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So i recently saw some info online regarding the droid x2. I currently am using a fascinate and regret every day giving up my droid x. LTE would be nice and was considering a bionic, and im not the biggest tech person and was pretty mich satisfied with my dx, what can I say hindsight is 20/20. But my question from what limited info people have seen regarding the dx2 is different from the original dx?
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Sen.droid said:
So i recently saw some info online regarding the droid x2. I currently am using a fascinate and regret every day giving up my droid x. LTE would be nice and was considering a bionic, and im not the biggest tech person and was pretty mich satisfied with my dx, what can I say hindsight is 20/20. But my question from what limited info people have seen regarding the dx2 is different from the original dx?
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there isnt anything solid about it yet
if you want solid info you have to wait for it to be announced and if you dont want to wait you should get the thunderbolt, imo its a really good phone(plus it has sense which is 100000000000X better than motoblur)
The dx2 is exactly the same as the Droid x except it has a 2gb class two SD card
from what i've heard (possibly just rumors), the droid x2 will have the tegra 2 processor and will be running on the 4g lte. i also heard that its got the new qhd screen. Again, these could be all rumors so don't bite my head off, that's just what i have read.
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from what i've heard (possibly just rumors), the droid x2 will have the tegra 2 processor and will be running on the 4g lte. i also heard that its got the new qhd screen. Again, these could be all rumors so don't bite my head off, that's just what i have read.
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I am certain that the dx2 is going to be on 3g but I'm not sure about the processor part
Unless virtually all of the suspected info about the Droid X2 is wrong, it's going to be a waste and Samsung/LG/HTC will be leaving it in the dust.
Frankly, it doesn't bother me, as I'm looking forward to going back to HTC at some point. I didn't think the locked bootloader on the DX would bother me much since root is the main issue, but it has; and even if HTC and everyone else locks them from here on out, it's Motorola that started it.
Just picked up the Droid X a few days ago. Man, I'm way behind.
I'll be interested to see what the actual outcome of the DX2 will be. A 3G only version doesn't seem quite right, but then again, I'm a new-comer to the whole smartphone thing.
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from what i've heard (possibly just rumors), the droid x2 will have the tegra 2 processor and will be running on the 4g lte. i also heard that its got the new qhd screen. Again, these could be all rumors so don't bite my head off, that's just what i have read.
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You're thinking of Droid Binoic.
Motorola Atrix and Motorola Xoom, Brother's of Droid X2, will be in the UK (at least on Orange) by June (Motorola state 2nd quarter 2011). It is amazing.
Currently have the razr, but considering a switch to the rezound. I don't care about the nexus. Just wondering what everybody else thinks.
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I like the razr but the rezound did finally get the boatloader unlocked.
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Good question. I've read many reviews of the Rezound and they are all positive except for size. Some like the extra heft, some loathe it. Seems like a solid phone though, plus it has an unlocked BL now.
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If the bootloader wasn't an issue I would stay with the razr for sure. I came from an evo where the development was endless. I think the development for the razr would probably out live the rezound if it wasn't for the dang thing being locked. Ugh...I can't make up my mind.
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I would stay with the razr myself, but that's just me.
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After using multiple HTC phones, including my current Incredible S running cm7, I have a deep distaste for HTC. Just my own opinions. So I won't even want to compare any top line HTC phones with other brands like Moto/Samsung.
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After using multiple HTC phones, including my current Incredible S running cm7, I have a deep distaste for HTC. Just my own opinions. So I won't even want to compare any top line HTC phones with other brands like Moto/Samsung.
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I like the build quality but hate the hardware.
Nothing a little CM can't fix.
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Why I prefer the Razr over the Rezound:
Display has much less glare
Much easier to see outside
Better touch response
Better contrast and brightness
Hot swap card
Webtop (Atrix lapdock rocks)
Better call quality
Faster performance
That said, if you are a kernel and ROM junky, the Razr will probably leave you cold turkey.
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I like the build quality but hate the hardware.
Nothing a little CM can't fix.
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Lol. Thanks for not bashing me for having my own preferences and opinions. There are some hardcore HTC lovers and fan boys out there who sweat by them.
I had a rezound razr and nexus. Ill put in my .02$
Rezound was nice, screen felt tiny even though it was 4.3". 720p LCD is great. Colors are great. Sense is either you love it or hate it. I hated it, and it was a big turn off. It is now unlockable which will just lead to more development. The phone was fat but felt great in the hand, unlike the thinness of the razr. Beats was just a marketing tool, nothing really special about it, should not be a deciding factor. Battery life was decent, not as good as bionic/razr however. Oh and sense made the phone lag from time to time, but like the above guy said, nothing a desensed or CM rom cant fix.
This was one of the first threads on the Rezound vs RAZR...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332652&highlight=rezound
Here's another with a video...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380197&highlight=rezound
Tbh as much as people whined about battery life on this phone, I refused to get one with a faster processor, bigger screen, AND smaller battery. Just wasn't doing it for me.
Everyone seems to like the Rezound with one exception... they all says its slow for its specs. It packs a 1.5ghz processor but only fares as well as 1ghz phone, or so they say.
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Currently have the razr, but considering a switch to the rezound. I don't care about the nexus. Just wondering what everybody else thinks.
