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I don't really know if it's anything important for android but Broadcom just released the source of it's latest generation of 11n chipset drivers. I believe many android devices (just like the nexus one) use broadcom chips so it may be a great news. Possibillities for FM transmitting? What are your thoughts?
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/55418
Interesting.. Maybe it helps getting FM Radio to work on AOSP.
maxisma said:
Interesting.. Maybe it helps getting FM Radio to work on AOSP.
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Wouldn't that be heaven Could we get word from a dev if this is worth anything? I know it's only been a few hours but anything seem "useful"?
Ownatik said:
I don't really know if it's anything important for android but Broadcom just released the source of it's latest generation of 11n chipset drivers. I believe many android devices (just like the nexus one) use broadcom chips so it may be a great news. Possibillities for FM transmitting? What are your thoughts?
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The hardware isn't physically capable of FM transmission, but it could certainly be useful for receiving support, most of the problem is still with the tuner application itself however as good kernel support is now available.
It can transmit if it can receive so transmission is fairly possible but will not happen without an application so first thing would be application to do it
I don't think the released source has support for our BCM chips yet. I think they're more of a future chipset and even that is still incomplete. Anyways, at least they released something which may help in decyphering the hardware.
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It can transmit if it can receive so transmission is fairly possible but will not happen without an application so first thing would be application to do it
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I'd give $50 maybe more to a dev that can get a nice fancy app together that enables FM transmission. Seriously. That would be mint!
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I don't think the released source has support for our BCM chips yet. I think they're more of a future chipset and even that is still incomplete. Anyways, at least they released something which may help in decyphering the hardware.
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From the original post:
It supports multiple current chips (BCM4313,
BCM43224, BCM43225) as well as providing a framework for supporting
additional chips in the future
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tnicko said:
I'd give $50 maybe more to a dev that can get a nice fancy app together that enables FM transmission. Seriously. That would be mint!
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Unless it's got some amplification circuitry attached to the FM side of things that we don't know about, then effective range would be a couple of inches.
Sounds good, this thread will probably get moved though. Is in the wrong section.
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Our chips are BCM4325 so my I stick by my first post.
The N1 is more than capable of doing FM. Using the Sense ROM, IntersectRaven (The poster above me) got it working in his kernal.
So its more than possible, so hopefully this will give devs a better insight into how the FM transmitter works. Would be better if we got the source code of the Desires FM app.....
FM transmission??, seriously lol, receipt yes but outbound? Maybe as an RC controller, surely not as a radio station.
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On a more interesting application, I think it's related to WEP encryption cracking. Think there's a thread in here on that topic.
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FM transmission??, seriously lol, receipt yes but outbound? Maybe as an RC controller, surely not as a radio station.
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I think the idea would be to use in a car or such, not as a "radio station".
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I think the idea would be to use in a car or such, not as a "radio station".
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The HAM in me chuckles.
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Hi Folks, this is a little embarassing but I cant get the fm radio to work.
I'm generally not that bad at figuring stuff out and the radio app appears to opens perfectly ok, I can turn the dial and tune to any specific frequency but there is simply no sound, or indication of a received signal
When I click on the arrows it even says "turn on the radio", which suggests its switched off, but where is the on button?
No doubt there is a really simple explaination that someone can ping back to me, many thanks
all mobile phones that have FM radio need the wired headset plugged in which acts as the antenna for the FM radio. so plug in your headset, then it will work.
Assuming that you have your headphones connected then the power button is at the top left corner of the screen.
Thanks for tolerating the noob folks I knew it would be something really simple, and guess what - its works as soon as I plug in the headset as mentioned, fabulous phone / Thanks again
So the Galaxy S 2 really DOES have the FM radio hardware ? And an app to use that hardware ?
I'm looking to get my FM radio app working on the Galaxy S 2, and I'm hoping it has a Silicon Labs FM chip, like the older Galaxy S.
I would be interested to know if there is a /dev/radio device or similar. The command "lsmod" might show a module loaded named Si4709_driver or there might be a file on the phone like Si4709_driver.ko .
If so, the market app "Fm TwoO" might work.
Or perhaps this phone uses a TI or Broadcom combination FM/BT/WiFi chip ?
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So the Galaxy S 2 really DOES have the FM radio hardware ? And an app to use that hardware ?
I'm looking to get my FM radio app working on the Galaxy S 2, and I'm hoping it has a Silicon Labs FM chip, like the older Galaxy S.
I would be interested to know if there is a /dev/radio device or similar. The command "lsmod" might show a module loaded named Si4709_driver or there might be a file on the phone like Si4709_driver.ko .
If so, the market app "Fm TwoO" might work.
