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I just picked up my gtablet yesterday and have been spending my time installing tnt lite and installing several apps. I bought it because when I go on trips I wanted something that could browse the net, and play videos. I installed RockPlayer and put a 720p mkv file onto the machine, however playback is very choppy and its almost like the device cannot handle it. I know that several people have gotten 1080p to work good, and I am wondering if there is a setting that needs to be enabled to make 720p work better? I did some digging and saw that someone said to edit a line in the build.prop file (set the media.stagefright.enable from true to false), but I cannot edit my build.prop file. And I am not entirely sure that this will fix the problem. Are 720p videos playable on this machine?
What profile did you render the movies in? Try changing the MKV extension to AVI... Sometimes some renderers treat containers differently even though they are using the same codecs.
just tried to rename the extension from .mkv to .avi and still same choppiness and eventually the videos stops playing all together. I am not sure what rendering is, but the file is encoded AAC 2.0 H264
h264 is not the issue, it's what profile its encoded in
I have this in my FAQ section (in my sig). h264 is supported, but the Tegra 2 cannot handle h264 encoded in high profile. It can handle main profile.
This is confusing to people. So, what I would recommend is to download the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and it will show you how your videos are encoded.
As for container support, I think MP4 plays a little better than MKV, but Rockplayer (in the Market) seems to be able to handle MKV and using hardware acceleration. Again, as long as it's h264 main profile.
This is not just an issue with the GTab - all the Tegra 2 devices will have this issue as its a limitation of the chipset, or so I've read. Vega, Folio, even the mysterious Adam will probably have this same limitation.
Reference on h264 and main / high profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Yeah, that's the tricky part. I haven't been able to figure that out yet, although granted I haven't put much time into it. I think these "profiles" depend on how you encode and which tool you use.
If you try the Tron Legacy trailers, they are 1080p but main profile. A good example of how nice videos can look on it, when encoded the right way.
I have to play around more with something like ffmpeg to see if I can pin this down. Another reason for transcoding is to keep the sizes down, since we have the 4GB FAT32 file size limitation to deal with. Yuk.
I've incoded a 1080p high profile to main. sound was in and out then tryed a few things and lost sound. Video played great anyways.
I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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Could be a lower screen resolution that full 720p (not all 720p's are alike).
I also read today that Tegra 2 720p should work in high profile, but 1080p definitely does not. But, Android itself might be limiting even 720p, so it's a crap shoot.
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
Ok, makes sense. I do the same thing using upnplay and my server. Thought you were wanting them on the tablet.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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A two hour 720p movie runs ~4GB, so it's close to the limit in FAT32. And you could easily go over the limit when encoding, which would require you to break the file up. Annoying.
The problem here is that none of the vendors want to agree on a replacement file system for portable devices (wow, no surprise there). MS wants exFAT, the open source community would prefer EXT3/4, and I assume Apple would prefer HFS+.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Okay I'm doing the Madagascar penguin "you didn't see anything gesture" now. LOL.
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japhule said:
It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
G Tab supports H.264 1080p main and high profiles
Detailed specs on what Audio and Video formats G Tablet supports are listed in the manual downloadable from the Viewsonic web site.
But in a few words - it does support up to 1080p, both baseline, high, and main profiles for H.264 with certain limitations for each, and MPEG4 simple profile.
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
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My entire system is redundant. I have my windows 7 share as well as my htpc/nas running tversity, orb and audiogalaxy (music only). Everything is shared in every way. First I try just streaming the file through Windows 7 dlna, which generally works fine. I too use Upnplay. If something doesn't work (very rare) I move to looking for it through Tversity which attempts to detect the dlna device and scale it so it works. I've never needed to use Orb on the GTab since I really got everything up and running, Orb is for when I actually am on the road and want to watch sth. from my home network. PlayOn may actually work as well - it has a free mode which allows you to use it to share files on the local network using VLC codecs.
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I'd like to add to this conversation with, I hope, clarification of how to get higher definition video playback working on the GTab.
I've tried four video files that are 720P or 1080P. None of them works well in Movies, DoubleTwist, Rockplayer, or VitalPlayer.
G Tablet, TnT 4.21, OE kernel. Market fix. Various apps.