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A brand from Taiwan is not comparable with USA's technology at all, razr is perfect
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I had a rezound razr and nexus. Ill put in my .02$
Rezound was nice, screen felt tiny even though it was 4.3". 720p LCD is great. Colors are great. Sense is either you love it or hate it. I hated it, and it was a big turn off. It is now unlockable which will just lead to more development. The phone was fat but felt great in the hand, unlike the thinness of the razr. Beats was just a marketing tool, nothing really special about it, should not be a deciding factor. Battery life was decent, not as good as bionic/razr however. Oh and sense made the phone lag from time to time, but like the above guy said, nothing a desensed or CM rom cant fix.
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Talk about the Nexus now. What brought you here again?
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I try and think of it this way... If all the devices had say CM7 on them which one would you want?
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I try and think of it this way... If all the devices had say CM7 on them which one would you want?
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Razr, because its build and call quality are superior.
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Razr, because its build and call quality are superior.
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+1 on that.
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This is just my experience of course. But I had two Rezounds before I got my RAZR. I did my research and the Rezound seemed to have the edge. First one's casing around the charging port jiggled. It was unsettling so I got a different one. The second one's call quality was so scrambled you could barely hear the other side. My family got a total of 5 Rezounds, and 3 had horrible call quality.
So finally I got the RAZR instead, and I'm so glad I switched. It never bogs down due to Sense, and call quality and signal are the best I've had on a phone. The screen resolution is a bit lower, but it's not noticeable. Actually it's nice having bigger text. And for build and call quality, speed, and battery life, the RAZR wins hands down in my experience.
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Ok I know I'm weird but i have all 3 devices. I've used each for at least 3 days or more and I'll throw in my 3 cents. For me I'll list in order of devices.
1 - The Razr 95%
2 - Rezound 85%
3 - Galazy Nexus - 45% (I think I'm giving that too high a mark really)
I should mention I've rooted all 3 and use them with heavy use with over 3000 contacts, GPS and lots of phone calls to my clients.
Razr - screen beautiful, Navigation gps locks in a nonosecond, volume is excellent, fast and just a pleasure to use and very light to hold. With 2 rooted apps (Battery Calibration and AutoKiller Memory Optimizer I'm getting almost 2 days with all my use!!! On the negative side I think the thin is great but I wish it was not so wide for my smaller hands. Quadrant score consistent over 2700 (I don't know if that means anything really but it is cool to blow everything out of the water)
Rezound - screen is very nice, smaller print etc so harder to read for my old eyes, not quite as brilliant as the Razr. Navigation GPS lock not as quick as the Razr but quick. Volume on par with the Razr and like the Razr all software works excellent. With 2 rooted apps (Battery Calibration and AutoKiller Memory Optimizer) I'm able to get about 18 hours on average so ok) Quadrant score consistent over 2100 - not bad. I Like the resound in my hand as it's not as wide but it weights like a small brick.
Galaxy Nexus - I was so thinking this would be bomb...but after several days of use it is a bomb and not in a good way. Navigation GPS takes forever, Volume is abysmal, I mean from 5 feet away you can hardly hear a ring or music...horrible. I have a motorola bluetooth headphones and with my phone in my pocket I get a silence every 5 seconds, unacceptable to say the least. With 2 rooted apps (Battery Calibration and AutoKiller Memory Optimizer) I was getting about 10 hours of use and for that reason alone it gets an F. Quadrant score about 1200 but again not sure that means much. But really its an F for me for almost all categories except Ice Cream Sandwich which is nice, but Gingerbread works just fine for me with the other 2 phones. Phone is wide like the Razr and the weight is in the middle of the Razr and the Rezound.
This review is just my opinion. The Galaxy I just sold on Ebay and I will not miss it at all. I'm keeping both the Razr and the Rezound and have for now trading off using each. Being able to flash roms on the Rezound is way fun and at the moment I'm on Ineffabilis ROM which has so many cool tweaks and that make me smile.
I hope this helps,
Cheers to you all...
Which ones better in your opinion? and what the battery life on the razr like?
Razr maxx > Gnex > Razr > SGS2
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Razr maxx > Gnex > Razr > SGS2
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LOL I wish i could get the razr maxx but its not an option with my carrier..
With those three phones I would choose the Gnex over the Razr because of the screensize and better support. I choose the Maxx because of the battery. The screen isn't as good but it is comparable in many ways and the support for the Razr is improving but will never be as good as the Gnex. I also had a Captivate for 1 1/2 years so I wanted to try something other than Samsung.
Surprisingly, neither the gnex nor the razr sell well in my store. (damn iphone).
Obviously for battery life, the MAXX pwns the rest, but I agree with the support base for the gnex and if you've ran ICS on the razr (even half-baked as it is right now) you know it was worth the wait.
galaxy nexus has a really bad battery..i have razr and in terms of speed the razr is same as gnex...only screen is better on galaxy nexus but razr has even better screen than samsung galaxy s2..!i had galaxy nexus and samsung galaxy s2 and now i am with motorola razr...for me the best and winner is razr,it has nice quality build,waterproof,slim and battery is really good,with normal use i get 2 days without charging the battery..google nexus has for me the worst battery ever,12 hours doing nothing and battery already dead and the most stupid thing is that it needed always 3.5 hours to fully charge same as samsung galaxy s2..of curse the most important for me was the camera...hmm yes galaxy s2 has better camera than razr BUT it always stutter omg same thing i faced on gnex and i said what the hell is wrong with samsung cameras?now with razr even camera is super for me with stabilization without any stuttering like samsungs i had...!
