[Q] To root or not to root - that is the question! - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

[Q] To root or not to root - that is the question! - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
PS: I have read that people cant use netflix app on TB - i downloaded it, and it works fine for me. i am stuck in 3g land until next winter, but i would think that 4g would rock... just FYI in case anyone cares.

good questions. i'd like to see these answered too

fxb141 said:
ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
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Welcome to the world of Android! We hope you enjoy your stay ^__^. While I don't have a TBolt myself, I think any user opinion is good. Phone's auto updating is rare, like extremely rare, but I have seen it on some of the lesser model phones. I don't think you need to worry about it though. The free hotspot app however may be noticed and tagged as a tether as big red gets their chubby fingers around the few apps they are missing.
To root or not to root, that is the question.....or is it! The answer is up to you. If your comfortable with it than root it! All rooting will do is give you superuser ability, and the ability to flash custom roms/kernels/mods. If you want to keep the stock rom, than all you need to do is flash and nothing more. Rooting your phone doesn't auto flash some random rom. Roms are typically not built with an auto updater, so you only need to reflash a rom if you want to change roms or update to the newest version. I would say I flash at least an image a day on my Dinc. Once your rooted, regardless of the rom, I would suggest downloading some backup software (Titanium Backup or it's like for TBolt) and of course a tethering app, whether you want wired or wireless is up to you. Once you root, you lose your connection to big red's update servers and so you never have to worry about an update that returns you to stock like you do with i<anything's>.
Happy flashing!

fxb141 said:
ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
PS: I have read that people cant use netflix app on TB - i downloaded it, and it works fine for me. i am stuck in 3g land until next winter, but i would think that 4g would rock... just FYI in case anyone cares.
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Tbolt just got netflix last week for stock users.
Even if you are not going to flash a custom ROM right now, I would root.
Reason being that rooting requires you to flash old firmware so your phone gets wiped. Better to do it now, then that way you can use apps like Titanium backup.

fxb141 said:
ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
PS: I have read that people cant use netflix app on TB - i downloaded it, and it works fine for me. i am stuck in 3g land until next winter, but i would think that 4g would rock... just FYI in case anyone cares.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there are OTA's that can't be rooted.
What rooting your phone will do is install a new stock ROM which means it will wipe your whole phone. From there you can flash up to anything you want. Don't do rooting the lazy way. Use the ADB process and do it right. If you have a problem along the way, you'll be very glad you did it that way because you'd end up getting into ADB to fix any problem anyhow. Plus, jcase and other at andirc.net are very helpful.

If you root you will end up with whatever ROM is used during the root process. If you go to the development threads and to the stickied rooting instructions it will show you what RUU is used for the rooting process.
If you havent updated your phone you might even find that the ROM you get after rooting might be a newer version of the one you are using. If you want to stick with that ROM you can and just debloat it yourself or find another debloated ROM out there.
Once rooted you can use it similar to how you used your stock phone with no extra maintenance steps needed. If you start flashing nightlies or alpha/beta ROMs then you will start needing to monitor your phone for behavioral problems more.
There are no OTA's that cant be rooted. When an OTA comes out and you are rooted you should wait on flashing it as you would loose root if you did but in just a few days the dev's will create a rooted version to flash. Those OTA's will then be started to be used as the base for new ROMs.

Root! Root! Root!
As far as requiring tinkering as has been mentioned just rooting alone won't change a whole lot for your regular experience. The fun comes in trying out new ROMs. Some of the ROMs out there are very stable and once installed shouldn't need a whole lot of tinkering either (unless you get the FLASH habit that so many seem to develop and decide to flash a new one every day *wink*).

I rooted and installed Thundersense 1.5 onto mine, it's pretty nice. While I am running into some problems with bluetooth audio, having root capability means I can actually tinker with the phone's settings to try to fix issues instead of waiting forever for Verizon/HTC to push out another update that may or may not resolve whatever issue I have.

Not rooting is like driving around in a sports car with a parachute tied to the back.

Just do it.

When you root following Jcases method in the dev section you end up with a bone stock 1.13.605.7 with root. You might still get prompted for updates if you stay on the stock build but DO NOT ACCEPT if rooted. It will just cause problems and you might lose root or worse. I havent heard of Thunderbolts updating themselves but I have heard of Evos, I belive, that did. (according to users posts) So you never know but I belive something to do with Clockwork Mod Recovery(A custom recovery for android that you install after rooting.) will cause the update to fail anyway. As I understand it right now all OTAs can be rooted BUT the Gingerbread update will apparently close all known exploits to get root when it is released. There will always be rooted versions of the stock OTAs posted in the dev section you can flash if you want the newest updates and to be rooted. Of course there are lots of custom ROMs for the Thunderbolt to try out that are fast and stable. So I say root. It takes some reading and learning if you are new to it but its will worth it.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt

rooted and reloaded software
Thanks all for your advice! I successfully rooted my TB and it only took a few minutes to reload my apps and get it into working order. netflix is jumpy now, but could be the connection - going to mess with that some. not a big loss anyway - more of a 'wow, thats cool' than useful.
appbrain and HTC Sync with outlook contacts worked great for quick 'restore'
another question though - i am trying to remove the bloat and things like vcast and vznav will not let me uninstall. what is the best way to do this? i know i am rooted - barnicle works and has superuser access.
also, any good cooked sense roms that someone can recommend? not looking for one that constantly needs attention, just some cool things like cpu under/over clocking ability, and if SOMEONE would get a ford sync app that i could use voice command to text over sync - that would rock too!

Synergy ROM is my ROM of choice. It's based on the newest GB leak for the Tbolt, and has Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features, so I find it less laggy than full on Sense 3.0 ROMs, and Ziggy's kernel (included in the ROM) works great with no SetCPU needed. It's worth a try. You can find a link to the download in my sig.
Happy flashing!

that's awesome. i was think this very thing. I'm sold, I'm rooting.

orkillakilla said:
Synergy ROM is my ROM of choice. It's based on the newest GB leak for the Tbolt, and has Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features, so I find it less laggy than full on Sense 3.0 ROMs, and Ziggy's kernel (included in the ROM) works great with no SetCPU needed. It's worth a try. You can find a link to the download in my sig.
Happy flashing!
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Thanks, I would probably try this ROM - Is there anything i would need to change on my stock everything, no updates, no frills TB - like, will i have to update the radio before flashing?

