What's up fellow Evo 3Ders??
Let me first start off by introducing myself. I'm BThomas22x, and up until today, I Developed exclusively for the Samsung Epic 4G. This has obviously changed though, because today I got myself an Evo 3D, and will now be Developing for this device as well. If you guys need any credentials for anything I've done, feel free to go to the Epic 4G Dev section and just look me up. I've done numerous things for the community, such as: porting Ubuntu, Developing ROM's, Developing Kernels, and countless contributions to Mods and helping other Developers with their ROMs, and/or Kernels. I actually have a friend that came to the 3D as well, Sniperkill, if anyone is familiar with him, feel free to ask him as well. Now, onto the reason for this thread.
Since I will be developing for the 3D now as well, I'm going to need a team. I prefer to have people that actually have experience, however, experience is not necessary. To be completely honest, if you don't have any experience, I will personally work with you to start you out on themes or something simple. Also, as of right now, I do NOT have a team name. My team is Team Viper for the Epic, but seeing as how someone already has that team name for the 3D, I will have to think of something else. Once the team is created, we will, as a team, decide on a name, unless I think of something really cool before then lol . Anyways, If you are interested, you can reply to this thread, or you can shoot me a PM. Give me a little something you've done, or if you have no experience, let me know and we'll work on getting you started.
Thank you all, I appreciate the time you took to read this. Feel free to hit me up any time, even if you're not interested in joining, and you just have a question. I believe in having a strong community spirit, and maintaining a drama free forum. There were some issues in the Epic forums with people being demanding or just causing drama with the few Dev's there were, so hopefully this community is a bit more peaceful lol. The only rules that I have for the team are actually really simple. They're the same rules for the entire XDA site. If you use someone else's work, give them credit, as well as please be respectful of other Developers as well. This is a community, so let's work together and make one of the best phones on the market even better.
Thanks again guys,
BThomas22x
My knowledge of Android is nowhere near yours, and I have a lot to learn, but I wouldn't mind trying if you go easy on me
LiquidSolstice said:
My knowledge of Android is nowhere near yours, and I have a lot to learn, but I wouldn't mind trying if you go easy on me
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The force is strong within this one. Anyhow, my knowledge in regards to android development is poo, but I am thinking of self teaching myself.
Wouldnt mind helping out. I'm pretty good at theming, just learned how to make skins, and learning new things. Also know how to make splash screens.
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I'm actually quite interested now. You seem like a great guy who's really willing to help out the less knowledgeable, I have a feeling this might be really cool to do
I am interested but my knowledge of android isn't that great however I am self taught computer builder/fixer and I have programed in Basic, C++, Perl and others probably not worth mentioning all self taught though (Right now my programing skill is weak as I haven't done any in 10+ years) but I am a super fast learner and would love a little guidance to give some back to this great forum.
I will happily join. I'm not much if a developer, but I want to learn more. I have designed websites and could learn rom theming, and with time can learn devoloping.
P.s. are u going to stick to snake names for the team name?
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I know very little and when I say very little I mean nothing lol. But I am willing to learn. If that counts. My profession is in It and system admin. Also I run a Pc repair business on the side. Self taught all the way. Only been dealing with android for a little over a year and a half. Started with my hero and now I'm on the 3d. If your team can use a guy Like me then I'm all in. I got time and dedication. Figure I can sleep when I die.
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I'll help, I guess. I know nothing fancy about developing, but I have made a theme and an app.
PM me If you want a noob with (possible) potential.
I dont know crap, but im bored with alot of time on my hands and would love to learn about cooking up Roms. Count me in.
I Haz 3D!
I've screwed around with kernels, ROMs, and such, but never actually built and flashed one. I'm still learning from resources on this site and elsewhere. I would love to help you out, and learn alot in the process. PM me if I could be of use. Or, [email protected]
Mark
BThomas22x said:
What's up fellow Evo 3Ders??
Let me first start off by introducing myself. I'm BThomas22x, and up until today, I Developed exclusively for the Samsung Epic 4G. This has obviously changed though, because today I got myself an Evo 3D, and will now be Developing for this device as well. If you guys need any credentials for anything I've done, feel free to go to the Epic 4G Dev section and just look me up. I've done numerous things for the community, such as: porting Ubuntu, Developing ROM's, Developing Kernels, and countless contributions to Mods and helping other Developers with their ROMs, and/or Kernels. I actually have a friend that came to the 3D as well, Sniperkill, if anyone is familiar with him, feel free to ask him as well. Now, onto the reason for this thread.
Since I will be developing for the 3D now as well, I'm going to need a team. I prefer to have people that actually have experience, however, experience is not necessary. To be completely honest, if you don't have any experience, I will personally work with you to start you out on themes or something simple. Also, as of right now, I do NOT have a team name. My team is Team Viper for the Epic, but seeing as how someone already has that team name for the 3D, I will have to think of something else. Once the team is created, we will, as a team, decide on a name, unless I think of something really cool before then lol . Anyways, If you are interested, you can reply to this thread, or you can shoot me a PM. Give me a little something you've done, or if you have no experience, let me know and we'll work on getting you started.
Thank you all, I appreciate the time you took to read this. Feel free to hit me up any time, even if you're not interested in joining, and you just have a question. I believe in having a strong community spirit, and maintaining a drama free forum. There were some issues in the Epic forums with people being demanding or just causing drama with the few Dev's there were, so hopefully this community is a bit more peaceful lol. The only rules that I have for the team are actually really simple. They're the same rules for the entire XDA site. If you use someone else's work, give them credit, as well as please be respectful of other Developers as well. This is a community, so let's work together and make one of the best phones on the market even better.
