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I've been using an x10i on at&t and thinking of changing to an x10a so I can get 3g access. the problem I have is that I've been using the 15$/month unlimited for non smartphones. I know someone with an x10a that had att detect that they used a smartphone, I think it was because it used hspa. I'm wondering, does anyone know how at&t detects non smartphones?
They know what kind of phone you have whether its a dumbphone or smartphone from its IMEI number.
All AT&T phones have their IMEI numbers registered in their database.
Phones that are NOT AT&T phones they are unable to find out what kind of phone it is because the IMEI isn't in their database unless the manufacturer for some reason decides to send them then IMEIs for all their non AT&T devices. Google did this with the first couple of Nexus One runs. That's why some N1s would register on AT&T and some wouldn't. Bastards...........
Find a non AT&T X10a (Does Telus or Rogers have the X10 ?) and you should be golden.
Unless S/E gave AT&T a listing of their IMEIs for non AT&T variants for some odd reason............
I can tell you how to edit the international mobile electronic identification number on your x10.. I can remember the exact path to it since my x10 is dead/bricked/ibrokeithalfafter it happened anyways,I guess pm me if you want it and when my father arrives back from his place of employment I will give you the path to freedom.. all you need is one cmd from the big blue term emul. (echo $value >/path/I/will/provide/asap I believe its illegal but idgaf , when mine showed up0000000000000 I was kinda scared due to the fact I could **** up my phone.. also ATT knows its a smartphone due to the fact that your tunneling through their work using an APN.. they called me actually rofl when I lost my sim.. took over my little bros sim card due to the fact that to get a new one you have to send them the 15 digit number and my sticker got ****ed on the phone.. but they actually left me 2 messages sounded like a sophisticated african american that said Did you know that your smartphone requires a data plan lilbro had no data lmao then sent a text too and then charged me for ****ing two 2GB data plans... lmao their ****ing assholes they could of just chosen the 4GB but anyways yeah ATT has their phones on lockdown.. unless you spend all your time trying to bypass ATTs rules all day and night like me.. I had Hspa before they released the ****.. I was locating towers in africa.. which blew my mind.. I didn't know ATT was over there.. I thought they just ****ed us, U.S. citizens over.. anyways pm me ill tell you a cpl ways to piss ATT off.. e.g. edit the apn setiings with their I.p addresses and use diff ports.. (download a pinger from the market then type in the url for their apn to access their ip addresses.. gd I miss my x10 att discontinued it I think btw)
edit:// btw why the **** would you want 3G instead of the big H... 3G can't even hit 700 kbps in my town which of course a map verifies theres not much 3G coverage in my town.. which is right by STL.... tmobile sounds like a quite accelerated network atm from present customers I've spoken too.. and US cellulars 3G is actually quite fast from what I've seen.. (their just releasing it in the saint louis metro east.. but my buddy can get evdo when he roams......lol?)
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I've been using an x10i on at&t and thinking of changing to an x10a so I can get 3g access. the problem I have is that I've been using the 15$/month unlimited for non smartphones. I know someone with an x10a that had att detect that they used a smartphone, I think it was because it used hspa. I'm wondering, does anyone know how at&t detects non smartphones?
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I know it's a little late, but I had the same plan you have when I was using the AT&T tilt and then the tilt2. I got the Tilt by upgrading my plan and found out later I had a "smartphone" exclusion on my account (that was when they weren't forcing people to upgrade to a smartphone plan). It basically meant I was allowed to have a smartphone on my account without having to get the smartphone plan. Now, I used that plan for a few years with the unlimited data before buying the Tilt2 and they never did anything. I bought the tilt2 on ebay and they still didn't do anything to my account while I was using that one. They do, however, state in their TOS that if they find you are using an "inappropriate" data plan for your device they can change your plan accordingly if they choose to. They never did on mine though. I didn't get the smartphone plan until I upgraded to the lg expo a while back, and had to get it to get the phone since it was through RadioShack. I was told I could have called and reverted it back, but I didn't get around to it and time ran out.
Like msgnyc said, they detect the phone based on the IMEI number. No sooner than you put your sim in your phone and sign in on the AT&T website, your new device will show up there. It's not like they instantly say "Woah! This person has a smartphone. We have to upgrade the data plan on the account right now!".
