How come the EVO 3D only has 1 gig of internal storage? I'm really wanting this phone this worries me. My Asus Transformer has 32 gigs of internal storage and with all the apps and everything I have on it, I'm well above 18 gigs used. And that's not including movies (stored on MicroSD).
So with that said, with 1 gig of internal storage, this device is VERY limited to how many programs you can load onto it right?
And I know there is App2SD but not all apps are compatible doing that. How do you guys fare with such limited internal storage?
Even on the OGVO I never had issues, but then again, I don't download the entire market.
When they start releasing roms I'm sure it will free up a couple more gb of internal storage BC were suppose to have 4. I think but I'm not sure a lot of rom was used for sense and the security they used to lock the phone.
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No problems here. I haunt even used a third.. there is no need to have hundreds of apps..
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* Pre-Honeycomb Android versions have a space limitation on installed apps.
* Froyo and Gingerbread grants the ability to move applicable apps to external media (microSD).
* Honeycomb takes advantage of all available space for application installation while removing the ability to move apps to external media.
ThaiM said:
How come the EVO 3D only has 1 gig of internal storage? I'm really wanting this phone this worries me. My Asus Transformer has 32 gigs of internal storage and with all the apps and everything I have on it, I'm well above 18 gigs used. And that's not including movies (stored on MicroSD).
So with that said, with 1 gig of internal storage, this device is VERY limited to how many programs you can load onto it right?
And I know there is App2SD but not all apps are compatible doing that. How do you guys fare with such limited internal storage?
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You do realize that you are confusing the storage mediums, right? The 32gb of storage on your transformer is the same as the 8gb of storage on the SD card that comes with the Evo 3D. You can always install a 32gb card if you want. The Asus only has 1gb of "internal storage." in the way you are lookig at this.
You really are not going to find many phones with more internal storage unless they are sealed and have no MicroSD slot (aka iPhone).
Well I was really worried to owned a EVO and only had like 400 mb left. And the Thunderbird like 2.5 gb free (out of the 8gb internal that they say it has) anyways most apps over 10mb will let you moved to SD card , I download a lot apps and games are the only ones with the big space , I was amazed the most 10 mb + in iPhone were only like 3mb in Android, so don't worry you'll be ok
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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You do realize that you are confusing the storage mediums, right? The 32gb of storage on your transformer is the same as the 8gb of storage on the SD card that comes with the Evo 3D. You can always install a 32gb card if you want. The Asus only has 1gb of "internal storage." in the way you are lookig at this.
You really are not going to find many phones with more internal storage unless they are sealed and have no MicroSD slot (aka iPhone).
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Isn't the 16/32GB on the transformer internal (with the ability to add up to another 32GB via microSD)? (I'm not sure, hence the question)
Dude 1GB is like a godsend for me. My OGVO had >300MB when it was bone stock, I'm very thankful for my 1GB and you should be too. But I also try not to load up my phones with bull**** I never use and usually have like 2-8 apps downloaded, max. I'd just get a bigger SD card if it bothers you that much, 32 gigs is like $40.
A lot of the 4gb is the ROM and security features. Once we can install custom ROMs we will get a couple gigs back. I don't know why I just said that. A previous poster said that. LOL I fail at forums. ;P
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Dude 1GB is like a godsend for me. My OGVO had >300MB when it was bone stock, I'm very thankful for my 1GB and you should be too. But I also try not to load up my phones with bull**** I never use and usually have like 2-8 apps downloaded, max. I'd just get a bigger SD card if it bothers you that much, 32 gigs is like $40.
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+1 on this.
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Isn't the 16/32GB on the transformer internal (with the ability to add up to another 32GB via microSD)? (I'm not sure, hence the question)
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It's internal in the sense that it is built inside the unit, but its more like a SSD setup. Another way to think about it is like the 16/32 you are talking about is a MicroSD and you can add a second MicroSD. I mean it's not, but for conceptual reasons, that is one way to understand it.
You are correct....however...this 1g is for sense...apps and memory management file and the 3vo has plenty unless you are going to load 600+ apps SD another user here does...600 hundred...my god...
I was a bit concerned at first coming from a Droid x. That thing was the king of space when it came out. I think apps to SD was just coming out then. Now almost all apps are s2d. I've got 50+ apps using 300mb on phone, a couple gigs app usage on SD. I don't think its an issue any more.
