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Could someone explain to me why in Desire HD Rom on HD2 does not work the camera?
because the source for the phone hasnt been released by htc yet.
thanks for the quick response ... :-(
I hope will be resolved soon ... I love having a good android on my HD2!
i always wanted to know this also so like when would the release comes?
there's the same problem on other devices such as htc desire, no camera with desire hd rom too, no?
Why? because you are lazy to read the topics...........
tinuz97 said:
Why? because you are lazy to read the topics...........
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I'm normally not one to flame newbs but it HAS been explained ad nauseum and is easily found in ANY Desire HD rom thread within the first or second page. it doesn't even take a thorough search or drudging through a 50 plus page thread to find the answer to this question.
Mods - please close
Mods.
Please close - another thread that should not have been started wasting more bandwidth.
OP - Please take the time to search the forums first. Whilst XDA members are here to help it does get a bit frustrating when questions such as this are asked time and time again.
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Why? because you are lazy to read the topics...........
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I really hate when a member who has alotta posts', always has something smart to say when a "newbie" asks a question. It's not necessary! While the post may be a waste of "space", the question is still relevant. Don't forget, "YOU" was once a newbie also!!! A simple answer could've ended this thread already. Many of us aren't as tech savvy as others, thats why forums like this was created. If it wasn't for "newbies" these forums wouldn't continue to exist. Show some respect to all, whether ur a "moderate" "senior member" or a "newbie". Thank you!
we had the same issue back in the G1 days when eclair was first ported. someone took the time to reverse engineer the camera driver to get it to work in eclair. either we get the source for it, or someone has to take good chunk of time to figure it out.
robkoehler said:
we had the same issue back in the G1 days when eclair was first ported. someone took the time to reverse engineer the camera driver to get it to work in eclair. either we get the source for it, or someone has to take good chunk of time to figure it out.
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Just curious, is there some reason why a camera driver from another build won't work in the Desire HD ROM?
Ditto, I agree. Let's be accommodating and helpful.
microse23 said:
I really hate when a member who has alotta posts', always has something smart to say when a "newbie" asks a question. It's not necessary! While the post may be a waste of "space", the question is still relevant. Don't forget, "YOU" was once a newbie also!!! A simple answer could've ended this thread already. Many of us aren't as tech savvy as others, thats why forums like this was created. If it wasn't for "newbies" these forums wouldn't continue to exist. Show some respect to all, whether ur a "moderate" "senior member" or a "newbie". Thank you!
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rustybob said:
Just curious, is there some reason why a camera driver from another build won't work in the Desire HD ROM?
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Because its not a camera "App" issue. More of a driver issue.
motoman234 said:
Because its not a camera "App" issue. More of a driver issue.
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What prevents the use of the camera driver from a working Android build? Is it not a ko module?
If it were that easy, dont you think darkstone would have just included in the first beta itself
microse23 said:
I really hate when a member who has alotta posts', always has something smart to say when a "newbie" asks a question. It's not necessary! While the post may be a waste of "space", the question is still relevant. Don't forget, "YOU" was once a newbie also!!! A simple answer could've ended this thread already. Many of us aren't as tech savvy as others, thats why forums like this was created. If it wasn't for "newbies" these forums wouldn't continue to exist. Show some respect to all, whether ur a "moderate" "senior member" or a "newbie". Thank you!
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true. always a **** head giving a hard time like they was born with technical knowledge you all where noobs so dont look down on ppl. be a friend and help ppl in need
What a [email protected]$#%&
You are too busy to read other posts and expect answers from others that do? Get real... Search before asking the same questions over and over again
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OCedHrt said:
What prevents the use of the camera driver from a working Android build? Is it not a ko module?
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Camera driver= kernel issue. We do not have the kernel source yet. Lets hope we get it sometime soon!
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true. always a **** head giving a hard time like they was born with technical knowledge you all where noobs so dont look down on ppl. be a friend and help ppl in need
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No, people are not getting mad just because he asked a question. Its the fact that he did not do any research at all (Which is a huge rule on this site). The answer to this question has been answered in just about every Desire HD-2 thread. Also because this particular forum "HD2 Android Development" is not for Q&A. I've seen a thread about this exact question start like once a week, and it always gets moved.
reported..