I must say, i love the synergy rom! it seems fast and really rocks! I did have to update my stock base version radio MR1 to MR2.5 so i had service. flashing went great. many kudos to each and every post i read with regard to rooting, flashing, radios and roms!!! yes, i am a lurker, but thanks all around!

fxb141 said:
I must say, i love the synergy rom! it seems fast and really rocks! I did have to update my stock base version radio MR1 to MR2.5 so i had service. flashing went great. many kudos to each and every post i read with regard to rooting, flashing, radios and roms!!! yes, i am a lurker, but thanks all around!
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Glad everything worked out and that you are enjoying Synergy. Don't be afraid to try other ROMs though. I've flashed almost every rom out there and decided to keep synergy.
Sent from my HTC GingerBolt powered by the lastest Synergy ROM

Too many horror stories for me to root just yet. However I get multiple update demands from verizon every day which is driving me crazy, and today was the first time it actually tried to update itself without permission. I just happened to open my phone at work and saw it trying to download the update on its own. There was no way to cancel it either, I had to reboot the phone immediately to make it stop. It has yet to reappear, but we'll see what happens.

Rooting isn't worth it. Most of the ROM's out now are just plain awful (some people have no taste).

What are these horror stories you speak of?? I haven't heard of one person brick their phone rooting and that's the only horror story I can think of involving rooting. It's actually a pretty easy process if you just read up on what you are doing first.
As for the claim all the ROMs suck...well everyone if entitled to their opinion but there are Froyo sense and de-sensed ROMs, Gingerbread sense and de-sensed ROMs, and AOSP ROMs. You can have sense 2.1, 3.0, or no sense. Lots of themes to choose from if you want them. I don't see how that list is any different from any other HTC phone. That is not even including the fact that a lot of them greatly improve performance and batery life.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt

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[Q] ...next logical step?

Hello,
Semi-noob here, have done the jailbreak and unlockin' thing to My previous iPhone 3G and 3GS plus a linux user since 97' so I sorta have a clue, know just enough to get Me in trouble.
Anyway after owing a few iPhones and countless Palm phones and products I finally decided to get a Android device, pretty much for the same reasons most people migrate from the iOS to Android.So I picked up a Motorola Atrix4G from ATT a couple of days ago running 2.3.4 I promised Myself I wouldn't try to tweak to since I need this phone heavily for work. Well that last barely 24Hours. So here is what I did.
After a few Missteps and a soft-bricking I sorta solved on My own I am now on 2.2.2 instead of 2.3.4
Gone is a bunch of the ATT bloatware...and some of the Motoblur stuff as well, I think?
I used RSDlite5.3.1 to install SBF1.8.3 and used Fastboot to unlock the bootloader, Also installed clockworkMod recovery and Superuser is enabled.
I like this GUI much better than the bloated one that came on the phone. But My question is am I missing out on features/tweaks present in version 2.3.4? Can I step back up to 2.3.4 and retain My unlocked bootloader? What is the preferred custom ROM....where do I go from here? better said what is the next logical step.
Thanks in Advance.
J.
P.S. For someone like Myself who works on the road 5 day a week on average the fingerprint reader is a godsend....finally a feature that makes sense.

...in true NOOB fashion
So after My earlier post I did a little more digging and figured out I should put pudding's 2.3.4.SBF on My atrix...install went fine. Only wrinkle was I had to reinstall the clockworkmod and Superuser access. Tested, Rooted 100% and everything is working as it should....All the SU apps are working fine as well.No complaints.
J.

If you want the fingerprint sensor but also want a quick low-bloat rom id suggest alien it works really well and its easy to install.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

Saying Hi, ROM Recommendations & Other Noob Questions

Kind of long, but genuine, trying not to get too much bashed here...
Preface/Experience: A year ago or so I experimented with the Samsung Nexus S line of phones from all the major carriers, rooted them, flashed some ROMs, etc, and all my knowledge was learned from here (thanks!), but that was a while ago. I ended up not keeping any of them due to issues at the time with them (GPS locking, single core, 3G, etc) and decided to wait for some newer technology. I recently picked up an HTC Sensation to finally replace my old Blackberry after I had some issues with it the other day. As soon as I took it out of the box, my girlfriend was all mad because the entire time she has had her Thunderbolt she has complained about the SMS application not having separate "bubbles" for the chat windows, and of course Sense 3.0 does this (yes, she has tried handcent and such but doesnt like it). She also fell in love with the Sense 3.0 lock screens I have, home screen scroll, etc. I decided this would be a good first task for me to get back into the Android game...
I spent the first day or so searching about what the hell S-On/S-Off were, how to root these, etc. I successfully have S-Off, root, etc on both our phones via the revolutionary application, clockwork recovery is installed, as well as titanium backup. I have also successfully flashed a synergyROM onto her phone with Sense 3.0 and she has been enjoying it for the most part.
Now, onto the questions...
First, as nice as this ROM is, its a little too modified for her liking. Is there a ROM that would suit her desires better? She is looking for basically stock looking, bloatware removed if possible, with Sense 3.0 messaging and lock screens at a minimum. Nothing too major really, just UI tweaks.
Second, am I correct that after flashing a ROM you need to reinstall titanium backup each time so you can restore your apps and data? Is there a Zip file I can store on the SD card to install TiBu so I dont have to sign in and get it from the market each time?
Third, am I also correct that the main purpose of clockwork recovery is to backup the ROM, and the main purpose of TiBu is for the apps and their data? Meaning, to get the stock ROM back on this phone, I use clockwork to flash the backup I made, then use TiBu to flash the backup I made with that? I know this seems simple, but I just want to be clear Im thinking about this correctly.
Fourth, does it make a difference if I boot into clockwork recovery to flash a ROM versus doing it through ROM manager?
Oh, and fifth. WTH is a radio file/ROM/whatever you want to call it and how do you know which one you have? We are having an issue with her 4G not working on this new ROM I flashed, I assume its an error on my behalf, possibly the radio file? I'm not too clear on what those are just yet (I know, I should know before I started, but oh well)... I will be searching again through the 5 mile long thread over at the site where I found the ROM about 4G connectivity, but so far I haven't seen any issues posted by other people which is why I think I might have missed a step or something.
Any insight to any of these questions is appreciated, and I thank you all in advance!