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I'm trying to make sense of the real difference between the EVO3D's 4GB of internal memory and the Photon/Within's supposed 16+ GB of internal memory.
Is this difference really something to be concerned/though about?
The way I see it, we have been running with 1 GB in most phones in recent history, and most of us just touch the limits of the memory with apps, etc. With the extra headroom of 4GB, I'm not sure there is too much concern for running out of app space (crosses fingers).
So, what is the rest of the memory for? Media? I understand that the internal memory might be faster, but SD cards have already been shown to be fast enough for most purposes (and I believe the Green Hornet comes on the SD card). IIRC, it was quite an anomaly to have the Nexus S store media and other files on the internal memory when it came out.
So, does the 4 GB concern, given the ability to get 32 GB on SD? Or is it a real advantage for the competitors?
It might have something to do with recording in 1080p or 3d . The internal would be faster to record to . Just my thought
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Anytime you write/read to internal its always going to be faster than reading from a SD card. This also holds true with your desktop. Reading from your DDR2/3 Memory will always be faster than reading from your SSD/HDD. I think this is where the above poster actually gives some credibility about his claims.
I don't see the big deal. 4Gb is a decent amount of internal. How many people are going to actually need 16gb of internal space? I'm sure someone will reply and tell me they need it for this and this but I'm sure a large percent will do just fine with 4gb. People do just fine with 1gb.
If you download a lot of games then yes go with the SGS or photon.
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If you download a lot of games then yes go with the SGS or photon.
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My thoughts as well. Funny though, isn't Qualcomm (HTC's chip provider) the one thats going to do a gaming pack?
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If you download a lot of games then yes go with the SGS or photon.
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even with 4-8 times the storage on those phones, they are only using 2x as much for app installation, correct? 1GB v 2GB?
I would rather have a 4gb internal and my 16gb class10 sd card then to have 10gn internal w/ no way to use a sd card with it, but then again I keep my 8gb card that came with the evo set up fully as a back-up card, i have a nandroid back-up and main files i use on my sd card set up on my 8gb cardd so all i have to do it restore and go if anything happens and I have to get a new phone.
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If you download a lot of games then yes go with the SGS or photon.
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If you are looking for a phone to do gaming on you should chose Samsung Within due to terga2 over a phone with larger internal storage
jessejames111981 said:
If you are looking for a phone to do gaming on you should chose Samsung Within due to terga2 over a phone with larger internal storage
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It is not confirmed that the Within will have Tegra2, actually, it is highly likely it will have Exynos. The Photon is confirmed to have Tegra2. Also, the SGS2 is likely to have the highest amount of internal storage, with the Photon having the second largest.
I would have loved the 3D to have more internal storage but coming from the 4G it is still a considerable upgrade. Personally I never had an issue with the 1GB on the 4G so I don't consider the 3D's 4GB a liability.
The lower amount of storage on the 3D was probably a way to keep the final cost down given the other specs to make it affordable and I'm fine with that; $199 s a great price for what you get!
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I would have loved the 3D to have more internal storage but coming from the 4G it is still a considerable upgrade. Personally I never had an issue with the 1GB on the 4G so I don't consider the 3D's 4GB a liability.
The lower amount of storage on the 3D was probably a way to keep the final cost down given the other specs to make it affordable and I'm fine with that; $199 s a great price for what you get!
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I agree we are getting a lot of phone for the money..I thought the same thing with the 4g..now we get a processor that more than twice as fast and four times the internal memory..I don't use a lot of games but my SD card has atleast 10 Roms and 4 full nandroid backups andive never run out of memory..mof I have at least 2 gb left..and that's with stock sd
I suspect there will be far less than 4g actually usable..
I got a low memory error one time so I went thru and unistalled a bunch of stuff I never used. No problem since. And I could probably delete even more stuff.
even 4GB's isn't a whole lot, I always end up with the issue of running out of space on my evo, I switch roms constantly, so Apps to sd doesn't really work for me, I'm hoping I can get away with tons of games installed on just 4gbs.
4GB's of internal on the 3D will be plenty for me. Only recently have I started to have issues with running out of space on the EVO. Ended up just moving a bunch of apps to SD card and all is fine again.