Or perhaps this phone uses a TI or Broadcom combination FM/BT/WiFi chip ?
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Just an FYI for mikereidis, my TMobile UK S2 does have the Si4709_driver module
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Just an FYI for mikereidis, my TMobile UK S2 does have the Si4709_driver module
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Great ! Thank you.... Has anyone tried Fm TwoO on this device ?
Now if there were just a CyanogenMod port... and I could buy one locally...
For development I'd probably be better off getting the original S, and considering an S 2 when it's better supported with aftermarket ROMs etc.
Hey guys, do you know any good FM transmitter apps that we can use ?
I guess you are mean a FM receiver app?
A transmitter sends FM signals through the air and not sure if our mini has one.
Greetz YcKe
I mean transmitter
I would like to send FM signals from my phone
To transmit you'd need a transmitter, not just an app... there are some generic ones that you plug into the headphone jack, but I don't know how those things actually work.
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Quite a few of the latest Nokia phones have transmitters, I'm suprised SE are not interested in this.
This is one of the features I miss from my old Nokia phone... If only it could be possible...
Please, can anyone with RAZR check in music app is there option for FM radio?
(I think that before starting the app, you must insert 3.5mm headphones to enable this option in player)
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Please, can anyone with RAZR check in music app is there option for FM radio?
(I think that before starting the app, you must insert 3.5mm headphones to enable this option in player)
thx
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No, its internet radio only.
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Please, can anyone with RAZR check in music app is there option for FM radio?
(I think that before starting the app, you must insert 3.5mm headphones to enable this option in player)
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Confirmed with Verizon on twitter, no built-in FM radio.
Maybe it's there but just disabled like it was in the atrix. It is a shame why motorola keen on not putting fm radio on most of their devices.
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has anyone tried to install the droid 3 fm radio apk?? Can someone try installing the service apk and fm radio apk from this link please.; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257377
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has anyone tried to install the droid 3 fm radio apk?? Can someone try installing the service apk and fm radio apk from this link please.; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257377
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Hello someone tried the Radio that comment?
thanks
i tried MotoFMRadio.apk ... provided in that link ... force close .. using gsm razr xt910
Using an app like Any Cut (Free on the market) you can create a shortcut to an FM radio app - there's one built in alright, just doesn't seem to have the hardware to go with it. It'll prompt you to insert headphones, but will never find channels or turn on.
Anyone know if the chipset actually supports it?
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I remember reading this on engadget and there is no mention of an FM chip unfortunately
Silicon
CPU: TI OMAP 4430 at 1.2GHz, 2x 2395 BogoMIPS
GPU: PowerVR SGX540 (Frequencies not specified)
Baseband: CDMA Qualcomm MDM6600 (Same as Droid Bionic, Verizon iPhone 4)
LTE: Motorola Wrigley (Same as Droid Bionic)
NFC controller: NXP PN544 (Note: the Linux driver is present, but hardware appears to be missing or misconfigured)
HDMI: OMAP4 HDMI output with HDCP support
RAM: 1GB included, 919MB available to the OS
Sensors
Accelerometer: STMicroelectronics LIS3DH 3-axis
Magnetic Field sensor: Asahi Kasei AK8975 3-axis
Orientation sensor: Asahi Kasei AK8975
Proximity and light sensors: TAOS CT405
Gyroscope: STMicroelectronics L3G4200D
Barometric pressure sensor: Bosch Sensortec BMP180
Temperature sensor: TI TMP105
Directional tap / double-tap sensor: Kionix KXTF9 (May be related to the Webtop / LapDock)
Misc. internals
Frequency scaler: mot_hotplug (OMAP-optimized)
Android: 2.3.5
LCD density for Android UI scaling: 240dpi
Refresh rate: 60Hz (Maximum window manager events value set to 55fps only; in theory, this could make finger scrolling less smooth)
Linux kernel: 2.6.35.7
Screen controller supports CABC (Content Adaptive Brightness / Backlight Control)
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tera89 said:
i tried MotoFMRadio.apk ... provided in that link ... force close .. using gsm razr xt910
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Same here, no go
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onslaught86 said:
Using an app like Any Cut (Free on the market) you can create a shortcut to an FM radio app - there's one built in alright, just doesn't seem to have the hardware to go with it. It'll prompt you to insert headphones, but will never find channels or turn on.
Anyone know if the chipset actually supports it?
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Is there any update about it... ;-(( ????
In my EU version doesn't work , i tried the same and... nothing.
what a pity for this high class mobile.
Regards from Madrid
Hi
There is no FM radio on Razr...
