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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
Before july 7th the unlimited data plan for $30 will have no cap which is a big plus for people who live in a 4g area. Starting on the 7th new customers will have to pick data packages what start with 2gb a month for $20 or $30. New plans suck.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
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Currently with T-Mobile, they don't throttle you until you reach 5 gb. Some plans are different but being with T-Mobile for several years and NEVER been throttled, my plan is 5 gb. I am also going to switch to Verizon to take advantage of their data plan before they change.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
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new t-mobile unlimited plans are 2gb for the special price, all others are still 5gb and they will throttle you (found out the first month).
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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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Verizon's official position is that they may throttle those that are in the top 5% of data users, esp during peak data usage times. Only been with them a couple of weeks so not sure how hard ass they are. Haven't seen anyone complain.
I've only used about 4gb so far in 2 weeks.
I've been using about 10-15 gigs a month for the last 3 years and have never seen any cap,I'm sure they will start it when the new pricing plans start but I plan to keep my service the way it is.
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I have also been told by Verizon employees that plans in place before 7/7/11 will be grandfathered. If you don't have a VZW data plan yet but have been considering it, pull the trigger before the 7th.
I have not been able to confirm that the unlimited cap on grandfathered plans will be "for life" but this has been the general consensus from what I've heard.
so there is no data throttling on verizon as of now ! cause i might just use about 10 -15 gb of 4g in a month.
verizon throttles but that was 3G... not sure if that applies to 4G... yet.
6.6gb in third week and haven't been throttled. unlike the tmobile where i got throttled to 56k speeds.
I have never heard this 5% thing before. I am on a 3g only area and can say my data is getting throttled pretty rough. Been days since I got solid speeds and my girlfriends dinc, my old phone, is getting way better speeds. I am currently over 4.5 gb this month and she is under 2.5
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Good god what do you people do to use that much data? If I TRY to use a lot, I may use 4gb in a MONTH! I just don't find out practical to watch full movies on my phone... Sure a youtube video every now and then, but not a WHOLE movie. Talk about a battery killer...
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Recently, in order to save battery whenever im home which is most of the time i switch off the 3G network and go on wifi. Since I dont have 4G coverage near my home yet its much better than running of 3G. not only has it been lowering my data usage which is small to begin with but been making my battery last forever. even on my extended battery.
I have a boring job and no super vision. plus I tether a lot...
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Well data flies when you tether,a movie on the phone might only be 300mb but the same flick on a pc it 2gb,anyway since I have been a vzw slave I have bounced as much a 20gb but average 10-15gb,i drive a truck and this is my internet,as far as speeds go some 3g markets are slow some are fast but I have never seen it throttled,as far as 4g goes fastest I have seen is phoenix, slowest was oklahoma city, los angeles is consistant all over the valley.
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I just switched to verizon yesterday after learning this so that I would be grandfathered in. I spoke to 2 different store reps and 1 online rep and they all confirmed that data usage is 100% unthrottled and uncapped if you sign up before the 7th. Now I imagine there is some fine print which says if you use 50GB in a month they can throttle you if they wish, but obviously this is well above and beyond anyone's usage pattern.
On tmobile I was routinely hitting the 2GB cap without doing much at all. I stream a lot of music while I drive, and email a lot of 5MP pictures to myself to watch on my computer so I dont have to worry about a USB cable. I also surf on my lunch break and in the evenings on the couch. I can use about 1GB a week doing this.
I think im getting throttled. my 3g used t be much faster.
David 617 said:
I think im getting throttled. my 3g used t be much faster.
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Go download speedtest and tell us what you get. Make sure you are doing this in a known good area.
I used over 70GB the first month this was out and never got throttled and still don't(Didn't have internet for that month so my phone became the internet). So its a good bet its quite high and will stay there for the unlimited people. >1MB/sec upload speeds <3 for torrents
EDIT/UPDATE: File your complaint with the FCC over the bandwidth throttle;
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
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Using AT&T and a new SGS2. I've had a grandfathered "unlimited" plan for 10 years @ $30/mo.
