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As a new user/owner of the Siemens SX56, I have quickly discovered the limitations of the units memory/storage capabilities.
While I may not be using the correct rhetoric (please correct me where necessary) I am hoping someone might be able to help me.
If I buy a 256MB SD Card, can I use it to as a place to install and run programs, or am I limited to using it for data storage only? Can it be recognized as MAIN MEMORY instead of simply a "storage card"?
Otherwise, what are my options to increase memory/storage?
Also, COSTCO has the 256MB SD Card available for $104 CDN (plus 7%GST and 8%PST), is that a good deal or should I look elsewhere?
Many thanks!
Guinness said:
If I buy a 256MB SD Card, can I use it to as a place to install and run programs, or am I limited to using it for data storage only? Can it be recognized as MAIN MEMORY instead of simply a "storage card"?
Otherwise, what are my options to increase memory/storage?
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Yes you can install and run programs from the SD card!
No the SD card will only be recognized as a Storage card!
Your other option is to send your unit in for a memory upgrade.
Visit:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/PPCPup.asp
HTH
Thanks for you reply Qman, it is really appreciated! Can you offer me some more detail though?
Qman said:
Yes you can install and run programs from the SD card!
No the SD card will only be recognized as a Storage card!
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Do I need to do anything differently when installing new pocket pc applications so that they are installed on the SD card?
Does the SX56 automatically add the new available memory to its configuration and then manage space for file storage and/or memory usage? Can I choose one or the other for storage of data files and/or applications?
Is there any difference between "Main" memory and "Storage Card" memory??? I initially thought there was a difference that needed to be considered, but now I'm not so sure. I kinda likened Main Memory to the RAM on a PC and the Storage Card to a mini "hard drive" ...which lead me to think that the Storage Card was used ONLY for the storage of data files. I guess I was wrong in my thinking?
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Also, COSTCO has the 256MB SD Card available for $104 CDN (plus 7%GST and 8%PST), is that a good deal or should I look elsewhere?
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the price you mentioned, in my opinion, is not a good deal. i was in hong kong and i was able to buy a 512 mb sd card for $114. you may need to search around sites for a more lucrative package.
cheers
robson
Guinness said:
Thanks for you reply Qman, it is really appreciated! Can you offer me some more detail though?
Qman said:
Yes you can install and run programs from the SD card!
No the SD card will only be recognized as a Storage card!
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Do I need to do anything differently when installing new pocket pc applications so that they are installed on the SD card?
Does the SX56 automatically add the new available memory to its configuration and then manage space for file storage and/or memory usage? Can I choose one or the other for storage of data files and/or applications?
Is there any difference between "Main" memory and "Storage Card" memory??? I initially thought there was a difference that needed to be considered, but now I'm not so sure. I kinda likened Main Memory to the RAM on a PC and the Storage Card to a mini "hard drive" ...which lead me to think that the Storage Card was used ONLY for the storage of data files. I guess I was wrong in my thinking?
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it is not true, that the SD-Card can be used to run programs. You can use the SD Card for your data and install programs to the sd Card. When you're running a program the internal memory of your pda will be used.
So you can install much more and bigger programs at your device, but the memory for running programms won't be changed. You see, SD Card is a little bit like a Hard Disc in your pc. You can install more programs and save more data, but you're still limited in the maximum amount of running programs.
You can install programs to your SD-Card via Active Sync. Normally youßre asked, if you want to install the software in the main memory. If you select no, you can choose between main memory and SD-Card.
HTH
Stefan
also the sd flash is a lot slower then internal ram
much like a harddisk is slower then ram in a computer
so if you could merge the sdram with the internal ram and access it as one pool it would be troublesome because the interal ram had to slow down to match the sdram or
you would need some asyncron access plan which would be pretty complex since you could be reading some data which were 1/2 on the slow sdram and 1/2 on the much faster internal ram
ok, and on reverse ...
have you come across any software that can not be installed on SD card and can not be run from SD card ??
regards,
monika
Yes there are some programs that won't run from the SD card. I can't remember which ones I've run across though. I almost always try to install on th esd card first. If the app won't run then I put it in main memory. Good luck - Jim
thanks for your response - good idea ....
try to install software on SD card first
regards,
monika
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I got my 1GB Sandisk today, very happy. Loaded loads of Mp3 and having fun.
Got my new Note, this is my first droid phone, and I got LOTS of questions. I currently have the i717 version, unrooted.
1) Is currently is any reliable way to install ICS on the i717?
2) How do I check if there were any previous kernel or ROM flashes?
3) Is there a reliable way to root the device WITHOUT increasing the counter (assuming it is currently at 0)?
4) How do I move installed apps, which are currently under "System Storage" to "USB storage"?
I can answer all of your questions very simply. Search and read.
yep all ur answers are here just gotta read,
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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funziebear said:
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
GalNote said:
Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
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There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
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There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
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Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
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Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
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Read this paragraph again.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
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^^ got it, thanks.
