[Q] handcent and stock messages - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi folks,
Just wondered if someone has come across this bug bear of mine and found a solution to it.
I use handcent for my messages instead of the built in stock message app but I have noticed that despite going into settings and telling the stock app NOT to retrieve messages and told handcent TO retrieve messages that although I only get a handcent notification when a message is received that the reality is that both apps have the messages sent to me.
Now this is a bug bear as I have handcent protected from prying eyes for my messages but cant do the same with the stock app. If anything I would prefer to remove the stock app altogether.
Has anyone come across this as well and found a solution?
Cheers in advance.

I noticed yesterday the same thing. It was seemed to be after last handcent update. I didn't look for a solution yet.

Ivan_Belarus said:
I noticed yesterday the same thing. It was seemed to be after last handcent update. I didn't look for a solution yet.
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Cheers for sharing, I thought I was missing some option or something as never noticed the problem before. I stupidly removed the messages from the stock app thinking my handcent ones would be ok.....nope they went and were wiped also
Not sure if this again is something to do with the update or if thats normal to happen.
What a bugger!

Now I checked handcent settings. I was quite surprised - there's no option "use as default (or something similar) anymore! After update. That explains the problem, I guess.

I have been using handcent for more than a year now, and I always see the sms in both apps..., I do not think this is a bug. But you can remove the MMS.APK in the system folder if you have root, and that would fix your problem. But... when I did this in my Milestone it have some problems with the sms, the notifications where delayed... you get the screen popup notification and 5 or 10 seconds later the sound... but this was for the Milestone 1, you can move the spk and save it as backup and test it.

I have emailed them asking about it, if I hear anything I will put it up.....crazy though really they have done this :-(

FenixSI said:
I have been using handcent for more than a year now, and I always see the sms in both apps..., I do not think this is a bug.
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Nope, that's a real bug. I've just rolled back on 3.9.5 revision (I have it in Titanium backup) - the problem has gone! I have "Default messaging app" in the Settings again!

And you only see the sms in handcent??? becouse i have allways have it as defaul app but allways seen the sms in both....

FenixSI said:
And you only see the sms in handcent??? .
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Surely. That was the issue.

Both apps use the same SMS/MMS database created by android. I know of no other app that uses it's own. Your only option is to root and remove the messaging.apk from /system/app/

Ivan_Belarus said:
Nope, that's a real bug. I've just rolled back on 3.9.5 revision (I have it in Titanium backup) - the problem has gone! I have "Default messaging app" in the Settings again!
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Just had a look on my titanium backup and its currently running version 3.9.8 and I can only roll back as far as 3.9.7.
If you roll back do you loose your current messages? And do you know of hand if rolling back to 3.9.7 will benefit?

Electroz said:
Both apps use the same SMS/MMS database created by android. I know of no other app that uses it's own. Your only option is to root and remove the messaging.apk from /system/app/
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So the option of only letting handcent retrieve messages must in a way block the stock message app from retrieving them, though the stock app is there in the background?
As said earlier, didnt have the problem before of both retrieving messages and as pointed out the recent update may be reason

gz023247 said:
Just had a look on my titanium backup and its currently running version 3.9.8 and I can only roll back as far as 3.9.7.
If you roll back do you loose your current messages? And do you know of hand if rolling back to 3.9.7 will benefit?
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No, all my messages still with me I don't know about 3.9.7. Just try to restore the app with data. Nothing to lose.

Well I have rolled back and no data was lost, phew! However I have chosen the option from the menu stating disable stock and allow handcent to be default and still the same :-(
Maybe this problem has been for the last 2 updates.
Something else I noticed, the led no longer seems to flash. Not sure if this is something related to custom rom on lite'ning or not. Did you also encounter this? Would it be possible to install an older version of handcent from somewhere do you think?
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I attach ver.3.9.5
Just install it over your one.
Which LED do you mean? SGSII has no LEDs
Probably you do use BLN or NOLED app?
If it doesnt help just go into standard SMS app setting - on the bottom - uncheck Status Bar Notifications.

Ivan_Belarus said:
I attach ver.3.9.5
Just install it over your one.
Which LED do you mean? SGSII has no LEDs
Probably you do use BLN or NOLED app?
If it doesnt help just go into standard SMS app setting - on the bottom - uncheck Status Bar Notifications.
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Hi fella,
Thanks for the Russian version? lol? Eh lol? Anyhow went ahead and installed it via dropbox and though it said it was overwriting the previous version nothing changed and when looking still seems to be version 3.9.7.
Ref to status bar notifications, I only get one notification which is via handcent, thats fine, no problems there, just this annoying point of duplicate messages.
Ref LED, I meant the blinking light when messages come through, usually you can choose between colours etc, but even when deciding what colour of notification I want blinking I never see it lol!
Cant get over your Russian file!