If you put your sim in a smartphone, as long as you don't go nuts on the data, you should be good sticking with the plan you have. (BTW l3as3ballel2 is a troll and I wouldn't listen to a thing this person posts)
Wao some of these things sound so illegal, like altering the serial no. (IMEI) of the phone to mimic detecting it like a non smartphone "awe"
Why go to such great extends to get in trouble even with law enforcement, just get an unlocked smartphone. I have a galaxy s2 and I'm hapily on the $15/mo Ulmt data plan but of course I had to lurchase the device at front.
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changing your IMEI is very illegal and such talk isn't allowed on XDA.
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Got a lot of conflicting info on this.
1.Are different sims given for smart vs dumbphones? 3G vs 4G? Etc
Ie: will a smartphone not access 4g on a GoPhone sim?
2.Can a Rep on the phone identify your phone by the imei?
Thank you for any enlightening!
I may be wrong but I think the gophone sim works differently than a regular sim, there are att sims that say 3g but they work just the same as the new sim cards att is using, as far as the rep being able to tell ur phone make and model by the imei that's a yes for sure, they can detect what phone you have without you giving them that info and slap the $25 2gb data plan on your account.
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To put it simply- if the network system knows that X phone has X IMEI or even model code it shows when it connects (I777 vs say I9100) and its endorsed by them, then they'll know what it is.
Do you want to know this to avoid paying ridiculous data fees? If so, get an international unlocked/unbranded phone that your carrier never had/in their system. I've been milking dumbell data rates on my Nokia E series phones for years now and not because I use the balls out of the data, but to have that unlimited/cheap peace of mind.
When I upgraded from my Captivate to the SGS2, the AT&T clerk said I needed the 4G sim card and installed one.
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When I upgraded from my Captivate to the SGS2, the AT&T clerk said I needed the 4G sim card and installed one.
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I received the same treatment. With my last five phones, I've only been able to swap out the SIM cards twice — once because I bought a phone on Craigslist.
Really? I'm still on my, what is it, 4-5 year old 3G sim and no problems whatsoever.
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Really? I'm still on my, what is it, 4-5 year old 3G sim and no problems whatsoever.
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I was on my old 3g Sim card as well but when i got the sgsii it wouldn't connect to the "phone" APN, i had to use the old "wap.cingular" APN. The old 3g Sims aren't provisioned on AT&T's network to access hspa.
Before getting a new Sim card, i would never get over 3Mbps down. Now i average 5 and on good days it'll peak to 7-10.
to answer the question about different Sim cards for smart phones or dumb phones; pretty sure they use the same card because when i went the other day to get a new Sim, the rep just grabbed one from a stack and activated it, there was only one stack. Also it would cost more and bee more confusing for them as company to do that.
And at&t can identify a phone over the network only if that phone is familiar to them. So if you bought an AT&T sgsii off craigslist/ebay/friend and plug in your Sim card, they'll be able to tell.
If you buy a phone that isn't sold/recognized by AT&T, most of the time they can't tell what the device.
A good check is after you put the Sim in your phone, wait a couple hours then log onto your account online and if it shows a picture of the phone your using, they can detect it.
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I have this as a gophone. They gave me a normal sim card not the go phone sim card. It has hspa + also.
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Well sim doesn't really determine what your plan allows you to do, so sims are dime a dozen. I may consider upgrading my sim if they'll be able to put my current number on a newer sim, else I'm not really concerned too much. (and, for your laughs, I'm still only using Edge to avoid having gutter battery).
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as far as the rep being able to tell ur phone make and model by the imei that's a yes for sure, they can detect what phone you have without you giving them that info and slap the $25 2gb data plan on your account.
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this is only partly true. IF you have a att phone they can detect what type of phone you have by your IMEI #. that number is cataloged in their systems however if you have a European phone or a unlocked phone from another carrier then no they cannot tell what phone you have.
as for sims there are 2 different types of sims (go phones I dont know) there is the regular sized sims and the micro sims. Micro's for att are used for iphone 4 and up and I believe they are the only phone for att that uses the micro sim. As for functionality of the sims no the old sims (3G) work with thier HSPA+ just the same.....