The picture explains it all. What the hell am I supposed to do?
http://i.imgur.com/DVQ4r.jpg
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The picture explains it all. What the hell am I supposed to do?
http://i.imgur.com/DVQ4r.jpg
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You should try using the search button and this thing called reading. There are these things called stickies that have info in them. Mindblowing I know.
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Thanks for nothing, that doesn't help. I've already searched, but I don't know exactly what to search for. A finger in the right direction would help me better than your worthless sarcastic response.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288112
A start atleast.
God I wish rom manager was hidden in the market for our phones
No CWM right? Hmm, cant you just ODIN a different kernel and then have CWM? Are you rooted? Try the Mobile Odin app, put a differnt kernel on the root of your SD card and try flashing that way.
Or perhaps the worst case scenario is you have to ODIN back to stock to wipe the damages that Rom Manager did.
I hate Rom Manager so much...
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No CWM right? Hmm, cant you just ODIN a different kernel and then have CWM? Are you rooted? Try the Mobile Odin app, put a differnt kernel on the root of your SD card and try flashing that way.
Or perhaps the worst case scenario is you have to ODIN back to stock to wipe the damages that Rom Manager did.
I hate Rom Manager so much...
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Yes I am rooted. I will give it a try
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A finger in the right direction would help me better than your worthless sarcastic response.
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I have a finger pointed in your direction. Guess which one.
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Thanks for nothing, that doesn't help. I've already searched, but I don't know exactly what to search for. A finger in the right direction would help me better than your worthless sarcastic response.
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you're right. i shouldnt have pointed out that we have stickies that cover this type of thing. i should have stuck the answer on the end of a silver spoon and shoved it down your throat so you could gag on the answer that was right in front of you the whole time. i would hate for you to have actually learned something, or even followed the goddamn rules of the forum for which you so eagerly signed up for.
its a shame that someone couldnt just do the work for you.
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you're right. i shouldnt have pointed out that we have stickies that cover this type of thing. i should have stuck the answer on the end of a silver spoon and shoved it down your throat so you could gag on the answer that was right in front of you the whole time. i would hate for you to have actually learned something, or even followed the goddamn rules of the forum for which you so eagerly signed up for.
its a shame that someone couldnt just do the work for you.
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Damn PG, that brought a tear to my eye.
my apologies to the OP.
in my line of work, i know all too well that common sense aint so common and that people hate having to learn stuff to get where they want. so much easier to gimme.
i understand reading and comprehension are hard, so i apologize for being a complete A-Hole
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Thanks for nothing, that doesn't help. I've already searched, but I don't know exactly what to search for. A finger in the right direction would help me better than your worthless sarcastic response.
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You were pointed in the right direction. You were told to read the stickies, which you SHOULD have done before posting in the first place.
You clearly did NOT do this, because, without you even stating what you did, it was obvious to at least three people who read your post what you did wrong, despite the stickies having instructions to NOT DO WHAT YOU DID in the DAMNED THREAD TITLE.
Edit: Oh yeah, and one of the posts here gives you a damn good hint too...
I'm not new to XDA. I couldn't find exactly what I needed to find and was lost. Didn't know which stickies to look at and where. Whatever, its my fault, you're right, but it doesn't give anyone a reason to be harsh to me. This is a Q&A and i asked one. You didn't have to respond. I guess you guys find some joy in giving snide remarks to those who are lost.
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I guess you guys find some joy in giving snide remarks to those who are lost.
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Actually, we'd find much more joy in people just reading the stickies, posting to an existing relevant thread and doing a search before posting. But yeah, we do like our snide remarks, too.
Believe me, I dont find any joy in having to respond to 40+ reported posts on the same OP/thread and then having to close them or move them.
I do find joy in reading humorous, snide and condescending comments though. Those can be really clever sometimes.
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I do find joy in reading humorous, snide and condescending comments though. Those can be really clever sometimes.
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Yeah, and we appreciate it. IIRC, you even got nipped by one of your fellow mods for leaving a thread open so we could enjoy the humor.
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Yeah, and we appreciate it. IIRC, you even got nipped by one of your fellow mods for leaving a thread open so we could enjoy the humor.
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Ya, the Christmas Special. Good times...
monkey hung said:
I'm not new to XDA. I couldn't find exactly what I needed to find and was lost. Didn't know which stickies to look at and where. Whatever, its my fault, you're right, but it doesn't give anyone a reason to be harsh to me. This is a Q&A and i asked one. You didn't have to respond. I guess you guys find some joy in giving snide remarks to those who are lost.