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i am really a gadget geek...
i had 3 different samsung galaxy s2...1 used for a week in black color,gave it for iphone 4s which i hated it much already then again back to S2 in white color used it for 3 weeks and gave it for gnex which i used it a week and again back to S2..all had camera stuttering for me and bad battery so i decided to try Razr..and here i am..Rock you like a hurricane as you see i found happines
best voice quality both incoming and outgoing is RAZR, head and shoulders above. that's why i have one. i have to have professional conversations on my phone and cannot afford to not be understood. Samsung phones are for teenagers and people without real lives.
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Surprisingly, neither the gnex nor the razr sell well in my store. (damn iphone).
Obviously for battery life, the MAXX pwns the rest, but I agree with the support base for the gnex and if you've ran ICS on the razr (even half-baked as it is right now) you know it was worth the wait.
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So how good is ICS beta on Razr? I personally have not tried it.
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So how good is ICS beta on Razr? I personally have not tried it.
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It is good for the most part. Slightly laggy because hardware acceleration still isn't optimized, but it isn't terrible enough for me to complain. I read that FFC has been fixed, it just hasn't been baked into all ICS roms yet. I was on ICS with my Captivate since the first port in November and I just couldn't take being back on Gingerbread with this phone. It has been really good and it will get better because the support is really great.
The support for the RAZR/RAZR MAXX is more than what people think. Sadly the community is spread across multiple sites, but the RAZR has plenty of ROM's and flashables to optimize speed, looks, and functionality.
I see it the same
RAZR MAXX > gNEX > RAZR > SGS2
gNEX has it beat with custom kernels and open bootloader, and also the screen size. Honestly because those 2 factors, the MAXX has it beat on all other fronts.
Stronger radio, battery, stronger build (gorilla glass, water resistant), and of course battery life. Both phones have nearly identical CPU, GPU, and same RAM -- so performance wise they should be identical.
Anyway.. just my take on it
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It is good for the most part. Slightly laggy because hardware... I just couldn't take being back on Gingerbread with this phone. It has been really good and it will get better because the support is really great.
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Ya, I've been doing a lot of thinking about this qlitchy razr xt912. Just stepped into the pressing 6.11.748 update, still hoping for a smoother operation.
So my question is in part, what is all this hype about the ics? Less bloat? I'm considering doing myself a favor and freezing some of all this crap on my current os.
so what's ics really gonna do for any of us? Just more bloat that we'll have to freeze & remove to have an awesome phone? Sounds like a hassle, that I never woulda expected from Android ... windows, yes... but not Android.
The ics roms have zero bloat and it is much better than gingerbread. It is better in every aspect.
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My friends have all phones mentioned and I have the razr, and everytime I show my phone off to someone new they fall in love with it.
This phone has quality surrounding it. Sound Quality is exceptional on phone calls and music. The screen is bright, and you can get ICS for all the devices mentioned so really that point is mute.
I would get the razr maxx over all the rest for the great battery life.
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Hey everyone,
I'm currently rocking a SGS2 i9100 International edition and 'm just getting tired of the battery life or lack there off. I love the tons of ROMs but to be honest I'm getting tired of the lack of stability and battery life. I just want a stable setup, great reception, pretty good camera and most importantly BATTERY LIFE!!
Most i9100 extended batteries are soo small and all the large ones end up being some cheapie far east crap that has a much lower rating.
So here are my Questions for you guys (I will also search the forums for answers)
How awesome is the battery for light-medium users?
Is the boot loader thing still an issue?
Can the phone be rooted/s-offed or whatever the term is for the RAZR?
How is the ROM support for ICS? Is GB better?
Is there a lot of development for this phone still or do you guys notice it's waning?
How's the camera/video on the phone?
How's the reception for calls and speakers? (I find my old Moto Razr V3 to still have better reception than my SGS2 and better sound too)
How's the accessories market for these?
Any flaws, issues, comments and advice concerning this phone?
Thanks for any help possible!
*goes to search the forum as well.
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Thanks for any help possible!
*goes to search the forum as well.
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I sold my beloved GSM Galaxy Nexus for this phone. I loved the Nexus and Jelly Bean, stock, etc, but grew tired of toting two batteries with me. That and grew tired of low audio on ringers and the speakerphone. The GSM RAZR MAXX has totally fixed these issues and I've found ICS to be perfectly fine for daily use. JB is great and all, but the phone hardware, call quality, and battery life have made be a believer.
In short, I don't miss stock Google and my GNEX at all. Buy one.
[*] How awesome is the battery for light-medium users?
Easily cruises through an entire day with heavy use.
[*] Is the boot loader thing still an issue?
I don't know since I only flashed an ICS leak. I'm not into the ROM scene any more (maybe I grew up?). ICS stock is perfectly fine.
[*] Can the phone be rooted/s-offed or whatever the term is for the RAZR?
See above.
[*] How is the ROM support for ICS? Is GB better?