Videos all playing from /SDCARD
Here is some more information about those videos, using Mediainfo:
Touring Car race:
720P MPEG-4 50FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 3 ref frames)
AAC Stereo
Big Buck Bunny:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/
1080P OpenDML AVI 12Mbps 24FPS MPEG-4 Visual ([email protected])
AC-3 audio
Audi R8:
720P AVC Matroska 800Kbps 29.970FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 2 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Donington LG demo:
1080P BDAV M2TS 35.5Mbps 29.970fps AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC /3 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Are all of these simply too much for me to get away with playing on the GTab? I've played most, if not all of these, using a Broadcom 70012 Crystal HD decoder card on a Dell Mini 9 (Atom N270) with few problems.
Thanks for the help.
Wondering what app you use to watch movies from sdcard. Built-in app doesn't work. Neither does es file explorer video app.
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Wondering what app you use to watch movies from sdcard. Built-in app doesn't work. Neither does es file explorer video app.
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The built in video app works fine for me, but I prefer RockPlayer.
The built in player also works fine for me. But it really only supports MP4 video files, if I understand correctly. I use Handbrake and the iPod Touch preset to encode for my Nook.
That said, I actually use Act 1 Video Player because it has the nicest 'library' view that groups by folder.
I use yxplayer, no need to encode... plays avi files like a charm.
The built-in player outperforms RockPlayer, which has some audio sync issues.
I use the iPod Touch preset in Handbrake, but I bump the resolution up to 720 x ???, turn off Anamorphic, and set a constant video bitrate of 800kbps and an audio bitrate of 80kbps.
Works well for me. Speed Racer looks gorgeous on this screen.
from my very very few experiments, i concluded that once videos are converted to mp4 (h.264 / AAC) any player is the same (uses the hardware decoding).
with videos in different formats its likely that there will be problems
i agree with nooter on using handbrake's iphone preset modifying the bitrate setting it around 800kbps (for animated movies it can be lower 600kbps should be ok). About altering the size of the movie, only for reducing it (remember the max lines in landscape is 600)
rock player works if u have the latest universal player but you need to install add block because even if you pay for it you cannot activate it
I've found that all the players avail still play back xvid/divx avi's really choppy, going to have to give handbrake a try to take advantage of the hardware decoder...
I was just able to install vplayer from the market (a few days ago it wouldn't install)... some audio sync issues but there are some cache parameters to tweak... anybody had any luck?
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I've found that all the players avail still play back xvid/divx avi's really choppy, going to have to give handbrake a try to take advantage of the hardware decoder...
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Same experience with playing divx/xvid files, choppy sound and 21-24fps video playback. Take that same video and run it through handbrake to convert to .mp4 and it runs great.
Where is the built in video player located? I cannot seem to find it anywhere..
I agreed with vplayer beta from the market place. It's free. It'll play most video formats. I've tested 480p and 720p mkv and both play with high speed setting. 720p mkv video is slow but 480p play fine. It's great with cifsmanager and mounted shared videos.
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The built-in player outperforms RockPlayer, which has some audio sync issues.
I use the iPod Touch preset in Handbrake, but I bump the resolution up to 720 x ???, turn off Anamorphic, and set a constant video bitrate of 800kbps and an audio bitrate of 80kbps.
Works well for me. Speed Racer looks gorgeous on this screen.
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So, what filetype does that create? What is the Extension? MP4 or M4V? Also, are there any other settings, other than the ones listed above that you use?
I am asking these questions because I am having issues with movies encoded this way playing in the default player. It doesn't recognize the video, so it will not play.
Also, VPlayer plays them, but there is a definite audio lag once you forward to about mid-movie.
Also, as an aside, I am converting ISO files (Direct DVD rips) using HandBrake. That is how I am generating these files. I do change the extension to mp4 from handbrakes default (m4v i think).
Thanks for any help.
J
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Where is the built in video player located? I cannot seem to find it anywhere..
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There is no shortcut in the App drawer (or Gallery) for the stock video player....I just click the video file (in whatever file manager you use or the Nook Library My Files tab).
Personally I use Act 1 Video player as it will present a list of videos on the SD card and Nook. Although for some reason it list videos on the Nook twice.
