp root, then go into root explorer and delete all kinds of system files--they'll come back after reboot?
And yes, my root sticks til a true reboot, but not thereafter. Isn't that the case with everyone?
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If you disable the app in titanium or thru adb then the .apk file still is on the phone..but NOT usable or loadable...if you uninstall the app then the file is off the phone...then if you do a reboot....the phone will reinstall the programs you deleted but the disabled apps stay disabled, invisible to the machine but the apk of that program is still on the machine..usually in /SYSTEM/APPS or /DATA/APPS. Ugly but it works like a charm. And from what I read...it is for everybody....hope this answers your question.
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So I guess I'm confused. If i temp root, then go into root explorer and delete all kinds of system files--they'll come back after reboot?
And yes, my root sticks til a true reboot, but not thereafter. Isn't that the case with everyone?
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As said above yes they will come back. You have no write access to system. So although you think you are deleting them, you are not. You are only "deleting" them from cache. Disabling them, actually writes to an xml file in the data directory (which apps have access to). If you have fast boot turned on, you are not truly "rebooting" and that's why root stays.
Related
NOTE: These rooting methods may not work after you install the OTA.
Use Amon Ra recovery to install superuser
This should give you root for ICS Here
Perm Root Method - Gingerbread only
If you unlocked the bootloader with HTCDev.com then use the OneClickRoot with pure zergRush for perm root exploit
Download - OneClickRoot
Once you are perm rooted you can use the disable, enable, Wireless Tether and adblock options in the tool.
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Temp Root Method
Use the root option in the Tool which is only good for temp root with the locked bootloader.
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Tool
New version of temp root to make it easier to use with more options.
Menu driven including:
Temp root
Disable and enable application and other packages
Wireless Tether
Ad block
See screenshot below for all options.
Temp root now holds until reboot.
Disabled applications hold until enabled.
Updated and Working:
Latest zergRush package
Latest adb inline
Latest Superuser and su binary are installed if not already installed
Latest busybox
Thanks to scrosler for the idea of including the application disabling as part of the tool.
Thanks to con247 and meizu devs for the zergRush script that persists until reboot
NOTE: If this does not work for you try scrosler's or con247's versions. Subtle difference may make one or the other work better for you.
Instructions:
Extract all of zip file to your PC
Open folder (do not rename files folder)
Reboot your phone
Make sure HTC Sync is not running on PC
Connect phone in Charge only mode
Double click TempRootTool.bat
Run your choices and exit
Mount SD Card in Settings > SD and phone storage
Have fun.
NOTE: If you do lose root reboot first then reapply.
Menu Options:
1) Temp Root Device - Will temp root your phone and install Superuser if it is not already installed
2) Disable applications - Will disable applications in your application list
3) Enable applications - Will enable applications in your application list
4) Edit Applications List - Will put the application list in notepad for editing (currently set for the bloat I disable)
5) Install Wireless Tether
6) Install ad block host file
R) === Reboot your Device === - Will reboot your device. Reboot if you don't need temp root after managing applications
H) Help - Help information
ENTER - Exit
Download Temp Root Tool v2
Ill try it on Wednesday when I get the device. Atleast we can use titanium.
One thing I was thinking is there any way we can boot into custom recovery with temp root? Because I know on one phone that I rooted for someone it would just reboot into a temporary custom recovery from which stuff could be flashed. Obviously if it boot looped you needed to RUU restore but it was worth the trouble to get root.
is this wireless tether app susceptible to verizon identifying unauthorized wifi tether use? I know on other devices only certain ROMS are safe.
Just tried this. Unfortunately it doesn't work at all for me. I tried running Cache Cleaner NG and it said that it was unable to get root permissions. I tried clicking on SuperUser (the app itself) and it FCs every time.
EDIT: Rebooted and tried again and it appears to be working.
EDIT2: Not working again. Seems to only last a few minutes.
Alright enough is enough. Imma try it.now. all this talk about root is driving me nuts. Thanks Nils..
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I tried to get temp root using the zerg technique, and it didn't work too good. I want to try this method, but I'm not sure how to remove the Superuser from my first attempt. It doesn't show up as an uninstallable app. Can anyone shed some light for me? Thanks!
its worked for me! though it still didnt mount the SD, so i took off the back lifted the battery a LITTLE and used a paper clip to slide out the sd and then to slide it back in. then i went to TI and it didnt want to work, so i uninstalled and reinstalled both, and then it worked. now i have everything frozen that i wanted.