K I researched and read, I still cannot find out if I can safely root my Bell i717, without increasing the flash counters.
Also, it seems there is no ICS yet available for this device.
Can someone please chime in?
wow this thread cleared up a lot for me. Still got a few questions though...so when i go to settings and click on an app and click "move app to sd" it moves it to the "internal sd" which has about 12gb of space? so then what goes on the external sd card? is the storage on the SD card ONLY accessible when you plug it into a computer and put it in mass storage mode? I remember when I had my nexus one, moving apps to sd actually put it on the external sd card..
The note is not a DROID. Droid is a verizon marketing term.
You can reset your flash counter. So even if you increase it by flashing CWM or rooting then just reset it back to 0. That's what I did.
Once CWM is installed flash all the ROMs you want through CWM. Just back up nandroid first and you can always go back.
I use a 64GB microSD card and store nandroid backups, photos, videos, podcasts, etc.
The internal SD (USB Storage) is used for app data.
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Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
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Root ir phone throigh odin then go search dev thread for the rom u want read the requiements then flash they r all good
note @ 1.83
... You don't need root to flash a ROM.
Instead of rooting with Odin, just flash CWM with Odin then flash the ROM from there.
The only reason to root first, is to run titanium backup if you so desire
Just wondering if I should pick up a card beforehand or does the Evo 4G LTE come with one?
My phone did not come with an SD card. You'll have to buy one separately.
no sd card but that new 64gb card I put in sure is nice.
Short answer: NO. You will need to get yourself one. You can get a 64 GB microSD card that will fit perfectly and work.
Long answer: You don't really need one. Yes, it comes with 16GB of storage, which is partitioned into: about 2 GB for the system, about 2 GB for apps storage, and the rest (about 10 GB) is put into the "/sdcard" partition. It's not really an sdcard, but a fake sdcard. It looks like an SD card to Android. This is where you would put the regular stuff that you would put on a normal SD card. IF you put in your own microSD card, then it will be accessible via both paths "/sdcard2" or "/sdcard/ext_sd", as they both point to the same location. I have both my camera (and video) and music storage pointing to my "external" memory (all 64 GB). IF you do not put in your own memory card, then you can still access the internal storage over USB, but you will have to do so via MTP. Google that. Most modern PCs should have support in the OS.
So, in summary... relax. You don't need to get your own memory card right away. See first if you really need it.
no. no and no.
I know this issue has been covered many times on the forum but I couldn't find a proper way to solve it.
I am having a Galaxy S2 running official jelly bean 4.1.2.
I don't know why Samsung has partition the internal storage this bad :/
It only gives us 2 GB for installing apps from the play store and currently I'm running out of Internal storage because I keep a lot of apps on my phone. I can't even move any app (not even a single app) to USB Storage. I always get the error that "Unable to move app. Not enough storage space."
I got around 6-7 GB free in my USB Storage so there is a lot of space there.
Is there any way to increase the Internal storage (2 GB) to a bigger size 3 GB or 4 GB or a solution so that I can transfer the apps to the USB storage?
Thanks in advance.
Usb. Is were the Rom and kernel ie running system is. Sd card is were you keep apps and things and ext sd is well ext sd card. If you have 7gb free then you put them there. Why would you want to put them in Usb. ? Usb is for running system not for apps. Sd card is for that.
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andrewwright said:
Usb. Is were the Rom and kernel ie running system is. Sd card is were you keep apps and things and ext sd is well ext sd card. If you have 7gb free then you put them there. Why would you want to put them in Usb. ? Usb is for running system not for apps. Sd card is for that.
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Okay then What I meant is that how can I move the apps which are installed in my Internal storage(2GB) to the usb storage(or as u defined SD card) Since it always gives me the error "Unable to move app. Not enough storage space"
I dont have an external SD card plugged in my Galaxy S2. Just the internal 16 gigs. is all I have
What space is left on both pls. only part of the apps will be moved to Usb. Why do you want to fill up Usb??
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Okay then What I meant is that how can I move the apps which are installed in my Internal storage(2GB) to the usb storage(or as u defined SD card) Since it always gives me the error "Unable to move app. Not enough storage space"
I dont have an external SD card plugged in my Galaxy S2. Just the internal 16 gigs. is all I have
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On my phone, if apps are moved to sd they exist on the external SD card. Maybe that's why it says you don't have enough space, because you don't have an external sd card? I guess any small one would do, no need to splash out for a 64GB one...
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On my phone, if apps are moved to sd they exist on the external SD card. Maybe that's why it says you don't have enough space, because you don't have an external sd card? I guess any small one would do, no need to splash out for a 64GB one...
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I got your point mate. You meant that I must need to have a external micro SD card to move my apps?
And in this case I can't move them to my USB Storage?
One thing more, I could move my apps to usb storage when I was using Super Nexus 2.0 ROM..
