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Hi guys,
If you have or have had the X10 aswell as the Samsung Galaxy S, please give me some feedback in this thread.
Thanx
- Martin
my advice x10 coz sony ericsson more trusted mark and not big different in specifications
regards
I took a look to the thread,and everybody is saying the Galaxy is way faster and 100 times better, so there is no point for us X10 user to go there and tell that the X10 is better.There are a lot of threads here about the X10 Vs. Samsung ,Desire etc. I choosed the X10 with the best build,design,and almost if not the same specs as the other phones around.(and multitouch is not an issue for me).
So choose what you like.
Being a thread in the Galaxy S forum, I am aware that people there might be a bit biased. However, I must say that the Samsung does feel snappier so apparantly the better hardware aren't just there to look good on the specs. The display also looks good but I'm a tad worried about the pixel density on the Samsung after being an X10 owner (which I still am, for that matter).
However, you don't get better tests than from people using it every day, so I was wanting to hear pros and cons from people who have or have had both devices.
- Martin
EDIT: In the other thread, I've made a list of what I think are the pros and cons of each phone. However, I've only read about the Galaxy S and spend a little time with one in a store.
I'd wait for the 2.1 upgrade and see how they compare then.... I'm anticipating some significantly noticeable improvements...
My contract ends on september the 26th, so I can't get the new phone until the day after. I hope the 2.1 update is release at least a week before that. The same goes for the 2.2 update for the Galaxy, which is to be released soon(ish) aswell.
Hi if you put the thread in galaxy s forum I'm sure you will get mainly positive answers. I have a galaxy s and I will just list what I think.
First the bad
GPS is currently not very good, sometimes it works well and usually gets a fix very quickly but all too often it will randomly put you facing the wrong way if you stop in a queue and sometimes will not get a signal or lose signal
The screen although perfect size and excellent multitouch response uses a strange subpixel layout which when you look closely you can see the individual leds this makes the text fuzzy when small and also makes edges fuzzy (most people don't seem to notice this but I look close at my screen)
no camera flash - night vision mode is good though and prob gives better pics of outdoor night images than most - not good for close/indoor night stuff
The good
Im not gonna say a lot here (I'm sure you have already heard loads) but I will say this is the fastest phone I have used, no other android I've used is as fast, good at playing games and general use. It's a nice size - seems small even though it has a large screen (which contary to what I say above is the best screen I have used on any phone - just wanted to let you know it is not perfect - all amoled screens seem to have that effect)
Another big plus is that it's just about the most popular android phone there is and likely to be very well supported by Samsung and all of us.
It also has a few bonuses which you are unlikely to see on most other phones (tv out, free good apps from samsung, dlna, wifi tethering etc)
As you can tell the galaxy isn't perfect but it's the one I waited for so that's where my vote lies (especially if like me you like to play a lot of games many of the best need multi touch)
still you may have different needs than me, I suggest reading all the reviews you can find and trying them out if you can (try gsmarena for reviews I find them nice and detailed and generally unbiased)
EDIT - Just looked at your other post and see you already have a x10, my advice then would be to wait for the 2.1 update coming soon and see what you think, unless you have lots of money or can do an exchange relatively cheap then you might just wanna do that. Otherwise you might wanna hold out and see if anything even better comes out soon, im thinking 4.3" super high res dual core or 2ghz I'm sure they can't be too far off and your x10 should do until they do
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Hi if you put the thread in galaxy s forum I'm sure you will get mainly positive answers. I have a galaxy s and I will just list what I think.
First the bad
GPS is currently not very good, sometimes it works well and usually gets a fix very quickly but all too often it will randomly put you facing the wrong way if you stop in a queue and sometimes will not get a signal or lose signal
The screen although perfect size and excellent multitouch response uses a strange subpixel layout which when you look closely you can see the individual leds this makes the text fuzzy when small and also makes edges fuzzy (most people don't seem to notice this but I look close at my screen)
no camera flash - night vision mode is good though and prob gives better pics of outdoor night images than most - not good for close/indoor night stuff
The good
Im not gonna say a lot here (I'm sure you have already heard loads) but I will say this is the fastest phone I have used, no other android I've used is as fast, good at playing games and general use. It's a nice size - seems small even though it has a large screen (which contary to what I say above is the best screen I have used on any phone - just wanted to let you know it is not perfect - all amoled screens seem to have that effect)
Another big plus is that it's just about the most popular android phone there is and likely to be very well supported by Samsung and all of us.