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Seriously - there's a total of only 13 stickies over 3 I777 subforums.
One of them is marked as a FAQ. You should always read FAQs.
One of them says in the thread title, in capital letters, NOT TO DO SOMETHING. Based on your description of the issue, it is clear to all of us THAT YOU DID IT ANYWAY.
And despite blatant multiple hints (no we're not going to hold your hand and spoonfeed you when you are going to be this lazy or dense), you still haven't figured it out.
Yes, Red, thanks for occasionally leaving a thread open so we can vent.
Actually... wait... I looked more closely at your picture... You didn't use ROM Manager (which often causes the problems you've described) - you're still on stock recovery!
The concept that someone could still be using stock recovery and not understand that stock recovery won't work for anything but wiping... well, seriously, that's so incomprehensible that we'd assumed that at the very least, you'd ****ed up by using ROM Manager to get to CWM recovery.
Edit: That said, the answer to your question IS in the FAQ. Of the only 13 stickies here, at the VERY LEAST you should have read the FAQ. Seriously, FAQ posts are there for a damn good reason.
Just seen this browsing threw the web and was wondering since stated amaze wanted to know what you guys think about this anyone willing to try?
http://www.androidauthority.com/roo...pire-incredible-with-htc-super-tool-v3-41701/
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Just seen this browsing threw the web and was wondering since stated amaze wanted to know what you guys think about this anyone willing to try?
http://www.androidauthority.com/roo...pire-incredible-with-htc-super-tool-v3-41701/
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search, it's been discussed already.
Rule numero uno, search, search and then search some more.
I wish u gave me a useful answer other than the usual flaming....i didnt see any thread other than mikes and it only got one reply maybe something new came of it..
HTC tool unlocks the phone, however does not provide S-off for us. From my understanding there are developer versions of the Amaze running around and the only person I have seen with one is Xboarder. Not really that big of a deal I guess because Xboarder has a kernel flashing tool you can find in the development section.
Im aware of X's kernel flashing tool but S-off will make all our lives a lil easier...
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Im aware of X's kernel flashing tool but S-off will make all our lives a lil easier...
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Yeah, it would. But at least we have something until someone figures it out. I got my Linux for Dummies book ready to go!
RobbyRob said:
I got my Linux for Dummies book ready to go!
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i need one of those lol
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I wish u gave me a useful answer other than the usual flaming....i didnt see any thread other than mikes and it only got one reply maybe something new came of it..
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Wow, your a sensitive one aren't ya. I was not flaming you, the info was relevant. If you had used the search function you would have found the thread discussing this bit of software your asking about.
I found on the first try using, wait for it......"htc super tool" in the search function.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413787&highlight=htc+super+tool
There is your useful information, have a nice day!
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I found on the first try using, wait for it......"htc super tool" in the search function.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413787&highlight=htc+super+tool
There is your useful information, have a nice day!
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I'm fully aware of using the search function and mike's thread but since he's not active in this forum I was wondering if anything new came of it..Thanks for pointing out the obvious tho..p.s i did see the link in mike's thread also but who wants to read threw 104 page's when a simple answer is all we needed.
Binary please close thread.
what was the point of this thread?
teflon252 said:
what was the point of this thread?
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no point at all, all the information the OP is seeking is already available elsewhere.
HigherSensation said:
I wish u gave me a useful answer other than the usual flaming....i didnt see any thread other than mikes and it only got one reply maybe something new came of it..
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Seriously? You didn't see the thread that said
Everything S-OFF - Think tank, General information, Q&A
So I am guessing you didn't see the part where it says:
There is no way to get S-OFF on a normal S-ON phone now.
You don't actually need to search. It's a sticky at the top of the Development section.
That includes the HTC Supertool.
It took me literally ten seconds to find the post you were referring to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413787
And the post #2 looks very familiar. Guess what? Nothing has changed or else we wouldn't have the other posts asking for s-off. Would we? I'm not trying to be harsh but this is why people get flamed. I'm not flaming you but instead I'm educating you. If I already posted an answer in that thread... did you really feel that need to start another exact same thread? And did you honestly expect a different answer??? Think about how frustrating that is for me that has been spending hundreds of hours trying to get us s-off. Just take it into consideration next time.