02CWRX said:
Kind of long, but genuine, trying not to get too much bashed here...
Preface/Experience: A year ago or so I experimented with the Samsung Nexus S line of phones from all the major carriers, rooted them, flashed some ROMs, etc, and all my knowledge was learned from here (thanks!), but that was a while ago. I ended up not keeping any of them due to issues at the time with them (GPS locking, single core, 3G, etc) and decided to wait for some newer technology. I recently picked up an HTC Sensation to finally replace my old Blackberry after I had some issues with it the other day. As soon as I took it out of the box, my girlfriend was all mad because the entire time she has had her Thunderbolt she has complained about the SMS application not having separate "bubbles" for the chat windows, and of course Sense 3.0 does this (yes, she has tried handcent and such but doesnt like it). She also fell in love with the Sense 3.0 lock screens I have, home screen scroll, etc. I decided this would be a good first task for me to get back into the Android game...
I spent the first day or so searching about what the hell S-On/S-Off were, how to root these, etc. I successfully have S-Off, root, etc on both our phones via the revolutionary application, clockwork recovery is installed, as well as titanium backup. I have also successfully flashed a synergyROM onto her phone with Sense 3.0 and she has been enjoying it for the most part.
Now, onto the questions...
First, as nice as this ROM is, its a little too modified for her liking. Is there a ROM that would suit her desires better? She is looking for basically stock looking, bloatware removed if possible, with Sense 3.0 messaging and lock screens at a minimum. Nothing too major really, just UI tweaks.
Second, am I correct that after flashing a ROM you need to reinstall titanium backup each time so you can restore your apps and data? Is there a Zip file I can store on the SD card to install TiBu so I dont have to sign in and get it from the market each time?
Third, am I also correct that the main purpose of clockwork recovery is to backup the ROM, and the main purpose of TiBu is for the apps and their data? Meaning, to get the stock ROM back on this phone, I use clockwork to flash the backup I made, then use TiBu to flash the backup I made with that? I know this seems simple, but I just want to be clear Im thinking about this correctly.
Fourth, does it make a difference if I boot into clockwork recovery to flash a ROM versus doing it through ROM manager?
Oh, and fifth. WTH is a radio file/ROM/whatever you want to call it and how do you know which one you have? We are having an issue with her 4G not working on this new ROM I flashed, I assume its an error on my behalf, possibly the radio file? I'm not too clear on what those are just yet (I know, I should know before I started, but oh well)... I will be searching again through the 5 mile long thread over at the site where I found the ROM about 4G connectivity, but so far I haven't seen any issues posted by other people which is why I think I might have missed a step or something.
Any insight to any of these questions is appreciated, and I thank you all in advance!
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Ok... Got to a real keyboard so I'll toss some answered out there and try to put some structure to the not so structured wealth of information...
One: Synergy is probably the most tweaked up ROM out there. If you're looking for something that's simply bullet-proof reliable, I highly recommend BAMF Forever. Chingy also has some good ROMs in the Gingeritis line. BAMF can be found at teambamf.com and Chingy's ROMs are at themilkmik.com.
If those prove too modified, there's a few debloated ROMs based off the latest OTA patched up to fix the problems with the OTA version.
Two: You wouldn't be looking for a .zip for Titanium Backup. You'd be looking for an .apk file. Not sure where to find that though. Not may devs pack a backup app with their ROM because tastes vary and TiBu isn't the only app that does what it does.
Three: You pretty much have the idea regarding Clockwork backups (a.k.a., nandroid backups). I will direct you to my Q&A thread linked in my sig regarding TiBu. Basically, doing a batch backup is all good, but doing a batch restore is an excellent way to render your ROM useless. Devs use different apps and versions and frameworks and the system data often doesn't work well one ROM to another.
Four: Regarding CWR and Rom Manager, pretty much every dev recommends against using Rom Manager for flashing their ROM. There seems to be issues for whatever reason and it's just proven unreliable over time. A custom recovery is the only good way to flash a ROM and perform the various utility functions a custom recovery affords. You have your choice between CWR, Amon Ra, and TeamWin.
Five: Let me break this down into the 6 basic kinds of flashable files. First, and most common is a ROM. This is the OS, kernel, and UI along with whatever apps the dev has added They are usually 250MB to 310MB .zip files.
Second would be a kernel. ROMs are packed with kernel, but custom kernels exist that may be better for your purposes.
Third, would be radios. Radios can be individual radio firmwares, or a pair of them for CDMA and LTE all in one .zip file. A pair will be roughly 24-25MB, a single radio roughly half that. I explain more about radios in my thread.
Forth would be custom recoveries. These you rarely need to flash, perhaps never, so long as the version you're using supports the ROM's that are out there, and just about every version out there for the Tbolt does.
Fifth would be bootloaders. This is something you pretty much NEVER need to flash unless you've got a pretty good reason to mess with it. Bad radio and bootloader flashes will brick your device.
Sixth would be an RUU. An RUU is a full firmware package for your device. New bootloader, stock recovery, stock kernel, stock ROM, and radios.
There are also mods and patches that you can flash as well. Those are done in the same way as ROMs and kernels. The firmware hierarchy would look something like [bootloader>radio>recovery>ROM] with the bootloader being about as basic as it gets. Once you get used to how all this fits together it will make a lot of sense.
Hope this helps. If you have further questions feel free to hit me up on gtalk, pm me here, or post in this thread or my Q&A thread. I'll get back with you ASAP.

