I've been looking at playback volume issues. I notice that the Android maximum volume on the gen8 is lower than the maximum alsa-supported volume. So one can boost the maximum playback volume a bit by using alsa mixers.
I have a little script that does that, but it uses a modified version of amixer from the alsa-tools package. Unfortunately, I haven't yet found a way to build amixer outside of the giant gen8 buildroots package, which means that due to GPL issues the only way I can redistribute is by including the giant gen8 buildroots. That's annoying. If anybody has a better solution, that would be welcome.
trust me, you don;t want to boost the volume due to the speaker of gen8 is very weak and fragile, even the default maximum volume could break it without much time. I RMA once due to play music at maximum volume, and a lot of other people experience the same thing.
How about the headphones? Can one play through them at max volume? The archos ones seem very quiet.
You could always get one of these (or similar):
http://amzn.com/B002V5M5E6
macemoneta said:
You could always get one of these (or similar):
http://amzn.com/B002V5M5E6
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True. But a software solution is preferred.
I might just tweak my little hack so it boosts only headphone volume, not internal speaker volume.
A smarter procedure would be to do digital range compression within alsa, and boost the apparent volume without actually boosting the maximum sound output. There are alsa filters for that, but I don't know how easy it is to insert an alsa filter.
arpruss said:
I might just tweak my little hack so it boosts only headphone volume, not internal speaker volume.
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If you're able to do this, would you post how?
jknut said:
If you're able to do this, would you post how?
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Sure, but because of the GPL issues mentioned in my original post, it might not be helpful to you unless you've got the Archos Gen8 build environment installed.
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When I had an iPod Touch, it's output volume had been capped ( something to do with European Union health and safety regulations ). I found a hack that removed that limit - and all was good.
I find a similar problem with the Hero - it's too quiet.
Is there any way to increase the volume??
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Better headphones?
Anything above half volume is too much using my isolation buds.
J-Zeus said:
When I had an iPod Touch, it's output volume had been capped ( something to do with European Union health and safety regulations ). I found a hack that removed that limit - and all was good.
I find a similar problem with the Hero - it's too quiet.
Is there any way to increase the volume??
cheers
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there is a way but requires a hacked csv file "which i am working on at the moment"
Anyone know a way to define the output for the volume levels? Basically when you turn the volume from 0 to the first bump up (I.e. supposed to be very quiet), I find it to be uncommonly loud. Any thoughts?
tgerbracht said:
Anyone know a way to define the output for the volume levels? Basically when you turn the volume from 0 to the first bump up (I.e. supposed to be very quiet), I find it to be uncommonly loud. Any thoughts?
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I am curious about this as well. Seems to be more noticeable when streaming video from the web browser.
I've noticed this also. Since all the ROMs so far are bases off of stock, it has affected each ROM I try as well
I've tried lowering sound in equalizer and looking for quiet apps, but not-so-shockingly no one wants an app to make their phone quieter, only louder. As for now, I either connect to a Bluetooth speaker and play that audio quietly or headphones.
I haven't tested this myself yet (but I will soon because it's such a problem) but I've heard that editing the build.prop (relatively easy to do) can adjust the volume levels. There's another thread somewhere around here that discusses doing this. I'll post back if/when I get it to work.
i used to complain how speakers was low on my previous phones,But dna it super loud on low.Like this beast of a phone have bose built in.
Same problem here. The lowest ringer volume level is still way too loud for work.
And with Sony xloud you can make it louder
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I also noticed this problem. The first bump of volume is way too loud. Hopefully someo f the custom roms can tweak this to be more reasonable.
First the basics. I'm running CM 11 M12 snapshot, and I've already installed Viper4Android, and it works. I'm aware of the mixer_paths.xml modifications as well, and those work for me. Is there any known setting in that particular file, or perhaps another known config that can be edited that will increase the Bluetooth volume? Viper4Android has successfully increased this, but just by a little. I would like to push it higher. I'm looking for the kind of jump I heard after changing the speaker level in mixer_paths.xml, which was dramatic. I need the extra push because the bluetooth input on my car radio is tied into an ipod adapter that just comes in at lower volume level than other inputs, and to get satisfactory levels with the iPod, I push my volume to about 3/4 of maximum, with the bluetooth I can't even reach that at 100%, and if I switch inputs without changing, it's jarring and dangerous. Thanks ahead of time for any input. I'm trying desperately to rid myself of iTunes and save myself from constantly burning disks.