The first try it worked but something didnt go through so i reboot the phone tried it again and worked like a charm. thank you greatly appriciated
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its worked for me! though it still didnt mount the SD, so i took off the back lifted the battery a LITTLE and used a paper clip to slide out the sd and then to slide it back in. then i went to TI and it didnt want to work, so i uninstalled and reinstalled both, and then it worked. now i have everything frozen that i wanted.
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Do the things stay frozen after a reboot?
combatmedic870 said:
its worked for me! though it still didnt mount the SD, so i took off the back lifted the battery a LITTLE and used a paper clip to slide out the sd and then to slide it back in. then i went to TI and it didnt want to work, so i uninstalled and reinstalled both, and then it worked. now i have everything frozen that i wanted.
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You know, you can go into SETTINGS>SD & Phone Storage and remount it that way... for next time.
I tried this and mine also unmounted my SD Card and Titanium didn't have root access. Uninstalled Titanium and the phone rebooted on its own and is now in a an infinite boot loop. Guess I am going to have to use HBOOT, wipe the phone and start ALL FREAKING OVER AGAIN! fml
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its worked for me! though it still didnt mount the SD, so i took off the back lifted the battery a LITTLE and used a paper clip to slide out the sd and then to slide it back in. then i went to TI and it didnt want to work, so i uninstalled and reinstalled both, and then it worked. now i have everything frozen that i wanted.
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Lol, talk about doing it the hard way! Just go to Settings>SD & Phone Storage>Mount SD Card and wa-la! No need to physically slide it out then back in lol.
rboddy said:
Lol, talk about doing it the hard way! Just go to Settings>SD & Phone Storage>Mount SD Card and wa-la! No need to physically slide it out then back in lol.
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well...yea.....
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You know, you can go into SETTINGS>SD & Phone Storage and remount it that way... for next time.
I tried this and mine also unmounted my SD Card and Titanium didn't have root access. Uninstalled Titanium and the phone rebooted on its own and is now in a an infinite boot loop. Guess I am going to have to use HBOOT, wipe the phone and start ALL FREAKING OVER AGAIN! fml
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Just pull the battery
Nils, question. Do I just download the zip file directly to my phones sdcard in the described folder I would create, then install it from there directly from the phone?
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con247 said:
Do the things stay frozen after a reboot?
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To answer this question, yes they do!!!
So let's start a "What can we safely freeze" list. I was pretty conservative the first time:
Blockbuster
Backup Assistant
VCast
VCast Music
Let's Play Golf
Need for Speed
Rebooted and they're all still gone. Root has been lost though, I'd have to re-run the app to get root back.
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Nils, question. Do I just download the zip file directly to my phones sdcard in the described folder I would create, then install it from there directly from the phone?
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No, you install it from your PC
what i have frozen safely without any ill affects.
all verizon apps besides backup assistant, my verizon mobile, voicemail.
also took off, facebook, flickr, amazon, polaris, internet, mobile im, blockbuster, also games.
but....try them out yourself....this is what i have taken off without anything wrong....doesnt mean it wont screw your phone up!
ChaOConnor said:
To answer this question, yes they do!!!
So let's start a "What can we safely freeze" list. I was pretty conservative the first time:
Blockbuster
Backup Assistant
VCast
VCast Music
Let's Play Golf
Need for Speed
Rebooted and they're all still gone. Root has been lost though, I'd have to re-run the app to get root back.
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Awesome. If they stay frozen i can live without soff/root for much longer.
I am having the same issue with applying the update, root installs fine and when I reboot root is gone, along with Superuser, Busybox, etc. installed it a few times and every time I reboot root gets lost.
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I am having the same issue with applying the update, root installs fine and when I reboot root is gone, along with Superuser, Busybox, etc. installed it a few times and every time I reboot root gets lost.
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Thats the whole point of TEMP root. When you reboot, Root is GONE. You have to Re-root every time you reboot your phone.
Folks,
I just got a Galaxy Note 1717 the other day and i'm still learning. I'll probably root it once ICS comes out for it on AT&T, but i'm still a bit confused about what that *means*. The threads i've read on it here and there seem to make some assumptions that as a linux user i'm not making properly.
When you root an android phone what actually happens?
If i root an android phone does that mean:
a) I've allowed acess to the root user by either changing the sudo rules or setting home to /root instead of /bin/false or /bin/nologin?
b) when i'm using the phone i'm doing so as the root user instead of [whatver user i am when it's not rooted. I don't know what name user 1000 has becuase i can't find the passwd file and probably wouldn't have the rights to it even if i could]
or is it some other thing that's actually happening when you root a phone?