"Unlimited" by definition means 'without limitations, unrestricted'. I was getting over 700KB/sec download before the throttle, now I barely get 15KB/sec, it's effectively crippled my phone and certainly made GPS unusable. Calls to AT&T are pointless, they have a different definition of 'unlimited' and are telling me the throttle won't be lifted until my next billing cycle in January.
Two questions;
Does anyone else find this absurd? "Unlimited" is a very specific, non-ambiguous term.
And has anyone found a way around this?
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of course its absurd but there's no way around it
I'm not a lawyer but this seems like class-action material. It's false advertising, at the very least.
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Just wondering, how much did you use per minutes of internet before hey started throttling you?
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There's a thread in the Vivid forum discussing this. People are being throttled after as little as 1 GB. Can't figure out what their use of measure is. Calendar month? 1 GB is unacceptable. I said over there top 5% is likely a lot lower than people probably think considering tons of people on grandfathered unlimited plans probably use hardly any of their data. Smartphones are no longer for the power user. My dad as an Android phone and he might have his email setup, but I'm sure that's all the data he uses.
edit: They did find a way to change the APN to where you weren't throttled anymore though, not sure if that applies here as well.
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There's a thread in the Vivid forum discussing this. People are being throttled after as little as 1 GB. Can't figure out what their use of measure is. Calendar month? 1 GB is unacceptable. I said over there top 5% is likely a lot lower than people probably think considering tons of people on grandfathered unlimited plans probably use hardly any of their data. Smartphones are no longer for the power user. My dad as an Android phone and he might have his email setup, but I'm sure that's all the data he uses.
edit: They did find a way to change the APN to where you weren't throttled anymore though, not sure if that applies here as well.
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Not throttled yet. 10GB last month and about 3gb this month so far
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Not throttled yet. 10GB last month and about 3gb this month so far
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That's the complaint there, can't figure out what's triggering the throttling.
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edit: They did find a way to change the APN to where you weren't throttled anymore though, not sure if that applies here as well.
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That works only for LTE phones. They hit the Throttle on the LTE data, they can switch APNs to use HSPA+ data at full HSPA+ speeds. So they go from 30+ Mbps on LTE to like 0.25 Mbps, then switch to HSPA+ and get 6-8 Mbps.
In my area I get 2-3, at best on HSPA+. I use 6-8 GB on a normal month, as high at 10.5 one month. I have never been throttled.
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That works only for LTE phones. They hit the Throttle on the LTE data, they can switch APNs to use HSPA+ data at full HSPA+ speeds. So they go from 30+ Mbps on LTE to like 0.25 Mbps, then switch to HSPA+ and get 6-8 Mbps.
In my area I get 2-3, at best on HSPA+. I use 6-8 GB on a normal month, as high at 10.5 one month. I have never been throttled.
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I feel like I'm capped at 3 Mbps. No matter what it tops out at that. Kinda odd if I'm not capped.
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I feel like I'm capped at 3 Mbps. No matter what it tops out at that. Kinda odd if I'm not capped.
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3G and Faug G data speeds vary greatly by market. I think LTE is fairly consistent market to market, and in those markets the HSPA+ data is generally 8-11 Mbps.
Some people complain when they are throttled down to 100KB/s, something that's a good day for me.
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To answer those that asked, and yes, I admit this might seem ridiculous, but I did ~10.6GB in 14 days. Prior to that, I averaged 10-20GB a month with no hassles. With the new phone, the $0.10 Google market sale and a lot of experiementing, it was higher than expected with the new speeds. Still, "unlimited" is unlimited.
The notice I got came in the form a text, informing me that I should check their data plans (again, I have unlimited, why would I care?) and then a second notice that came in hours later - sometime around 4-5am that read:
"ATT Free Msg: Your data use is approaching the top 5% of users. Avoid reduced data speeds, use Wi-Fi where available. Visit att.com/dataplans or call 866-344-7584"
That's it. The warning came but I was already throttled and the "smart" part of my phone is effectively useless.