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even 4GB's isn't a whole lot, I always end up with the issue of running out of space on my evo, I switch roms constantly, so Apps to sd doesn't really work for me, I'm hoping I can get away with tons of games installed on just 4gbs.
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the built in a2sd sucks for this, but the a2sd (like DarkTremmors) that allot of the guys put into their roms works very well with this. I got a 4gd ext3 partition on my sd for this and i NEVER run out of space to install apps (in fact i dont even use 1gb up w/ close to 200 apps)
I'm not going to complain as it is a 16-fold increase of storage for me. Mmm... increased internal storage...
Add my 16 gig sd card and I think I'm golden.
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more then enough. This is set aside for apps and OS I believe, and the photon will be the same. The internal space will be partitioned probably for apps and then most of it for storage.
4gb internal is more then enough.
I can see large storage making sense on devices like the nexus s 4g and iPhone because you have no option for an external form of storage but 16/32gb of storage on a device with a micro sd slot is a bit much. I'm not saying they shouldn't make phones with that much, the more the better but I just don't think you need that much. I think 4gb is enough to last us until we upgrade next year.
For the people who plan on having this phone for a second year the internal storage may become an issue in 12-18 months. Next years gen of phones will bring bigger apps, bigger files.
Im quite new to htc and im coming from a samsung infuse that has 16gb internal memory. is it normal that my sd card is where everything gets stored? It seems that since ive been using the evo3d the amount of space keeps getting smaller and smaller. I tried to delete htc temp files (not really understanding what that is) and its cleared about 3.9 gb but my music files are gone now..im using an 8gb memory card. is that enough for an htc??
go into the settings > applications and throw everything to the sd card. typically they install to internal and if written to move them, you can put them on sd. 3D isnt too bad with space, but the OG EVO was bad and would constantly fill up.
That's the thing I don't want clutter in my sd card
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It works almost the same.as your old phone. U never had 16gbs storage internal, u orob had like 14 gb and 2 was used for apps and things. The left over memory works the same as a memory card. I think this is how it works out anyway.
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yeh i know that the internal memory wasn't a full 16gb it was taken up by the android/samsung stuff. but then again I have another 14gb to do wtvr i want with plus my sd card which wasn't cluttered. I guess I just need to upgrade my sd card.
Any Idea why all my music was wiped? Do the htc temp files include my music?
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Im quite new to htc and im coming from a samsung infuse that has 16gb internal memory. is it normal that my sd card is where everything gets stored? It seems that since ive been using the evo3d the amount of space keeps getting smaller and smaller. I tried to delete htc temp files (not really understanding what that is) and its cleared about 3.9 gb but my music files are gone now..im using an 8gb memory card. is that enough for an htc??
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I'm curious why you would delete files without understanding what they are.
I apologize in advance if this topic has been covered already. Having said that, is there any way to increase the device memory on the i777? 2gb isn't enough for my needs and I was hoping someone has figured out how to increase it. I'd be happy with 4gb.
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It has 16gb.....
It comes with 16gb internal sd card and an external sd card slot that supports up to 32 gigs. Push menu then settings then storage and it will tell you your free space look at the picture i attached the usb storage is the internal sd card
First 2gigs are for your system. ROM etc. Nothing should be filling that up, unless something is wrong.
The other 12gigs are for anything else you install. Apps/Pictures/Backups. If those 12 gigs run out, then you buy a MicroSD card.
I know this is a super old thread but just had a couple real easy questions...
Is it normal for apps to save files both to my phone memory and SD card (i have not downloaded any apps to do this)?
And second, Where does the device memory (which I believe is the 2 gig the original poster was talking about) come into play? I mean does it store the files their for quick access?
Since the evo lte has 16gb internal and also supports SD cards, what gets stored where? I have been trying to figure this out all morning and it's driving me crazy haha. Can you store files on the internal like an sdcard? And if you had an sdcard how would you choose which storage to put stuff on?
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Since the evo lte has 16gb internal and also supports SD cards, what gets stored where? I have been trying to figure this out all morning and it's driving me crazy haha. Can you store files on the internal like an sdcard? And if you had an sdcard how would you choose which storage to put stuff on?