Thanks for the reply, I added you to gtalk also. I kind of feel like a horses ass because Im not sure how I missed that Q&A link; I presume its because I was doing nothing but searching the forums and didn't see the stickies somehow - d'oh. Kind of embarrassing to read that right after doing exactly what it says not to do (ask for ROM suggestions, ask a question about the radios which is laid out as well).
I was looking at the BAMF ROMs just last night actually, looks like I will check those out. I chose the Synergy simply based off the 3 screen shots I saw with the Sense 3.0 (which was my goal). That ROM is pretty cool, but as I said, its a bit much for my (her) needs at this point. Since I got it swapped around and such, it seems Im on the right track none the less.
Ahh, apk, duh. Also the logic as to why its not included makes perfect sense, I hadnt thought of it like that since I just saw those two (clockwork and TiBu) as the "common standard" and went with them even though Im sure plenty of people use others. I just thought I read in one of the how-tos that "setting up accounts" could be skipped simply by loading a TiBu, but since you cant do that without having it and you have to setup the market account to get it, it seemed bassackwards to me I suppose. Oh well. I've made do just fine so far by loading it through the market both times I've needed to.
I assume by "custom recovery" you mean the recovery console using custom software such as CWR which has replaced the factory console. I used CWR to flash it the first time and then when I messed it up with the TiBu restore (which you also covered in your Q&A I read last night after I figured it out and fixed it), I re-flashed it via ROM manager and had no issues that way either - hence the question originally. I will stick to doing it through CWR.
The order of things makes some sense to me now and the light is starting to shine through. I still didn't see much about the radio in the ROM thread, so I'm still curious why we are only looking at 3G. I also (oddly?) didnt see a recommended radio to go with the ROM, but it was late and I was tired. I will look into this again.
Is there a good source for a nice clean stock RUU for her phone just in case we need to go back to stock to warranty it? It has a loose charging plug currently that we may want to have addressed. Alternatively, is there a better way to get it back to "out of the box stock" than flashing an RUU?
Thanks again!

02CWRX said:
Thanks for the reply, I added you to gtalk also. I kind of feel like a horses ass because Im not sure how I missed that Q&A link; I presume its because I was doing nothing but searching the forums and didn't see the stickies somehow - d'oh. Kind of embarrassing to read that right after doing exactly what it says not to do (ask for ROM suggestions, ask a question about the radios which is laid out as well).
I was looking at the BAMF ROMs just last night actually, looks like I will check those out. I chose the Synergy simply based off the 3 screen shots I saw with the Sense 3.0 (which was my goal). That ROM is pretty cool, but as I said, its a bit much for my (her) needs at this point. Since I got it swapped around and such, it seems Im on the right track none the less.
Ahh, apk, duh. Also the logic as to why its not included makes perfect sense, I hadnt thought of it like that since I just saw those two (clockwork and TiBu) as the "common standard" and went with them even though Im sure plenty of people use others. I just thought I read in one of the how-tos that "setting up accounts" could be skipped simply by loading a TiBu, but since you cant do that without having it and you have to setup the market account to get it, it seemed bassackwards to me I suppose. Oh well. I've made do just fine so far by loading it through the market both times I've needed to.
I assume by "custom recovery" you mean the recovery console using custom software such as CWR which has replaced the factory console. I used CWR to flash it the first time and then when I messed it up with the TiBu restore (which you also covered in your Q&A I read last night after I figured it out and fixed it), I re-flashed it via ROM manager and had no issues that way either - hence the question originally. I will stick to doing it through CWR.
The order of things makes some sense to me now and the light is starting to shine through. I still didn't see much about the radio in the ROM thread, so I'm still curious why we are only looking at 3G. I also (oddly?) didnt see a recommended radio to go with the ROM, but it was late and I was tired. I will look into this again.
Is there a good source for a nice clean stock RUU for her phone just in case we need to go back to stock to warranty it? It has a loose charging plug currently that we may want to have addressed. Alternatively, is there a better way to get it back to "out of the box stock" than flashing an RUU?
Thanks again!
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I think the RUU for 2.11.605.3 is floating around here somewhere. If it's not here, it's on Rootzwiki. The problem with flashing an RUU to return to stock is that if you rooted via Revolutionary it's not going to work. The bootloader Revolutionary is patched to prevent overwriting. You'll need to find a guide for unrooting after a Revolutionary root, but I think I have one in my thread. If you rooted via ADB, then flashing an RUU should do the trick.
Not really sure why LTE isn't working. LTE and CDMA data are handled on the same chip with the same radio so if one doesn't work, the other shouldn't work either. My best suggestion is try a different radio. I'd suggest the 2.10 radio or one of the 2.11 radios. People have generally been having pretty good luck with those. You might try going into the radio settings and forcing it to use LTE Only. If it can't find an LTE signal it'll revert back to 1x. For reference, any radio from an RUU 1.70 or later will work just fine with all the Gingerbread ROMs currently out there.
Hit me up if you've got any more questions.

Turns out it was in fact user error. There is a toggle built into the ROM to exclude LTE service if you wish *facepalm*
I had looked in a radio menu before after the first flash knowing of such toggles, but it was already selected correctly. It got reflashed after the TiBu mishap, still no 4G, and we called it a night. Today I found where someone mentioned a toggle and where it was, so I texted her to look following those directions. Sure enough she found it and she was able to change it to have 4G. I'm curious which menu I looked in initially and which menu she found the toggle in now. In any case, it seems its all working and that's what matters.

02CWRX said:
Turns out it was in fact user error. There is a toggle built into the ROM to exclude LTE service if you wish *facepalm*
I had looked in a radio menu before after the first flash knowing of such toggles, but it was already selected correctly. It got reflashed after the TiBu mishap, still no 4G, and we called it a night. Today I found where someone mentioned a toggle and where it was, so I texted her to look following those directions. Sure enough she found it and she was able to change it to have 4G. I'm curious which menu I looked in initially and which menu she found the toggle in now. In any case, it seems its all working and that's what matters.
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There's two of them, I know. Don't know why we need two that basically do the same thing, but we do! Glad you got it working. I use an app called LTE On/Off for flipping back and forth. Sometimes you need that because it'll stick on 3G when you know you're in an LTE area and it helps to kinda force it.

[Q] First time rooting. Rid me of my apprehension!