Read this story it explains how AT$T determines who should get throttled.
In a nut shell if you live in a area that has high data usage then the threshold is a lot higher then if you live in a area that has low data usage.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/AT-T-iPhone-data-throttle-4G-2G,news-13445.html
Dude 25GB is excessive!
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But the i777 doesn't have LTE.....right?
Can't we sue at t for throttling since we never signed up for throttled plan.. It suppose to be unlimited and they are not throttling other data plans
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It doesn't say anywhere in your agreement you are set to get certain speeds. It also says all over that att will do whatever they deem necessary if they feel your use can cause detrimental affects on other users.
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Made an update to my earlier post. My account on att.com reports that I did 10.6GB and was roughly half-way into my billing cycle.
Since their nerfbat hits entire neighborhoods (by design) it makes for some ridiculous scenarios. This **** was obviously derived by committee.
Question: Is it even possible to consume all of the data in your plan if you are restricted to 2G? No. It's not.
AT&T's plan caps can't even be consumed at 2G speeds, it would be fun to see a class-action against AT&T for failure to fulfill contract by deliberate act.
Scenario:
1) you use a bunch of data quickly to DL something in the beginning of the month.
2) AT&T flags you and demotes you to 2G for the remainder of the month.
3) At full 2G speed, you DL everything you can, but are only able to use up 2/3 of your paid data plan simply because it is not possible to use more than that with 2G in a month.
While you're stuck at 2G, your 3G-equipped neighbor is now in the top 5% and gets demoted to 2G, too.
Yes, I smell class-action.
Tried once more to get a rep on the phone, it's pointless. This is a direct quote:
"Sir, I realize you have an unlimited plan but we've placed a limitation on it."
AT$T use a different dictionary to define 'unlimited'. Even if they wanted to, nobody can remove the throttle until the billing cylcle ends. Bastards.
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Tried once more to get a rep on the phone, it's pointless. This is a direct quote:
"Sir, I realize you have an unlimited plan but we've placed a limitation on it."
AT$T use a different dictionary to define 'unlimited'. Even if they wanted to, nobody can remove the throttle until the billing cylcle ends. Bastards.
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Technically you are unlimited, they're not completely shutting down your data. You can still transfer all day long, just at a slow pace.
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Creative English at it's best. ATT: Oh we didn't mean unlimited we were saying "Hey, its uhh, limited. "
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Is there any app that hides my usage from att? Even though iam not tethering i would like to hide my usage they send me a letter saying iam one of top 5% that uses data heavily and that they would lower my speeds if i keep using my "unlimited" plan
So stupid ill sue them if they do
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not possible. plus that's fraud.
Ik its fraud but wouldnt be fraud from them to lower my speeeds cause i sign a contract for unlimited meaning all i want to use if they drop it to E is like not having internet is useless..... And thank you anyways
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Its data on there network, how do u propose to hide it? Also u are unlimited, just throttled. They arnt limiting the amount of data. Common Sense?
Want to hide your data usage from AT&T? Use wifi.
There is a way to hide the data u tether thats why i wondered if there was an app for hiding the actual amount that we use....... I guess not thank u all for ur time and explanations
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There is a way to hide the data u tether thats why i wondered if there was an app for hiding the actual amount that we use....... I guess not thank u all for ur time and explanations
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You can't hide ANY data while using their network. All you can do is hide the fact that you ARE tethering, not that you're using extra data all of a sudden.
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Its data on there network, how do u propose to hide it? Also u are unlimited, just throttled. They arnt limiting the amount of data. Common Sense?
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Just to play devils advocate here:
By throttling they technically are limiting the amount of data. If you can only download at .3Mbps that means you are only able to download ~97GB in a 30 day period. Say you get throttled for the last week of your billing cycle that means you can only download 22GB that week. This is opposed to the ~260GB you could download on HSPA, the ~590GB you could download in a week at HSPA+ speeds, and the ~2.2TB you could download in a week at LTE speeds.