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As the phone has yet to be released, no one can say for sure. It will likely be along the same lines as other HTC devices, though. In a pure stock setup, internal storage is used for system files (partitions & filesystem) and downloaded/installed apps, while external is used for pictures/videos and music, as well as whatever other files you'd put on an SD card.
I really dig the idea of having 16GB internal storage. It would, for all but extreme cases, eliminate the need for a2sd/dalvik2sd and would increase the life of our sd cards (no swap, thrashing, etc.).
I know its hard to know since its not out yet but that's what I was thinking also. I just couldn't justify the need for 16gb (minus how ever much is reserved for the system/rom) for apps since I have a 512mb sd-ext that I can't even fill haha. Guess we'll see.
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I'm sure we'll be able to bend the phone to our will and figure out some way to utilize the internal storage for whatever we want. It may well be that an SD card is not needed for file storage, as well.
Both internal and external SD work like an SD. The internal will have probably 2gb for apps and 14gb for whatever, pics, vids, music, downloads etc. And you can use a file explorer to move stuff between internal and external SD. Pretty sure its not device specific but the way Android itself is designed to use the storage.
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Both internal and external SD work like an SD. The internal will have probably 2gb for apps and 14gb for whatever, pics, vids, music, downloads etc. And you can use a file explorer to move stuff between internal and external SD. Pretty sure its not device specific but the way Android itself is designed to use the storage.
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I will assume this is correct as well as my HTC Rezound has this setup. The Rezound has 2 16GB SD cards (one internal, one removable external) The internal has about 2.5gb for apps and the rest is internal phone storage while the external 16gb is available for anything else.
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I will assume this is correct as well as my HTC Rezound has this setup. The Rezound has 2 16GB SD cards (one internal, one removable external) The internal has about 2.5gb for apps and the rest is internal phone storage while the external 16gb is available for anything else.
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That's how every android device I've used with internal storage is set up, they partition off a section for apps and the rest is storage just like an SD card you can even nandroid and flash from the internal and is labeled as SDcard in the file directory while the removable is labeled as external_SD, and it is the same across all manufacturers.
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Don't forget we get another 25 gig of dropbox storage for auto backups Damn this phone is awesome
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What's the expected transfer speed for EVO LTE internal mem vs. Class 10 ext?
Cannot wait till mid May for the release of this BEAST, hands down the BEST Evo released! I was thinking about getting the Nexus instead but than it wouldnt be too much of a difference since I am coming off the Epic touch 4G. Besides I miss the built quality of HTC, yes Samsung has beautiful screens and gorgeous cameras, but I think this Evo clears those issues for me.
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What's the expected transfer speed for EVO LTE internal mem vs. Class 10 ext?
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The transfer on my et4g is 80mb/s read and 60mb/s write
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I have the HTC Jetstream tablet, which as the same set up.
Internal is used for downloads and apps.
External is used for whatever you put on it manually.
Once you open the camera app, it asks you if you want to save images on the internal or external memory. Select external because in the case of a wipe or crash, you still got your files on the external.
My external sd card contains only music, video, document, and image files.
The internal card is pretty clean and unused.
As for a phone, it'd be the same set up for me.
I wish the external SD card would be seen as \sdcard by the OS.
Not too many apps let you choose the directory of the files, so only pics and videos end up on my external card.
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Once you open the camera app, it asks you if you want to save images on the internal or external memory. Select external because in the case of a wipe or crash, you still got your files on the external.
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that makes me wonder if the external sdcard will keep up with the 1080p videos and the rapid 4 pics/sec camera...should be interesting
Rodderik said:
that makes me wonder if the external sdcard will keep up with the 1080p videos and the rapid 4 pics/sec camera...should be interesting
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That is a very valid point. And also not an issue that was a question with the Jetstream since it does not have the same imagechip technology that the LTEVO boasts.
Hmmm...
typhoonikan said:
That is a very valid point. And also not an issue that was a question with the Jetstream since it does not have the same imagechip technology that the LTEVO boasts.
Hmmm...
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It all depends on the class of your SD card. A higher class card will have no problems. Like mine, I have a 16gig class 10 card that writes HD videos in 720p beautifully, so I imagine 1080p will be similar for me. That's actually one of the reasons I got a class so high. I noticed that my videos on my OG Incredible were choppy and not very clear on the class 2 card it came with, so I upgraded.