Thanks again guys,
BThomas22x
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I am extremely interested. While I don't have a lot of experience, I am teaching myself, with the help of a friend. I learn very fast. I am actually in college for Software Engineering. I would love to join your team.
Ps: Team Redline would be a pretty cool name. I was wanting to get my own team started and was going to use that.
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Count me in. I know java programming but have no idea on android development, it would be nice to learn and help as much as I can.
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im in the same boat as laie and liquid, i am coming from the hero.. i have a lite programming background, and am currently teaching myself with the aide of a few people how to build kernels and theme.. i dont need to be on the team specifically since it looks like there are a ton of people vying for a position, but if you need a dedicated tester, i could be of help.. i am very good at troubleshooting, and finding bugs.. if you want any assistance and think you would like what i can do, just pm me..
Interested ... I can help with hosting, WiMax special settings and testing, Airwave Stuff, Software, etc etc...
ADB skills - Average
Tech Skills - Hardware, Special tools, Jtag
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Interested ... I can help with hosting, WiMax special settings and testing, Airwave Stuff, Software, etc etc...
ADB skills - Average
Tech Skills - Hardware, Special tools, Jtag
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Teach me how to Jtag! Lol.
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Intetested, made roms for nexus 4G and helped with 30 fps cap on EVO 4G, not familiar with 3d though...
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HEY BT!!! It's awesume to see you developing over here for the E3D!!
Let me tell you guys this, BThomass22x is a VERY talented developer! If any of you know, he was the chief developer for viperROM for the Epic 4g. His Roms were FAST, stable, and very well themed! A VERY talented developer!
It's good to hear from you again BT!!
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I am very intresting and would love to join! I dont have much knowledge but I am a quick learner
If you still need help, I'm down. I started on the OG EVO and built my own roms and themed them too, as well as compiled my own AOSP rom for it. I don't have much knowledge with Sense 3.0 yet but got a base rom last night to start ripping up and customizing. Also, I'm ridiculously keen on Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator, so I could help with making sigs for the team or making cool wallpapers for the ROM.
It would take me a while to catch on to customizing ROMs for Sense 3.0 simply because I'm used to the OG EVO but would be happy to help.
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I'm just curious who these seasoned devs are in here. I'm trying to see where this is going cause right now I see two paths: a really useful resource or a super duper kangkit/get rich quick scheme.
Until then I'm off to cook some food, not a rom.
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I'm just curious who these seasoned devs are in here. I'm trying to see where this is going cause right now I see two paths: a really useful resource or a super duper kangkit/get rich quick scheme.
Until then I'm off to cook some food, not a rom.
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I'm envisioning a multipurpose/variety thread. The likes of which never before seen. A thread so historically consequential, that the once elusive trade magic, some only hinted of in the fables of yesteryear, will be exposed, explained and made the standard. Oh yes, I'm with you when you say, "sounds much too important for just one dev to endure singlehandedly!" Which is why I bring you, the thread which will overclock your kernels 'till they pop ............................................................TOP ROM N' COOKING WITH YOUR HOSTS, DUDE AND KING!!
My mom says hi
I'd really like to see this become an active source of information between developers. A place where even some of the best can learn a thing or two.
Anyway... stepping up:
NPRussell
Creator of the various VillainROMs on the HTC Hero, capable of more than file moving and winzip, luckily.
I'll help out in here as much as possible to help get things moving!
@Cyanogen; Great introductory thread
I'm no mod, but I do have some priveleges.
Let me introduce myself.
Most of you won't know me for my efforts on Winmo i guess, since this is Android Chef Central. I worked with the best guys on creating a driver(pack) for Windows based MSM7XXX devices.
Now, I'm helping out XDA as much as I can.
Pleased to meet.
I am jcarrz1, an activist in the community and a fairly basic rom modder, etc. that looks for unique roms/bases and ideas for my creations.
not anything special, mind you.
im jamezelle(James L.) I dev for vogue-android, the eris and motodroid.
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im jamezelle(James L.) I dev for vogue-android, the eris and motodroid.
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wow all this time I thought I read some where you were a woman....don't know where I got that from lol....still loving Sense-able...
I myself can only winzip and push files plus some recoloring in gimp still trying to learn more...
NeoS2007 said:
I'm no mod, but I do have some priveleges.
Let me introduce myself.
Most of you won't know me for my efforts on Winmo i guess, since this is Android Chef Central. I worked with the best guys on creating a driver(pack) for Windows based MSM7XXX devices.
Now, I'm helping out XDA as much as I can.
Pleased to meet.
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Hey man, your graphics driver packs were more than appreciated for my Diamond / Touch Pro / Touch HD ROMs! They made a difference.
BTW ... I'm dsixda, who got his life stolen away after starting on the Windows Mobile 6.x Onyx ROMs for the Elf/Elfin ;-)
Now that I'm on Android I really want to get back to doing actual development work. (I don't think writing Mortscripts for my ROMs count, do they?) However, the stock Android ROMs in my opinion are useful enough for my day-to-day activities... I'm just a file pushing guy for now ;-)
I am charansingh. Just learnt how to build cyanogen mod from source, Have been building overclocked kernels for personal use lately just for testing. Now digging into cyanogen mod source to see if i can see something interesting to learn, edit and make something new. Lately i edited setting in the camera to allow unlimited video record time kind of. And will be doing more as a get time to do it
Keep it clean guys!
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Hey man, your graphics driver packs were more than appreciated for my Diamond / Touch Pro / Touch HD ROMs! They made a difference.
