Hi,
I have bough one HTC ThunderBolt Verizon in America,
I tried to insert my sim card without success, can I unlock it? or is it impossible at this moment?
BR
Zax
this post was a fail
the sim card in the phone is meant only for the 4g. the phone is only cdma, not gsm. you can't put the card in there and assume it's going to work.
The Thunderbolt isn't a GSM phone. It uses a sim card only on Verzion for 4G purposes. I doubt it would be useful to do any unlocks on it.
I think this thread is a fail.
I'm nearly certain that as of right now, the Thunderbolt will work on no other carrier but Verizon. MetroPCS flashing isn't really possible since the phone uses some of the new technology to activate itself, the old activation code doesn't work, I believe. And the voice technology is still CDMA, so even if the Verizon bands match up to a Euro/Canada carrier in the future, you'll have to wait for LTE to carry voice, which could still be quite some time.
My sim is 3g, and my operator are gsm/umts but 3G not 4G.
I cannot to use it? If I understand well it works only with operator 4G?
Thanks a lot
Z.
There is a solution to put it on metro and cricket.
Wow, how did you even find xda?
#EpicFail..
This thread is win.
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I own an HTC Thunderbolt, but I am forced to switch to AT&T. I am able to buy an unlock code for my phone, will I be able to unlock it and it run on AT&T? I would like it to run 3G or better. If you have any info, please let me know. THANKS!!
McNugget93 said:
I own an HTC Thunderbolt, but I am forced to switch to AT&T. I am able to buy an unlock code for my phone, will I be able to unlock it and it run on AT&T? I would like it to run 3G or better. If you have any info, please let me know. THANKS!!
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short answer: no
long answer: read the other posts in the thunderbolt forums for similar questions.
Side note: there are some verizon phones that are "world phones" that have sim cards in them. The droid 2 I think some of the blackberries do. I would return and get one if you can.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...etail&selectedPhoneId=5567&deviceCategoryId=1
the TBolt has a SIM card....
Verizon uses 700mhz and att doesnt. Not compatible
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Ferrari353 said:
the TBolt has a SIM card....
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different type of SIM card. Thunderbolt has one for 4g only. Verizon uses CDMA for 3g and LTE for 4g, and probably some other band for voice. ATT uses GSM for 3g and HSPA+ for 4g. So they are completely NOT compatible.
ATT will be eventually going to LTE, but they could be dicks about it and choose a different frequency of LTE than verizon to prevent people from switching networks (since there's more than one to pick from), thus making it incompatible still.
Currently, all voice is CDMA on verizon still and data is CDMA as mentioned if it's 3g and LTE if it's 4g (which is what the sim card uses as it is the next incarnation of GSM). Next year they will be transitioning to voice over LTE.
I've been doing some research and I haven't found any success stories for radio s=off on the Thunderbolt or anyone buying an unlock code. Most companies selling codes are shaky and typically don't end up providing a code.
I've unlocked a Mytouch 4G (for my dad) manually and got a code to unlock a HD2 (for my brother) from T-Mobile. Both phones are activated on AT&T and work but cannot get 3G. I tried swapping sims with the HD2 and Thunderbolt and neither phone would make calls. Apparently our sims wont work on a sim unlocked GSM phone so if the Thunderbolt was sim unlocked, would it work on a GSM network?
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well the thunderbolt is not a world phone... 2nd the sim card supplied by verizon is for
using the 4g LTE network only...
case in point you couldnt use any other sim card to use on other carriers...
but then again you might be able to unlock it but you would be giving up
4g LTE over 3g i dont see the logic in that...
I'm really just curious.
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It will never work, end of story.
I doubt there's a provider lock on the Thunderbolt. It's sort of non-standard, using CDMA for voice and LTE for data.
ATT/T-Mob are UMTS (GSM), Verizon is CDMA-2000/LTE. A phone from one side not working on the other has nothing to do with SIMs or SIM locking.
Even when ATT gets around to doing their LTE upgrade, a Thunderbolt would be unlikely to work at all on their network - the best hope might be for data only.
Also, to be clear, the Verizon card isn't really a SIM (although even Verizon calls it that), it's a UICC, with both USIM (for LTE) and CSIM (for CDMA) applications. It's unlikely to have a SIM application, since Verizon doesn't support GSM.
Some SIM adapter can hack the carrier information and make the phone believe that it is on another different network. Has anyone tried so far?