But you can buy for exemple Sony MW600 device (it's a stereo bluetooth headset with integrated FM radio) for 40€... It's works fine with Razr...
Envoyé depuis mon Motorola Razr
Perhaps they are saving it for ICS?
I mean, why bother to make a gingerbread app for it when they have to do it again for ICS?
But then again, it is sloppy work... same with that NFC device they stuck in it which doesn't work.
It's not as if it's something new; back in the day, I bought two Motorola A925s with a really nice AGPS installed which turned out to be faulty on both (one never got fix, the other one was just dead) and was probably never meant to be used for something else than a marketing gimmick...
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Perhaps they are saving it for ICS?
I mean, why bother to make a gingerbread app for it when they have to do it again for ICS?
But then again, it is sloppy work... same with that NFC device they stuck in it which doesn't work.
It's not as if it's something new; back in the day, I bought two Motorola A925s with a really nice AGPS installed which turned out to be faulty on both (one never got fix, the other one was just dead) and was probably never meant to be used for something else than a marketing gimmick...
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There is no FM radio unit in the hardware at all...doesn't matter if it is ICS or Gingerbread...
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There is no FM radio unit in the hardware at all...doesn't matter if it is ICS or Gingerbread...
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It's still unconfirmed, last I checked. Pretty sure the RAZR's WiFi/GPS/BT chip does have FM capabilities, and is just lacking driver support. See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20133613 for further discussion on the chipset.
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It's still unconfirmed, last I checked. Pretty sure the RAZR's WiFi/GPS/BT chip does have FM capabilities, and is just lacking driver support. See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20133613 for further discussion on the chipset.
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Sorry, but WL1285 has no reference in the TI database. the Wilink 7 showing here is just WL1281/WL1283 chips....
How do you know whether WL1285 is not a custom made chip from TI to Moto.... and the validity to the iFixit's data can be questioned also..
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Sorry, but WL1285 has no reference in the TI database. the Wilink 7 showing here is just WL1281/WL1283 chips....
How do you know whether WL1285 is not a custom made chip from TI to Moto.... and the validity to the iFixit's data can be questioned also..
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The Chipworks teardowns clearly show both the Droid 3 and RAZR have the WL1285C chip, and the Droid 3 supports FM. Of course, the Droid 3's chip is labelled 2-WL1285C-13M1HH3, and the RAZR's is labelled WL1285C-19M0JZ3, so they may well be physically different revisions, it's certainly possible the RAZR lacks FM support entirely. I really don't think the information we have is conclusive enough to say "There is no FM radio unit in the hardware at all", though.
Don't know that this is what you're looking for but I use the app TuneIn Radio. Yeah, I know, it's internet-based.
However, with my Droid X I tried several "radio apps" but couldn't pull in a 100-watt FM station I listen to. Nothing worked with this ONE single station.
Now on the Razr, I've found the TuneIn Radio and it's all I need for my local station.
For those with Maxx battery tunein radio wouldn't hurt but a regular razr would die quickly without fm radio support.When we have unlocked bootloader, we can have the fm radio feature unlocked,too.
Tried a lot of radio apk, all failed to deliver signal and sound.
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When I bought my XT910 it comes with android 2.3.5 and FM radio works! I cleary remember my hard dilemma to install ICS with RSDlite or not. I knew that will lose FM and accept this. Now, I wonder is this was smart choice?
So, XT910 definitely have FM radio capability in hardware, just lack new drivers to support this. Bad choice from Moto to not implement this in android 4+
I just got an S3 and I'd like to ask if it is possible to listen to FM radio over Bluetooth.
i connect the standard headphones to enable the FM radio and the only option is to switch output between the headphones and the loud speaker.
I've seen cheap chinese android phones doing that, there should be a way.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, help me avoid selling my new toy
Sorry to say but it won't work. The reason (as the app itself already accurately describes in the error message) is that your headphone's cables are used as an antenna for the phone's FM receiver.
FM antenna's are actually quite big (at least compared to other antennas) even when using the so-called fractal design because they use a very slow (roughly 80 - 110 MHz, compared to e.g. WIFI's 2400MHz) frequency. To save space, Samsung moves them to the hedphones on all mobile phones I know of.
I don't know if it still works on S3 (never tried) but on the S1, if the station is broadcasting with enough signal strength, you could cut off the plug of old broken headphones and plug it into the phone to use the radio.
Afaik Spirit FM (now paid in all versions) can override the requirement but you'll need to press your finger to the jack so you can receive anything... pointless.
Alternatively you could use an app for internet radio such as TuneIn; most radio stations (at least all around here) provide web-streams for on-the-go radio listening. However you should make sure you got a decent internet flatrate, I managed to chew through nearly 4GB just with music streaming this month.