Yes this does prove there is no such thing as an unlimited plan, but it does prove that they are limiting the amount of data you can download in a given period of time.
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Just to play devils advocate here:
By throttling they technically are limiting the amount of data. If you can only download at .3Mbps that means you are only able to download ~97GB in a 30 day period. Say you get throttled for the last week of your billing cycle that means you can only download 22GB that week. This is opposed to the ~260GB you could download on HSPA, the ~590GB you could download in a week at HSPA+ speeds, and the ~2.2TB you could download in a week at LTE speeds.
Yes this does prove there is no such thing as an unlimited plan, but it does prove that they are limiting the amount of data you can download in a given period of time.
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That's a good point. I'm sure that would work if someone wanted to take AT&T to small claims court. But then again as long as I've had "unlimited" through them, there was always a 5GB cap that was spelled out in the fine print of my contract. The only exception to that was for iPhone users. That's the only reason I switched to an iPhone a couple years back.
What contract? There is no contract for data, only for voice. There are Terms of Service but no contract.
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Is there any app that hides my usage from att? Even though iam not tethering i would like to hide my usage they send me a letter saying iam one of top 5% that uses data heavily and that they would lower my speeds if i keep using my "unlimited" plan
So stupid ill sue them if they do
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Take them to small claims court. They've already lost once before recently for throttling. http://consumerist.com/2012/03/att-writes-check-to-victor-in-small-claims-court-suit.html
I just exceeded the 5G limit and they lowered my speeds down to 0.60mbps or lower at some points.... they said my speedz will be back when my next billing cycle starts
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Switch to Sprint.
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down to .60 mbps? thats not bad.. I'm on Sprint and 3g usually averages .50 mbps..
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down to .60 mbps? thats not bad.. I'm on Sprint and 3g usually averages .50 mbps..
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That's because sprint and Verizon's 3g blows. 3g on ATT is faster than Wimax 4g for sprint in most areas.
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I just exceeded the 5G limit and they lowered my speeds down to 0.60mbps or lower at some points.... they said my speedz will be back when my next billing cycle starts
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that really sucks that they're limiting you, I assume you're in a busy area and that's going to be expected. Like one of the other posters suggested, try using WiFi. If I recall you can cruise to any place that has AT&T wifi and get it free (like starbucks and McDonalds and sams club) and do your major downloading there. I know that isn't on the go, but if you want a coffee, it isn't the worst suggestion.
I have had the same question for awhile now. I am using Simple mobile 4G unlimited data (so they so boldly advertize until they shut you down). I really wanted to take advantage of the "Mobile on the go". In my vehicle I have Bluetooth that would allow me to stream music on the go (On my long commute through Houston everyday), or use Netflix on that long tripe with the family & tether to my Tablet to take care of business, stream, movies. You get the point.
As for down loading, I am not sure why you would want to do any major downloading through a phone anyway. Using your home network is much better for major downloading.
This is my experience with ATT Unlimited Data Plan:
I got grandfathered into the unlimited data plan through my old iphone original, if my memory serves me correct. I don't use data heavily like some of you do and I tether infrequently. Last summer, we were at a community swimming pool where we live and I let my daughter to tether to my Samsung android phone. My daughter at the time had an iphone 3gs. About two weeks later, I got a nasty message from att telling me that they noticed that I was tethering and that they will put me on an appropriate data plan if I don't call them back. So, I called and played dumb and they told me that if I ever tether again, they will go ahead and terminate my unlimited data plan.
I received a Samsung Note 10.1 (model #8013) for christmas, and guess what? I have tethered the tablet to my android phone, thinking they won't notice the android traffic coming from an android phone. I have been careful, not downloading tablet-specific apps from the play store and such. Also, I only tether when there's no wifi, it's the last resort. It's been over a month and I haven't heard from them. I am sure ATT is chomping at the bits to get me so they can get rid of one more unlimited data user.
Am I committing a fraud? Maybe. I'd like to think I am engaging in a civil disobedience against an unjust power.