ICS stock is great. GB feels very old, so flash ICS on day one.
[*] Is there a lot of development for this phone still or do you guys notice it's waning?
Don't care at this point.
[*] How's the camera/video on the phone?
Typical phone quality. Ok for snapshots, not for billboard size photos and wedding photos.
[*] How's the reception for calls and speakers? (I find my old Moto Razr V3 to still have better reception than my SGS2 and better sound too)
Incredible. I get 4 bars in my basement and no dropped calls. On my GSM GNEX, I had 0/1 bar and dropped calls like crazy. The "sidetone" on Motorolas is awesome (ala home phones).
[*] How's the accessories market for these?
Ok I guess. Pick up a navigation dock for around $30 and an Atrix Webtop for ~$60. Accessories are cheap because its not the hot sexy new phone any more.
[*] Any flaws, issues, comments and advice concerning this phone?
None that I see.
See that's perfect. I too am getting tired of all these SGS2 roms and their inherit flaws/stability. I'm over ROms too because I've outgrown it. I just want a fully unlocked phone so that I don't have any limitation.
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See that's perfect. I too am getting tired of all these SGS2 roms and their inherit flaws/stability. I'm over ROms too because I've outgrown it. I just want a fully unlocked phone so that I don't have any limitation.
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That's the thing I agree with you. My brother still has his sgs i9000 and its driving me nuts with ****ed up roms and unstable ****. I am glad I got rid of mine
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That's the thing I agree with you. My brother still has his sgs i9000 and its driving me nuts with ****ed up roms and unstable ****. I am glad I got rid of mine
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Yeah - I'm still looking for a MAXX but it's seemingly hard to find one. Anyone else got any advice?
Have a look at the official Battery Extender pack from Samsung for its Samsung Galaxy Nexus. The Nexus keeps it nice looks and has a big battery. Just like the razr maxx.
The hardware of the GNex is superior (better camera (note that this means 8 mpx > 5 mpx Oh, and by the way: 5 mpx Pictures are smaller than 8 mpx pictures, that's why they can be saved faster), bigger display, battery replaceable) and most importantly:
The software isn't bloated, old, slow or locked.
I own a Motorola Razr right now and it has very nice hardware. It looks awesome (especially in white) and isn't that expensive.
But the software... Dear god... bloated, locked, old, way too late updates from Motorola (only for US customers on time and even they had to wait for a long time), no custom roms (with some tools they are possible, but there are always some essential issues with those workarounds).
As I received my regular razr, I was pretty happy, it was fast (was GB 2.3, ICS is fast too if you unbloat it(!)), it has nice battery life (about 5-8 hours with very heavy usage and I'm talking about the regular razr, so the maxx has to be amazing) and that's why I started to think about a razr maxx. Battery life? Sure I want that!
But I will sell my razr, get a Nexus and will have nearly the same features as a razr maxx has. This will cost me some bucks more, but I will get updates way faster and longer. If google stops support for the Nexus, the unlocked bootloader will allow to install newer custom roms and therefore the latest android version. With Motorola, this is NOT the case. If Motorola says 4.0.4 was the last update, you're stuck with 4.0.4 forever or you use tools to work around these locks. But the issues raised by those tools and workarounds, destroy the hardware superiority of the razr next to other devices (you get less RAM that you really have, blame Moto!)... So... why a razr then?
- old software
- late updates and you're stuck with what you get
- bloated with so much software preinstalled and consuming precious RAM (can only be removed with root aka. tinkering with your phone for eventually a long time)
- bad camera (there is even a thread about this topic on here somewhere)
- with the latest ICS update even the webtop got removed and replaced by a standard ICS tablet mode UI (which is to be honest very good IMHO - but that's not a webtop anymore (as they advertised it), so that feature got taken (remember, you get what Motorola gives you with this phone)
tl;dr: Do NOT get a razr (maxx) and look for something like a google experience phone (e.g. GNexus). I am a razr owner and STRONGLY recommend to get another phone (because of the software - which is a shame, blame Moto).
EDIT: I have to be fair and add: GB and ICS from Motorola were and are very stable. I get very long uptimes with my razr. But again: It's slow if you don't mess with it. And if somebody says it's not slow: It's also not as fast as it could be, not as battery saving as it could be, so the bloat DEFINITELY disturbs the performance of the razr.
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Have a look at the official Battery Extender pack from Samsung for its Samsung Galaxy Nexus. The Nexus keeps it nice looks and has a big battery. Just like the razr maxx.
The hardware of the GNex is superior (better camera (note that this means 8 mpx > 5 mpx Oh, and by the way: 5 mpx Pictures are smaller than 8 mpx pictures, that's why they can be saved faster), bigger display, battery replaceable) and most importantly:
The software isn't bloated, old, slow or locked.
I own a Motorola Razr right now and it has very nice hardware. It looks awesome (especially in white) and isn't that expensive.
But the software... Dear god... bloated, locked, old, way too late updates from Motorola (only for US customers on time and even they had to wait for a long time), no custom roms (with some tools they are possible, but there are always some essential issues with those workarounds).
As I received my regular razr, I was pretty happy, it was fast (was GB 2.3, ICS is fast too if you unbloat it(!)), it has nice battery life (about 5-8 hours with very heavy usage and I'm talking about the regular razr, so the maxx has to be amazing) and that's why I started to think about a razr maxx. Battery life? Sure I want that!