However if you had searched for the term "Amaze s-off" you would have been presented with the following:
[Q] HTC.com dev unlock vs. S-Off in Amaze
[TOOL] Easy Perm Root One Click for 1.36 or earlier devices only (granted that it's not very helpful)
[Q] How to S=off on U.S version T-mobile
Everything S-OFF - Think tank, General information, Q&A
Any progress on S-off?
But you just stated "i didnt see any thread other than mikes"
How is that even possible??? What did you search for to NOT get any of the posts above??? I'm puzzled as to how you couldn't find them.
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Binary please close thread.
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Not yet... I want to get an answer from the OP.
You know, if the first response had been "no it wont work" this whole thread would have over in 2 posts.
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You know, if the first response had been "no it wont work" this whole thread would have over in 2 posts.
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Where is the fun in that
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You know, if the first response had been "no it wont work" this whole thread would have over in 2 posts.
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It's never going to be that easy because there will be another one exactly like this next week. It has to be a couple pages long to look serious enough for some one to read the first post.
Binary i researched all the other links after posted the thread i was just curious if anything ever came of it.Obviously it didn't because we would of all have s-off by now that's a mistake on my behalf everyone's always so hostile on this forum all it took was a positive answer which i thanked BobbyRon for.I'm sorry and will use this for future experience..
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Binary i researched all the other links after posted the thread i was just curious if anything ever came of it.Obviously it didn't because we would of all have s-off by now that's a mistake on my behalf everyone's always so hostile on this forum all it took was a positive answer which i thanked BobbyRon for.I'm sorry and will use this for future experience..
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And knowing is half the battle.
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It's never going to be that easy because there will be another one exactly like this next week. It has to be a couple pages long to look serious enough for some one to read the first post.
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Binary I respect your insight and your efforts here in this forum. There have been numerous posts recently speaking to the hostility and lack of basic decency here in the Amaze forum. I never experienced anything like this in the Hero forum. All I'm saying is that if people simply answer a question rather than "flame the noob" then this forum would be a whole lot better for it. It also would result in more useful hits coming up for people actually using the search button since the answers would be more plentiful. Flaming and rickrolling helps nobody.
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Binary i researched all the other links after posted the thread i was just curious if anything ever came of it.Obviously it didn't because we would of all have s-off by now that's a mistake on my behalf everyone's always so hostile on this forum all it took was a positive answer which i thanked BobbyRon for.I'm sorry and will use this for future experience..
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Look at it this way: If everyone, noobs and non-noobs alike read from the top down, 95% of all question would be answered within the sticky before a new thread is ever created.
I agree that flamimg is counter productive, but the frustrations of the mod is well warranted. He's the one who has to clean up the mess.....
Thinking about a guide like say "links to common problems and tuts",
where there is links to every common problem of the forum in those threads. users can post more. so everything is there and its not very messy or long.
op's would get more views and thanks.
Kindly use the vote too.
is this idea good?
I think the stickies already enough (In my own opinion)
I guess we have so many stickies, should be enough
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mihahn said:
I guess we have so many stickies, should be enough
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Still most people directly come to q and a, (two stickies only)
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mnishamk said:
Thinking about a guide like say "links to common problems and tuts",
where there is links to every common problem of the forum in those threads. users can post more. so everything is there and its not very messy or long.
op's would get more views and thanks.
Kindly use the vote too.
is this idea good?
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I think the idea is a good one. A bunch of the recognized contributors are trying to do something along those lines, but based on a FAQ. The idea is for most devices to end up with a FAQ with short answers to the common questions/problems. Since the answers are short, they almost always link to a longer guide/tut/resource.
fma965 put one up for the Xperia Play today, it is here if you want to take a look.
Is there any way to share op title or at least have an option for more than person to edit a post? And watch over the thread etc etc.
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I think your idea is not bad but I think I already made a FAQ thread for it You can always PM me or tell me all kinds of your idea to improve it. I'm trying to make it as much helpful as I can and if you put your effort too, i think that guide can be extended to a greater level
Best Regards,
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Is there any way to share op title or at least have an option for more than person to edit a post? And watch over the thread etc etc.
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At the moment no. I think that people have asked for this in General - About xda forum. I seem to remember that it was going to be looked into...but it could be a while.
I don't think you can ever have too many guides as what you may find in one you might not find in another, but as already said it's pretty much covered in the guides/sticky department, and most of the solutions to common problems should be found by following Rule Number 1 anyway.