Isn't AT&T also committing a fraud, when they are advertisizing "unlimited" when in fact there's a limit?
The amount of data is unlimited. And they do warn you if you go above a certain amount they will throttle you down. And they let you know the plan is for one phone only and offer you a tethering add-on. They offer thousands of free hotspots for heavy downloaders and give you an app to find them.
Its their superhighway - you just pay the tolls and follow the rules. You don't like them, but it's not fraud on their part.
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Long time lurker, don't really post much. I've had the UDP for a long while now, and have tethered a lot with no issues. this week
i've been throttled heavily not just tethering but in normal usage. I"m still in contract on my UDP as well. I've tried flashing a different rom to make sure i didn't mess any settings up or anything happened with Alliance rom26, but its still happening, after reverting back to Stock. Connection will be fine for awhile than all of a sudden super slow.
I didn't think they were starting this until October??? It hasn't happened at all before....
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All,
Long time lurker, don't really post much. I've had the UDP for a long while now, and have tethered a lot with no issues. this week
i've been throttled heavily not just tethering but in normal usage. I"m still in contract on my UDP as well. I've tried flashing a different rom to make sure i didn't mess any settings up or anything happened with Alliance rom26, but its still happening, after reverting back to Stock. Connection will be fine for awhile than all of a sudden super slow.
I didn't think they were starting this until October??? It hasn't happened at all before....
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Maybe its begun..
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Maybe its begun..
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reflashed the MJ9 firmware and its speeds are a bit more stable, but if it does happen again, will update. likely i am assuming it will..
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reflashed the MJ9 firmware and its speeds are a bit more stable, but if it does happen again, will update. likely i am assuming it will..
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still throttling after reflashing the firmware this morning.
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still throttling after reflashing the firmware this morning.
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What kind of data usage do you normally hit? I'm UDP but not a heavy user, in fact I should drop it and share with the wife. I have not had any slowness.
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What kind of data usage do you normally hit? I'm UDP but not a heavy user, in fact I should drop it and share with the wife. I have not had any slowness.
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last month 230 gigs (no internet at home- only options are TWC and ATT DSL) this month 30gigs with the end of the month being end of cycle.
230 gigs?! No wonder they are throttling you. Even 30 gigs would probably be cause for them to throttle you.
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last month 230 gigs (no internet at home- only options are TWC and ATT DSL) this month 30gigs with the end of the month being end of cycle.
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I see why they throttle you lol.
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I was getting on average of 15-18mbps a month ago but now I am getting on average 3-4mbps. Pretty crappy but that is why Verizon is no longer the #1 carrier in my eyes.
230 gigs through a cell phone is excessive. I use the crap out if mine and barely make 4 gigs. I can't even imagine 230 gigs.
Driodx isnt the only one using that amount of data last month I hit 263 gigs I stream a lot,Netflix etc. After I rolled over this month im at 70 gigs so I say unlimited should be unlimited I pay 29 for unlimited and its 30 for 2 gigs the basic data plan Verizon's greed is running a muck
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I have grandfathered unlimited data, and I only use 2-3 GB / month. sounds like some of you guys are the reason my data speeds have been so slow lately...i.e., tower congestion as opposed to throttling. I for one am OK with VZW's plan.
Wait a second your saying tower congestion is to blame and putting that on those who use their unlimited data as an unlimit to which means NO LIMIT as the reason for your slow connect (one word) location you live in NJ where as im in the country in kansas a half mile from the tower I connect to I highly doubt that affects your data speed no its Verizon's decision to throttle and force those of us on an unlimited plan to change simply because of greed
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... as the reason for your slow connect (one word) location you live in NJ where as im in the country in kansas a half mile from the tower I connect to I highly doubt that affects your data speed ...
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hey man, I hate this over populated state and all I want to do is escape to the country someday, but I'm stuck here at the moment, you don't have to rub it in.
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I have grandfathered unlimited data, and I only use 2-3 GB / month. sounds like some of you guys are the reason my data speeds have been so slow lately...i.e., tower congestion as opposed to throttling. I for one am OK with VZW's plan.