As a Gentoo linux user i find this a bit confusing, even if it is a linux/gnu based system.
A) would mean that various programs are able to acces the root user when they need to.
b) would mean that i'm essencially logged in as root all the time, which in the linux word is a THOU-SHALT-NOT.
Thanks,
Bearcat
From a practical point of view, when you root, you are able to give some apps superuser permissions.
Now this means
Apps like Titanium backup can remove vendor installed apps, which is otherwise not possible.
Phone locator kind of apps can turn on and turn off GPS radio. You do not have to manually enable it.
From a linux users perspective, you can fire up terminal and do a rm -rf / . But do not do that!
Thanks.
So, to clarify: if i root my Note and then fire up mxplayer and watch a movie ,then fire up pageonce to look at my bank accounts, does that mean that i've just done both of those things as the root user?
Here's a more technical explanation of how root works that answers some of your questions:
http://cjix.info/blog/misc/how-rooting-works-a-technical-explanation-of-the-android-rooting-process/
Quick answer to your question - no. things are only run as a su if they need to, or rather, if the app has some functions that need it. Eg - titaniums access to /system needs root access, so the app fires up with su permissions. Only apps that need root access get it, and you have to allow the app the access.
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Thanks for the link jr67, i'l read that over.
New Ion? thanks for the clarification. I understand it more now, and think i'll root my phone after ICS comes out for AT&T on the note.
Its very worth it, if even only for titanium. First thing you should do is backup everything.
Ooh and the paid version is the single most worth it app ever. Many apps ive paid for and havent touched really, TB's paid differences you use every time.
Edit - titanium, root explorer and wifi kill are the only apps I have that use root access. Just fyi
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Wow! Titanum back up looks fantastic! Granted, i don't know what all the terms mean (dalvik? Isn't that a Dr. Who thing? :") ). I grabbed ES File explorer but Root Explorer looks even better.
Side question: Is there any such thing as updating a rom once i have one installed, or do i have to backup, re-flash and restore with each update that comes out for a particular rom?
Android is programmed in Java. since Java cannot be run, but needs a virtual machine, we use the dalvik vm. When you install cwm, you will have the option to clear it, and you probably should, depending.
As for updates, it all depends on what the dev tells you to do. Example: cm9 nightlies only require cache and dalvik wipes, however the roms I run usually require a full wipe. It can suck, but there are ways to make it better.
Look into the advanced restore function of cwm. I've never used it, but I know done swear by it
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Thanks. I don't know what cwm is (at least anything more than it's some sort of rom). I'l look it up.
It replaces the stock recovery, and allows the user to interact with it. i think its hosted at clockworkmod.com as well
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My HTC One is rooted and I have Adaway and Adfree installed. I generally install both on all of my devices and run them side-by-side, even though it might be redundant/overkill.
On my One, ads will spontaneously stop being blocked. I'll see them in apps all of a sudden or somewhere else. When I open Adaway and tap the update button, the One reboots without prompt. When it comes back up, I'm able to update Adaway and ads are blocked again.Rinse and repeat a few days later. Ad blocking works for a while, then this happens all over again.
I haven't tried removing Adaway yet, but it seems to be the cause of the problem. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? What are you using to block ads on your One?
Yea, I'd say big overkill on the adblocking. I just use Adaway, it works perfect for me.
I would go to both programs and set things as default, uninstall both programs, clear cache and wipe dalvik. Install only one program, update from there and see how things go from there.
Xstop said:
Yea, I'd say big overkill on the adblocking. I just use Adaway, it works perfect for me.
I would go to both programs and set things as default, uninstall both programs, clear cache and wipe dalvik. Install only one program, update from there and see how things go from there.
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I could accept the fact that using both Adfree and Adaway together was the issue if I didn't have the same exact setup on my Nexus 10, Galaxy S4, Note 2, and Optimus G Pro with no issues whatsoever. I'm only having this issue on the HTC One and the fact that it reboots the phone when I launch Adaway makes me think it has something to do with that program.
I will try removing Adfree and see what happens.
Phone reboots because the stock kernel write protects the system partition and when the app attempts to remount it RW it blows up. There are kernel mods and ROMs that can bypass the write protection.
I explained how to make AdAway work without kernel mod in this thread (you need custom recovery however). Symlinking the hosts file to another partition is the suggestion from AdAway help section
Mantelinho said:
I explained how to make AdAway work without kernel mod in this thread (you need custom recovery however). Symlinking the hosts file to another partition is the suggestion from AdAway help section
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So Adaway is the issue? What about Adfree? Does it work normally? ABP?