Can anyone confirm this?
I did look on amazon and found two (adapters) you place under the sim card.
I do not know if these two products really work, and you have to cut your sim in order for to fit. I would love to use my photon on tmobile.
Just search "isim" or "smartsim" on amazon. Those are the only two I found.
I just bought one from dealextreme for $3.48 with free shipping. Now I have my fingers crossed. Hope it will work.
If I am not mistaken this will SIM unlock your phone but not bypass the US GSM radio lock on the phone. To unlock the US GSM radio bands someone would have to rewrite the radio's like they did on the HTC TP2.
since the source code has been released, would it be possible now to rewrite the frequencies for domestic use?
I am still curious about the sim unlock if it will work.
For unblocked us gsm may need the atrix radio rom
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It's not a sim lock issue.
Some users have been digging into the phone via Radiocomm have actually discovered what appears to be carrier suppression code. Seeing how that it's a Radio issue vs a Android issue.... I'm not convinced this one will be cracked easily as I do not believe carriers or manufacturers are compelled to release Radio code
Just received it. The SIM unlock adapter didn't work for AT&T at least... Sad...
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It's not a sim lock issue.
Some users have been digging into the phone via Radiocomm have actually discovered what appears to be carrier suppression code. Seeing how that it's a Radio issue vs a Android issue.... I'm not convinced this one will be cracked easily as I do not believe carriers or manufacturers are compelled to release Radio code
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Can I use the GSM outside US?
I mean is it locked to other GSM carriers except att and tmo?
It's not locked at all. Only us gsm towers are blocked. Eg: you could use an att sim just fine if you were roaming in Canada.
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The phone is unlocked for roaming outside the us and works fine. i just returned from jamaica friday where my photon worked fine on their claro network. for internet you may need to manually set the settings but the phone worked great.
If the qualdcom processor on the EVO is ment to support LTE which in turn uses a sim card shouldn't that make the phone a world phone I know it is suppose to have an embeded sim. But my true question is will we be able to reporgram the sim once we get root or will write have to go with more of a hardware mod if we wish to make it a world phone.
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If the qualdcom processor on the EVO is ment to support LTE which in turn uses a sim card shouldn't that make the phone a world phone I know it is suppose to have an embeded sim. But my true question is will we be able to reporgram the sim once we get root or will write have to go with more of a hardware mod if we wish to make it a world phone.
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Sprint uses embedded LTE technology to my knowledge, so its not like on Verizon where there is an LTE sim card. Also, this phone is a CDMA phone, and therefore does not have a regular sim card slot (Like phones on ATT or TMo). No software modifications will change this, and I highly doubt that anyone could even attempt to make a hardware modification to make this phone a world phone. Also, and LTE sim card is not the same as a regular sim card, as they perform different actions (access to LTE and the rest of the network is seperate).
Yeah I was thinking that it does not have the slot the thing is that the processor does support gsm also I was kinda hopeing it was like the rezound it is cdma phone on Verizon. It was found out that just by removing verizons LTE sim card and adding a gsm one it allowed the phone to work as a gsm phone.
the evo lte does not have the GSM and HSPA+ radios to be a world phone
When I preordered, the rep told me it was a world phone. I didn't think she was right but I didn't say anything.
Yeah i read the same post on Engadget i think. What a bummer was hopping it was since it is rocking the same processor that the at&t one (correct me if im wrong). Plus like i also stated was hopping it was like the HTC rezound on Verizon that with a experiment it ended up working. O well .... still kinda wanna take it apart and try wouldn't be xda without some experimenting or moding.
My friend has a Droid bionic which wasn't supposed to have GSM support, but it did through some hacks on rootzwiki and using a T-Mobile sim card. I think that the s4 includes a GSM radio, so its probably possible at least if the sim card can be accessed. Lte is GSM based so it is likely that GSM support is there if software is modified like it was on the bionic.
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When I preordered, the rep told me it was a world phone. I didn't think she was right but I didn't say anything.
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Sure, you can use it anywhere in the world that has a compatible CDMA network.
Many identify world phone with GSM radios (which the Evo 4G LTE does not have), but CDMA (which it does have) does work well for roaming in Asia.
I've roamed with my Evo 4G across Japan, Korea, and China for both voice and data. There's a full list of countries with CDMA roaming on the Sprint website. As soon as you arrive in country (if roaming works), you receive a free text with the rates and instructions on how to make international calls.