BTW ... I'm dsixda, who got his life stolen away after starting on the Windows Mobile 6.x Onyx ROMs for the Elf/Elfin ;-)
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Hey thanks man. I'm glad i've helped out people with my packs. I'm new to Android so i won't be much of a help in the graphics department, but I hope to help out as much as I can to get the best out of our snapdragon chipsets.
LOL
Warped420 or Michael, started the LEGION MODZ TEAM. Learned everything I know about building from PlayfulGod and Junkie 2100.
Built a JellyBeer $ROM$. But no visual until we used Hroark13's legacy mods.
I made a Tutorial on XDA.
Always here to help
Edit. I really should slow down and read. I'm not a mod
BCRichster- Newer member of LEGION MODS Team. I got your back, Warped420!
Theming is my focus, but trying to learn as much as I can about everything I can. Android Rocks! :beer:
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I've got thick skin so feel free to throw things.
Watching the forum over the last month I've seen a proliferation of ROMs to the point that I've stopped updating - also partly because my favorite and second favorite teams have stopped putting out new versions. I finally succumbed to the burning urge to try another ROM last night but ended up with buyers "meh."
The ROM environment has become so fragmented that it's hard to know what the advantage of ROM a is over ROM b other than appearance.
A comment from one of the ROM makers brought the problem into sharp focus. "I've renamed my ROM because I didn't know one of my team members already had a ROM named X."
How can you be part of a "team" and not know what's being produced by that team?
It seems like we've got more themers producing work in the form of full ROMs rather than themes. I've got nothing against themers, I love packages that can completely change the look of my device and I'm always on the lookout for cool new themes.
I'd rather see ROM maintainers and themers working together where the former group produces faster and more reliable ROMs while the latter group produces mods for those ROMs.
Do the two groups just not want to work closely together or are there predominantly just mostly lone wolves working at the ROM/theme level in Android?
Wrong section. Suppose to go in q&a (QUESTIONS and answers)
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I disagree because it's directly applicable to development and is aimed at the developers. It's not a general q/a question
I agree with this. There's no need to make a "rom" if you just change the theme. Just make a theme and zip it up then post it in the themes section. And oh yea I believe people refer to these people as "winzippers".
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OP has a great point about our forum here. Ive really stopped doing anything but for my own use, and with the exception of a few real roms put here, I've watched our Vibrant area here turn into a rom porting paradise, without a lot of original work done by people calling themselves devs. Several of these self proclaimed devs have asked me for help with recent projects, and have then been unable to provide even a simple logcat for diagnosis. If someone cant pull a logcat or understand how to do other basics, you really need to take your time and learn.
It is okay to theme and do little things while you learn, and take the time to put out a quality product, instead of a hurried build thats half broken. We have a slight handful of true devs out here, and a whole bunch of people who want to learn, but seem to be in too much of a hurry to kang others work and not really learn how to build a rom from the ground up. Its a damn shame.
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I agree with Br1cK'd. There are a lot of "devs" lately that seem to be kanging together half broken ROM's. I can't tell you how often lately I've flashed something only to find major bugs, when the OP claims that the ROM is 100 percent working and bug free. It seems that most of the more skilled developers have moved on to newer devices. I'm all for people learning but they need to do a lot of quality control before they post their work on XDA.
are you tryna say my team member ferhanmm that did an error ? whats up with you son?>
But then... what actually constitutes a "Rom".
For as far as I know, according to CM6/7/Miui people, only theirs are truly "Roms", as they are built from ground up.
Everything else is just a themed stock Rom, or improvements to existing Sammy framework. (Which I still love btw)
If there were malicious Roms that are purposely bricking systems, then I would argue for stricter requirements for releases. But as it stands, I think the openness of this forum allows users and developers alike to find what makes them happy.
I just think in general, Rom devs/maintainers get more credit (Thanks button hits?) than purely themers. As there is a feeling that themers kind of "work for" Rom Devs... Which is why people tend to package their work as Roms instead of themes (So their work seems less derivative or what not)
Wrong section, but I agree.
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Br1cK'd said:
OP has a great point about our forum here. Ive really stopped doing anything but for my own use, and with the exception of a few real roms put here, I've watched our Vibrant area here turn into a rom porting paradise, without a lot of original work done by people calling themselves devs. Several of these self proclaimed devs have asked me for help with recent projects, and have then been unable to provide even a simple logcat for diagnosis. If someone cant pull a logcat or understand how to do other basics, you really need to take your time and learn.
It is okay to theme and do little things while you learn, and take the time to put out a quality product, instead of a hurried build thats half broken. We have a slight handful of true devs out here, and a whole bunch of people who want to learn, but seem to be in too much of a hurry to kang others work and not really learn how to build a rom from the ground up. Its a damn shame.
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first of all about the logcat ? did you learn alone ? i guess that if someone ask you, its nno bad to help is it ? because i bet some one showed you...now about the kang, so almost every rom here is a kang right ? almost all roms based on stocks from i9000s and stocks kb1`s isnt it ?... i guess this people have the right to learn, but seems you guys that already know a little dont like to help huh?
I have more than enough mods on my rom to constitute it not being a theme, and I don't know about you but I don't memorize every rom name out there. It sounded similar so I changed it, what's wrong with that? Since 2.2 has already been tweaked to the max I was able to put out a pretty stable version in the first post. Only things I can really do from here are make it more efficient and finish the theme which I plan to do but I just posted it. And it's my first rom so thanks for the encouragement.