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The Act 1 app seems to be the only one that can properly sort videos. I tried the trial version, and it seems to work great, but as intuitive as the in-video touch areas may seem, I just can't get my brain dialed in to use them in practice. I think the built-in NC player works just fine, it's the video file/folder sorting that's nearly impossible to navigate once you have 20 or 30 vids on there along with a few thousand photos.
The media sorting options on Android are surprising lacking, or I just can't seem to find methods to deal with 32 gigabytes of media on this device.
I just did a bunch of conversions from some 720p MKV's. I converted them using Xilisoft video converter.
The settings I used were:
720x420
800k bitrate
44.1khz 128kbps audio
H.264 codec MP4 extension
Plays flawlessly with Rockplayer. No desync on fastforward.
The Built in player IS the best
After many attempts and reboots, I have determined that the Built-in Media player is the best player for videos encoded as specified earlier in this thread...
I tried Rock, and VPlayer beta, but both had very bad audio sync issues.
The Built-in player played all my encoded videos flawlessly. The wife LOVED watching Salt on the Nook during our road-trip. The only downside is the audio on the nook--hardly any volume. Easily solved by a good set of earphones. We are very pleased with the nook.
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Check out mVideoPlayer. I haven't tried it on the Nook, but its perfect on my Galaxy S phone.
As for encoding, go with handbrake. Choose the Apple TV preset. Set resolution to custom and width to 800 (handbrake should automatically choose the correct height based on asperity ratio of source material). Set the video quality to constant at 60% (70% is the max you want for HDTV). Under audio, select the appropriate track and select aac with Prologic II or stereo as the encoding. Use the MP4 extension as to avoid issues with different t players.
You can get way more detailed on settings beyond that. It just depends on the material and the playback device. Those settings should get you outstanding video on the Nook. May have to scale back a little if the video is choppy.
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After much trial and error, I have to agree with previous poster who said the best player is the built-in player with mp4 files created with the settings mentioned. The other players all had issues with controls and added nothing if the file was formatted as described.
I also had a lot of trouble getting any player to play any file at first. I think installing some of the other players added some necessary codecs. Then after a reboot, everything started to work. Hope that helps someone else avoid some frustration.
Despite a few trials like this, I love this tablet! Thank you xda devs!
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I'm running the free version of Rock Player. It's not exactly the cheapest app out there on the Android market, but if it works well, not a big deal.
Whenever I choose an mp4 video that I've encoded at 848x360, for example, Rock Player seems to default the widescreen video to this resolution, assuming the Nook Color scaled resolution is 1024x600, which means that a high quality widescreen rip at the smaller resolution will default launch with black bars around all 4 edges.
I noticed that the video display resizing has 3 modes,
(1) the default mode as mentioned above
(2) zoomed mode which fills the whole screen, stretching as required
(3) scaled mode which allows the widescreen video to stretch to the left and right edges properly, while maintaining a proper aspect ratio.
So the simple question is, how do I configure Rock Player to default launch video files in the mode (3) mentioned above?
My Atrix doesn't seem to be able to play any of my .mkv video files. Is anyone else having this problem? My captivate worked fine with the exact same movies. I have also tried downloading other video players such as rockplayer, mVideoPlayer and doubletwist but I am getting the same "sorry, this video cannot be played" or "file cannot be displayed or played" message.
i have also tried the copying the videos to both my external sd card and my internal memory, no luck.
The captivate seemed to support a lot of video formats with out resizing ....what does the atrix support
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Yeah, Im having problems with that too. All my videos are either too small or can't play. Anyone know the ins and outs of the attrix media capabilities?
Ok, I just tried an .mp4 file with no success as well. this can't possible be correct. I tried 5 different media players, including the stock one.
mp4s work for me, but not mkvs with the same settings. Tegra 2 only supports baseline H264.
The Atrix only supports (3GPP) .3gp and MPEG-4) .mp4 video formats.
Codec support is for H.263, H.264 AVC, MPEG-4 SP and VP8
So far I haven't gotten the phone to play any of its said supported videos. I too had the captivate and am now very disappointed in the Atrix codec support. Maybe we were spoiled with the captivate?
Only AVI's play. Nothing else. Hopefully this will be remedied by Moto before anyone else.
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So far I haven't gotten the phone to play any of its said supported videos. I too had the captivate and am now very disappointed in the Atrix codec support. Maybe we were spoiled with the captivate?