No offence, but the search tool of xda isn't quite up to the mark.
Quoting a person from the alternative to 10 post rule
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Agreed, but it IS an alternative. And I might point out that the search function is not the best. Case in point, I received a thunderbolt a few weeks ago, and while I was able to find what I needed to root it quickly, there things I needed to know that were no where to be found. As an RC, I knew better than to "just ask", but after I could not find my answer (although I'm sure it was here somewhere) I had to pull a n00b and ask. Of course, I was treated like a n00b with the typical "read the OP, search first" responses. NOT HELPFUL.
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No offence, but the search tool of xda isn't quite up to the mark.
Quoting a person from the alternative to 10 post rule
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Google works perfectly, which is why its so frustrating when People say they've searched but not found what they're looking for, because most of the time typing a thread title or their question into Google finds it straight away, or is in one of the stickys they clearly haven't read.
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I've been looking everywhere and just need some direction on where to find a stock Rom for the HTC one for at&t version. Also I want to know if my phone will still be rooted or not afterwards? I know it normally has to be a rooted Rom but that surely wouldn't get rid of root just because I flash a stock Rom? And is flashing it essentially having stock or is there a way I can go completely stock and it not even have access to bootloader and can anymore? Thanks in advance for any help I'm still not very good at this.
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I've been looking everywhere and just need some direction on where to find a stock Rom for the HTC one for at&t version. Also I want to know if my phone will still be rooted or not afterwards? I know it normally has to be a rooted Rom but that surely wouldn't get rid of root just because I flash a stock Rom? And is flashing it essentially having stock or is there a way I can go completely stock and it not even have access to bootloader and can anymore? Thanks in advance for any help I'm still not very good at this.
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You should look in the right place first, like the att HTC one forum perhaps.
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golabski said:
I've been looking everywhere and just need some direction on where to find a stock Rom for the HTC one for at&t version. Also I want to know if my phone will still be rooted or not afterwards? I know it normally has to be a rooted Rom but that surely wouldn't get rid of root just because I flash a stock Rom? And is flashing it essentially having stock or is there a way I can go completely stock and it not even have access to bootloader and can anymore? Thanks in advance for any help I'm still not very good at this.
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Be prepared to get smart ass comments like the one above mine. If you flash a stock Att ROM you will still be rooted. You can find one in the android development section. In order to get rid of custom recovery you would need to run the Att ruu. You first have to relock your boot loader. There are several informative videos on you tube. Just do a Google search for Att ruu for HTC one.
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Be prepared to get smart ass comments like the one above mine. If you flash a stock Att ROM you will still be rooted. You can find one in the android development section. In order to get rid of custom recovery you would need to run the Att ruu. You first have to relock your boot loader. There are several informative videos on you tube. Just do a Google search for Att ruu for HTC one.
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How was that persons response a smart ass response...
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How was that persons response a smart ass response...
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I don't know if it was smartass (it definitely wasn't that smart)...but it was rude.
A person asked a question...and a second person not only did not answer it but tried to shame him/her by saying: "you should look in the right place".
What's up with that??
Why are some of the older members on these forums (some with thousands of posts) so hostile to newbies??
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I don't know if it was smartass (it definitely wasn't that smart)...but it was rude.
A person asked a question...and a second person not only did not answer it but tried to shame him/her by saying: "you should look in the right place".
What's up with that??
Why are some of the older members on these forums (some with thousands of posts) so hostile to newbies??
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That's exactly what I meant. It happens a lot on XDA. Instead of using your response to help a person, they either have a smart comment or try to make the person asking the question feel stupid.
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I don't know if it was smartass (it definitely wasn't that smart)...but it was rude.
A person asked a question...and a second person not only did not answer it but tried to shame him/her by saying: "you should look in the right place".
What's up with that??
Why are some of the older members on these forums (some with thousands of posts) so hostile to newbies??
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How do you know this person didn't post in the international section originally and was moved here by a mod? So don't make assumptions like that because I've seen it happens many times. And most of us aren't mean, we just don't feel the need to do all the legwork for said noobies. That gets no one anywhere if people can't figure these things out by themselves they should not be modifying their expensive devices. Not trying to be mean, but we do not want people bricking their phones here.
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That's exactly what I meant. It happens a lot on XDA. Instead of using your response to help a person, they either have a smart comment or try to make the person asking the question feel stupid.