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I'm in the 5-9 GB myself but am surprised that you're satisfied with VZW limiting our speeds because you have low usage. VZW ought to be expanding their network capacity with more towers and more fiber trunks than throttling paying customers.
They've begun throttling me in so cal, i use about 10-30 gigs a month but its all twitch streaming, youtube videos, netflix. Nothing nefarious. Sometimes getting the google.com page to load up takes a min, thats how bad they are throttling. Its horrible.
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I'm in the 5-9 GB myself but am surprised that you're satisfied with VZW limiting our speeds because you have low usage. VZW ought to be expanding their network capacity with more towers and more fiber trunks than throttling paying customers.
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I'm not happy with VZW throttling, it would definitely be much better if they upgraded their network to support more bandwidth. I have been buying phones at full retail just to hang on to my unlimited data plan, that's how much I want to keep it.
the problem is none of us are under contract for unlimited data anymore, the two year contracts have all expired (or will soon). so basically VZW can do whatever they want to maximize profit - they can throttle the heaviest users or they can terminate the unlimited data plans entirely and force all of us back on 2 Gb plans. that's what I want to avoid. I would rather keep unlimited data and be forced to stay below their stated throttling threshold (5 Gb per billing cycle) than lose it entirely and be limited to 2Gb per billing cycle.
I was able to keep my unlimited data when I purchased a new phone and started a new 2 year contract by using the best buy website trick.
issues also going on with others via reddit;
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskLosAngel...ne_else_having_trouble_with_verizon_wireless/
They tried to steal my UDP. I've noticed that occasionally it goes to a crawl. As of now I'm on stock rooted 4.4.2 unlocked. Everything else runs great. I'd say on a really data heavy month (using pbay etc) I can get to 20 but I usually float around 10-15
I've been consistently getting 30 mbps easily and I've gone 11 GB into my cycle in 10 days. And my connection has been slow like this for this last 2 days. Network optimization my ass. This is complete crap (MOD edit: profanity removed).
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Optimizing or throttling? 11gb leads me to believe you have an unlimited plan and they have begun throttling you...but who knows...either way it sucks when a network slows you speeds down
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Optimizing or throttling? 11gb leads me to believe you have an unlimited plan and they have begun throttling you...but who knows...either way it sucks when a network slows you speeds down
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I use those quotes loosely. They are throttling me. I am on unlimited and have never had any issues with throttled speeds until recently. I'm referring to the network optimization for unlimited data plans where they throttle only when you're using a tower that's congested and you're over only 4.7 GB of data for a month which is the average. That's complete crap (again mod edit) because now that roughly 78% of Verizon users are on a tiered data plan and I'm sure a majority of them only use their 2GB to prevent overage charges.
Anyways, they stated it wouldn't start until October and I'm already experiencing decreased speeds.
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I use those quotes loosely. They are throttling me. I am on unlimited and have never had any issues with throttled speeds until recently. I'm referring to the network optimization for unlimited data plans where they throttle only when you're using a tower that's congested and you're over only 4.7 GB of data for a month which is the average. That's complete crap (again mod edit) because now that roughly 78% of Verizon users are on a tiered data plan and I'm sure a majority of them only use their 2GB to prevent overage charges.
Anyways, they stated it wouldn't start until October and I'm already experiencing decreased speeds.
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What did you get before that? Personally I wouldn't down on 30 to much. Came from att was lucky on lte to get 25
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mkfryan said:
What did you get before that? Personally I wouldn't down on 30 to much. Came from att was lucky on lte to get 25
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No I'm getting throttled down to about 3 mbps. I've been trying to post a screenshot of my speeds but it won't post on the xda app. Going from 30 mps to 3 mbps is a pretty significant decrease in my opinion.
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graymonkey44 said:
No I'm getting throttled down to about 3 mbps. I've been trying to post a screenshot of my speeds but it won't post on the xda app. Going from 30 mps to 3 mbps is a pretty significant decrease in my opinion.