But I will sell my razr, get a Nexus and will have nearly the same features as a razr maxx has. This will cost me some bucks more, but I will get updates way faster and longer. If google stops support for the Nexus, the unlocked bootloader will allow to install newer custom roms and therefore the latest android version. With Motorola, this is NOT the case. If Motorola says 4.0.4 was the last update, you're stuck with 4.0.4 forever or you use tools to work around these locks. But the issues raised by those tools and workarounds, destroy the hardware superiority of the razr next to other devices (you get less RAM that you really have, blame Moto!)... So... why a razr then?
- old software
- late updates and you're stuck with what you get
- bloated with so much software preinstalled and consuming precious RAM (can only be removed with root aka. tinkering with your phone for eventually a long time)
- bad camera (there is even a thread about this topic on here somewhere)
- with the latest ICS update even the webtop got removed and replaced by a standard ICS tablet mode UI (which is to be honest very good IMHO - but that's not a webtop anymore (as they advertised it), so that feature got taken (remember, you get what Motorola gives you with this phone)
tl;dr: Do NOT get a razr (maxx) and look for something like a google experience phone (e.g. GNexus). I am a razr owner and STRONGLY recommend to get another phone (because of the software - which is a shame, blame Moto).
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Thanks for the super insightful reply. That's what I wanted to hear. I will look into the GNEX.
Well I sold my GSM GNEX for the GSM RAZR MAXX, so yeah. Software is key, but not if you are changing batteries by 4pm.
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Well I sold my GSM GNEX for the GSM RAZR MAXX, so yeah. Software is key, but not if you are changing batteries by 4pm.
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True true. I'm also looking to try some new hardware and see how the reception is better with the razr.
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Well I sold my GSM GNEX for the GSM RAZR MAXX, so yeah. Software is key, but not if you are changing batteries by 4pm.
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That's why I already linked the battery extension from Samsung itself. The razr maxx will eventually still have a bigger battery than the GNex, but maybe the big pack from Samsung will already be big enough for djpharoah.
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True true. I'm also looking to try some new hardware and see how the reception is better with the razr.
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To the reception:
3G and 2G (I'm talking about the EU GSM version) reception is very good, better than most other smartphones I know of or owned.
WiFi reception is okay. It is okay if you don't cover the lower right corner of the razr. If you cover it (e.g. holding it only in the right hand in vertical mode), the reception get's very bad - another thing that deeply disappointed me. I had good reception with my earlier phones (Palm Pre and LG Optimus 2x) when I stood in front of my house. With the razr, I don't get any signal, especially if I'm holding it in my right hand. Sometimes I get disconnects IN the house (never happened before). But I have to say, that this didn't bother me so much. Google this topic, you'll see that I'm not the only one experiencing this problem.
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That's why I already linked the battery extension from Samsung itself. The razr maxx will eventually still have a bigger battery than the GNex, but maybe the big pack from Samsung will already be big enough for djpharoah.
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That extended battery is a small bump in mAh and really only provides a slight advantage over the stock battery. Yes, it's better, but not close to double as is the MAXX battery.
But I'm not arguing my point (not my intent). The GNEX is a fine phone, but that extended battery won't work miracles. It's a marginal improvement in reality. You are better off carrying a spare original battery in your pocket (as I did when I had my GNEX). It's mildly annoying but will get you through a day of normal (not heavy) use. The extended battery will require a second for all day use anyway, so there's that.
...and the extended battery will only fit the Verizon GNEX (I am assuming the OP has Verizon?). On that note, the Verizon GNEX is really bad vs. the GSM version. Poor connectivity, terrible battery (compared to the GSM GNEX) just to start.
But what do I know? I have AT&T. Guess I've just read enough complaints about the CDMA GNEX vs. the RAZR MAXX to have the opinion that the RAZR is the better device.
Edit: I see the OP's title (GSM), so no Verizon GNEX. The extended battery you linked will not work with the GSM GNEX.
hihipunkt said:
Have a look at the official Battery Extender pack from Samsung for its Samsung Galaxy Nexus. The Nexus keeps it nice looks and has a big battery. Just like the razr maxx.
The hardware of the GNex is superior (better camera (note that this means 8 mpx > 5 mpx Oh, and by the way: 5 mpx Pictures are smaller than 8 mpx pictures, that's why they can be saved faster), bigger display, battery replaceable) and most importantly:
The software isn't bloated, old, slow or locked.
I own a Motorola Razr right now and it has very nice hardware. It looks awesome (especially in white) and isn't that expensive.
But the software... Dear god... bloated, locked, old, way too late updates from Motorola (only for US customers on time and even they had to wait for a long time), no custom roms (with some tools they are possible, but there are always some essential issues with those workarounds).
As I received my regular razr, I was pretty happy, it was fast (was GB 2.3, ICS is fast too if you unbloat it(!)), it has nice battery life (about 5-8 hours with very heavy usage and I'm talking about the regular razr, so the maxx has to be amazing) and that's why I started to think about a razr maxx. Battery life? Sure I want that!