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When I upgraded from my Captivate to the SGS2, the AT&T clerk said I needed the 4G sim card and installed one.
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Same thing when I upgraded. But my sim was a few years old and pretty scratched up from being put in different phones so I figured even if it would work it was time to be replaced anyway.
When I bought the sgs2 the clerk was surprised I still had my Cingular Sim card and suggested I get the new one. I got to keep my Cingular relic.
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The only problem I've run into is my mms stopped working a few days after using the phone and I'm on a gophone account. My inspire works fine. Not sure if they ran an imei sweep and the sgii doesnt play nice with gophone accounts. They still had my imei as an old nokia flip phone. You don't have to have data on a gophone, but if you want internet you'll need to buy a gophone data package.
You mean you need an unlimited $50 type GoPhone account right? No one needs a data account above and beyond that.
I bought a cheap GoPhone $50 plan today...using that sim in my Note AI get tomorrow.
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The only problem I've run into is my mms stopped working a few days after using the phone and I'm on a gophone account. My inspire works fine. Not sure if they ran an imei sweep and the sgii doesnt play nice with gophone accounts. They still had my imei as an old nokia flip phone. You don't have to have data on a gophone, but if you want internet you'll need to buy a gophone data package.
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Which straight talk sim card can I use for the rezound?
can anyone help with this problem can't find answer on the internet anywhere?
Rezound sim card
I am assuming that you want to use it on ATT or T-mobile GSM network? Regardless, it will take either full size or micro. Verizon is the subsiding carrier, and they typically seem to sell it with the micro sim card (and it is what I have in mine) so I'm sure it will work. It should work with either though.
your rezound has the micro sim card?
never seen one that did...
not trying to bust your chops but my sim is easily 3 times the size of my sd card... the micro sim card thats in the razr is roughly the same size as my sd
Is it a Verizon 4g sim or gsm? No offense taken. Just trying to help out as I have been helped on here.
But the resound is able to use either size. I'll post a pic shortly.
Edit: posted pics. I had the same question when I got the phone, but they said it would work with either size. Surprisingly, I haven't had any issue with the micro. No unseating or anything.
any idea if one is better than the other?
i've never heard that rezounds could use the micros...
very interesting, sorry to have been incorrect above
i've seen about 7 or 8 rezounds, and they all have the bigger card, and we all suffer a weak 4g compared to other phones around here...
i wonder if i should try the micro sim, isnt it like a v2, or the next generation of 4g sims??
i think i'll start another thread to see if theres an advantage, but i'm gonna google around looking for more info on its ability to use both, i'm still in awe lol
Well, I have only had the micro, but I can tell you that this thing picks up 4g in usually 1-3 seconds after I turn on mobile network and it doesn't drop unless I tell it to (or if I am in the basement of a large 3 story concrete building at work). It maybe the ics firmware though. I know others have had problems with it, but it has improved my rezound in every way. The only reason I would even think about going back is to be able to use a GB kernel that could undervolt, but the hit I'd take on the web browsing speed just wouldn't be livable not that I have gotten used to the ice cream...
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Well, I have only had the micro, but I can tell you that this thing picks up 4g in usually 1-3 seconds after I turn on mobile network and it doesn't drop unless I tell it to (or if I am in the basement of a large 3 story concrete building at work). It maybe the ics firmware though. I know others have had problems with it, but it has improved my rezound in every way. The only reason I would even think about going back is to be able to use a GB kernel that could undervolt, but the hit I'd take on the web browsing speed just wouldn't be livable not that I have gotten used to the ice cream...
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Yea I've had way better connection with the ICS firmware then I did with GB.
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I just received my att sim card in the mail today and I can't get it to work I get sim card from uknown source error message. Are you sure I can activate simcard with this phone? I googled it and cant find this info but see advertisements for people to flash rezound to straight talk for $100. Please tell me you didn't tell me I could do this without auctually knowing what your talking about.
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I just received my att sim card in the mail today and I can't get it to work I get sim card from uknown source error message. Are you sure I can activate simcard with this phone? I googled it and cant find this info but see advertisements for people to flash rezound to straight talk for $100. Please tell me you didn't tell me I could do this without auctually knowing what your talking about.
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Why is it our responsibility if you ****ed up? The Rezound will work on GSM bands, but as of right now, it does not work fully. You should be able to make and receive calls, may or may not have data, and SMS does not work.