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We don't make anyone feel stupid. If anything they make themselves look stupid especially when the answer they're looking for is right in front of them but they just feel like someone should send them a link because they're entitled to it.
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This is exactly why I hate looking for answers on forums. If people would help out and actually provide some helpful answers then people would be able to find the right solution when searching. I can't tell you how many threads and posts I've had to go through because of spiteful responses.
I understand my reply doesn't help the OP, but I just had to say something.
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Yeah...I have only been posting for a day but I've been reading these forums for a while and I've noticed a certain level of hostility especially towards newbies...
I asked a simple question yesterday (as my first post) and the very first response was a smartass remark...I wasn't even surprised.
There is a lot of nerd rage around these forums I suppose, and been an electrical engineer I am used to dealing with that...but still, I thought this was supposed to be a "community".it'd be funny if everytime one of my neighbors asked me a question about how to do something, I answered like that.
And by funny I mean, I'd be an asshole for answering like that.
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How do you know this person didn't post in the international section originally and was moved here by a mod? So don't make assumptions like that because I've seen it happens many times. And most of us aren't mean, we just don't feel the need to do all the legwork for said noobies. That gets no one anywhere if people can't figure these things out by themselves they should not be modifying their expensive devices. Not trying to be mean, but we do not want people bricking their phones here.
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First of all... why does it matter if a person posted somewhere else?
Secondly, there is no need to be hostile or defensive...ever.
Third, no one is asking anyone any work...some people are just asking simple questions about how to from A to B.
Fourth, if a person asks a question, and a second person doesn't know the answer then they shouldn't answer. And if their intent is to point in the right direction they could just say:
Hey, check this forum out and here is a link... no need for smartass remarks.
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Yeah...I have only been posting for a day but I've been reading these forums for a while and I've noticed a certain level of hostility especially towards newbies...
I asked a simple question yesterday (as my first post) and the very first response was a smartass remark...I wasn't even surprised.
There is a lot of nerd rage around these forums I suppose, and been an electrical engineer I am used to dealing with that...but still, I thought this was supposed to be a "community".it'd be funny if everytime one of my neighbors asked me a question about how to do something, I answered like that.
And by funny I mean, I'd be an asshole for answering like that.
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First of all... why does it matter if a person posted somewhere else?
Secondly, there is no need to be hostile or defensive...ever.
Third, no one is asking anyone any work...some people are just asking simple questions about how to from A to B.
Fourth, if a person asks a question, and a second person doesn't know the answer then they shouldn't answer. And if their intent is to point in the right direction they could just say:
Hey, check this forum out and here is a link... no need for smartass remarks.
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Because if they post in the international section they wouldn't have much help there as most people with the at&t version post here where there is also an ruu.
Second, there's only a few here that may be hostile. Telling people to search is not hostile.
Third, why should we spell it out for someone again if by taking a look around before posting will answer their questions?
Fourth, that's what most people do, except they don't always post links because they shouldn't have to. Most people I see tell the person with the problem exactly where to find the answer and linking to it isn't necessary. Do some people do it? Sure, but it shouldn't be necessary.
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I understand there are some stupid questions asked on XDA but overall the attitude is hostility. It's been that way since I started rooting/flashing 4 years ago. XDA is very intimidating as a noobie. You have to learn lingo/terms and even as a half way experienced flasher I still read read read and sometimes am unclear on some things. There are a lot of helpful people on here and the devs are amazing but sometimes honest questions get ripped.
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Because if they post in the international section they wouldn't have much help there as most people with the at&t version post here where there is also an ruu.
Second, there's only a few here that may be hostile. Telling people to search is not hostile.
Third, why should we spell it out for someone again if by taking a look around before posting will answer their questions?
Fourth, that's what most people do, except they don't always post links because they shouldn't have to. Most people I see tell the person with the problem exactly where to find the answer and linking to it isn't necessary. Do some people do it? Sure, but it shouldn't be necessary.
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Telling people to search may not be hostile but is douchie...If the person is in these forums is because they are searching. If I know the answer to a question that someone asks, I have two options, I can either choose to answer it or choose not to answer it. If I choose to not answer it then I should not type a smartass remark.
So here is a simple suggestion for some of the most hostile older members of these forums...
If you don't feel like you should answer a person's questions then don't ****ing answer the question...Why spend the extra effort to try to be a smartass??
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By the way Nick...