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What space is left on both pls. only part of the apps will be moved to Usb. Why do you want to fill up Usb??
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The internal storage is almost full just some MB's left there out of 2GB. And the USB storage got enough 6GB-7GB left. I want to fill up the USB so that I can download more apps because at this moment,my internal memory is completely full and I cant download any app from the Play store so that's why I want to move them to the USB storage.
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I got your point mate. You meant that I must need to have a external micro SD card to move my apps?
And in this case I can't move them to my USB Storage?
One thing more, I could move my apps to usb storage when I was using Super Nexus 2.0 ROM..
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I just checked on my phone: with external sd card I can move apps to sd, without I get the message you mentioned. So either use an external sd card or a ROM that allows you to use the internal sd card.
Okay thanks for your help.
I guess I need to buy a 16 gb micro SD card. Can anyone tell me how much a good micro SD card costs? With a speed that won't be causing problems so that I can play games easily without affecting the speed.
Don't cheap out on them. Sandisk are best. 16gb £20-30
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andrewwright said:
Don't cheap out on them. Sandisk are best. 16gb £20-30
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I'll look forward to buy it. Thanks
Its worth the money mate. Glad you sorted it. can you add solved to thread title pls :thumbup:
storage space is running out
i am using jellybean 4.2.2 gti9100 nexus rom on my S2 shw m250k.....i have now shortage problem in my storage(rom 2GB).......but i cant understand the storage info.......(82.81MB+726MB+2.95MB is not equals to 1GB)... ...i have not so big apps in my phone.....only 90 system apps and small games....can anyone help
First of all, im using a 4.1.2 stock and my device is rooted
So i had an Sandisk 64 GB class 10 for some time which one day became a "read - only" card...
So afterwards i bought a Samsung 32 GB class 10 which I found out also had problems because i could put about 10GB of files and everything more that 10 GB turned into wierd folders that their name starts with "μ" and there where no actual content inside and i couldn't delete them.
So now i'm at my third try, again with a Samsung 32 GB class 10 which also has the same problem, only now i can write on it about 20 GB of data before files start to get curropted.
Just want to say i bought all 3 SD card from Ebay, and though i guess they might be fake (tons of bad luck), after searching the web I found out there are many GS3 users with the same problem...
So i just want to put an end for this question..
Is GS3 frying SD cards? is there something i can do to stop it from destroying SD cards? can i fix somehow the SD cards?
thanks alot!
Hi! when you are asking a question you should include details such as operating system(4.1.2 , 4.3, 4.4, stock, rooted and so on) and file system. I noticed while searching google that the majority of "s3 fried sd cards" so to speak are sandisk and in your case it seams that there is no such "limitation". Maybe if you give more details someone might be able to help.
vader20 said:
Hi! when you are asking a question you should include details such as operating system(4.1.2 , 4.3, 4.4, stock, rooted and so on) and file system. I noticed while searching google that the majority of "s3 fried sd cards" so to speak are sandisk and in your case it seams that there is no such "limitation". Maybe if you give more details someone might be able to help.
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Well, I edited my post.
you can see the first lines contains the detailes you described.
can't think of any other relevant details.
What type of file system do you have on sd card? is it fat32 or Ext4?
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What type of file system do you have on sd card? is it fat32 or Ext4?
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not sure. I formated it with my GS3 and the computer won't recognize it without reformating it.
Worst case scenario is your phone somehow corrupted the sd card and that is that. I had a similar problem with my usb flash drive which i used on-the-go and unmounted it before removing it but when it happened i didn't make a backup(as always) and got stuck with a nice keychain. If you have the possibility to format it under windows with a card reader and choose fat32 at least you have a working sd card, otherwise use your warranty for the sd card(if you have one) and always BACKUP.
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Worst case scenario is your phone somehow corrupted the sd card and that is that. I had a similar problem with my usb flash drive which i used on-the-go and unmounted it before removing it but when it happened i didn't make a backup(as always) and got stuck with a nice keychain. If you have the possibility to format it under windows with a card reader and choose fat32 at least you have a working sd card, otherwise use your warranty for the sd card(if you have one) and always BACKUP.
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but do you think that my device is malfunctuning in a way that will keep frying my SD cards..?
well since this is the second sd card i personally send it on warranty(as hard as it may be without the phone) because it seems that something is not right with the contacts of the card reader circuit board. I read somewhere that on some phones the card reader slot had some contacts partially detached and so the sd card kept getting corrupted. Search a bit on google about this issue and take into consideration using your phone's warranty. Best of luck!
That is a bit strange. Unless you're used to remove the sd card with the phone accesing to it (no safe removing) or removing the battery while the phone is running, that's absolutely not normal.
I have my 32GB sd since 2010 and I never had any problem. I formatted it this year because it had tons of useless data and I liked to have it clean.
Of course it's not from Ebay! That is bulls**t and use to fail suddenly.