But I will sell my razr, get a Nexus and will have nearly the same features as a razr maxx has. This will cost me some bucks more, but I will get updates way faster and longer. If google stops support for the Nexus, the unlocked bootloader will allow to install newer custom roms and therefore the latest android version. With Motorola, this is NOT the case. If Motorola says 4.0.4 was the last update, you're stuck with 4.0.4 forever or you use tools to work around these locks. But the issues raised by those tools and workarounds, destroy the hardware superiority of the razr next to other devices (you get less RAM that you really have, blame Moto!)... So... why a razr then?
- old software
- late updates and you're stuck with what you get
- bloated with so much software preinstalled and consuming precious RAM (can only be removed with root aka. tinkering with your phone for eventually a long time)
- bad camera (there is even a thread about this topic on here somewhere)
- with the latest ICS update even the webtop got removed and replaced by a standard ICS tablet mode UI (which is to be honest very good IMHO - but that's not a webtop anymore (as they advertised it), so that feature got taken (remember, you get what Motorola gives you with this phone)
tl;dr: Do NOT get a razr (maxx) and look for something like a google experience phone (e.g. GNexus). I am a razr owner and STRONGLY recommend to get another phone (because of the software - which is a shame, blame Moto).
EDIT: I have to be fair and add: GB and ICS from Motorola were and are very stable. I get very long uptimes with my razr. But again: It's slow if you don't mess with it. And if somebody says it's not slow: It's also not as fast as it could be, not as battery saving as it could be, so the bloat DEFINITELY disturbs the performance of the razr.
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Can you give me the link for the topic about the camera?
I don't think Motorola will stop the update so easily, as Google owns Motorola for now...
Stock Motorola Rom has a lot of problems like bloatwares?
I'm thinking of getting this phone too.
ZRong223 said:
Can you give me the link for the topic about the camera?
I don't think Motorola will stop the update so easily, as Google owns Motorola for now...
Stock Motorola Rom has a lot of problems like bloatwares?
I'm thinking of getting this phone too.
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What has changed now that Google owns Moto? Has anything changed? Unlocked bootloaders? easier to get updates??
Also what's the camera issue?
Google bought Motorola for it's patents, not to immediately turn all Moto phones into hackable devices.
So the only thing that's changed is Google's patent portfolio got bigger.
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Google bought Motorola for it's patents, not to immediately turn all Moto phones into hackable devices.
So the only thing that's changed is Google's patent portfolio got bigger.
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Right - that's what everyone says. But as of now I'm only noticing 4-5 ICS Roms for the RAZR and is that because it's hard to get a ROM going on the phone due to restrictions or just that these ROMs are so stable and awesome that the RAZR audience seens no reason to mess about?
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Right - that's what everyone says. But as of now I'm only noticing 4-5 ICS Roms for the RAZR and is that because it's hard to get a ROM going on the phone due to restrictions or just that these ROMs are so stable and awesome that the RAZR audience seens no reason to mess about?
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Some developers already switched to other devices (like the maker of the ROM I'm currently using (Epsilon)). The only usable/not bugged versions are just debloated and customized Moto stock roms. They work good though.
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What has changed now that Google owns Moto? Has anything changed? Unlocked bootloaders? easier to get updates??
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Nothing really. It's rumored, that the next Moto devices (razr HD?) will have an unlocked bootloader. But for current phones, nothing really changed.
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Also what's the camera issue?
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Can you give me the link for the topic about the camera?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1834550&highlight=camera
I already gave you a link to a GSMArena comparison tool (click the image on the left over the text to view other parts in detail on the right)
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I don't think Motorola will stop the update so easily, as Google owns Motorola for now...
Stock Motorola Rom has a lot of problems like bloatwares?
I'm thinking of getting this phone too.
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It's overloaded with bloatware. It's still usable, but it destroys so much potential of the phone. If you unbloat it, it's fast too.
And I honestly don't think, that Googles ownership of Moto will change anything related to updates. I doubt, that the razr will get Android 5. It's still far ahead, but a device that costs hundreds of €/$ and doesn't get updates? The iPhone 3GS released in 2009 got the latest iOS. The razr got out in November last year and is already outdated and no update in sight. Moto didn't even say a single word about JB for the razr.
Remember: It's not only about features, also about security. Old Android versions don't get security updates. Nobody uses Windows XP without any security updates and surfs the web. (Nearly) everyone knows that this would be suicide. On mobile phones, nobody cares all of the sudden.
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That extended battery is a small bump in mAh and really only provides a slight advantage over the stock battery. Yes, it's better, but not close to double as is the MAXX battery.
But I'm not arguing my point (not my intent). The GNEX is a fine phone, but that extended battery won't work miracles. It's a marginal improvement in reality. You are better off carrying a spare original battery in your pocket (as I did when I had my GNEX). It's mildly annoying but will get you through a day of normal (not heavy) use. The extended battery will require a second for all day use anyway, so there's that.
...and the extended battery will only fit the Verizon GNEX (I am assuming the OP has Verizon?). On that note, the Verizon GNEX is really bad vs. the GSM version. Poor connectivity, terrible battery (compared to the GSM GNEX) just to start.
But what do I know? I have AT&T. Guess I've just read enough complaints about the CDMA GNEX vs. the RAZR MAXX to have the opinion that the RAZR is the better device.