I agree, the forum is filling up with "roms" that are just the same rom rethemed over and over and over again. What annoys me most are these self-proclaimed "devs" who take bits and pieces of other people's work and put them together for their own "rom" when they didn't really write any of it. Just take a look at their credits lol... It's a crazy long list.
I don't think there's anything wrong with having multiple ROMs. After all, everyone will like something different.
I think what the OP is saying though is that there are ROMs out there are essentially the same pieces with different theme, or maybe a new lock screen, and whatnot. I think the OP means little additions like that can be part of a theme or the theme & apps forum and could be added to any ROM and doesn't warrant releasing a new ROM under a new name and new dev.
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I agree, the forum is filling up with "roms" that are just the same rom rethemed over and over and over again. What annoys me most are these self-proclaimed "devs" who take bits and pieces of other people's work and put them together for their own "rom" when they didn't really write any of it. Just take a look at their credits lol... It's a crazy long list.
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as my partner said above, hell son you dont undestand, everybody uses tweaks that are made because there is no need to redo it...name me any rom you have created ? do you know about roms? dont be stupid
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I don't think there's anything wrong with having multiple ROMs. After all, everyone will like something different.
I think what the OP is saying though is that there are ROMs out there are essentially the same pieces with different theme, or maybe a new lock screen, and whatnot. I think the OP means little additions like that can be part of a theme or the theme & apps forum and could be added to any ROM and doesn't warrant releasing a new ROM under a new name and new dev.
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+1
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I did my first root about two month ago. Since then I have tried about 20 various roms or updates to them. I tried one last week that seemed to be a copy from an established developer. The other team got really pissy and used alot of immature slang when confronted. I will no longer use any roms from them. I agree that people should learn from the ground up before posting roms and stop the plagiarism.
I appreciate the hard work of the legitimate developers on this site.
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I have more than enough mods on my rom to constitute it not being a theme, and I don't know about you but I don't memorize every rom name out there. It sounded similar so I changed it, what's wrong with that? Since 2.2 has already been tweaked to the max I was able to put out a pretty stable version in the first post. Only things I can really do from here are make it more efficient and finish the theme which I plan to do but I just posted it. And it's my first rom so thanks for the encouragement.
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dont pay attentionn to this ppl fer.. day just stupids ... look at thhe quote i made above.. its just stupid, they want us to redo the same **** that is already made... for example.. whats the need to do a gps fix when jellette made one already ? its just stupid
them may be half a$$ed devs but them gotta have donate button
Bosina & Br1cK'd, first, thanks for your input and participation but this thread isn't about helping or not. It's about packing up thematic changes and publishing them as a ROM rather than a theme bundle.
If a group of members wants to debate about newbies not giving as much as they get, please start a new thread.
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as my partner said above, hell son you dont undestand, everybody uses tweaks that are made because there is no need to redo it...name me any rom you have created ? do you know about roms? dont be stupid
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this dude ha ha shut up im trying to read and your comments are unnecessary and full of hate and You act like You are a Big Time developer who dont take s**t from anyone , go smoke something and relax , i dont see Team Whisky complain or Eugene, just You big time savior .
But if the teams join there will be more people to split the donation money between so maybe thats why people stay separate ?
I'm probably one of the many or maybe just a few who's been around here for several years taking advantage of everything the developers give us. I don't develop a thing and don't understand programming for **** but I do appreciate everyone one that does.
If it weren't for you guys making simple instructions and some one click programs wannabees like myself would be sol. Thanks for you your work.
I researched basic programming and must say it looks like a time consuming pain in the ass which makes it amazing that there's people in here that give us so many options. Much respect.
Thanks
Toast CHF
MikeyXDA
Dropzeroc/Team 420
Kushdeck
Chad.gooman
Jeffanace
Freeza
Platypus
Virus
Grueseome Wolf/Team Nocternal
Steal
Aamikam
Viper
Unknownforce
Vin255764
Vinchenzop
Leedroid
Anryl
Turge
And many more. If I've missed you it is unintentional and I apologize.
Without you my life would suck and I would be reduced to the technology known as the iPhone.
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Couldn't have said it better myself I completely agree!
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I'm not much of a ROM dev, but I am a app dev. It is very time consuming and you gotta have a passion for it. I am thankful for the devs here. I've donated money and helped devs when I could. Thanks to all the awesome devs. If any dev ever needs an extra programmer, I'm here to help if I can. I know Java, Android, and was a PhotoShop professional for 7+ years. I have one week of class left and I will be graduating with a degree in mobile application development... And it is all because of XDA that I quit my job as a newspaper photojournalist(7+years) to seek a career in programming.
Ken
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Like notasimpleway said it is all about having a passion. If you love what you are doing it is much easier and enjoyable. I started developing because I wanted to be able to make my own ROMs so I can add the features I want and not have to be dependent of another developer to get those features. I also like to help people and with XDA I am able to help people who share the same passion I have.
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notasimpleway said:
I'm not much of a ROM dev, but I am a app dev. It is very time consuming and you gotta have a passion for it. I am thankful for the devs here. I've donated money and helped devs when I could. Thanks to all the awesome devs. If any dev ever needs an extra programmer, I'm here to help if I can. I know Java, Android, and was a PhotoShop professional for 7+ years. I have one week of class left and I will be graduating with a degree in mobile application development... And it is all because of XDA that I quit my job as a newspaper photojournalist(7+years) to seek a career in programming.