It also has a few bonuses which you are unlikely to see on most other phones (tv out, free good apps from samsung, dlna, wifi tethering etc)
As you can tell the galaxy isn't perfect but it's the one I waited for so that's where my vote lies (especially if like me you like to play a lot of games many of the best need multi touch)
still you may have different needs than me, I suggest reading all the reviews you can find and trying them out if you can (try gsmarena for reviews I find them nice and detailed and generally unbiased)
EDIT - Just looked at your other post and see you already have a x10, my advice then would be to wait for the 2.1 update coming soon and see what you think, unless you have lots of money or can do an exchange relatively cheap then you might just wanna do that. Otherwise you might wanna hold out and see if anything even better comes out soon, im thinking 4.3" super high res dual core or 2ghz I'm sure they can't be too far off and your x10 should do until they do
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very unbiassed reply..i'd like you to wait for some time... and compare both phones with upgrades.. every device has its pros and cons.. so know what you want out of a device and make your decision. possibly by that time something better than these two may come out in the market... theres no ending for this..
Id have to say that if the Samsung S had a decent flash (why they wouldn't include one is crazy), i would be pretty tempted to jump ship. They've already ported CM6 to it so the guys at Cyanogen must think its a worth while device and there support would be good enough for me.
galaxy is way better in almost every way. co-worker has it. played with it and from the first few minutes i knew that the galaxy s was a better phone. no question.
and every phone that came out or recently came out this year is moving on to 2.2 or even to gingerbread. x10 only going to 2.1? while 2.1 is better than 1.6, i'm still a bit disappointed.
The news of a psp phone intrigues me. If you like games I'd wait to hear more about that.
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I cant speak for the actual Galaxy S model but I did have the Captivate for 28 days. I loved the screen and it did play Asphalt HD very well. The GPS was mostly uses less and I wasnt crazy about the soft buttons. The lack of a camera led or notification led is a real bummer.
I have to be honest though. The Captivate was the buggiest Android (oem build) I have ever used. There are ways to "fix" some of the bugs but the GPS and shut down/reboot seem to persist.
Every phone has issues but the Captivate had a couple that I just couldnt live with.
The X10 has been a completely different experience for me. Very well built and very stable OS. I am not sure if this is thanks to AT&T having a newer build or not. I have no regrets with switching to the X10.
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I cant speak for the actual Galaxy S model but I did have the Captivate for 28 days. I loved the screen and it did play Asphalt HD very well. The GPS was mostly uses less and I wasnt crazy about the soft buttons. The lack of a camera led or notification led is a real bummer.
I have to be honest though. The Captivate was the buggiest Android (oem build) I have ever used. There are ways to "fix" some of the bugs but the GPS and shut down/reboot seem to persist.
Every phone has issues but the Captivate had a couple that I just couldnt live with.
The X10 has been a completely different experience for me. Very well built and very stable OS. I am not sure if this is thanks to AT&T having a newer build or not. I have no regrets with switching to the X10.
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+1 The led light and the notification led are very important to me. I agree with everything naplesbill said. Just to add a few more things, the screen on the x10 i think produces more realistic colors and thats with 16k atm so should be even better with 2.1 and 16m also text is sharper on the x10 vs the galaxy so if you browse and read things alot that is somthing to consider. The x10 is very stable and no lag like the samsung, its very well build and its beautiful. Overall great powerfull stable phone with unique looks. X10 hasnt let me down.
Hello guys!
I currently have the LG optimus one, and am looking to buy a new phone. Im torn apart between the SE xperia mini pro and the Moto Defy
Pls help me decide
On one hand theres the big screen on the defy and on the other theres the hw keypad and the 1Ghz procy :|
Any personal experiences?
guru_urug said:
Hello guys!
I currently have the LG optimus one, and am looking to buy a new phone. Im torn apart between the SE xperia mini pro and the Moto Defy
Pls help me decide
On one hand theres the big screen on the defy and on the other theres the hw keypad and the 1Ghz procy :|
Any personal experiences?
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Its basically whether you need the bigger screen or the keyboard. Processor should be similar, both can be overclocked to your liking. If you want both, how about something like the Desire Z?
the mini pro has a known issue of noise when recording video although Sony has said they will fix it in the next update (which should be any day now).
Me i like the small unique form factor rather than the ordinary 4" slab.
barrist said:
Its basically whether you need the bigger screen or the keyboard. Processor should be similar, both can be overclocked to your liking. If you want both, how about something like the Desire Z?
the mini pro has a known issue of noise when recording video although Sony has said they will fix it in the next update (which should be any day now).
Me i like the small unique form factor rather than the ordinary 4" slab.
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Yeah, I think one should only go for any of the mini's if one likes the small form factor. It's why I went for one too.