Sorry for asking stupid question....
I did some research, but I still can't figure out why DNA can't uses other CDMA network.
Is it the problem if radio???
According what I see, DNA is able to unlock bootloader, s-off, root.
What stuff should I waiting for? Radio?
Your answer will help me know what kind of threads I should pay attention to. Thanks a LOT in advanced!
BTW, I am planning use DNA in Taiwan with a CDMA network provider.
I had checked the hardware is fitted to my network (CDMA2000 800Mhz). Thanks for all concerned!
siekaiser said:
Sorry for asking stupid question....
I did some research, but I still can't figure out why DNA can't uses other CDMA network.
Is it the problem if radio???
According what I see, DNA is able to unlock bootloader, s-off, root.
What stuff should I waiting for? Radio?
Your answer will help me know what kind of threads I should pay attention to. Thanks a LOT in advanced!
BTW, I am planning use DNA in Taiwan with a CDMA network provider.
I had checked the hardware is fitted to my network (CDMA2000 800Mhz). Thanks for all concerned!
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Hi,
First of all, you must understand that GSM & CDMA are dissimilar technologies, whereas with GSM you can easily swap between carriers so long as they have the same/supported radio frequencies and your phone is sim-unlocked, this is not possible with CDMA. CDMA devices do not use a sim card to retain your account information or activation abilities. When it comes to CDMA (from my understanding) the ESN is key, the ESN must be added to your networks (for lack of a better term at the moment) ESN database. In the United States, most CDMA carriers will not add ESN's of other carriers phones to their network, your results may be different, because of your location. If your carrier were to allow or be willing to add the ESN of the DNA you obtain to their database than there is a possibility that it may work. (I am unsure if that can just be done or if it would have to be removed from Verizon's network & so forth, because I've never personally had to do such a thing)
There is a second problem though, the LTE radio / sim card interface. Because of the way these phones work on Verizon with LTE, I am unsure if you could even activate it, because it looks like the LTE sim is needed to authenticate your account to the carrier like a regular GSM phone. I have no idea how you would activate this phone without LTE / GSM on your carrier, even with the CDMA ESN added. It seems like it would be a double edged sword, but I could be wrong in this respect.
Also at this current time, this phone has root, and an unlocked bootloader through HTCDev, but is still **S-ON**.
Though none of those things have to do with you being able to use this phone on your carrier.
If your carrier was GSM I would say go for it because this is a GSM Global phone as well, but because its CDMA that you need I really incredibly doubt you'll be able to use this phone, but I may be wrong, but until someone else states otherwise I would look for a different phone.
Hope this Helps!
I am also interested in it. How can we check it out? I should go to my CDMA carrier and ask to activate my ESN?
Where can i find ESN? In Settings-About there is only MEID, IMEI, Phone serial number and IMSIAdded
I work for a CDMA carrier in the USA and with lte on the phones now, they truly act as gsm phones. If your CDMA carrier has lte then they can give you a sim and it will activate your DNA. However, if they only operate on 2g/3g then the post above me is correct with the ESN database and will USUALLY not activate the phone (in store sales reps usually don't even have the ability). Even if they have lte, activating another carrier's phone is not in the best interest of the sales Rep and they usually won't.
YMMV
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kyleco said:
I work for a CDMA carrier in the USA and with lte on the phones now, they truly act as gsm phones. If your CDMA carrier has lte then they can give you a sim and it will activate your DNA. However, if they only operate on 2g/3g then the post above me is correct with the ESN database and will USUALLY not activate the phone (in store sales reps usually don't even have the ability). Even if they have lte, activating another carrier's phone is not in the best interest of the sales Rep and they usually won't.
YMMV
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I should mentions that we don't have LTE in Taiwan so far.
My carrier provides CDMA2000 1xEV-DO rev.B (I guess it is)
Is it operate as LTE OR 2G/3G you mentioned?
siekaiser said:
I should mentions that we don't have LTE in Taiwan so far.
My carrier provides CDMA2000 1xEV-DO rev.B (I guess it is)
Is it operate as LTE OR 2G/3G you mentioned?
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From my experience, they will not be able to activate it if they do not have lte, as they would need to have a settings file made for that phone to get it to work on their network. Nevers hurts to call and ask though.
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Hi,i am from Austria,i have a Droid Dna by Verizon and the Phone works fine here in Austria, 2G and 3G/HSDPA