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Why is it our responsibility if you ****ed up? The Rezound will work on GSM bands, but as of right now, it does not work fully. You should be able to make and receive calls, may or may not have data, and SMS does not work.
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I'm just saying people shouldn't say something will work when they don't know what they're talking about.
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I'm just saying people shouldn't say something will work when they don't know what they're talking about.
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If you did some reading on these forums you'd know that there's a problem with GSM networks. Because a SIM fits into a slot doesn't mean it'll work...
As for flashing to Straight Talk, you shouldn't need to if you have a SIM. What the hell is Straight Talk anyway?
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If you did some reading on these forums you'd know that there's a problem with GSM networks. Because a SIM fits into a slot doesn't mean it'll work...
As for flashing to Straight Talk, you shouldn't need to if you have a SIM. What the hell is Straight Talk anyway?
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Pre pay that uses Verizon's network...
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Pre pay that uses Verizon's network...
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And att i believe
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So do I have any options like can I flash something to get it to work? I see people advertising flashing it to straight talk and it requires a sim card that has been used on verizon which I have any help would be very much appreciated I currently have no phone.
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So do I have any options like can I flash something to get it to work? I see people advertising flashing it to straight talk and it requires a sim card that has been used on verizon which I have any help would be very much appreciated I currently have no phone.
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Did you ever get this figured out. I know the t-mobile prepaid card works for me. I'm using Rezrom. I can't remember if it worked for stock or not. I'm thinking about getting a straight talk sim card just to play around with.
Around here straight talk uses Verizon towers. Anyone know how to flash this phone to straight talk? Or would it be ad simple as putting one of their sim cards in?
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Around here straight talk uses Verizon towers. Anyone know how to flash this phone to straight talk? Or would it be ad simple as putting one of their sim cards in?
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That's not how straight talk works. If you have Att in your area, straight talk will work. T-mobile and Att are the only networks that will work with the bring your own device plans. You have to get a specific phone to use the Verizon towers.
Straight talk does not have software for any phone other than the optimus they have on android. The tower type is based on the phone's letter. The 900g is att and the t is Verizon?
Edit: Cannot use a non-straight talk phone on straight talk. Even on gsm bands.
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You can use non straight talk phones on straight talk just not for Verizon. The rezound will probably work with the att straight talk sim. You might get data but not positive. T-Mobile straight talk sim will work as well but only for voice.
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after looking on the forums and a few other places and seeing that the razr should have gsm turned on if we were to find a way to unlock the gsm and put in say a strait talk micro sim card would it still continue to run cdma with 4g lte or would it just use the gsm networks that are around cause $45 for unlimted everything would be sweet. because of were i am strait talk uses vzw networks but i also know that their gsm phones use i think att's network. but if we could do this how many of you would dump your contracts and only pay $45
no body needs to lecture me about spelling or grammer i know it is my flaw and no reason to flame for it LOL
From what i undertsand it should work with out issues.but i believe u need to be on a ics leak to have it fully unlocked.in the ics leak they made it unlocked for global know and thats what my phone is set at.it will hse gsm frequency only since u wont be tied into verizon no longer....if im wrong someone plz correct but i believe im right...
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with the straight talk SIM card it would only work on GSM (from straight talk SIM page), yes in the past straight talk had phones that ran/run on verizons CDMA but those are being phased out and the SIM cards being sold now will only work with the GSM, I'm quite interested in this idea myself, I can't do it for more then a year and a half (not worth the cost to break the contract), so someone should be able to confirm this working before that time comes.
But it all depends on whether the razr gsm frequencies are in the same spectrum as AT&T or not, or possibly some other lockout, because in the news articles it seems to imply the global update GSM frequency won't work with AT&T for some reason and you need to be on AT&T GSM to use the straight talk SIM card.