You have not been hostile to me...just to be clear...
Which baffles me that you are defending some of the a-holes who are.
I agree people shouldn't be aholes but I'm just trying to explain why the attitude around here is the way it is, I started as a noob once (back in the captivate days) the first thing I did when I tried to root that thing was mess it up, and I was able to fix it by myself without asking for the easy way out. Most people expect everyone who joins to do that so that's why people say "search before posting" and if you still can't find the answer then no one will be hostile in any way and will most likely answer your question politely. That's all, I understand it's intimidating but we just encourage people to problem solve by themselves first and ask questions after
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I try not to be a smartass but if someone posts something really obvious then I will tell them to search and nothing else
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[/COLOR]I try not to be a smartass but if someone posts something really obvious then I will tell them to search and nothing else
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This is kind of my point though...
No need to do that. When I know the answer to a question I either choose to answer it or not answer it... To say "hey, go search search"...is rude.
What makes you think that person wasn't searching? I can tell you if they found these forums is because they are searching...and perhaps they could not find the answer.
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This is kind of my point though...
No need to do that. When I know the answer to a question I either choose to answer it or not answer it... To say "hey, go search search"...is rude.
What makes you think that person wasn't searching? I can tell you if they found these forums is because they are searching...and perhaps they could not find the answer.
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Usually you can tell, especially with people that make new threads like" how do i return to stock?" those kinds of things make it obvious that the person didn't look at all. Most of the time I will point them in the right direction and hope they can figure it out on their own, otherwise they shouldn't root/mod their phones. That's all.
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The problem is that there are so many threads with misinformation and you never know which method to follow since there aren't many "official" threads in how to do something. Most of the time I search and read various methods and then will usually have to go with the mostly used method.
What I describe above is what is wrong with the internet in general.. not just xda.
You never know who knows what and when you find an answer your hoping it's right.. but I've been burned before where you follow someones suggestion, but then 20 minutes later, someone with more experience gives the right solution.
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few quick questions
I flashed the Google Edition ROM earlier today and I have a couple of quick questions about the Google Edition ROM...
Right now my home screens are set to 4x4 arrays and the # of icons on the dock is also limited. Is there anyway to change this while using the stock launcher? I have the Nova launcher installed now, but I was wondering if there was any level of customization that could be done on the stock launcher?
Also the stock launcher is not allowing me to re-size widgets and such...is that a by product of this "Google Edition" using the Sense framework?
Lastly is the Trebuchet launcher on CM any better when it comes to customization? And anyone who has tried both and has an opinion one way or the other?
I'll greatly appreciate the help.
Flashed the CM10.1 June 28 nightly played with it for almost a day...liked it a lot but will stick to the Google Edition ROM for the time being...mostly based on Stability (and silly as it may sound the Beats Optimization)
Will probably switch to CM 10.1 once it reaches Release Candidate status or Stable version.
Great job so far...I really really like where CM is heading.
I have to agree with all of you in one way or another. When a person asks for help trying to locate information about their device. it really is not hard to either answer with a proper response of, Did you search for your info? Where did you look? And there certainly is no problem with going, this is what your looking for, hope i helped. (link)
As a senior member myself, i still have had times where i asked for some assistance because i could not find exactly what i was looking for, I have read, and searched, and searched, and read. and when i have asked questions... i have gotten one of two responses, here is what you are looking for, hope i helped you out. And the other being, you are not entitled to any help, go search, if you dont have time to search, you shouldn't be in the forums or modifying your device. also.. you must not mod alot of devices if you have to ask that question, you surely don't know what you are doing.
People here can be rude. if a person doesn't want to help, here is the thought.. you are entitled to keep your mouth shut instead of be a smart ass and let someone who is willing and patient to help the newbie understand what they are doing and help guide them. this is how beginners turn into our next gen of devs. and certain people acting like A**es makes them not want to be part of this community. I have gotten rid of certain devices because i couldnt tolerate the rude ignorant remarks in those device communities. it is also another reason that i dont do dev work anymore and dont post as much as i used to. People are rude.
i feel entitled to ask a question in hopes of an answer that may help me. you are entiled to keep your mouth shut if you plan on being rude in regards to said question.
to my last statement..... you have a better chance at scratching a bobcats ass, than coming up to me and talking to me in that sweet sister ass voice.
help the person or not. but at least have some dignity not to be an a**hole!!