Now that we have root for our Z3v's... I've been playing around with trying to find/edit the files that control our phones speaker volumes (both in call earpiece volume and speaker phone volume). I don't necessarily need to increase the speaker volume for playing music because most of the time I'm using bluetooth, but I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in that as well.
I'd like to be able to just modify the phones system files rather than use some sort of booster app.
From what I'm been able to find, the file located in /system/etc/ called mixer_paths.xml is what our device uses to control volume parameters. I've seen where other devices have had these types of files modified in order to boost max volumes.
Is this something we can do with our phones? The in call volume, both earpiece and speaker phone are just TOOOO quite for me.
This is about as far as I can comfortably go as I'm not a developer/programmer.
Anyone out there comfortable helping out with this idea? Is it possible.
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Now that we have root for our Z3v's... I've been playing around with trying to find/edit the files that control our phones speaker volumes (both in call earpiece volume and speaker phone volume). I don't necessarily need to increase the speaker volume for playing music because most of the time I'm using bluetooth, but I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in that as well.
I'd like to be able to just modify the phones system files rather than use some sort of booster app.
From what I'm been able to find, the file located in /system/etc/ called mixer_paths.xml is what our device uses to control volume parameters. I've seen where other devices have had these types of files modified in order to boost max volumes.
Is this something we can do with our phones? The in call volume, both earpiece and speaker phone are just TOOOO quite for me.
This is about as far as I can comfortably go as I'm not a developer/programmer.
Anyone out there comfortable helping out with this idea? Is it possible.
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I also would like to know how to increase the volumes
I think it's almost comical how low the audio levels out of the headphone jack are. I don't know if this can be fixed or what but even playing at full volume it seems too low.
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I think it's almost comical how low the audio levels out of the headphone jack are. I don't know if this can be fixed or what but even playing at full volume it seems too low.
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I've been using the Sound Mod from Z3 Development version 3.3 with Dolby Digital Plus (I think it has beast audio) & the volume on the headphones is so loud at the second click up. They even have a way to go back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3015912
I'm using the beast audio mod as well. Good stuff.
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I've been using the Sound Mod from Z3 Development version 3.3 with Dolby Digital Plus (I think it has beast audio) & the volume on the headphones is so loud at the second click up. They even have a way to go back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3015912
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This mod says lollipop only, does it run on the vzw z3v?
Edit : Read entire post Nevermind. ?
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Sorry to dredge up an old thread.... You say you're using the sound mod. Did you flash that in recovery?
Checking this out first, just got root today and don't want a shiny new paperweight anytime soon
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Sorry to dredge up an old thread.... You say you're using the sound mod. Did you flash that in recovery?
Checking this out first, just got root today and don't want a shiny new paperweight anytime soon
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I did flash the sound mod through recovery but it only boosted speaker volumes, not in call volumes. I used the one without Dolby.
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I did flash the sound mod through recovery but it only boosted speaker volumes, not in call volumes. I used the one without Dolby.
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Wow so we can flash .zip files in recovery now? Again just making sure, just rooted and there isn't a ton of info out there for our device atm. Thanks in advance
I flashed it in the dual recovery as well. Just make a backup first because the zip they have to take it back to stock isn't for our phone. In other words if you ever want to go back you should wipe & reload the backup. And make sure you don't install the lollipop version.
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Does this mod increase speaker volume in general? Like listening to music?
I upgraded from a V35 to a V60 and an very happy with the audio quality.
However, I listen to classic rock. Now I find that either Android, LG or Verizon has limited the LG V60's volume to 75% while using plug-in headset earphones and/or plug-in earbuds.
After two months of phone calls, in person visits to Verizon and web seatching there is nothing that can be done from a user perspective, that I can find. I've tried a couple of "volume booster" apps with zero success.
I've found this limitation using LG's earbuds, every set of earbuds I own, and, with Beyerdynamic 770's (250 ohm, Note, after reading reviews, I assumed the V60 would drive those 770's w/o issue). The limitation also exists played thru a NobSound DAC.
I've seen mention of "Poweramp" in other audio related threads, used in the thread to boost output from 48khz to 192khz, which should be amazing. But there are several similarly named apps...my guess is the aforementioned app is "PowerAmp Full Version Unlocker", for $5.49. Would this help volume as well?
Is there anyway to defeat this limitation?
Even a 10% increase would be satisfactory.
What if you turn on the DAC setting in the quick-settings? I'm sure you already thought of that.
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What if you turn on the DAC setting in the quick-settings? I'm sure you already thought of that.
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Yes, no effect.