But what would the possibility of getting them to work like the 4g devices on vzw cause I can take the sim out and place in other 4g phone and it works but strait GSM would be nice as well
Side note has any one figured out how to unlock the xt910 phones for different sim. Cards
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But what would the possibility of getting them to work like the 4g devices on vzw cause I can take the sim out and place in other 4g phone and it works but strait GSM would be nice as well
Side note has any one figured out how to unlock the xt910 phones for different sim. Cards
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from my understanding it won't, verizon and straight talk started limiting there interaction before LTE and the SIM cards they are selling now are LOCKED to AT&T GSM frequencies.
http://www.straighttalk.com/shopsims if you choose CDMA it says program not available, and from what I understand AT&T's 4G LTE will be on a different frequency spectrum (50 Megahertz higher IIRC) and so our verizon LTE radios will not be supported on that system.
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after looking on the forums and a few other places and seeing that the razr should have gsm turned on if we were to find a way to unlock the gsm and put in say a strait talk micro sim card would it still continue to run cdma with 4g lte or would it just use the gsm networks that are around cause $45 for unlimted everything would be sweet. because of were i am strait talk uses vzw networks but i also know that their gsm phones use i think att's network. but if we could do this how many of you would dump your contracts and only pay $45
no body needs to lecture me about spelling or grammer i know it is my flaw and no reason to flame for it LOL
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You could buy a GSM razr /maxx that comes sim unlocked and use it on straight talk
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Samsuck said:
You could buy a GSM razr /maxx that comes sim unlocked and use it on straight talk
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Not all of us have the money to buy a new phone
You can use RadioComm to unlock the CDMA/LTE Razr to work on AT&T and T-Mobile. There is a thread somewhere on XDA that shows how to do it. Then all you would have to do is pop in the Straight Talk SIM and edit the APN settings on the Razr to get data and MMS. IIRC, the Razr supports all the frequencies AT&T uses, including the ones used for HSPA+.
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I don't think Lte will work in straighttalk, would be nice but yes straight talk its phasing out devices that use Verizons frequencies.
droid razr maxx
So can anyone confirm that the droid razr maxx will work on straight talk at all with like att sim card? That would be great news because that phone has the best battery.
Straight Talk didn't work out so well for me...
This is what I have found out from talking to Motorola.
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola.
With the release of the Ice Cream Sandwich, the DROID RAZR MAXX can now support GSM. That means it can be used with any carrier's SIM card. But the phone needs to be unlocked to use it with a different carrier aside from Verizon.
In order to unlock the phone you will need the "subsidy" code. This is a code that is unique to your phone. The code is assigned by the original service provider so that you cannot take the phone to another carrier without their permission. The business (carrier) that the phone was originally manufactured for is the only one that will have this information.
You will need to talk to a technical support person at the company for which the phone was sold, for assistance. The technical support staff will probably need to know the IMEI number off of the phone, under the battery to assist you.
We hope that you find this information useful and we look forward to assisting you in the future.
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
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Maureen
ValtheBatman said:
This is what I have found out from talking to Motorola.
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola.
With the release of the Ice Cream Sandwich, the DROID RAZR MAXX can now support GSM. That means it can be used with any carrier's SIM card. But the phone needs to be unlocked to use it with a different carrier aside from Verizon.
In order to unlock the phone you will need the "subsidy" code. This is a code that is unique to your phone. The code is assigned by the original service provider so that you cannot take the phone to another carrier without their permission. The business (carrier) that the phone was originally manufactured for is the only one that will have this information.
You will need to talk to a technical support person at the company for which the phone was sold, for assistance. The technical support staff will probably need to know the IMEI number off of the phone, under the battery to assist you.
We hope that you find this information useful and we look forward to assisting you in the future.
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
Best Regards,
Maureen
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Unfortunatelly it does not work with AT&T or T-Mobile or Straight Talk service in United States. Droid Razr / Razr Max will only work with other GSM Cards outside the US Market. Please see the findings below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619563&page=30
talking w/ a geekI know that wooks for verizion
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So can anyone confirm that the droid razr maxx will work on straight talk at all with like at&t sim card? That would be great news because that phone has the best battery.