Ken
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dastin1015 said:
Like notasimpleway said it is all about having a passion. If you love what you are doing it is much easier and enjoyable. I started developing because I wanted to be able to make my own ROMs so I can add the features I want and not have to be dependent of another developer to get those features. I also like to help people and with XDA I am able to help people who share the same passion I have.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Couldn't agree more with these, it takes a lot of patience and dedication to make things work the way you intend them to. Testing, Debugging, Bashing head against wall trying to figure out why one little thing doesn't work... it's all part of the fun. I just feel good that I can give something back to the community that gave me so much already. Classic XDA FTW.
+ 1 to the OP. Thank you all for everything you do! My phone and transformer prime would be boring as hell without you guys! It is very much appreciated!
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If I've helped you in any way... hit the "Thanks" button.
I am a developer :wack: I wish I had more interest in Android so I would do something with it lol.
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Couldn't agree more with these, it takes a lot of patience and dedication to make things work the way you intend them to. Testing, Debugging, Bashing head against wall trying to figure out why one little thing doesn't work... it's all part of the fun. I just feel good that I can give something back to the community that gave me so much already. Classic XDA FTW.
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Added you to list. You're insane man. I followed your thread on downgrading Hboot 1.5 and while I was lucky enough to not have 1.5 you would have saved me if I did. Thanks!
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When i flash stuff on my phone made by other devs and show people what i've changed, everyone goes "thats pretty sweet".
But then it actually upsets me that i actually really do enjoy all this and yet im studying subject that have nothing to do with computing (accounting, Economics ). Its too late to go back now and re-do A-levels and start computing, but i guess i just have to carry on what im doing, learning little by little everyday about android, coding e.t.c and maybe later on re-visit computing.
On a plus side, i have started reading through tutorials on internet to learn to code, i also tried to port a CDMA rom to GSM for myself to use (Failed), and was also thinking of making a basic app to see if i could actually do it! (Key word is thinking not actually doing)
And to think i've got so involved in all this, with a community that i managed to find after getting my trusty old desire, learning the basics on how to root and s-off. learning the basics of ADB. I'm very pleased with what i've learnt in 2 years yet i feel like i can learn much more and i will thanks to of course everyone here, especially the Devs and the people that write up long tutorials for people to learn from.
Maybe a few years down the line, ill release my own ROM or crack the Hboot of a device (Yeh dream on) But who knows
Thanks a million Developers
"Without you my life would suck and I would be reduced to the technology known as the iPhone."
very well said...
aerajan said:
I'm probably one of the many or maybe just a few who's been around here for several years taking advantage of everything the developers give us. I don't develop a thing and don't understand programming for **** but I do appreciate everyone one that does.
If it weren't for you guys making simple instructions and some one click programs wannabees like myself would be sol. Thanks for you your work.
I researched basic programming and must say it looks like a time consuming pain in the ass which makes it amazing that there's people in here that give us so many options. Much respect.
Thanks
Toast CHF
MikeyXDA
Dropzeroc/Team 420
Kushdeck
Chad.gooman
Jeffanace
Freeza
Platypus
Virus
Grueseome Wolf/Team Nocternal
Steal
Aamikam
Viper
Unknownforce
And many more. If I've missed you it is unintentional and I apologize.
Without you my life would suck and I would be reduced to the technology known as the iPhone.
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I wish one day I can make people happy like these guys have made me. One person I think you should add is vin255764. Been using a lot of his work since I first rooted.
Agreed.
Thanks to all devs.
Also, developing apps,roms and stuff is very interesting actually, once u try it ur deep into it...
Old age of programming where it had lack of visual and u were just typing all the ugly code manually then trying to run it for months is over. Now it's very interesting, like narcotic, once u tried it and understood something, you will get addicted..
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I wish one day I can make people happy like these guys have made me. One person I think you should add is vin255764. Been using a lot of his work since I first rooted.
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A few years of getting into development can get you a long way. Sure, it wont help on getting ICS to our 3Ds quicker, but it could help you in getting LTE on AOSP working on your Holographic Evo LTE++. Or you could get to work on that one app you always wished existed.
I'd recommend starting out with C/C++. Learn Java AFTER C++. I'm not sure where you could get started as I learned most of my stuff from classes, but a few textbooks/online tutorials sound like a good starting point.
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A few years of getting into development can get you a long way. Sure, it wont help on getting ICS to our 3Ds quicker, but it could help you in getting LTE on AOSP working on your Holographic Evo LTE++. Or you could get to work on that one app you always wished existed.
I'd recommend starting out with C/C++. Learn Java AFTER C++. I'm not sure where you could get started as I learned most of my stuff from classes, but a few textbooks/online tutorials sound like a good starting point.
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Too add onto this. You can also follow my tutorials in my signature to learn how to compile source code for AOSP or CM. It will get you familiar with using a command line as well as teach you about how Android comes together if you read some of the files and try working out errors along the way as you compile the source.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
thenewboston.org is a good place to start
Thank you for adding me to the list of developers. I really appreciate it, even though I consider myself more a MODder or hardcore tinkererererer lol.
The true developers are that of the TeamWin, Revolutionary, AOKP, CyanogenMOD, and MIUI teams. Brilliant minds at work here!
Amen fella!
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The true developers are that of the TeamWin, Revolutionary, AOKP, CyanogenMOD, and MIUI teams. Brilliant minds at work here!
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I agree with freeza here.
I started doing my own mods, themes and roms because, as dastin said, it gets tough having to rely on someone else to make what *you* or how *you* want it to look. Half the fun and a great learning technique is, finding an awesome mod, whether from another ROM, or even from a different device, and reverse engineering it.
That's how I got my start with finding the passion for developing. Sure, tutorials are great, but they offer little info about how or why changing 'this' makes it do 'that'.