Otherwise, I think I'd have gone for a Ray or simply stuck with my Optimus One (which is a very good phone by itself, even if it's stuck with a measly 600MHz ARMv6 processor.
The Desire Z, jeez. I had one Terribly slow, unfortunately.
I'd say yes, the mini pro is definitely a recommendation.
You can play all games with the keyboard, which is pretty damn awesome
The phone itself is really smooth and never lags or hangs.
The Mini Pro has a big disadvantage: the reception. It really sucks compared to my old N82 so make sure the area where you're going to use the phone has a very good coverage otherwise the battery life will be really short.
Check my previous posts for more info
kiavik said:
The Mini Pro has a big disadvantage: the reception. It really sucks compared to my old N82 so make sure the area where you're going to use the phone has a very good coverage otherwise the battery life will be really short.
Check my previous posts for more info
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I haven't really had any reception problems yet, but the phone consistently shows far less (!) bars than my previous phones. It may be more a case of what the OS reports, than terrible reception per se.
However, I've noticed that the phone switches back to Edge far more often than my Optimus One (which sometimes did nothing at all until I clicked a link for a second time; probably because it kept trying to find the 3G network). If this keeps the user experience more consistent/fluid, I don't have a problem with it.
Same, no problems with the reception here.
I'm living in an average sized town in germany, nowhere near the inner city and always getting atleast 3/4 bars. It really depends on where you live and how good your carrier is
Mentioning Moto Defy tells me you are confused even about form factor. First decide, what you are, Type-er or Touch-er. If Type-er go with Mini Pro and if Touch-er then you have much better choices to go with than Defy.
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Mentioning Moto Defy tells me you are confused even about form factor. First decide, what you are, Type-er or Touch-er. If Type-er go with Mini Pro and if Touch-er then you have much better choices to go with than Defy.
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maybe those are the options between which he can choose if he wants a free phone on his contract? EDIT: anyway, since he's posting here, he clearly wants to be persuaded that the mini pro is the phone for him
i dont even think the screen is too small :O it's a perfectly sized smartphone for your pants pocket
Yeahh, i bought Mini 1 month ago, this's great even though it is considered to be not really manly ) However, i love the way to onw something that's "small" but "powerful"
So, highly recommend
Yes this phone is deceptive because it may seem like an entry level phone, it has the same internal specs as the other more "high end" phones in SE's lineup. That coupled with the fact that the processor only has to power a 3" screen as opposed to a 4" screen means it should in theory be better performing.
my only small thing is the battery (maybe its an android thing in general) is fairly weak imo. I'm waiting for a third party 1600mah battery to arrive and hopefully it'll improve.
it's really powerful yeah. all the emulators run so damn smooth.
the battery is indeed an issue. i bought myself another stock battery and a charging station. I never need to charge the phone itself
Hey. My previous phone was Optimus One, I sold it and bought the xperia mini pro and never regrets it.
Remember the optimus one issues? Multitouch problem, lag when hold screen, worse battery life than xperia mini pro, 3mp camera w no flash, video recording is pretty low and not HD, lag when playing bigger HD games.
Well none of the above happens on the xperia mini pro. So just sell your optimus one and buy the mini pro just like me. Youll like it
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dryhte said:
I haven't really had any reception problems yet, but the phone consistently shows far less (!) bars than my previous phones. It may be more a case of what the OS reports, than terrible reception per se.
However, I've noticed that the phone switches back to Edge far more often than my Optimus One (which sometimes did nothing at all until I clicked a link for a second time; probably because it kept trying to find the 3G network). If this keeps the user experience more consistent/fluid, I don't have a problem with it.
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Well the dfference I have noticed is quite big: while the N82 shows full strength signal the Mini Pro shows no bar and it even drops the signal if hold it with my hand instead of 2 fingers. Both phones have a SIM from 3 wich is an operator that only uses 3G networks.
It is definitely an operator's coverage related issue because it doesn't happen in my hometown but still it's a sign that the phone's reception is not as good as the N82.
In other forums I have read about people complaining about this issue but only for the Mini Pro, the Mini from what I've read has a better reception.
Izzy Stinson said:
Hey. My previous phone was Optimus One, I sold it and bought the xperia mini pro and never regrets it.
Remember the optimus one issues? Multitouch problem, lag when hold screen, worse battery life than xperia mini pro, 3mp camera w no flash, video recording is pretty low and not HD, lag when playing bigger HD games.