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I went to hin earlier this month (Feb, 13) He said yeah it can be done. especially if you click on GSM when you go to your settings where you can choose between global and LTE/CDMA mode. and try clicking on GSM/ UMTS, then you should lost you data and all your bars with a red line through it. If a box pops up saying this phone does not have a GSM carrier connection, or something like that, that's even better. Now since Verizon got rid of unlimited data, and also got fined over 1.2 billion data for deleting 7 3rd party adds for free hotspot, there are more and more hotspot apps popping up all the time. I highly recommend downloading Aptoid for free so you can download any paid app for free. I haven't come across a app it does not have and just downloaded a $29.99 app today. Anyways, he said there are way's to do this without unlocking though many Verizon techs might not do it for you or even tell you how to get the info. I recommend doing and checking out a few things first. If you still have unlimited data, just order the strait talk SIM card for now until either they get rid of unlimited data all together or you don't want to pay full price for a phone anymore. Here's what you need to check into. there are many other pte-paid providers out there. And you can order blank SIM cards from out of country. check out clear.com, thats $45 bucks a month for unlimited data at home or on the go. the devices cost anywhere from 24.99-100+, but the adverage one you need is around $50. If you can conect to your computer from your phone or tablet, there are ways for to remotely send your phone internet access from you PC to you phone or computer. look it up! I don't know hoe to do all this stuff my buddy does. I am just a business owner that has used 149GB on my unlimited data plan through Verizon since January 28th till February 15th, which is on the low side for me since I used 59GB's from January 29th to February 3rd. Whatever blocks come up, there will be a way around them. these companies rely on older people like my aunt who had unlimited data on her regular smart phone + her work phone then she was paying by the GB for her Ipad. All three with with her at all times I showed her how to be able to use all three through her regular phone, Via Hotspot w/ a free hotspot app. or Via Blu-tooth, and how to direct tether. she couldn't believe she was now able to save about $150 a month in about 25 mins of a little education. Also I said there will always be ways around whatever the cell companies do. I am not going to tell you the name of the company that goes live February 21st. but $40 a month, unlimited everything and all you have to do is to get one other person to do it with after you. plus you can use whatever phone you have now. if you get two people to sign up after you it is free, $20 for every person you sign up, $10 for every person they sign up $5 for the next, but it doesn't go any further than that, It hasn't even stated yet, but I signed up in November and signed up 13 people, some of them went nuts and got a lot of people, which only like 4 of them I know and the people the people They signed up signed up alot. now my first months paycheck along with my free unlimited data talk and text will be $3,130. why? because if I didn't sign up anyone my bill would be $40, I signed up 13 and the chain when on from there. less money for the people you didn't sign up but are linked to you from the ones you did. I just found out how much money I will be getting at the end of march. Now they are getting rid of free data. I am going to push this. and you can keep you first service plan if you don't get good reception for calls, just swich out the SIM cards. Look it up, it should be hard to find
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What I want to know is when If I did the following:
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I went to hin earlier this month (Feb, 13) He said yeah it can be done. especially if you click on GSM when you go to your settings where you can choose between global and LTE/CDMA mode. and try clicking on GSM/ UMTS, then you should lost you data and all your bars with a red line through it. If a box pops up saying this phone does not have a GSM carrier connection, or something like that, that's even better.
I got pop up window so what do I do now? I would really like to use my Droid Razor please help me:
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Okay so I found a nice new phone come into my hands from a craiglist deal, popped in sim card, everything worked great. Sometime over night my device had been blocked from network use. I understand AT&T now can blacklist a phones IMEI phone and block any network access onto AT&T's gsm network. My sim would no longer work in my older phone, so I called and got that fixed, but I now have a stupid nice phone that im using for a paper weight. Obviously the person who sold it to me either knew it was reported lost or stolen, or reported it after selling it to me, its whatever it happens right. I dont want to go on craigslist and rip someone else off, thats not fair and would make me a ****ty person.
So I still have the phone, I know ill never be able to change IMEIs even with samsung tools12.7, and I know ill never see AT&Ts network work on the phone. Now, I understand that t-mobile is also on the gsm network, and I know that t-mobile has the highest block/blacklist capability of all cellphone carriers, that will even block an IMEI just for a late payment. But does AT&T share the same IMEI block list as T-mobile? Would I be able to just root my phone, and unlock it for Tmobile use, get a tmobile sim card and go from there? Or since theyre both gsm is my IMEI gonna blocked from all gsm networks.