Hey guys,
So as the title suggests, this will be my first time rooting any phone. I attempted to root my HTC Inspire 4G, nearly bricked it, and kinda gave up on the whole thing.
Now, with my HTC One loaded with unecessary AT&T apps and other stupid bloatware, I find myself in the same position. I know there are many guides for rooting the One, but are there any that are particularly newbie-friendly? Also, I understand that after rooting, OTA updates are impossible. My question is...is 4.2.2 available currently? What about 4.3? And most importantly, how easy/difficult is it to install an update?
Thanks guys. This whole thing has me moderately excited, and equally freaked out (really really like this phone and DON'T want to brick it).

doubleojerbo said:
Hey guys,
So as the title suggests, this will be my first time rooting any phone. I attempted to root my HTC Inspire 4G, nearly bricked it, and kinda gave up on the whole thing.
Now, with my HTC One loaded with unecessary AT&T apps and other stupid bloatware, I find myself in the same position. I know there are many guides for rooting the One, but are there any that are particularly newbie-friendly? Also, I understand that after rooting, OTA updates are impossible. My question is...is 4.2.2 available currently? What about 4.3? And most importantly, how easy/difficult is it to install an update?
Thanks guys. This whole thing has me moderately excited, and equally freaked out (really really like this phone and DON'T want to brick it).
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If you have never rooted, an HTC device is probably a little intimidating compared to other manufacturers.
Now, if you just get a guide and follow it to a t, you'll be fine.
You can always get thr phone back to a stock state if you want an ota update, buy if you are running a custom rom, that dev will typically update that particular rom with the ota update.
Hope that helps
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if i can help....
i am new to android (iphone convert)...HTC ONE is my first droid device.
i had an iphone 5, Jailbroke it, was lovin life but needed a bigger screen.
HTC One, AT&T, 4.1.2 android
anyhow, i myself was in the same boat as you last week.
my main gripe with the stock HTC one is the fact that you cannot "wake up" the phone any other way
except for the power button. so annoying- it was driving me crazy.
also i have unlimited ATT data plan, and so my wifi tether was dead, and wanted to mod for that as well.
anyhow, i was on the fence regarding rooting my phone, but then i
finally ran into the BULLETPROOF kernel thread here at XDA, and i had to have it.
as i began to research my quest to brick my phone, i ran into this guy on youtube: qbking77
he has some great videos on youtube that will give you the exact instructions and directions on
what you will need to do to root your HTC phone.
His English is easy to understand, he has a support webpage/blog with links to everything you need, very very good and easy tutorial, probably what convinced me to do it.
so here are the steps that he gives:
#1. UNLOCK BOOTLOADER HERE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU7vi388dMk&feature=youtu.be
#2. ROOT INSTRUCTIONS HERE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRkAHw_GmIs
BAM!...you are done rooting.
He uses TWRP (custom recovery), and TWRP has been an easy interface for me, no gripes.
so, anyhow, after you have gone through those steps, if I can suggest a couple other things I ran into.
one of the main reasons I was wanting to root my phone, was to install the bulletproof kernel.
this kernel allows for you to “swipe to unlock” your HTC phone.
it’s super cool, and that was the first thing I wanted to install.
I went ahead and installed it, happy as can be…
everything seemed cool, but after a day or so, went to open my camera,
and what do you know, black camera death screen, NO CAMERA!
I was like WTH, ???
jumped back in the forums (guess I should have researched a little further)
and I am not sure why, or what the deal is, but there is a glitch with the kernel and 4.1.2 android version. some people were fine but there are a lot like me and had the camera error.
so long story longer,
I ended up trying to re-install every single bulletproof rom version that was available,
still no luck.
finally i PM'd another user on these forums, he said he installed the ANDROID REVOLUTION HD (4.2.2 ROM)
i went ahead and installed, then I installed the bulletproof kernel m7-3.4 (for 4.2.2)
and what do you know, 100% just fine, absolutely sweet.
only other thing I’ve done was install the ULTIMATE RIT_ARHD_12.1 (HD icon them package)
and man, my phone has a whole new life, and I am absolutely loving it.
anyhow, hope that helps,
those qbking77 vids are the best thing to use in my opinion,
(oh and qbking77 has a vid to install "free wifi hotspot for the HTC ONE"....took all but 5 minutes and that was the icing on the cake!)
good luck!
AJ

Welcome
I am not big into posting on XDA because I typically found my answers either here or on YouTube. As 9aj9 stated, look up qbking77 on youtube and follow his videos. They are very straight forward. On top of what 9aj9 stated, I also S-OFF and SuperCID. The following videos explain what S-OFF and SuperCID mean and how you get them.
S-OFF - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4BWxtjaamM
SuperCID - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvcYRNMq3YQ
I am personally running Stock Rooted Google Edition (link below), but I have flashed several things. It is all personal preference once you get rooted. Wish you the best of luck!
Stock Rooted GE- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360608

id like to throw my post in here if I could. I bought a factory unlocked One from htc.com and thought I was going to get updates from htc. They recently told me I still had to wait for updates from my carrier (att). with this bit of news Ive decided I want to put a stock google 4.2 on my one. Are these instructions posted above good for me to use? sense is something I can do without, has someone made a rom with 4.2 with sense as well?

downhillrider said:
id like to throw my post in here if I could. I bought a factory unlocked One from htc.com and thought I was going to get updates from htc. They recently told me I still had to wait for updates from my carrier (att). with this bit of news Ive decided I want to put a stock google 4.2 on my one. Are these instructions posted above good for me to use? sense is something I can do without, has someone made a rom with 4.2 with sense as well?
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I have the ViperOne rom, it's 4.2.2 and Sense 5....