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It all depends on the class of your SD card. A higher class card will have no problems. Like mine, I have a 16gig class 10 card that writes HD videos in 720p beautifully, so I imagine 1080p will be similar for me. That's actually one of the reasons I got a class so high. I noticed that my videos on my OG Incredible were choppy and not very clear on the class 2 card it came with, so I upgraded.
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Hey, you're coming over from Verizon I see? That's cool - what brought you to Sprint? Just the phone?
It seems to me that (from a distance) Verizon is getting the short end of the stick on phones these days. I always used to think that they always got the best ones, and now recently I've seen their selection trending downward. Am I just imagining things or did you feel that way too?
Even their version of the "One" series they are getting stinks (small screen, less impressive overall specs). And I heard in an article that it will be $299. Are you kidding me?
16 GB internal storage, raw hardware 12.7 GB internal storage, available to user
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Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE SD card confusion
Bought phone yesterday.
Moved 32GB SD card from EVO 3D (Gingerbread) to EVO LTE (ICS).
From ICS view, have "internal storage" and "phone storage". Don't see a way to move apps to SD card (which is not "phone storage"). SD card can be mounted/unmounted, so it's visible in some sense. Some apps, such as Amazon MP3 can access music on 32 GB SD card. Other apps don't seem to know it's there.
When USB cable is plugged from Windows computer to phone, Windows Explorer cannot see "phone storage", it only sees 32 GB SD card when phone connection is designated "disk drive mode".
There is HTC connect. I installed a couple of versions, but connection establishment fails when I try to connect via USB HTC connect.
Hence I cannot get to some phone data from my computer.
I would like to be able to tell phone to put app data on 32 GB SD card, but don't see a way yet.
Anyone have any answers?
Is it possible to fool the Amaze to show the SD card as the internal storage and use it as internal storage? What about the 14GB internal SD to be in place of the 2GB internal storage and the SD card to be in place of the 14GB internal SD, so that removing the SD card doesn't impair the system.
I want 32 GB for games, not that crappy 2GB internal storage I have. There are apps that link the files to the internal storage, but I want a better solution (the one I listed above)
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Is it possible to fool the Amaze to show the SD card as the internal storage and use it as internal storage? What about the 14GB internal SD to be in place of the 2GB internal storage and the SD card to be in place of the 14GB internal SD, so that removing the SD card doesn't impair the system.
I want 32 GB for games, not that crappy 2GB internal storage I have. There are apps that link the files to the internal storage, but I want a better solution (the one I listed above)
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What you want is an apple device which has that cramped up memory which in my opinion sucks... See android have 2gb of internal storage for apps because our apps are created to be able to save most of the memory onto the SD Card... If u want 32gb of memory for games ill recommend to get an iPod touch that way u will save your phones battery... I only support ipods, iPhones are just ridiculous trying to keep up with android which is not working...
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You might as well just use apps2sd
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No wonder my sister's 16GB Iphone 4S get's slow when she put too many apps on her phone. She will be back with android soon
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What you want is an apple device which has that cramped up memory which in my opinion sucks... See android have 2gb of internal storage for apps because our apps are created to be able to save most of the memory onto the SD Card... If u want 32gb of memory for games ill recommend to get an iPod touch that way u will save your phones battery... I only support ipods, iPhones are just ridiculous trying to keep up with android which is not working...
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I don't like apple devices as iOS is a locked operating system. Its like living in a communist country. I want more space for gaming as I am a gamer. Someone modded the Note II to do that, so I was wondering for the Amaze. I have bought many games on Google Play and I, in no way, want to spend twice for the same game on the iPod, plus Apple overprice their ridiculous products (I know Samsung does so, too, but at least they give more freedom and features).
One 2 GB game like NOVA 3, Modern Combat 3, Amazing Spiderman, or Dark Knight Rises will fill it up, then you are left with insufficient space.
I have found an experimental fix as idk if removing the external sd would crash the system:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1874485
Not sure if this is what you're lookin for. But I've read THIS thread a while back. It's only for GameLoft games.
You won't be able to download it from the Play Store so you'll have to retrieve and install it manually but it still works.