Any aspiring developers/modders...the best advice I can offer is to learn from other peoples triumphs, by ripping it to shreds and seeing/figuring out how it works. It will give you a sense of satisfaction, but also provide building blocks for your own personal 'dev'ing' endeavors
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A few years of getting into development can get you a long way. Sure, it wont help on getting ICS to our 3Ds quicker, but it could help you in getting LTE on AOSP working on your Holographic Evo LTE++. Or you could get to work on that one app you always wished existed.
I'd recommend starting out with C/C++. Learn Java AFTER C++. I'm not sure where you could get started as I learned most of my stuff from classes, but a few textbooks/online tutorials sound like a good starting point.
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I agree. Learn C++ first and Java is so much easier to learn.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288714
there are some big names here that never released a Rom for the Amaze
what happened ???
I am wondering the same thing. They are really good devs.
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Let's PM them and ask..?
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Let's PM them and ask..?
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good idea
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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while i agree with you on this. i think with any phone now there will be people *****ing if you dont have fast development. its just how XDA/the internet is getting lol. i remember back in the mytouch/g1 days when people were cool and got along
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I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
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Lol ...and you think its just the forums here.... its the whole freaking society heading to exactly what you said.
Spoiled fuking punks.
Technology moving forward, society moving sideways, maybe a little backwards.... gl dude, I feel ya with what you are saying, you leaving is a loss, considering you actually contributed here, and didn't just post comments.
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Damn, im patient and busted my ass off at a craphole of a job to get this phone, but hey. Im happy with what i got and can wait for features that others are dying for. If we want things, then maybe we should learn ourselves. guess i got the wrong phone huh. Well guys, Were not all spoiled.
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I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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Agree with this whole heartedly.
I have spent the last year or so on this forum, researching my old phone G2 and my current phone Amaze. Just 1 month ago i finally built the courage to root & S-OFF my G2, loaded up recovery and a rom. I went detail by detail on this forum, every question i thought of i hit the search bar and walla, someone else had the same issue and it was resolved instantly. So 2 weeks ago i decided to root my Amaze and S-Off using the juopunutbear tool. I read for 2 straight days and in my modding infancy i made some mistakes, But as i returned to reading, i was able to make whatever wrong i had right. No needs to making new threads or pm'ing anyone. It's a shame people are to lazy to do the simple things that are required on this forum.
Just wanna say a huge thanks to all the helpfull users on these boards, be it devs or just random testers or noobs willing to make mistakes like myself in order to enjoy their phone to the fullest extent.
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I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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so you call all of us fake devs? just because alot of us dont know how to build from source very well doesnt mean were not real devs! its called theming, a different kind of dev. and along with theming, you make mods to roms.
you sir got your definition of a kang wrong. and people that ask eta's are just eager for the devs awesomeness to show. (it should make the devs happy that there work is at least wanted... if you dont like eta's, ignore the user)
as for pm's, just ignore it or answer it. the choice is yours lol. the community gives to you, you give back to the community. even if it means answering back to a pm. i've gotten pm's from users with questions about rooting the amaze. instead of pushing them away, i helped them.
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I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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I will see to it that we get working AOSP me and the tiamat dev are discussing gsm and ill fix it I promise. Sooner or later we will have it but I agree with everything else though
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I have spent the last year or so on this forum, researching my old phone G2 and my current phone Amaze. Just 1 month ago i finally built the courage to root & S-OFF my G2, loaded up recovery and a rom. I went detail by detail on this forum, every question i thought of i hit the search bar and walla, someone else had the same issue and it was resolved instantly. So 2 weeks ago i decided to root my Amaze and S-Off using the juopunutbear tool. I read for 2 straight days and in my modding infancy i made some mistakes, But as i returned to reading, i was able to make whatever wrong i had right. No needs to making new threads or pm'ing anyone. It's a shame people are to lazy to do the simple things that are required on this forum.
Just wanna say a huge thanks to all the helpfull users on these boards, be it devs or just random testers or noobs willing to make mistakes like myself in order to enjoy their phone to the fullest extent.
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15 months, 1 post, and this guy has it figured out. he should be a role model for all! unfortunately, the people that need to see this post are too busy creating new threads and asking silly questions
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15 months, 1 post, and this guy has it figured out. he should be a role model for all! unfortunately, the people that need to see this post are too busy creating new threads and asking silly questions
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We should all link that post to them lol
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I agree most with hasoon.... That said....
. The organisation here is atrocious...
The 5 step perfect how to walk through for any major topic is on Page 67 and never linked back to the op and takes 18 continuous hours of reading through misinformation to find... At which time you're exhausted and at roughly the highest level of doubt possible..
Roms ate not dated in the op or heading
Virtually nothing is stickied AND closed immediately
Chagelogs look like government cost justification spreadsheets...
Go look at the hd2 or even back to the HTC elf (touch)..
Ive been at this since the ipaq... This is by far the most impossible to discern community sub segment yet... I WILL agree their are a lot of princess's here... But I will ADMIT even I wont do crap yet till I DONT have to sort through 1200 posts to find what should be stickied at the top of the Page.
I post this as a a moderate between desperate nubes who don't deserve flaming AND desperate dev's sick of nubes not spending 18 hours doing what should be 5 minutes of searching.
The search function in the amaze area is almost pointless... We need 20 sticks at the top of the development forum with 3 posts then LOCK IT!!
I just re-read this and it sounds way harsher than what I wanted.. So.. Hugs and kisses to all!!..
Hope that helps!??
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so you call all of us fake devs? just because alot of us dont know how to build from source very well doesnt mean were not real devs!