Only AVI's play. Nothing else. Hopefully this will be remedied by Moto before anyone else.
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That's because mostly any MPeg4 or H.264 video you try to play is high-profile. The Tegra 2 apparently only supports the baseline codec.
so are there any downloads out there that would supply the necessary codecs, or maybe another player (i'v already tried 5). i thought i got away from having to convert all of my videos when i got rid of my iphone
What pisses me off is I cannot even use DLNA to stream video to my phone since NOTHING is compatible.
I'm able to stream from my DVR and my Windows Media systems to any PC or DLNA equipped device in my house except for my Atrix.
The list of things that I like about this phone are slowly being overpowered by the list of crap that I should have to be dealing with.
This is supposed to be the "most powerful smartphone" on the market.
My 3 year old 3GS does more with less hacking.
And yeah... I threw up a little in my mouth when I said that as I hate having to hack my phone to get basic functionality.
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What pisses me off is I cannot even use DLNA to stream video to my phone since NOTHING is compatible.
I'm able to stream from my DVR and my Windows Media systems to any PC or DLNA equipped device in my house except for my Atrix.
The list of things that I like about this phone are slowly being overpowered by the list of crap that I should have to be dealing with.
This is supposed to be the "most powerful smartphone" on the market.
My 3 year old 3GS does more with less hacking.
And yeah... I threw up a little in my mouth when I said that as I hate having to hack my phone to get basic functionality.
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Try Subsonic server/app combo. Works great for me.
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Try Subsonic server/app combo. Works great for me.
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Doesn't work with DirecTV DVR's.
I have the whole home service so I can play any movie on any TV or PC in my house.
Any DLNA equipped device works too... except for the Atrix of course.
I was able to play a 700+ MB avi file.
I was able to play tron in 264 mkv fine here.
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I was able to play tron in 264 mkv fine here.
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can you let me know how large the file was?
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I was able to play a 700+ MB avi file.
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I was able to play tron in 264 mkv fine here.
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It would be nice if you could post what method you used and the steps you took to get your Atrix to play so that we too could enjoy videos.
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So far I haven't gotten the phone to play any of its said supported videos. I too had the captivate and am now very disappointed in the Atrix codec support. Maybe we were spoiled with the captivate?
Only AVI's play. Nothing else. Hopefully this will be remedied by Moto before anyone else.
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Yeah right. Motorola will fix it.
I bought a Tegra 2 device that can't play my 720p mkv movies. Perfect.
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mp4s work for me, but not mkvs with the same settings. Tegra 2 only supports baseline H264.
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mkv is a container, h264 is a codec
almost all phones can decode h264, xvid, divx, x264, etc, BUT in MP4 container.
just remux your files without recompress, its very quickly, just a few seconds using some program like YAMB or staxrip's just mux option.
if I have an avi file compressed with xvid my x10 can not play it with hardware decoders, but if I mux this avi in an mp4 file my x10 can play it very smooth, and remux its just take a half minute.
http://yamb.unite-video.com/
btw, if you want test, put any HD youtube video (MP4 high profile, wich is playable on atrix) and remux into MKV without recompress, I mean just mux, and try to play on atrix.
Chinese tablets and some branded phones can recognize MKV container, but it doesn't make a difference because make a playable video for your mobile it will take just a few seconds
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mkv is a container, h264 is a codec
almost all phones can decode h264, xvid, divx, x264, etc, BUT in MP4 container.
just remux your files without recompress, its very quickly, just a few seconds using some program like YAMB or staxrip's just mux option.
if I have an avi file compressed with xvid my x10 can not play it with hardware decoders, but if I mux this avi in an mp4 file my x10 can play it very smooth, and remux its just take a half minute.
http://yamb.unite-video.com/
btw, if you want test, put any HD youtube video (MP4 high profile, wich is playable on atrix) and remux into MKV without recompress, I mean just mux, and try to play on atrix.
Chinese tablets and some branded phones can recognize MKV container, but it doesn't make a difference because make a playable video for your mobile it will take just a few seconds
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I'd like to see some proof that high profile plays on the atrix currently. Main profile with tweaking plays choppy, but high profile in my experience does not work at all. Also as a clarification, x264 is a fully functional h264 encoder, and can be used to create bluray quality video
There are a few video containers supported by the player shipped with the atrix.