Well none of the above happens on the xperia mini pro. So just sell your optimus one and buy the mini pro just like me. Youll like it
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Yes , The same to me , Just sold O1 is suck when gaming , but Some Dev has fix it already in CFW ...! Now Mini pro is fast far than O1 lolx
Hi Guys,
I have used Xperia X10, Xperia Arc, Xperia Play, Xperia S and I am finding it really difficult to think about another brand !!!
I just want to know the opinion of Xperia users (Xperia S/Arc S), do you guys thinking about moving to Samsung Galaxy S3?
Actually I have used Xperia S for a short time & returned the set due to:
1. Built Issues - lower part (below the transparent strip) was very loose, the phone looks very fragile, once dropped, its gonne (i hate using cases)
2. No Physical Button - I really missed the physical button (I know its personal choice), galaxy S3 has one single button.
3. Still lagging - the phone still lags, Xperia promoted this too much but I can still lag while switching screens.
4. Camera is not so good - I find my 8MP cam of Xperia Arc far better than XS.
5. Everybody hates the flip covers - common problem.
Regarding Galaxy S3 - I know its not beautiful design but it has got power, I have Galaxy Note and I know its a beast.
Note: I just need opinions so no arguments or word wars please
i never thought of samsung, moreover iproducts are costly.
And main thing is i don't have any problem with my xperia s currently and i am happy with it.
Not the galaxy s3. If the problems I have with the xs are not solved I would consider the one x.
Wouldn't think of it.
My reasons in a nutshell:
Too ugly (blah design), bad screen (pentile so not true HD), not much of an upgrade (more cores isnt always better).
by the way, there was already an opinion thread on the S3 made, and it got closed because it went a bit....south I guess.
you can see more opinions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1637191
and I hope this thread won't turn out like the last one, but yea...
I want powerful phone this time, dont want to buy n to make my phone wrking better by rooting !!!
It should run smooth...
I am waiting for SG3 & XGX.
I really liked the smoothness of HTC One X !!!
Good option.
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Well if you want power above all, the One X or the SGS3 wouldn't be a bad option.
I don't know if it's still a problem though, but the One X was a battery vampire I hear.
I myself have thought about a Razr (not easily available here) or HTC phone (One S) before moving over to the S. I don't really like sense though, but the design of HTC devices never hit the spot, so picked the S in the end.
I don't know how you will be lag-wise, as android itself has a sort of lag by design. You may have returned your device within 15min I read, but you didn't really give it enough time to win your heart. It is a powerful device without even needing to do anything to it.
But yes, for benchmarks above all, those two devices would be the best option currently. Or you can wait for the Mint to release and not have a brand dilemma at all . For actual daily use, I am not sure you will see a difference, as the S is already mostly butter smooth and has the design factor as well.
My reason was this..
PURCHASED XPERIA S and RETURNED within 15 minutes !!!
Guys,
Today I make up my mind n decided to purchase xperia S, enough waiting for GX/Hayabusa..
But once purchased, while playing with it, I found that the lower part of the XS (below the transparent strip) is loose, I can move that part n looks pathetic
I went to the store, he exchanged immediately with another one, that too was not looking very solid !!!
Its just me unluckily or luckily saw that or its design/built issue
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xperiax10.awesome said:
My reason was this..
PURCHASED XPERIA S and RETURNED within 15 minutes !!!
Guys,
Today I make up my mind n decided to purchase xperia S, enough waiting for GX/Hayabusa..
But once purchased, while playing with it, I found that the lower part of the XS (below the transparent strip) is loose, I can move that part n looks pathetic
I went to the store, he exchanged immediately with another one, that too was not looking very solid !!!
Its just me unluckily or luckily saw that or its design/built issue
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Your luck, probably early batch. 12w11 here, the build is rock solid, even port flaps.
Same here. No build Quality issues at all. Mine is 12W16.
The port flaps also seem well built. As for lag, I don't think GS3 would be noticeably smoother in daily usage than XS. XS is already almost on par with Galaxy Nexus and Htc One X in terms of real life usage even with Gingerbread.
ICS update should make things even smoother.
As for the GS3, nope I won't buy a Samsung phone ever. The GS3 design is a joke and its too big for my taste. Plus has an inferior camera, and a much less sharp screen with over saturated colors. No thanks
These no. 12w11, 12w16 are written on back right? After removing the back case???
Or is there any way to identify the batch seeing the Box itself!!
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Mate are you serious? Haven't we already had a thread like this that got kicked to the bottom of the forum?
Found here THREAD CLOSED
Again this is for the General discussion thread not for the Xperia S forum.
Not starting a flame war, just stating fact via my opinion.
-smc
Im staying with my XS.