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Yes it does. Sorry, but theming doesn't make you a true dev. Its the difference between being a medical assistant and a doctor. Sure some medical assistants, have great knowledge... but doesn't make them a doctor.
You can be a great themer, hell even the best... but it doesn't make you a dev.
If you don't understand what you are doing and you are just doing it, you're not really a developer
And this is not a bad thing. Lot of great themers, and props to them for being as such.
This of course is just imho, not trying to flame you or anyone else.
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ok lets stop with this back and forth crap and get back on topic, hmm?
ive stopped posting in this forum too, cuz i was sick of all the pm's, being a lurker is much easier, so its hard to blame any of those devs for never making a rom for us. all we can do is ask nicely and hope for the best.
glacierguy, you probably wont be reading this, but if you are, i want to thank you for putting up with all the crap you had to put up with, and for your sake i hope one day we can come up with a browser extension that magnifies the search button x9000.
eclipze, thank you too, for creating speedrom and allowing me to use it as a base for my own, which i never released, because you beat me to the aosp punch although i may have possibly found a way to get aosp contacts/phone working!!! ill pm you with details tomorrow
now then, how will we go about asking all those great devs to come back? a petition? (not a come back now one, but a please come back one) i dont think multiple pm's will work, only piss em off.
ideas?
or maybe we could start a thread and pm them and have them post in it?
or maybe i just posted this to bump the thread? im not too sure yet...
I guess we lost our best dev
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25869655
he is working on miui aokp and more lol XD
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I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
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I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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Well, I agree with you about nobody wanting to do the legwork of research, and also I see a lot of jerk-faces..
and in no way am I trying to argue, you've been a cool guy, one of the few members still here that I respect..
..but in defense of those "not devs", it is really hard to tell the difference. Where/how does a dev start? I didn't really like the community of my last phone, the vibrant, and it had plenty of development so there was never much point for me to trying to learn with that-- but the amaze needs devs, and with the release of ICS on a phone I find to be awesome, I finally want to learn.
Thus far all I have released is just a remix of other people's work, and one jar file barely modified to get beats to work-- but I am trying to find challenges and a good starting point for going from a "not-dev" to something more. I mean, the people who ARE developers had to start somewhere right? The hard part is figuring out where/how.
Right now I am trying to learn how to either: make a proper port(which requires some pretty heavy knowledge to properly integrate kernels, bootclasspaths, etc), or contribute to aosp(actually build it, fix it, make changes to git, etc), port something like leedroid tweaks(requires lots of compiling/decompiling, modification of everything, etc).. I'm just trying to figure out which would help give me the best experience to help me move on to even BIGGER things.
I guess I'm just saying that because not everyone is just trying to kang other people's work, but has to use that as part of the process for getting to something more their own! I had no doubt I could put together some awesome flashables that would be 100% problem free(based on other work, with proper credit given), that is the only reason I've offered it, but I am trying to take that next step!
As far as leaving these forums and xboarder.. I get frustrated by these forums too, but I can't say I can respect many of xboarder's actions. I know he is young, and probably 99% of the issues I see are related to that- but if I learn something that I think others could use I would share it. If I could work openly with other people I would. If the community would be better served by me doing something WITH others I would do it in a heartbeat. But he liked to get offended by people who didn't matter, he wouldn't set aside his differences to work with other people doing the same thing because he would rather prove he can do it without them-- the way he was trying to do things is just as counter productive(IMHO) to the "open source" community as all of these noobs clogging up the pipes that are chasing away members who WANT to contribute!
I'm curious about two devs who had enough money donated to them that they could buy an amaze(and maybe even more), who released ONE rom, and haven't been seen/heard from again.. I didn't have much to contribute(broke ass college student), but I was looking forward to seeing them do more work.
And to someone who posted before me talking about the lack of organization- I agree fully- I think this is a BIG reason why so many noobs are clogging up threads and inboxes-- but isn't that usually solved by good contributors and a good mod?
Why has this been locked?? There are no ICS ROM's that are any good??? Santod's basic ROM is just debloated stock.....
I really don't understand why they find the need to play God around here.... There are no ROM's!!! At this point there is no reason for an XDA Thunderbolt page!
STOP LOCKING THREADS... WHO GIVES A CRAP THAT IT IS OFF SANTOD'S BASE... THIS IS WHY THE PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE ANDROID... TOO MUCH POLITICS AND BULL CRAP.. JUST LET THESE GUYS MAKE GOOD ROMS SO WE CAN ENJOY OURSELVES...
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BUILDING OFF OTHER PEOPLES WORK.. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S CELL PHONE SOFTWARE!
JESUS H CHRIST..,..
Where can I find this ROM now? It has been removed from roots wiki as well?
5 custom ICS roms and 4 stock roms >>> HERE
Look around, there is more then just a stock rom there.
Don't speak about something you do not know the details of.
XDA has rules, so do other sites and when it comes to disrespecting me and the source from which you got your materials from, I then have rules too.
Besides, I have been told numerous times now that what I contributed wasn't anything, and easy enough to do.
So there should be no problem with it standing in any real devs way.
They simply make their own base and move on.
So crying about it is unnecessary for anyone involved, including me.
Everyone just does their own thing and moves on, simple as that.
I am hating on you Santod.. I have a lot of respect for you and i am sure everyone does.. I am on your rom right now.. The non eternity one... And it is honestly awesome, i just want a more aosp rom, i know you have a desense rom in the making but it has been pulled for weeks now.. I wanted to see mack, you, and jester all make a combined kick ass rom.. I am crying because i just want to see the tbolt finally succeed and with the help of all you great devs and hopefully an htc source code release.. The day may come.. I think you should all work together... Everyone respects all the devs but its awesome to see you guya work together.