Most countries seem to have abolished mobile data flatrates.
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Sorry to say but it won't work. The reason (as the app itself already accurately describes in the error message) is that your headphone's cables are used as an antenna for the phone's FM receiver.
FM antenna's are actually quite big (at least compared to other antennas) even when using the so-called fractal design because they use a very slow (roughly 80 - 110 MHz, compared to e.g. WIFI's 2400MHz) frequency. To save space, Samsung moves them to the hedphones on all mobile phones I know of.
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The OP understands that the phone needs the cord to act as an antenna. I think what they simply want to know is if the phone can then route the sound to the bluetooth device instead of through the speakerphone or the headphones.
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d4fseeker I understand that the headphones should be connected since they serve as fm antenna. What i want is to listen to fm stations through bluetooth while the headphones are connected as bigb25 says.
TuneIn is not a solution for me since some stations I want are not available and cause I am a hiker internet is not always available where I go.
Maybe there is a fix or a different radio fm app?
OK quick test... plugged in 3.5mm - 3.5mm jack lead into headphone socket to act as the FM antenna and started the radio, selected sound to speaker and all worked fine. switched on Bluetooth headset no sound in headset, switched off sound to speakers still couldn't hear anything. Unplugged patch lead (this ends radio anyway) played an mp3from music player and sound returned to BT headset.
So unfortunately the answer is no you can't, as soon as you plug the anything into the headphone jack it cuts out the sound to any other device.
This may well be a mechanical switch within the headphone socket and so unlikely that there's a get around in a custom rom....but then I know nothing about roms
Nobody?
Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9300 met Tapatalk
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Nobody?
Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9300 met Tapatalk
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OK quick test... plugged in 3.5mm - 3.5mm jack lead into headphone socket to act as the FM antenna and started the radio, selected sound to speaker and all worked fine. switched on Bluetooth headset no sound in headset, switched off sound to speakers still couldn't hear anything. Unplugged patch lead (this ends radio anyway) played an mp3from music player and sound returned to BT headset.
So unfortunately the answer is no you can't, as soon as you plug the anything into the headphone jack it cuts out the sound to any other device.
This may well be a mechanical switch within the headphone socket and so unlikely that there's a get around in a custom rom....but then I know nothing about roms
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Afaik Spirit FM (now paid in all versions) can override the requirement but you'll need to press your finger to the jack so you can receive anything... pointless.
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The latest Free version of Spirit can always be found at the top of post 1 of my Q&A thread. See my sig.
My cheapest ($80) test phone gets good audio AND RDS with no antenna. Ironically it's the best of 12 operational test phones I have. It's a Samsung GT-i5500 with the great, sensitive new Broadcom 4330/20780 family of chips.
But yeah, my Galaxy S and S2 don't do very well with no antenna. My Galaxy Note does better. Haven't heard from anyone with an S3 yet. They all have the Si4709 FM chip, which has positives and negatives. Internal circuitry etc. makes a difference too.
And I can thank the very positive sales response I've had from S2 and Note owners for being able to buy these expensive devices for testing. I'll do everything I can to make Spirit run well on S3 and hope to buy one soon.
I have yet to find a phone that does FM over BT, except for a strange very low quality mode I have working on some BCM 4325 based devices.
If the FM can be done in the digital domain, instead of the more common analog, then in theory it should be possible to do FM over BT.
But then again, in theory the Galaxy S and S2 hardware are capable of FM record (digital). Yet the audio libraries don't seem to support it, and I think it'd be a major/infeasible job to hack the libraries for it.
The Note and I think the S3 can do FM record with stock audio libraries. So I think FM over BT on these devices is feasible, at least with stock ROMs and/or using stock libraries.
But on non-stock ROMs like CM9, the Note seems incapable of FM record.
Basically, if the stock ROM and stock FM app don't support FM over BT, then I think it's not EASILY possible.
If it could be made to work, there's no reason why a phone couldn't have a wired earphone plugged in at the same time that FM goes over BT. This might "confuse" the audio system though, which usually sends audio over a wired headset if one is plugged.
Then again, it's also possible to have a plug that's partly inserted (or maybe even wired creatively). Enough for antenna but not enough to push audio through the wired headset.
Thanks mikereidis.
I tried the free version, it plays only when the headphones are connected.
Do you think you could look at the possibility to send output to bluetooth?
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The latest Free version of Spirit can always be found at the top of post 1 of my Q&A thread. See my sig.
My cheapest ($80) test phone gets good audio AND RDS with no antenna. Ironically it's the best of 12 operational test phones I have. It's a Samsung GT-i5500 with the great, sensitive new Broadcom 4330/20780 family of chips.