Edit: I see the OP's title (GSM), so no Verizon GNEX. The extended battery you linked will not work with the GSM GNEX.
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Oh, I didn't know that. But there's also an extended battery for the GSM version: Samsung EB-K1F2KBUGSTD
I was given the option to switch? What should I do? I am getting really desperate because of no root on my DNA!? Is there any other phones on Verizon I should look towards?
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I was given the option to switch? What should I do? I am getting really desperate because of no root on my DNA!? Is there any other phones on Verizon I should look towards?
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Galaxy s4 at the end of the month. Pretty sure it will see more action than the DNA. Though DNA imo is probably better.
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The only better spec on the razr is probably the battery it has nothing on the dna.
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In all fairness, the Razr Maxx has twice the internal memory, option for an SD card, quicker updates from Motorola, better radios and currently an unlocked bootloader option. As for screen resolution, smoothness (quad-core plus twice the ram), camera and features the DNA wins in those categories.
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Ummm... No....
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I've owned both. The battery life is immensely great on the maxx. But it being locked down like the dna was horrible. Motoblur is kept to a minimum. While Rom speed ends up slow due to the lacking dual core. The moto doesn't have anything resembling a task manager so the phone becomes quick overrun by rogue apps robbing memory. It does have a decent radio but the lte radios were horrible. I had a unique problem the other razr owners had. Dust would accumulate in the headphone port cause it not to switch AT ALL. The Maxx is a decent phone. But the HTC has a better radio and reception, faster processor and a better camera. However. The maxx had a better microphone for videos. I have comparison videos I could post if you'd like. But. I chose the DNA.
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rsims26 said:
In all fairness, the Razr Maxx has twice the internal memory, option for an SD card, quicker updates from Motorola, better radios and currently an unlocked bootloader option. As for screen resolution, smoothness (quad-core plus twice the ram), camera and features the DNA wins in those categories.
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How do you know that the radios are better? "Because its a Motorola" is not a valid answer.
OP, the razr HD is even wider than the DNA. It is difficult to use with one hand.
Sad to know that specwise. The RAZR. Is/mighthavebeen the thinnest phone on the market. I got better reception on my DNA than I ever did on the maxx. It would also heat up quite a bit whereas the DNA is slightly warm? And only hot with my wireless charger. The razr used to heat up even in a long phone call which made it almost unbearable to hold on your face. I also had to send my RAZR in for a refurb. Vibe motor became disconnected from the mobo and rattled in the phone. Except the razr had a very strong vibe motor. The colors and screen quality got better with the JB update it got. However in lowlight settings the physical manufacturing limits of the screen left black splotches that with time will expand and move about the screen. You cannot see these under high brightness. 3 razr maxx's and one friends razr all had this issue so its not limited to batch runs. I can imagine they improved this with the newer HD version but I can't atest to it. The motorola hardware is SOLID. But the software that moto overlays can be cumbersome. At least HTC always tests sense. Even on a 5-600mhz Qualcomm the sense doesn't lag. I can keep answering any questions you have. I'm very very picky. My DNA headphone port plastic chipped away one day. But. I still have my charge door. I don't plug in.
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If you're at all used to the speed, display, and smoove operating on the DNA, the Maxx HD will be a difficult pill to swallow. I went that route and had real trouble getting over the screen; there is absolutely no comparison to the DNA and the DNA wins hands down. The second thing I noticed on the Maxx HD was the lag that creeps up and bites you on the @ss. At first I didn't think it was any big deal. As time went on however, the lag got worse and worse until I finally said, "Enough!". At one point I was using TiB to reboot the phone for me every night just to clear things out.
I gave up the stellar battery life for a phone I'm in love with. IMHO there isn't anything out there which compares to the DNA; my only desire would be a bigger battery, but there are tradeoffs to be considered. I've learned to live with the battery life using a combo of carefully monitoring specific app battery consumption and using a wireless charger. I'm sure there are people who have gone this route and decided to stick with the Maxx HD or some other phone for their own personal priorities.
With the launch of the S4 and the One I'm sure they will rival the DNA in many areas. However I don't know if they'll usurp the DNA in my daily usage, that remains to be seen. Good luck with your choice!
==ETA==
Reception: My wife has never before commented on my phones and their reception. However when I started using the DNA she said, "Your phone sounds a lot clearer than it has in the past. Have you been somewhere other than your normal place for talking to me while at work?" I've noticed the DNA is as good or better than the Moto for reception and voice quality; IMHO that's not at all a reason to give up the DNA.
rsims26 said:
In all fairness, the Razr Maxx has twice the internal memory, option for an SD card, quicker updates from Motorola, better radios and currently an unlocked bootloader option. As for screen resolution, smoothness (quad-core plus twice the ram), camera and features the DNA wins in those categories.
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As a Moto owner (Bionic) I find it interesting that you think updates come quicker for Motorola than for HTC. Its not the brand, its VZW!
On a side note, I'm considering the DNA as a replacement for my Bionic. I'm mainly concerned that I'll be switching from one red-headed step-child to another! Currently waiting to see what happens with the HTC One before I make my decision.
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As a Moto owner (Bionic) I find it interesting that you think updates come quicker for Motorola than for HTC. Its not the brand, its VZW!