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It's still on the host server and plenty are running it.
Check the last few pages of the thread....
I believe I posted 3-4 updates on that rom, this week alone.
Wow now I remember why I just got over this phone and moved on. Santod040 is the only one that attempted to integrate the patches into gb to get ICS for you guys. It wasn't a typical ruu, a lot of work had to go into that integration. And then everyone acted like it was open season on his work. His attitude might have been better if he was ever asked in the first place for it to be used. But he wasn't, and none of the other ICS roms really were any different than any of his. And I have seen a lot of people say that integrating the patches was easy work, but yet no other dev has done it themselves. There's a difference between development and taking someone else's rom zip, theming it, adding other tweaks also developed by someone else, and calling it yours.
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Wow now I remember why I just got over this phone and moved on. Santod040 is the only one that attempted to integrate the patches into gb to get ICS for you guys. It wasn't a typical ruu, a lot of work had to go into that integration. And then everyone acted like it was open season on his work. His attitude might have been better if he was ever asked in the first place for it to be used. But he wasn't, and none of the other ICS roms really were any different than any of his. And I have seen a lot of people say that integrating the patches was easy work, but yet no other dev has done it themselves. There's a difference between development and taking someone else's rom zip, theming it, adding other tweaks also developed by someone else, and calling it yours.
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This is a pretty good explanation of where I think santod is coming from even though it isn't coming from him directly. All of you are acting like it was some walk in the park or something to assemble the ota but it sure is taking all of you a lot longer than it took him to do.
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This is a pretty good explanation of where I think santod is coming from even though it isn't coming from him directly. All of you are acting like it was some walk in the park or something to assemble the ota but it sure is taking all of you a lot longer than it took him to do.
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Not really trying to speak for him, just back him up. It seems the easier rooting/roming becomes the less people seem to understand (or care to understand) what goes into development. They just want it now and don't care how they get it.
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Everybody respects Santod... but his ROM's are not on XDA they are on Infected Roms.... I am on his NuSense Rom for a while now.... It just seems ridiculous that Mack and Santod could not work together IMO... Now if Mack was refusing to give Santod his fully deserved credit for the Base and Stock Rom then yeah I understand.
I am not hating on Santod what so ever... I am getting the best battery life ever on his NuSense Sense 3.6 Rom... With Nova Launcher it actually moves pretty nice too for stock kernel...
Let's be honest though... Sense 3.6 sucks... Sense Sucks... We all want AOSP.. That is not happening until the Source get's released... so a Desensed Rom is something of extreme interest.
I can not wait for the Jelato Santod Rom to be done... I just figured maybe Mack or Jester may be able to throw Santod some ideas maybe and before you know if we would have a 10x better DeSensed ROM then if it was just by one particular Dev.
Yeah I mean the only thing that bugs me is that while Santod makes a good rom, he cant help himself from customizing it the way *he* likes it, and not the general public at times. Every time I use one of his roms I'm like "wow, amazing performance, sweet battery life, all the features but wtf is up with this font? Why this theme?". It'd be like getting a rewritten AOSP rom built from HTC's source, and then shipping it with a hello kitty theme I liked Mack's work because it had that truly vanilla feel to it with all the under the hood tweaks a launcher like Apex can offer. The new Jelato rom actually runs worse than the unsense rom, albeit just slightly. It's certainly better than Sense, but still kinda leaves something to be desired.
I guess what I ultimately dont get is why anybody cares if someone else rips off your work. It's not like either of them are being paid here, which means it all comes down to fame and recognition. If your motives are pure, and you are simply doing this for the community, then you should be happy that someone went and tweaked a new flavor of your rom for everybody to use. Why there's this whole desire for credit is beyond me. Seems kinda conceited. "How dare you steal my charitable donations!" What have you got to lose?
Like I said, I really dont want to see just one rom developer out there. If santod is the only one left with the skill to properly port these things, then he should be supportive of others customizing his work. It does do him or the community any good to horde all his development unless there's some sort of financial incentive in it for him and he needs revenue from this somehow. And if he gets bored or offended and quits then the TB community just dies forever? That sucks. If the only people left willing to contribute are kanger's, then let them! We cant have our entire community rest in the hands of one developer.
I support and help anybody and everybody that treats me with an ounce of respect.
IT IS NOT ABOUT CREDIT!!!!
I could give a **** about credits or your complaints about my theming.
Maybe the theming is my way of saying it's mine.
The original UnSense was about as Vanilla as it gets really.
If you don't like what I have to offer up, then don't use it, it's simple.
If the fact that someone else left their rom half sense and half aosp makes it more vanilla for you, then fine.
Use his pieced together rom, I don't care.
What do you guys want from me?
Sure, treat me like an asshole, but feel free to help yourself to my stuff....
Anyone whining about this still, needs to get a life.
Any real developer wouldn't have batted an eye, made their own base and rolled along.
If what I contributed was "nothing" and easy to do, why all the fuss?
By the way, everyone else loves the theme, you happen to be the first to complain about how it looks.
There is this thing called UOT and another called apktool, maybe you should find those and learn to use them, before you go criticizing anymore work of others.
You may find yourself with ZERO rom options!
Any useful thread on the matter that is not just santod vs the world or people complaining about locked threads will not be closed.
This is not such a thread.
They serve no useful purpose for the community.
If you have issue with this PM me, I am not looking to "play God" or any some such activity, but the denizens of this community must be spared such drama as found in this thread.
Let's all work together to create a better development community.