*.avi
*.mp4
*.3gp
Having said those, the codecs that can be inside an AVI file are as follows:
Video: xvid/divx (h.263)... owait noone cares about the other ones. At any res 1080p and lower resized to MOD16
Audio: mp3... again noone cares about the other ones
Inside the MP4 you can have the following:
Video: xvid/divx/h263/h264 (in BASELINE or HIGHLY MODIFIED MAIN profiles only) at any res 1080p and lower resized to MOD16
Audio: AAC (LC or HC; avoid multichannel as it creates an annoying echo) /AMR
*.3gp is the format that a lot of current handheld devices can capture in. They have their own specific codecs depending on the device, but video that I captured with my old sony ericsson s710a plays flawlessly on all my newer devices.
As for MKV... I wish it supported it. I started using QQplayer for MKV with very low bitrate xvid/mp3 combos for subtitles and they play OK, just not well. Settings I have found that work well with QQplayer and xvid for MKV is any flavor of 480p mod16 resized @~1500kb/s, and mp3 of an ABR of 112 downsampled to 44.1khz. h264 inside mkv though... not happening.
Care to explian where's the "mux" option in the program you linked?
Trial at https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result
Try it out!
Edit: Diceplayer and ES filemanager is a nice combo, plays mkv via wifi very nicely
Limitations
1. S5PC11x Chipset can play 720p(h.264 high profile)
2. Tegra 2 based phone can not play H.264 high profile clip.
3. Froyo Galaxy S/Tab can not play movie. Gingerbread is required.
4. 2nd gen. Snapdragon can not play H.264 High profile level 4.0/5.0 clip.
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Are we sure it will work? Testing now.
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Are we sure it will work? Testing now.
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Impressed! Works perfectly
Thanks for the link, buying it!
Does it play x264 high profile encoded 720p and 1080p mkv files?
Works perfect so far! Even plays across smb!
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Can someone check the playback of the following video clips, using Diceplayer? These clips are taken from this thread here. This is what the OP of that thread says:
This is a survey to see how well current tablets can play 720p and 1080p H.264 movies. Attached below are 6 sample clips from Avatar, each is of the same scene, encoded in H.264 high/main/baseline profile and 720p/1080p resolution. Please try all clips.
I've selected Avatar since it is full-frame and requires more bits than a normal wide-screen movie. This particular sequence is very high action, and serves as a worst-case test. (For playback, please minimize system load by closing down other running apps.)
http://mediafire.com/?15ec78k8s57db1z 1280 high MP4
http://mediafire.com/?pylvj2fa9kzynh2 1280 main MP4
http://mediafire.com/?9uk4z06ig651x3u 1280 baseline MP4
http://mediafire.com/?ge1nwgd5003s3ak 1920 high MP4
http://mediafire.com/?8aarftw6r499dga 1920 main MP4
http://mediafire.com/?7yqwhma8yhrhusq 1920 baseline MP4
The above video 1280 high profile play just fine with stock player. Android 3.1 handle highprofile mp4 with the right spec.
The 1920 highprofile freeze my tab and only gets audio. And when do people want to play 1080p? Better to use 720p with good quality and bitrate.
The thing that's stand out with diceplayer is that you can play .mkv.
It Evan plays videos with dts.
If you want use to test and see different between diceplayer and stock you should upload videos that don't run on stock player
Have tried some highprofile mkv and its almost ok, for the most time it runs smoothly, but sometimes the picture hangs,studder.
It's almost there but it don't reach all the way, hopes that we will see updates so the playback gets better.
Also think that mp4 baseline and other video plays smoother in movie's when there is alot of movement and panning.
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Doesn't play on my 3.1 Tab
Diceplayer doesn't work on my Tab - running HC3.1. Anyone else have problems?
arnold88 said:
Diceplayer doesn't work on my Tab - running HC3.1. Anyone else have problems?
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Same for me
arnold88 said:
Diceplayer doesn't work on my Tab - running HC3.1. Anyone else have problems?
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Same here, it opens, sits for a second, then closes.
Works pretty well with these ([email protected] AC3) TV shows that I download. Not bad since Mobo couldn't play these smoothly. Video has some hiccups but audio is smooth.
Downloaded a sample video ([email protected] DTS) and there was no video. Then the file stopped playing half way through (27 seconds in).