But yeah, my Galaxy S and S2 don't do very well with no antenna. My Galaxy Note does better. Haven't heard from anyone with an S3 yet. They all have the Si4709 FM chip, which has positives and negatives. Internal circuitry etc. makes a difference too.
And I can thank the very positive sales response I've had from S2 and Note owners for being able to buy these expensive devices for testing. I'll do everything I can to make Spirit run well on S3 and hope to buy one soon.
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I have yet to find a phone that does FM over BT, except for a strange very low quality mode I have working on some BCM 4325 based devices.
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This dual active android phone does it: Star B79 Android 2.3.6 MTK6575 Smart 3G Phone 4.3"HD. I can not insert link cause of the ten posts limit but you can find it at aliexpress website
A colleague has it and I tried it just now and the quality is superb. And it is much cheaper comparing to the 730 Euro I gave to buy the SIII (greek retail price 32 GB version)
Actually this was the reason I switched from IOS to Android I mistakenly thought it was a default option in Android.
Also my ancient HTC diamond could do it with the help of a bluetooth utility but it woud often crash and quality was not good.
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The Note and I think the S3 can do FM record with stock audio libraries. So I think FM over BT on these devices is feasible, at least with stock ROMs and/or using stock libraries.
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Yeap SIII can do FM record
susersuser said:
Thanks mikereidis.
I tried the free version, it plays only when the headphones are connected.
Do you think you could look at the possibility to send output to bluetooth?
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Yes.
I have one person reporting success with my app on GS3 on CM9 June 19 now.
It only works one time though, then requires a reboot for the 2nd time.
This was with an experimental release I haven't made public yet.
I hope GS3's will be coming down at least $100 over the next month. $700 is pretty darn steep, even if it's got a leg up on the One X and One XL I bought recently for 570 and 500.
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I have one person reporting success with my app on GS3 on CM9 June 19 now.
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Great
susersuser said:
This dual active android phone does it: Star B79 Android 2.3.6 MTK6575 Smart 3G Phone 4.3"HD. I can not insert link cause of the ten posts limit but you can find it at aliexpress website
A colleague has it and I tried it just now and the quality is superb. And it is much cheaper comparing to the 730 Euro I gave to buy the SIII (greek retail price 32 GB version)
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That's very interesting; thanks for the info.
There are a variety of relatively inexpensive Chinese devices that have unique qualities, such as FM on an Android tablet, or digital TV tuner, or FM transmit I think.
But these devices are not widely available, or popular I think, in most Western countries. Information, source code and custom ROMs can be difficult to impossible to find.
As for Android: the audio systems can be kind of a big complicated mess. I don't think I've ever seen a single phone with an audio balance setting, among other things. But at least some Androids have "over the air" FM, whereas iPhone's have never had FM, despite years of rumors.
i am thinking of using one of these dongles though I doubt about the quality
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bluetooth...K_Computing_Networking_SM&hash=item4cffd98878
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i am thinking of using one of these dongles though I doubt about the quality
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bluetooth...K_Computing_Networking_SM&hash=item4cffd98878
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Kind of a drag to have a dongle hanging off though, in addition to the wired earphone for antenna.
There's been a lot of praise for the Sony MW600 Bluetooth stereo headset with built-in FM the last few years. Under $40 on EBay now.
I just ordered the apparent successor, the MW1 for $120 plus shipping the other day. It even has a music player built in, besides the FM and BT 3.0 support.
I need the A2DP headset because I think I'll be able to support FM over Bluetooth on some devices in the next few months, and I need something to test with.
MW1 seems interesting with many features but the price is ....
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I need the A2DP headset because I think I'll be able to support FM over Bluetooth on some devices in the next few months, and I need something to test with.
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I will be waiting for the new version
Not an exact solution, but you can get bluetooth headsets with built in FM radio.
eg: Sony-Ericsson-MW-600-Bluetooth-Headphones
mikereidis said:
I have one person reporting success with my app on GS3 on CM9 June 19 now.
It only works one time though, then requires a reboot for the 2nd time.
This was with an experimental release I haven't made public yet.
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The headphone jack has a part that senses when a headphone is inserted (the metal
in the headphone plug shorts it. It seems like you could make a plug that connects
to the metal of the ground pin (for the radio antenna) but isn't "inserted" so the phone
won't disable using BT.
Anyways, only i9300 will support FM, there is no way to get FM working with the Broadcom
chip in the US S3's. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31576462#post31576462
I use a sony ericson bluetooth headset that has built in fm radio works well.
Model MW600havent priced them in a while,should be under $50 by now.
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