Best advice is take a step back and give it a few days. You will absorb everything there is in time. And if you **** up it Can be fixed ^_^
Sent From My AT&T Salaxy S4 via XTC Private App

9aj9 posted the very videos I used to unlock my bootloader and root mine, thats exactly what I would have posted,,
And if you want a good rom to run that 4.2.2 use this one with Sense 5 as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
its close to stock with little tweaks here and there and its ALL I have been using. The Dev Mike1986 updates it rather often!
Plus if you are alittle worried at the moment, I would recommend keeping it simple and not worrying about SuperCID and S-off...while I to am both of these things, it isnt really necessary

You don't need to be rooted to wake your device with something beside the power button.
I use 'Power On Volume' and my volume button wakes my device. I use a different app that allows me to lock my HTC One with a touchscreen button.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2

Awesome!
I picked up the HTC One a few days ago from AT&T (coming from iOS). Like 9aj9, some things were finicky like not being able to wake the phone other than the power button, I can see the gripes with the volume button placement and are easily triggered. I got a slim case to give me space away from the volume rocker.
Anyway, I was going to flash to the Home2Wake kernel, but the bulletproof kernel sound even better! However, seems it's most stable if Android Revolution HD ROM in installed (is that the right word?).
So, I have one question before I proceed - can I revert the HTC One to stock 4.1.2 after flashing to Revolution ROM? I'm asking because I am still within the return window and would like the option of getting it back to stock if I wanted to return it.

Im pretty certain u can revert, when u go through qbking77's vids, i believe he has a vid in reverting back to stock.
But one main thing is u have to run a full backup once u have TWRP installed....
aj
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium

I was wondering about firmware. I just got my ATT One and I saw a lot of users are flashing the newest firmware.
Is this necessary and if so, what order do we do it in? Flash the firmware after Root?

bustedukulele said:
I was wondering about firmware. I just got my ATT One and I saw a lot of users are flashing the newest firmware.
Is this necessary and if so, what order do we do it in? Flash the firmware after Root?
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Not needed. The firmware that comes with the phone works on 4.2 roms also (the old If it isnt broken dont fix it comes to mind here ). Some of us just like to have the latest greatest everything so I did the firmware update as well, but like I said, its not necessary.
Also, when installing a 4.2 rom keep in mind that the file system will be different as 4.2 has support for multiple users.

Maybe I caught you before you went ahead and rooted, but it was honestly a piece of cake. I pretty much followed what 9aj9 wrote (thread 3). If you follow qbking77's videos, you can't go wrong. I used a W7 machine, even thought I usually use a Mac, but qbking77 used a W7, so I was able to do each step exactly. I did download the most recent SuperSU (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053) instead of the older version form the site.
Anyway take your time, make sure you have a few hours. Also, realize you will lose everything when you unlock the boot loader. I backed up most things with Helium, but you have to re-install all the apps, Helium just backs up the data.

Upgrading from android 4.1.1 due to "heartbleed bug"

Hi all. I am running 4.1.1 and have become aware my stock-rooted android version is at risk because of this latest "bug that affects SSL security. I like the "stock with goodies" rom that I have and want to keep everything the same as it is now. I read that you can flash an update file, but am concerned with the known issues this may cause. I cannot find any other custom rom that I like enough to want to switch to.
Android version: 4.1.1, Htc Sense 4+, Software version 3.16.651.3 710RD, HTC SDK API level 4.63, Baseband (Radio) 1.13.11.0830, Hboot 1.12 2222
TWRP version is 2.4.1.0
I want to stay rooted and be able to wifi tether without issues. Other roms I had issues with wifi tether among other things so Ive liked and stuck to this rom.
What would you do?

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write.artie said:
Hi all. I am running 4.1.1 and have become aware my stock-rooted android version is at risk because of this latest "bug that affects SSL security. I like the "stock with goodies" rom that I have and want to keep everything the same as it is now. I read that you can flash an update file, but am concerned with the known issues this may cause. I cannot find any other custom rom that I like enough to want to switch to.
Android version: 4.1.1, Htc Sense 4+, Software version 3.16.651.3 710RD, HTC SDK API level 4.63, Baseband (Radio) 1.13.11.0830, Hboot 1.12 2222
TWRP version is 2.4.1.0
I want to stay rooted and be able to wifi tether without issues. Other roms I had issues with wifi tether among other things so Ive liked and stuck to this rom.
What would you do?
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Before I give my input...what update file are you referring to? Was it an update file released from HTC, or from Google? Is it the 4.3 update that's been the latest rave around here (which is awesome, for the record)? Are you comfortable using Sense 5.0 (or 5.5)?
Sorry for all of the questions. While I can easily tell you that I would update, you don't seem very interested in doing so. Therefore, I need to know what you want, and you will get my educated answer.

My goal is to not be vulnerable to this SSL bug. I have not tried sense 5.0 or 5.5. Apparently google released a file to update to 4.3.
aarsyl said:
Before I give my input...what update file are you referring to? Was it an update file released from HTC, or from Google? Is it the 4.3 update that's been the latest rave around here (which is awesome, for the record)? Are you comfortable using Sense 5.0 (or 5.5)?
Sorry for all of the questions. While I can easily tell you that I would update, you don't seem very interested in doing so. Therefore, I need to know what you want, and you will get my educated answer.
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koolcat7 said:
My goal is to not be vulnerable to this SSL bug. I have not tried sense 5.0 or 5.5. Apparently google released a file to update to 4.3.
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I'm in the same boat running a 4.1.1-based ROM ... MeanBean ... that I would like to keep, too, because I like it a lot. I'm not in a hurry to change because I do no financial transactions on my phone, plus I have a complicating factor in that my Sprint device has been flashed to run on Page Plus, the Verizon MVNO, and I'm concerned that making a really drastic change like to 4.3 or 4.4 will break the flash and force me to get that redone (although the person I bought the phone from tested it and flash survived a factory reset in TWRP, so I'm feeling pretty good that wiping it's not going to be an issue).
I've done a Titanium Backup of my user apps and used TWRP to create a nandroid ... I'm a noob but I'm learning ... and I've downloaded Yankees 2450's Y14 Aroma 4.1.2-based app to my SD card and I'm planning to flash it at some point, "when I get around to it," as much to get in on the ROM fun as out of any concern over HeartBleed (although I won't deny that some concern exists). Maybe that's one you should consider, the reviews in the development section seem pretty solid, and again it doesn't seem like it would be a massive change, that's why I'm going with it.