But I don't watch movies on my tablet anyway, only TV shows. And this seems to work great. Let's see if it'll be able to stream the TV shows smoothly. Thanks OP!
This plays my 720p x264 mkvs perfectly. Fantastic find, Doc, thanks.
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Ahh finally, since neither stock nor mobo could play my .mkv's (tv series) this is godsend.
I'm running HC 3.1 & TW.
Got Diceplayer playing back a 720p .MKV file (not sure if it was high profile or not) - not buttery smooth but better than anything else I've seen so far on HC3.1
Got a couple of questions, I was wondering if anyone can answer...
1) Diceplayer claims to offer hardware accelerated video decoding - is this for .MKVs?
2) Is that hardware acceleratation for Tegra 2
3) IF so, how are they managing it where so many others have failed? (Wasn't the core problem with offering HW acceleration for .MKVs down to lack of support from the nVidia side of things?)
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1) Diceplayer claims to offer hardware accelerated video decoding - is this for .MKVs?
=> Yes. it use hw accelerator at any format with MPEG-4/H.264
you can play MOV / AVI files with HW accel.
2) Is that hardware acceleratation for Tegra 2
=> YES.
It plays 720p high profile mkv without any issues. With 1080p, The video stops playing, but the audio still works for some, but wont for most of the 1080p videos either mkv or mp4. I think this might be achieved in the future.
720p playback is great !
1080p just freeze the tab but hey not even my Galaxy S II cant handle Full HD besides the resolution is useless for now anyway
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It plays 720p high profile mkv without any issues. With 1080p, The video stops playing, but the audio still works for some, but wont for most of the 1080p videos either mkv or mp4. I think this might be achieved in the future.
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I don't think it (Galaxy Tab/Tegra2) can handle level 4.1 or higher. But plays the rest better than anything else I've tried.
juami said:
1) Diceplayer claims to offer hardware accelerated video decoding - is this for .MKVs?
=> Yes. it use hw accelerator at any format with MPEG-4/H.264
you can play MOV / AVI files with HW accel.
2) Is that hardware acceleratation for Tegra 2
=> YES.
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Awesome.. which leads me to question 3.. *How* are they managing to implement HW acceleration where the other software vendors have failed? e.g. the reliance on core NVidia software library support (or lack of it apparently) ??
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Awesome.. which leads me to question 3.. *How* are they managing to implement HW acceleration where the other software vendors have failed? e.g. the reliance on core NVidia software library support (or lack of it apparently) ??
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see my interview.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/07/20/focus-on-apps-dice-player/
I've owned the phone for about a week now and I like it a lot except I'm not sure how to get videos converted on here? I had to find a trial version of AVS video converter which doesn't even support Galaxy S2, I just changed the resolution but it wasn't as good + watermark in the center.
How can I get movies on here and utilize the full screen or at least get good quality? Does Samsung Kies do this?
I know with apple products (i.e. the iPhones, iPods) it easy with itunes and I already have Videora ipod converter which is extremely easy and flawless for my iPod.
I just cant find anything that easy with the Galaxy s2? Honestly it feels like this is the deal breaker for me as much as I love this phone.
You don't have to convert anything. The phone plays divx and mkvs. Converting is in the past. At worst you need to get Dice Player from the market for mkvs with DTS. I have a huge collection and converting is history.
If you want to convert it for downsizing the file size try Handbrake. Free program and open source.
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Media Converter looks pretty cool.
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If you want to convert it for downsizing the file size try Handbrake. Free program and open source.
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Handbrake is the way to go. Free, open source, and uses one of the best H.264 encoders out there (x264).
I have attached the preset I use for encoding - note that this can probably use some tuning to be more appropriate for the GS2 as it's more capable than the Android devices I've encoded to before for media playback. It'll work just fine on the GS2, it just won't achieve quite the quality and compression ratios possible by enabling some of the more advanced H.264 features.
I disagree on conversion being unnecessary - 720p/1080p videos are pointless unless you're using the MHL adapter, they'll play but are a waste of storage space. Also, some codecs/formats may fallback on software decoding, eating your battery more than hardware-decoded formats.
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You don't have to convert anything. The phone plays divx and mkvs. Converting is in the past. At worst you need to get Dice Player from the market for mkvs with DTS. I have a huge collection and converting is history.