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So Adaway is the issue? What about Adfree? Does it work normally? ABP?
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No, they all use the hosts file method to block advertiser hosts. This file is located in the write protected /system partition (at least for S-On devices) and changes are lost after reboot. The symlink method (linking to a writable partition) may also work with Adfree or ABP, however what definitely works is flashing the modified hosts file via recovery. Both methods listed here
Why does HTC have to be so much more difficult than everyone else? First, there's S-Off, something you don't need on Samsung, LG, etc devices, and now this? Love my One, but I hate having to do a workaround for something that works so easily on all of my other devices.
/rant
I am new here and not really sure if I am asking in the right area (so please don't yell at me!) I have a ZTE Savvy and I wanted to root it. I have looked everywhere online and can not find anything on it. I installed the Framaroot app but had no success.
I was wondering if anyone could try and find out how to root it this type of phone? or if anyone has had any luck? if you could get back to me and let me know that would be great! Thanks.
zte-savvy need help rooting.
help also please
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I am new here and not really sure if I am asking in the right area (so please don't yell at me!) I have a ZTE Savvy and I wanted to root it. I have looked everywhere online and can not find anything on it. I installed the Framaroot app but had no success.
I was wondering if anyone could try and find out how to root it this type of phone? or if anyone has had any luck? if you could get back to me and let me know that would be great! Thanks.
zte-savvy need help rooting.
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I am also in need of a guide to root this I have tried everything possible to get tethering to work on this while it is not rooted and nothing works I don't know what net10 verizon did but they got it blocked some how I have tried probably over a dozen diff apps and messing with many settings etc nothing works so if anyone can help out please do thanks so much
to root the zte savvy i just did download chains dd superuser then run cydia impactor it will fail use option bootloader phone will turn off and back on then run cydia impactor again and su will be in the system xbin of the phone
jbreezy2212 said:
to root the zte savvy i just did download chains dd superuser then run cydia impactor it will fail use option bootloader phone will turn off and back on then run cydia impactor again and su will be in the system xbin of the phone
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The provided instructions only provide a "TEMP" root. but hey, we are one step closer now.
When you reboot your ZTE Savvy you will lose root.
At least I can get rid of some bloatware.
Savvy temp root is a joke. Its a start but in to way did it help me. I can't get any of the bloat removed I maybe doing something wrong.
I lose root before reboot. Lasts about five minutes maybe longer. If I can't have full root to get fancy ROMs that is cool but would so live to remove some of the trash they install on here. Any help would be awesome.
A list of some of the apps that I can remove and how to do so would be super. I've tried es file to remove from system app folder won't allow me. Also tried titanium backup.
Titanium says it deleted but it is all still in app drawer just force closes the app I tried to deleted if I try to open it.
Then i lose root before I reboot. Once I reboot all the apps that I deleted come right back fully working. I'm stumped and hate the junk they put on here my phone says system memory is full and I have downloaded like 5 apps the rest is there trash.
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zombielion said:
Savvy temp root is a joke. Its a start but in to way did it help me. I can't get any of the bloat removed I maybe doing something wrong.
I lose root before reboot. Lasts about five minutes maybe longer. If I can't have full root to get fancy ROMs that is cool but would so live to remove some of the trash they install on here. Any help would be awesome.
A list of some of the apps that I can remove and how to do so would be super. I've tried es file to remove from system app folder won't allow me. Also tried titanium backup.
Titanium says it deleted but it is all still in app drawer just force closes the app I tried to deleted if I try to open it.
Then i lose root before I reboot. Once I reboot all the apps that I deleted come right back fully working. I'm stumped and hate the junk they put on here my phone says system memory is full and I have downloaded like 5 apps the rest is there trash.
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There are not even any roms available. not even clockwork mod recovery to install the roms. if you install an incompatible rom its likely it will brick your Savvy. Though I would like to remove the old zte launcher for the digital cookies stock jellybean launcher. it is much faster and makes the whole system faster considering this is a low end spec'd phone.
btw i replied to your message.
Check out this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/supersu-please-t3110954
I tried it and got temporary root on my Verizon Note Edge. I know it is temporary but at least it is root.
I do not have the developer version btw..
Did you use the Note 4 .img file?
sbrownla said:
Did you use the Note 4 .img file?
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I just followed the video that is posted in the OP and that gave me temporary root. I didn't use any .img files.