Main reson is the design that looks like no other mobile out there.
And i a everyday use, i dont think ill notice the difference in dual vs. quad power.
The screen size is allso a problem for SIII. Its not the size of the boat, its the motion of the ocean thats important.
We've been through all this before!!
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hello guys, easy question
Are you happy with this phone?
I'm hesitating among several qwerty phones but the lack of development is doing me reluctant to buy any of them.
These are my options.
Anything important problems or issues not solvable i should know about this little device?
I love my mini pro.
I used to have a x10 mini pro, then when SE released the SK17i mini pro I brought one in black, but I dropped that and broke it and replaced it with a white one. I can afford to go buy any phone but I just like my mini pro so much I'm sticking with it.
Only negative point really for some people might be the screen size being a little small for playing games and watching movies.
the keyboard is perfect, I can easily type without looking at the screen. the phone is great for daily usage and some casual games. it can get a bit laggy while surfing on the internet though.
It's a great little phone. You can't really get better for the price.
The xperia pro would be a fine option as well, but it's just plain ugly, and I really think the Mini Pro handles tasks better because of it's lower resolution, which also means something for RAM usage.
BTW you've listed the Relay 4G as one of your options. I'd say go get it. As some member said, it's now officially supported by CM, which is way better than Samsung's Touchwiz.
Hello guys!
I'm thinking about buying this phone, because my HTC Desire S is dying slowly...
Is it worth buying? Can somebody point me some annoying details/disadvantages? Phone seems to be nice, but I don't want to regret spent money later...
silent_hunter said:
Hello guys!
I'm thinking about buying this phone, because my HTC Desire S is dying slowly...
Is it worth buying? Can somebody point me some annoying details/disadvantages? Phone seems to be nice, but I don't want to regret spent money later...
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i have mine since last week and it´s a good phone
just one thing i don´t like is built full of plastic sory for my english i´m from portugal
not worth it :/
2 days using it, and i'm like: "man, why did i get this phone :/ ?", the camera is really bad, and just one of the chips support 3g, the other is just 2g :/
and as you see, it still doesn't have other roms and etc.
i was needing a dual-chip, and i think we do not have a super nice choice for it :/
if you have the chance, get another htc
Hi,
I'm ex user of htc desire s too.
Mine was broken after my wife smash it to the floor..
Now i'm looking for a new phone,
And when i saw this lg g2 mini, i think it will fits me,,
Another option is asus zenfone 5, but there is no stock here in indonesia
fimk said:
not worth it :/
2 days using it, and i'm like: "man, why did i get this phone :/ ?", the camera is really bad, and just one of the chips support 3g, the other is just 2g :/
and as you see, it still doesn't have other roms and etc.
i was needing a dual-chip, and i think we do not have a super nice choice for it :/
if you have the chance, get another htc
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Eh?
So, can you suggest another brand, models?
silent_hunter said:
Hello guys!
I'm thinking about buying this phone, because my HTC Desire S is dying slowly...
Is it worth buying? Can somebody point me some annoying details/disadvantages? Phone seems to be nice, but I don't want to regret spent money later...
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First thing that you need to consider is what are you looking for in a device, how you'll gonna use it, are you a mobile device gamer, what kind of games do you play on your device, etc. Once you have all your answer, check the details and specification of the device you wanted and verify if it can handle your needs. As for the LG G2 mini, the camera is sub par though it is quite okay for me since I don't take pictures regularly. It may be a mid range device, but it can quite handle some of the new games (not all but some) and HD movies due to the low pixel density of the screen which the gpu does not exert to much effort to load it. There are also some very nice preloaded application that I find it useful such as QuickRemote, QuickApps, Guest Mode, Wireless printing, Radio, Knock Code etc. Almost everything the LG G2 has this device have it also except for the ambient light sensor, notification LED on the power button, Dual Recording, and other unique features that the LG G2 has.
my previous phone were note 2, the screen was too big and I was looking for "optimal" phone for me, but I dont wanted samsung. I found G2 Mini and it's worth to buy, I've him for 3 days. UI is smooth, fast, camera is good, battery life is 3 times longer than note 2
If I will be able to buy that phone second time will I do that ... ?
yes, 7/10 from me,
Small resolution and no LED are big disadvantages, but I can live with it.
Sorry for English, Im not so good
In my opinion most users will be happy with this phone, nice and fast UI, nice gaming experience, good battery etc. but unfortunately there are some problems that excludes this phone from using by some kind of people (like me).
GPS is worse than every device I ever had.
No USB OTG support (LG says that there is no hardware support for that)
No ambient light sensor and no LED indicator.