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I'm sure it's already started. I live out in the boondocks (with a tower not far from me that doesn't server any large towns, but DOES service a semi-major highway), and I went over 4.7GB last week and, sure enough, as soon as I went over, BAM! My 12-15mbps speed went down to .5-1.5mbps.
I was tethering, but I don't pull a TON of data each month (I hover around 10-11GB for the month, at the most); I mainly use it as low-latency connections for online games.
there's no way that tower was 'crowded' at that time of night (9PM). Speeds weren't restored until morning.
If they throttle us down to 3mbps its still a lot better that att and tmob throttling down to 56kbps from what I've read previously lol
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Yeah I've heard that the throttling was supposed to be in October but it seems they got the months mixed up. I've been unlimited for years and up to today I haven't experienced any slow down. Where I live is not a congested stress I wouldn't think but that doesn't mean they won't start on me as well. My speed is only around 10 down at anytime with any phone but i wouldn't want to show down much more. I knew sooner or later they would get us. Jesse
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I don't see how is legal to throttle unlimited at 5 gig and not throttle a 10 gig plan at 5 gig.
It seems like it would be but that don't mean they won't do it anyway. Jesse
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Seems like a class action suite may be in order.
What I would like to see is how the "average" of 4.7 GB was calculated.
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11GB in 10 days?
Maybe it's because I never had the luxury of ever having unlimited data because when I got my first smartphone, Verizon had already gotten rid of unlimited and I haven't ever been on a different carrier, but I can't even begin to fathom how someone can uses that much data unless they do some serious media consumption/torrenting daily.
I don't even know what I'd do with unlimited data. ~3GB is my monthly usage.
Sucks that Verizon is going to throttle unlimited users, but they'll do ANYTHING to get you off of the plan (other than pay you to).
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11GB in 10 days?
Maybe it's because I never had the luxury of ever having unlimited data because when I got my first smartphone, Verizon had already gotten rid of unlimited and I haven't ever been on a different carrier, but I can't even begin to fathom how someone can uses that much data unless they do some serious media consumption/torrenting daily.
I don't even know what I'd do with unlimited data. ~3GB is my monthly usage.
Sucks that Verizon is going to throttle unlimited users, but they'll do ANYTHING to get you off of the plan (other than pay you to).
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I could use 10 GB in a day, easily. Downloaded a couple 3GB 1080p movies in that time period. I use it for my girlfriend's house as a wifi hotspot constantly. I use it for streaming Netflix. Once my 2 TB portable hard drive comes in. I'm going to start my quest for using 1 TB of data in a month as one final screw you to Verizon
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Heck I can easily use 10GB in one day downloading ROMs. Certainly can use 10GB in 10 days using my Slingbox as well. Not that hard at all to do.
Thankfully I haven't seen the optimization happen yet and I am running at about 10gB per month. What will be interesting is how bad it gets when verizon starts turning on all the VoLTE cities and seeing how quickly the unlimited data customers get optimized into hell because they need the bandwidth for the voice data.
Complain to the FCC chairman - the selective throttling of udp customers is not network optimization, it is profit optimization. They are fine with a user using 100GB a month if they pay $375/mo for it; they are not fine with you using 5GB/mo if you only pay $29.99/mo for it.
Verizon's throttling has nothing to do with network congestion and everything to do with profit maximization.
Here is where you complain:
fcc.gov/leadership/tom-wheeler-mail
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Complain to the FCC chairman - the selective throttling of udp customers is not network optimization, it is profit optimization. They are fine with a user using 100GB a month if they pay $375/mo for it; they are not fine with you using 5GB/mo if you only pay $29.99/mo for it.
Verizon's throttling has nothing to do with network congestion and everything to do with profit maximization.
Here is where you complain:
fcc.gov/leadership/tom-wheeler-mail
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still haven't seen any slowdown, but i live in a rural area. As long as they stick to their statement about when they will throttle, i should be fine. Averaging 13gbs a month mostly streaming music and flashing roms.