Thanks for your input. Im looking at that thread now
where 4.1.2 aroma roms are. There are quite a few versions.... not sure which would be best to try.
aarsyl said:
Before I give my input...what update file are you referring to? Was it an update file released from HTC, or from Google? Is it the 4.3 update that's been the latest rave around here (which is awesome, for the record)? Are you comfortable using Sense 5.0 (or 5.5)?
Sorry for all of the questions. While I can easily tell you that I would update, you don't seem very interested in doing so. Therefore, I need to know what you want, and you will get my educated answer.
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prw94 said:
I'm in the same boat running a 4.1.1-based ROM ... MeanBean ... that I would like to keep, too, because I like it a lot. I'm not in a hurry to change because I do no financial transactions on my phone, plus I have a complicating factor in that my Sprint device has been flashed to run on Page Plus, the Verizon MVNO, and I'm concerned that making a really drastic change like to 4.3 or 4.4 will break the flash and force me to get that redone (although the person I bought the phone from tested it and flash survived a factory reset in TWRP, so I'm feeling pretty good that wiping it's not going to be an issue).
I've done a Titanium Backup of my user apps and used TWRP to create a nandroid ... I'm a noob but I'm learning ... and I've downloaded Yankees 2450's Y14 Aroma 4.1.2-based app to my SD card and I'm planning to flash it at some point, "when I get around to it," as much to get in on the ROM fun as out of any concern over HeartBleed (although I won't deny that some concern exists). Maybe that's one you should consider, the reviews in the development section seem pretty solid, and again it doesn't seem like it would be a massive change, that's why I'm going with it.
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koolcat7 said:
Thanks for your input. Im looking at that thread now
where 4.1.2 aroma roms are. There are quite a few versions.... not sure which would be best to try.
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I downloaded the Y14 build which is the latest. I think 4.1.2 has the vulnerability but the actual HeartBleed bug hasn't been engaged as in 4.1.1.

Ah, i just downloaded the Y14 as well, but if theres still vulnerability there im not sure id feel okay with that.
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I downloaded the Y14 build which is the latest. I think 4.1.2 has the vulnerability but the actual HeartBleed bug hasn't been engaged as in 4.1.1.
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koolcat7 said:
Ah, i just downloaded the Y14 as well, but if theres still vulnerability there im not sure id feel okay with that.
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Well the Hisense Sero 7 tablet I'm using to post (running 4.2.1) "has the vulnerability," but it's safe because HeartBleed isn't enabled. It's only enabled on 4.1.1 from everything I've heard.

Im going to give it a go now, and flash Y14.
prw94 said:
Well the Hisense Sero 7 tablet I'm using to post (running 4.2.1) "has the vulnerability," but it's safe because HeartBleed isn't enabled. It's only enabled on 4.1.1 from everything I've heard.
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koolcat7 said:
Im going to give it a go now, and flash Y14.
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Let me know how it works for you, I need to go ahead and flash mine, as noted I'm concerned about HeartBleed but not over panicking based in my usage.

So do you think this version 4.1.2 will ever have that ssl bug enabled? Im flashed and already having issues, only 1x signal and profile wont update =/
Activate this device does nothing as well. Even in WiFi settings, ALL networks show full bars, when i know many are very far away. Looks like im going back to my nandroid backup and decide what to do when i find more info. ALSO, 4G LTE did connect, but kept going away every 10 seconds or so, back to 1x which is not normal.
prw94 said:
Let me know how it works for you, I need to go ahead and flash mine, as noted I'm concerned about HeartBleed but not over panicking based in my usage.
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koolcat7 said:
So do you think this version 4.1.2 will ever have that ssl bug enabled? Im flashed and already having issues, only 1x signal and profile wont update =/
Activate this device does nothing as well. Even in WiFi settings, ALL networks show full bars, when i know many are very far away. Looks like im going back to my nandroid backup and decide what to do when i find more info. ALSO, 4G LTE did connect, but kept going away every 10 seconds or so, back to 1x which is not normal.
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No, HeartBleed will not be enabled in anything save 4.1.1. You need to read up about the origin of this thing and the mechanism by how it is or isn't a threat.
Your only option is to go to a custom ROM that is not 4.1.1 based, or wait on HTC to issue the update for the stock ROM that they've promised, but have given no ETA for (and I wouldn't hold my breath).
I don't know if you have enough posts here to post on the development board ... that's another reason I've held off doing anything, although I'm getting close thanks to this thread ... but the developer of that ROM is very responsive to people with issues, and as I said the thing is very popular and seems pretty bulletproof from the response.
I promise I'm not his PR person, have never spoken to him, just found that ROM when I was looking for something that would be the least drastic change from what I'm running now, because of being flashed to Page Plus (which only gives me 3G, but I knew that going in). 4.3, you have to do more than just wipe and flash because of the partitions changes.

When I think about it, I don't see how changing the partitions on the phone will affect the functionality of the phone while using Page Plus. Maybe I'm looking at it incorrectly, but I don't reactivate my phone with Sprint every time that I flash a new rom, root it, change partitions, or anything at all. I could be wrong, though, for I have never flashed my phone to any other service.

aarsyl said:
When I think about it, I don't see how changing the partitions on the phone will affect the functionality of the phone while using Page Plus. Maybe I'm looking at it incorrectly, but I don't reactivate my phone with Sprint every time that I flash a new rom, root it, change partitions, or anything at all. I could be wrong, though, for I have never flashed my phone to any other service.
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I really don't know, thus my hesitance in my own situation. Had a "recommend a ROM thread locked because I was unaware that wasn't kosher, so I went back to the boards (which can be a daunting experience for a noob) and found that particular ROM and I've also downloaded CM10 stable.
Am basically just acclimating myself to this stuff (phone was rooted, running MeanBean and flashed to PP when I bought it, have never done any of this), learning how to use Titanium and TWRP to make backups, etc.
I''d be lying if I said HeartBleed wasn't a concern to me, but I'm not as panicked as the OP about it. I know I need to probably change, although I'm quite happy as is with MeanBean. Biggest priority aside from security is not having to spend $50 or so to get the phone reflashed to PP.