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and here I was searching the ends of the earth looking for a program to convert the files. I could have sworn I saw somewhere that Galaxy S2 didn't support avi's. Boy was I wrong. Thanks!
DivX or XviD are just codecs for .avi files right? Most of my movies are all avi's and I just drag and dropped one and it played great just now.
Do you all your movies play with black borders too? I know I could resize it on my Galaxy S2 but there is some loss in quality. This seems like a universal thing as my iPod Touch does the same thing. It's not a problem really it's just I'd like to be able to utilize the full screen.
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Handbrake is the way to go. Free, open source, and uses one of the best H.264 encoders out there (x264).
I have attached the preset I use for encoding - note that this can probably use some tuning to be more appropriate for the GS2 as it's more capable than the Android devices I've encoded to before for media playback. It'll work just fine on the GS2, it just won't achieve quite the quality and compression ratios possible by enabling some of the more advanced H.264 features.
I disagree on conversion being unnecessary - 720p/1080p videos are pointless unless you're using the MHL adapter, they'll play but are a waste of storage space. Also, some codecs/formats may fallback on software decoding, eating your battery more than hardware-decoded formats.
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I've heard of Handbrake, basically it's if I have full DVD's right? And you can't see true 720p or 1080p videos on this phone right? Only on a hdtv through the MHL adapter?
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Do you all your movies play with black borders too? I know I could resize it on my Galaxy S2 but there is some loss in quality. This seems like a universal thing as my iPod Touch does the same thing. It's not a problem really it's just I'd like to be able to utilize the full screen.
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Yes, it does for movies but not TV thanks to the aspect ratio. Some player from the market (Moboplayer, Dice Player) let you resize to fill the screen.
I've heard of Handbrake, basically it's if I have full DVD's right? And you can't see true 720p or 1080p videos on this phone right? Only on a hdtv through the MHL adapter?
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Handbrake can re-encode almost any video source. You can watch 1080p movies on the phone but they only display in WVGA resolution. With MHL out the phone will playback full Blu Ray rips in 1080p (I do this often).
Depends on the movie. If it's a 16:9 movie, it should have little to no black bordering.
If it's a 2.35:1 movie - it's going to have black bars above/below.
4:3 content will have black bars left/right.
While you can directly watch 1080p content (we've got a beefy GPU), it gets scaled down to 480p - so it'll just waste storage space.
The preset I linked preserves the aspect ratio and limits to a max of 800 pixels wide or 480 tall, so basically scaling video to the optimal resolution for our phone - not too small, not any larger than the native resolution.
If you want to use the MHL adapter, I can post the 720p preset I use on my Tab 10.1
Entropy512 said:
Handbrake is the way to go. Free, open source, and uses one of the best H.264 encoders out there (x264).
I have attached the preset I use for encoding - note that this can probably use some tuning to be more appropriate for the GS2 as it's more capable than the Android devices I've encoded to before for media playback. It'll work just fine on the GS2, it just won't achieve quite the quality and compression ratios possible by enabling some of the more advanced H.264 features.
I disagree on conversion being unnecessary - 720p/1080p videos are pointless unless you're using the MHL adapter, they'll play but are a waste of storage space. Also, some codecs/formats may fallback on software decoding, eating your battery more than hardware-decoded formats.
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Thanks a lot for attaching your preset. It works great. You mentioned that it can use some tuning for our phone to achieve the quality and compression ratios possible. I don't know how to do that so I don't know if it's quick and simple to do or not. Can you do that and attach it for us to download?
Thanks
Basically go into Advanced and try enabling various features until something breaks.
I tried it on my Infuse at one point and it just caused audio and video to desync. Haven't had time to fiddle with it on the GS2. It's basically trial and error in the Advanced tab of Handbrake.
Entropy512 said:
Basically go into Advanced and try enabling various features until something breaks.
I tried it on my Infuse at one point and it just caused audio and video to desync. Haven't had time to fiddle with it on the GS2. It's basically trial and error in the Advanced tab of Handbrake.
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ok. thanks
can you post the preset you use for your tab 10.1?
thanks again
It's basically the exact same preset except the resolution limits are 1280x720. The resolution limits are hard to find, you only see them when saving a profile.