On a side note, I'm considering the DNA as a replacement for my Bionic. I'm mainly concerned that I'll be switching from one red-headed step-child to another! Currently waiting to see what happens with the HTC One before I make my decision.
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Dude, your Bionic just got JB! You should be happy. :good:
I work for Verizon and I have the DNA as my personal phone and the Razr Maxx HD as my work phone. I can tell you I like both I don't think either is bad but there are pros a cons. for me I like the 32GB of internal and up to 64GB MicroSD card support on the Razr. I love the battery on the Razr like 2 to 3 days with good usage. however cons horrible camera. The dual core lags and the phone freezes more for me. also the screen is no where near as good. also I and I will get a lot that disagree actually like Sense over motoblur. Mind you I have Sense 5. Also I love the wireless charging in the DNA. Personally I am waiting I have heard we are getting a DNA+ soon and S4 is coming amongst a few others.
azndan2 said:
How do you know that the radios are better? "Because its a Motorola" is not a valid answer.
OP, the razr HD is even wider than the DNA. It is difficult to use with one hand.
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"Because it's a motorola" is a completely valid answer. They have *never* been good at tuning radios for use on VZW's network. It's always been crap, from the OG Droid to the new RAZR line, and the Bionic was a massive failure in that category, worse than others. The only thing Motorola knows how to do is build decent material-quality handsets. Everything else about them is less than sub par.
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In all fairness, the Razr Maxx has twice the internal memory, option for an SD card, quicker updates from Motorola, better radios and currently an unlocked bootloader option. As for screen resolution, smoothness (quad-core plus twice the ram), camera and features the DNA wins in those categories.
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The updates come *way* quicker from HTC than Motorola, some of them don't even come at all from Motorola.
eakeller said:
Dude, your Bionic just got JB! You should be happy. :good:
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I "should" be happy, except that I'm running CM10.1, so I haven't even bothered with the JB update. To be honest, I was really surprised that they even pushed the JB update out. It took forever to get ICS, and don't forget all the radio issues with the Bionic.
Still, I can (and may) upgrade next month. Not totally happy with any of the options at this point, so I may hold on a little longer. I've even contemplated buying a used phone and leaving my contract as-is for now in case I get totally frustrated with VZW and decide to jump ship.
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I "should" be happy, except that I'm running CM10.1, so I haven't even bothered with the JB update. To be honest, I was really surprised that they even pushed the JB update out. It took forever to get ICS, and don't forget all the radio issues with the Bionic.
Still, I can (and may) upgrade next month. Not totally happy with any of the options at this point, so I may hold on a little longer. I've even contemplated buying a used phone and leaving my contract as-is for now in case I get totally frustrated with VZW and decide to jump ship.
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I was pretty surprised about the JB as well; I think Moto is trying to make up for the bad mojo created early in the life of that device. Back in the day I went through a couple of them and agonized over terrible radios, poor battery life, a year before an official ICS was released, bad camera, etc...you know the drill. I couldn't handle it and jumped ship for a GNex (at the time).
Regarding not upgrading, I highly recommend sticking with the used market and leaving the contract alone or going month-to-month. Especially since VZW pushed the upgrade cycle from 18mo. to 24mo., even the economics of upgrading don't make a whole lot of sense to me. Of course I'm grandfathered in to unlimited data so they can pry that out of my cold, dead hands. The secondary market really isn't bad, and it's especially safe on eBay. Generally you can catch a price break on CL, but there are a lot of shady characters pushing some bad deals - if you know what to look out for though, it can be navigated.
Good luck with your choice, and with whatever device you choose next.
Motorola X Phone may be a good choice
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Motorola X Phone may be a good choice
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If it ever comes... and will it end up being the next Bionic? Remember, that was supposed to come out in Feb 2011, but was delayed until Sept. Then the RAZR showed up just before Christmas!
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If it ever comes... and will it end up being the next Bionic? Remember, that was supposed to come out in Feb 2011, but was delayed until Sept. Then the RAZR showed up just before Christmas!
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True. Then again what real staying power does any king of the hill have? Only until the next younger, stronger, smarter, faster, better looking, more nimble, blah, blah, blah....shows up. In all seriousness, I am really impressed with the way the Bionic hardware and build can still almost keep up with the current pack. Says a lot about Moto, at least Moto ca. 2010.
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True. Then again what real staying power does any king of the hill have? Only until the next younger, stronger, smarter, faster, better looking, more nimble, blah, blah, blah....shows up. In all seriousness, I am really impressed with the way the Bionic hardware and build can still almost keep up with the current pack. Says a lot about Moto, at least Moto ca. 2010.
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Very good point. So my real question, and reason for posting in this thread, is to find out if the DNA might be the next phone to do the same... Although I have my concerns about the fixed internal battery and lack of microSD.
I had a RMHD bought through Bestbuy. I loved the build and feel of it, the battery was amazing , but the thing that pushed me away was the horrible lag and screen redraws. It drove me crazy. Now having had a Note 2 which for me was too large, I decided to switch to the DNA last Saturday and am pretty happy so far. Size and speed are great , battery is decent (nowhere near RMHD or N2) but fine for my usage. Bought the wireless charger and like it also. That's just my experience. Had the RMHD not lagged so much I would have gone with it .
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