I just need a way to put this phone to use, I spend good money on it and would like it to work. Even if that means switching cell phone companies and starting up a new "go phone" like plan. If anyone with any helpful tips or any useful information could just throw me some of their time with a reply I would be so grateful.
iSmkGrnBud said:
Okay so I found a nice new phone come into my hands from a craiglist deal, popped in sim card, everything worked great. Sometime over night my device had been blocked from network use. I understand AT&T now can blacklist a phones IMEI phone and block any network access onto AT&T's gsm network. My sim would no longer work in my older phone, so I called and got that fixed, but I now have a stupid nice phone that im using for a paper weight. Obviously the person who sold it to me either knew it was reported lost or stolen, or reported it after selling it to me, its whatever it happens right. I dont want to go on craigslist and rip someone else off, thats not fair and would make me a ****ty person.
So I still have the phone, I know ill never be able to change IMEIs even with samsung tools12.7, and I know ill never see AT&Ts network work on the phone. Now, I understand that t-mobile is also on the gsm network, and I know that t-mobile has the highest block/blacklist capability of all cellphone carriers, that will even block an IMEI just for a late payment. But does AT&T share the same IMEI block list as T-mobile? Would I be able to just root my phone, and unlock it for Tmobile use, get a tmobile sim card and go from there? Or since theyre both gsm is my IMEI gonna blocked from all gsm networks.
I just need a way to put this phone to use, I spend good money on it and would like it to work. Even if that means switching cell phone companies and starting up a new "go phone" like plan. If anyone with any helpful tips or any useful information could just throw me some of their time with a reply I would be so grateful.
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Report the buyer to ATT and they can unblock the phone if you can prove you bought it from someone.
iSmkGrnBud said:
Okay so I found a nice new phone come into my hands from a craiglist deal, popped in sim card, everything worked great. Sometime over night my device had been blocked from network use. I understand AT&T now can blacklist a phones IMEI phone and block any network access onto AT&T's gsm network. My sim would no longer work in my older phone, so I called and got that fixed, but I now have a stupid nice phone that im using for a paper weight. Obviously the person who sold it to me either knew it was reported lost or stolen, or reported it after selling it to me, its whatever it happens right. I dont want to go on craigslist and rip someone else off, thats not fair and would make me a ****ty person.
So I still have the phone, I know ill never be able to change IMEIs even with samsung tools12.7, and I know ill never see AT&Ts network work on the phone. Now, I understand that t-mobile is also on the gsm network, and I know that t-mobile has the highest block/blacklist capability of all cellphone carriers, that will even block an IMEI just for a late payment. But does AT&T share the same IMEI block list as T-mobile? Would I be able to just root my phone, and unlock it for Tmobile use, get a tmobile sim card and go from there? Or since theyre both gsm is my IMEI gonna blocked from all gsm networks.
I just need a way to put this phone to use, I spend good money on it and would like it to work. Even if that means switching cell phone companies and starting up a new "go phone" like plan. If anyone with any helpful tips or any useful information could just throw me some of their time with a reply I would be so grateful.
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Sell it to me .. Hit.me with a pm if u
Interested
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I'd honestly like to keep it, can anyone verify if it will work with t mob
iSmkGrnBud said:
I'd honestly like to keep it, can anyone verify if it will work with t mob
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It will operate on TMo, but except in a very few areas where TMo uses the same 3G bands as ATT, you will only get edge data speeds.
Edit: once it's unlocked it will operate on TMo.
dandrumheller said:
It will operate on TMo, but except in a very few areas where TMo uses the same 3G bands as ATT, you will only get edge data speeds.
Edit: once it's unlocked it will operate on TMo.
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OK so normal SMS, calling, general networking would still be the same? Just I would get edge data instead of the 4g or 3g?
please note the blacklist will soon be shared with all carriers
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jthatch12 said:
please note the blacklist will soon be shared with all carriers
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Yup, T-Mobile and AT&T will be sharing their IMEI blacklists soon so it will only work on T-Mobile for a month before they start blocking it, too.
You can either use it as something other than a phone or sell it on eBay to someone who doesn't want t use it as a phone.
Or track the buyer and report it to ATT. They will remove it if you can provide proof.
I just feel sorry for the poor guy who had their phone stolen.
RojasTKD said:
I just feel sorry for the poor guy who had their phone stolen.
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If it was even stolen. I'm pretty sure they just sold it then reported it stolen so that they get cash and a free replacement from att.