I'm using the Neutron Player app which has a 'use on-board device's volume control' option you could turn off & use your DAC. I did this to use my tablet with an iFi DSD nano and the next time I used the [stupid] USB C to 3.5mm dongle without the DAC, it nearly blasted my ears. So if you try it, be careful when you're not using an external DAC.
The app is a pain to setup but that's because, in part, it has so many configuration options. Think Android vs iPhone taken up several notches. Once it's setup, you'll get used to the GUI/Ux itself which I did not find intuitive. Anyway, there's a free eval. version if you wanted to check it out.
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Hmm....I know this kind of sucks, but how about an external DAC? Those usually work via USB C and can provide very loud, very clean output.
Op is using a DAC.
The limitation also exists played thru a NobSound DAC.
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I'm using the Neutron Player app which has a 'use on-board device's volume control' option you could turn off & use your DAC. I did this to use my tablet with an iFi DSD nano and the next time I used the [stupid] USB C to 3.5mm dongle without the DAC, it nearly blasted my ears. So if you try it, be careful when you're not using an external DAC.
The app is a pain to setup but that's because, in part, it has so many configuration options. Think Android vs iPhone taken up several notches. Once it's setup, you'll get used to the GUI/Ux itself which I did not find intuitive. Anyway, there's a free eval. version if you wanted to check it out.
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Thanks. It seems an app will be the solution. And I've seen Neutron Player mentioned in other threads.
To repeat your method as I understand it: Neutron allows me to turn off the phone's volume (which will bypass the 75% limitation) and send the raw signal via Neutron to my external DAC which will ultimately control volume?
And Im a bit confused by your advice to use caution the next time I plug in my phones directly into my phone with my wired headphone's 3.5 jack? That implies the phones limits are permanently bypassed? Am I understanding you correctly?
I'm also curious over PowerAmp app as well. Not being tech savy, intuitive is a plus.
And again, many thanks for taking the time to comment!
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To repeat your method as I understand it: Neutron allows me to turn off the phone's volume (which will bypass the 75% limitation) and send the raw signal via Neutron to my external DAC which will ultimately control volume?
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Correct!
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And Im a bit confused by your advice to use caution the next time I plug in my phones directly into my phone with my wired headphone's 3.5 jack? That implies the phones limits are permanently bypassed? Am I understanding you correctly?
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Right, so Neutron has another setting (and it could be Android too, not sure), that starts the app automatically when you connect headphones. Or at least it offers to start, and you can easily accidentally tap it when it pops up. I wanted to bypass my tablet's volume when I connected my external DAC, since that has a hardwire volume control so I enabled that 'bypass device's volume' control. However, later when I went to use my tablet to watch a quick video I plugged in my every day earphones, probably tapped Neutron player unintentionally, and it started playing at max volume. On my V60 phone that probably isn't super loud, especially from what you're saying. However on my Samsung tablet it was screaming loud. It happened long enough ago that I've forgotten the exact circumstances.
Anyway, that control doesn't permanently bypass the phone's volume control. You can shut it off, and I can't say for sure if it has any affect on other apps. I only made that mistake once. Later I realized the volume in Neutron was loud enough with my DAC connected. The internal volume may well be bypassed automatically. I guess I need to listen to some music again through this rig soon to test it out. Unfortunately for both of us that won't be tonight.
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I'm also curious over PowerAmp app as well. Not being tech savy, intuitive is a plus.
And again, many thanks for taking the time to comment!
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I haven't used PowerAmp since it first came out in the early 2000s with the advent of MP3s. But chances are it is more intuitive than Neutron Player. I'm a professional audio engineer by trade & tech nerd, yet still get caught up in the menus and different screens all the time. If it didn't sound so good and stream DSD files right along side PCM audio, and stream my entire music collection from my NAS, I'd kick it right to the curb.
My pleasure. Hope this helps! Cheers.
Any real solution for this yet? I think it can be bypassed with root access to the build prop or the sound mixer found in system/vendor/etc.
Any rooted user care to check?
Are you saying this can be fix in build prop?? Which entry?
I'm about to root my phone. Have already BL unlock it.
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Are you saying this can be fix in build prop?? Which entry?
I'm about to root my phone. Have already BL unlock it.
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It should be in one of those two files. Most likely the sound mixer file though. I don't know exactly how the entry will look but i would guess something like "headphone volume limitations = max 75"
Change 75 to 100 save and reboot.
Again this is all just guesswork I'm not a developer and haven't rooted this particular phone yet and likely won't unless we get a custom aosp.