DV8 said:
I just followed the video that is posted in the OP and that gave me temporary root. I didn't use any .img files.
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Doesn't it say to use one of the downloadable boot img files from the linked site? It's a boot.img file.
Also what sorts of things have you tried so far with it?
sbrownla said:
Doesn't it say to use one of the downloadable boot img files from the linked site? It's a boot.img file.
Also what sorts of things have you tried so far with it?
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I have tried Root Explorer and it allows me to read and write to the SD card. I have Root Call blocker and that works as well, I have tried Xposed Framework and so far no go, it does a reboot and you will lose root. This is still a work in progress but it looks a lot more promising than a couple of months ago.
I did not use any img files due to mine being a note edge and I think those files are for those who have taken the lollipop upgrade on their Note 4's. Since we have not received the lollipop upgrade to our edge's yet you should be good to at least temporary root because it is only working on KitKat.
I was able to temp root with king root 4.0.1 apk ... and was able to remove bloatware files from: system/app and: system/priv-app but after reboot they are all back.
Update.... after temp rooting. . Install Titanium Backup and Freeze system apps will enable you to "turn off" apps that you otherwise wouldn't be able to disable through the stock app manager in settings menu.
See screenshot below. ...
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Screenshot of TouchWiz disabled because I use a different Home Launcher. And YES it keeps disabled through a reboot.
Was able to turn off The KNOX apps as well... seems to keep root longer without rebooting. HOWEVER root doesn't last forever.. meaning apps like Titanium Backup will lose root... and you will have to reboot and run King root again to get temp root to freeze more apps etc.
This is still a work in progress, hopefully the losing root problem will be fixed soon.
This is nice but after messing with it all week I gave up. I could easily get temp.root and get SU installed but you lose root after about an hour even if you touch nothing. You will also get random reboots a lot and then have to start over.
Mike02z said:
This is nice but after messing with it all week I gave up. I could easily get temp.root and get SU installed but you lose root after about an hour even if you touch nothing. You will also get random reboots a lot and then have to start over.
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If you install Titanium Backup and "freeze" all the Knox apps [see post 7, 8, & 9] you can keep root long enough to freeze all unwanted bloatware. That way you can at least "turn off" [disable] those apps from running in background etc. It's something more then we had.
Keep at it guys! I'll join when I get some time tomorrow and Monday
justjayhere said:
If you install Titanium Backup and "freeze" all the Knox apps [see post 7, 8, & 9] you can keep root long enough to freeze all unwanted bloatware. That way you can at least "turn off" [disable] those apps from running in background etc. It's something more then we had.
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Yup, this worked. All week I was trying to "remove" these applications via tibu but yesterday I just froze them. I still lost root but see everything I froze is still listed as "Turned off" in Application manager. That will do for now, Thanks!
when you temp root, use TiBu to "convert to user app" this should move all the files to the user apps directory instead of system apps then try to uninstall and see if they come back after reboot. Just a hunch but I can't try since I don't have the retail version.
NekoShinigami said:
when you temp root, use TiBu to "convert to user app" this should move all the files to the user apps directory instead of system apps then try to uninstall and see if they come back after reboot. Just a hunch but I can't try since I don't have the retail version.
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I do not see the option in Titanium Backup to ”convert to user app" .. Am I missing something?
justjayhere said:
I do not see the option in Titanium Backup to ”convert to user app" .. Am I missing something?
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You need to long press on the app. Towards the end of the setting that popup you should see the convert to user app setting.
Easiest way I found was to freeze all the apps you don't want, filter for frozen apps then go through the list converting them to user apps
Edit: this doesn't work. They will install themselves back after doing this.
I figured they would come back.. freezing app is as good as it gets for now.
long press or swipe right to get to the additional options. also thank you guys for confirming that for me. i wasnt for sure since I dont have the retail version to test out on.
also i think i remember reading in the note 4 forum that they were able to get it perma deleted by uninstalling all updates then uninstalling the app or something along those lines. I will go back and read it again to be sure of what i read, i may have misread.
I used this method to disable knox and bloatware on my Verizon Edge even without root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/disable-knox-ota-root-t2972263
As far as temp root is concerned using King root, I suppose while on a rooted state, one can make changes to the system such as:
1) Enabling 3rd party apps like ES File Explorer to write to SD card by modifying platform.xml as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524277
2) Enabling hidden menu (if this is important to you) by modifying /efs/carrier/HiddenMenu file.
Even if you lose root, the changes you made to these files should stick, correct?