4.1.1 has three digits the ones that matter are the first two. 4.1.2 may still be vulnerable to heart bleed. As for flashing to page plus you can do that on your own for free there are guides for how to do this all over. The best bet for every one running below 4.3 is to update to a Rom that is 4.3+ also with that update comes many fixes for the most common phone issue one might have while running below 4.3. There are 3 fully functioning roms currently available for the evo running on the updated partitions. Sense 5.5 by chubbz and I captain's stock Rom. And vins viper 4.0 with sense 5.5. Now with all this knowledge I've given you go explore, test the waters jump in. And always remember to post a question Rom related after at least 1 hour of thread searching Google and running the basics of Rom flashing. Wipe caches, dalvik if all else factory reset.
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Thanks for the advice. I have searched threads, as noted I have been practicing to test the waters ... I have a Titanium Backup of my apps and a Nandroid of current system with MeanBean on my SD card so I'm comfortable with that. I think I'm pretty clear on wiping the phone ... although I thought the factory reset took care of everything, do you still need to wipe caches/dalvik after that? Searching the threads is where I picked up on the 4.1.2 ROM which seems to be pretty bulletproof stable, and as far as I know HeartBleed isn't enabled in 4.1.2. I was basically looking at that as an intermediate step, again just to dip my foot in the pool of ROM flashing before attempting anything more elaborate. The instructions for going to 4.3 are a bit more complicated than wipe, flash, reboot, and I'd prefer to learn to swim a little better before jumping off the high board. Same with the Page Plus flashing. I'm sure I could eventually figure out how to do it myself, problem is I use my phone pretty much perpetually for work and can't afford to have it out of service for a millisecond, so it's worth the cost to me to get it done right first time, although I'd rather not break the flash in the first place. I've gotten some advice from folks who do such flashing that 4.3 will break it, every time.
Sinistertensai said:
4.1.1 has three digits the ones that matter are the first two. 4.1.2 may still be vulnerable to heart bleed. As for flashing to page plus you can do that on your own for free there are guides for how to do this all over. The best bet for every one running below 4.3 is to update to a Rom that is 4.3+ also with that update comes many fixes for the most common phone issue one might have while running below 4.3. There are 3 fully functioning roms currently available for the evo running on the updated partitions. Sense 5.5 by chubbz and I captain's stock Rom. And vins viper 4.0 with sense 5.5. Now with all this knowledge I've given you go explore, test the waters jump in. And always remember to post a question Rom related after at least 1 hour of thread searching Google and running the basics of Rom flashing. Wipe caches, dalvik if all else factory reset.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk
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So, I talked to a friend of mine who knows alot about alot... and he assured me that you will only be susceptible to heartbleed attacks on open or public wifi spots. So this bug does not affect anything over 3G/4G, which puts most of my concerns at risk. So don't be too worried if you don't constantly connect to open wifi networks you cannot completely trust. In conclusion, im not too concerned anymore and am going to leave the android version alone.
prw94 said:
Thanks for the advice. I have searched threads, as noted I have been practicing to test the waters ... I have a Titanium Backup of my apps and a Nandroid of current system with MeanBean on my SD card so I'm comfortable with that. I think I'm pretty clear on wiping the phone ... although I thought the factory reset took care of everything, do you still need to wipe caches/dalvik after that? Searching the threads is where I picked up on the 4.1.2 ROM which seems to be pretty bulletproof stable, and as far as I know HeartBleed isn't enabled in 4.1.2. I was basically looking at that as an intermediate step, again just to dip my foot in the pool of ROM flashing before attempting anything more elaborate. The instructions for going to 4.3 are a bit more complicated than wipe, flash, reboot, and I'd prefer to learn to swim a little better before jumping off the high board. Same with the Page Plus flashing. I'm sure I could eventually figure out how to do it myself, problem is I use my phone pretty much perpetually for work and can't afford to have it out of service for a millisecond, so it's worth the cost to me to get it done right first time, although I'd rather not break the flash in the first place. I've gotten some advice from folks who do such flashing that 4.3 will break it, every time.
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koolcat7 said:
So, I talked to a friend of mine who knows alot about alot... and he assured me that you will only be susceptible to heartbleed attacks on open or public wifi spots. So this bug does not affect anything over 3G/4G, which puts most of my concerns at risk. So don't be too worried if you don't constantly connect to open wifi networks you cannot completely trust. In conclusion, im not too concerned anymore and am going to leave the android version alone.
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OK good luck, still going to update mine as soon as I make the final call on which one to try. Decisions, decisions ...

Long time since Ive rooted or used custom roms, Need Suggestions HTC ONE MAX Sprint

K, Here's a little background. I've been using HTC Products for years. Kinda stuck on them. Way back when the HTC ONE Max was released I purchased 2 through Sprint VIA the upgrade Program. One for me, one for my wife. She preferred Samsung so I boxed hers back up, and well, forgot about it until last night when going through my dresser. I am going to activate it on my account, and retire my old one and just use it on a spare line I have ( now that my oldest son has his own plan ) for data, etc. I want to make some changes to it, and since its been soooooo long since I have rooted or used custom rom's. I am hoping some of you guys can help me out. There isn't much activity here for this phone right now, mostly folks having issues or looking for the cheap way. I am not concerned with dropping $25 on viper if needed, I'm all for ease. What I really need is advice on what methods to use to achieve my goals. Basically I don't care if I run stock rom, or custom. I just want to eliminate all the bloatware, Be able to tether the phone for wifi, and be able to access and use certain apps that require rooting. That's basically it. If I need to flash a custom rom, fine, so be it. What are the most stable roms out there for this phone that are still receiving updates. I have really tried using the search function to find the current procedures to S-off, root etc, but its pretty much a mess out there searching for current stuff, as many threads go back years. Hopefully this thread can kinda be a current guide to help folks like me that really like there Max's, at least till the next HTC Phablet comes out ( if ever ).
I would really appreciate any help you phone Guru's can give, especially since this is probably such a low demand device right now.. It would be really awesome if someone could post step by step, and include links to current info/downloads..The phone in question is running 4.4.2, Sense version 6.0, Software version 3.03.651.3
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!!!

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