Electroz said:
Both apps use the same SMS/MMS database created by android. I know of no other app that uses it's own. Your only option is to root and remove the messaging.apk from /system/app/
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Well took the plunge and used titanium back up application and simply uninstalled the the stock message app and now its gone only have handcent as the main app, so that suits me.
I checked on a another s2 that has stock rom and running handcent and that flashy reminder led light option although selected doesnt work, so it would strengthen that the s2 has no led at the front of the phone like the x10....how odd.

Oh. I'm sorry, I tapped on next file when was sending it, I have sent you a language pack. You can remove it through Appllication Management. It names "Handcent SMS Russian Language".
Now I'm attaching the correct original apk 3.9.5. I'm terribly sorry!

lol, its fine fella, don't worry about it....was quite funny really lol!
Cheers for the file

gz023247 said:
I checked on a another s2 that has stock rom and running handcent and that flashy reminder led light option although selected doesnt work, so it would strengthen that the s2 has no led at the front of the phone like the x10....how odd.
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It's a Samsung thing. The original Galaxy S never had it either and for that matter the original Galaxy never had one either....

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(Solved) I'm getting two notifications for texts

I know I know google it.. Well I have and no one has the same thing.. That I can find anyways (There is an ocean of posts) every time i get a text message i get two notifications from messages. I have searched and I don't have any secoundary text apps and its not my rom cause my friend has the rom to and doesn't have the same problem. Below is a screenshot hope this helps and thanks for your time
Also when i click on the NEW MESSAGE(S) nothing happens it just closes the notification bar
Looks like you are using handcent. Turn off incoming notifications in your stock messaging app.
Blundered from my Dunderbolt
As stated above "I don't have any secoundary text apps"
Please read my whole post
You definitely have some other app that is notifying you.
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As stated in the forum rules. This thread does not belong in the development section.
Read the whole forum rules. lol
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As stated in the forum rules. This thread does not belong in the development section.
Read the whole forum rules. lol
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lol ok ok but while this thread is still located here.. Can you please help me find this (secondary) app. I have gone through Titanium Backup and applications under settings and have found nothing.
Are you sure it's not the text app and some other HTC sense app?
Nilius17 said:
Are you sure it's not the text app and some other HTC sense app?
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I am using Virus Senseless so I doubt its htc sense.. But like I mentioned my friend has the same setup as me but doesn't get two notifications.
I had this same problem when I was using Thunderbolt Kang and I did a full wipe so I am not sure.
The icon looks like the handcent notification. I know you said you don't have another sms app installed, but that's what mine looks like.
crookshanks said:
The icon looks like the handcent notification. I know you said you don't have another sms app installed, but that's what mine looks like.
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Here is a screenshot of me not having handcent
Try turning off the default SMS app and see if you only get a single notification.
Also, try clearing the defaults on the built-in SMS app, then try texting someone through Contacts app. It should give you a list of SMS apps to text with. You would be able to see the other SMS app there.
That looks like a general inbox notification for an app that groups things like gmail, email, sms & mms.
cigar3tte said:
Try turning off the default SMS app and see if you only get a single notification.
Also, try clearing the defaults on the built-in SMS app, then try texting someone through Contacts app. It should give you a list of SMS apps to text with. You would be able to see the other SMS app there.
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I did this just now and no luck the only thing I had pop up under contacts was google voice so I uninstalled it and had no luck with this either. Still got 2 notifications..
The only other thing I have that affects my systems is ringopro but I uninstalled that too and had the same problem.
not sure why you haven't thought of this, but why not just click the notifications from the bar and see exactly which two apps they direct you to. turn notifications off in the one you don't use. problem solved?
travishamockery said:
not sure why you haven't thought of this, but why not just click the notifications from the bar and see exactly which two apps they direct you to. turn notifications off in the one you don't use. problem solved?
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I think he stated that he did try that...
superdusto said:
Also when i click on the NEW MESSAGE(S) nothing happens it just closes the notification bar
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travishamockery said:
not sure why you haven't thought of this, but why not just click the notifications from the bar and see exactly which two apps they direct you to. turn notifications off in the one you don't use. problem solved?
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Please read from start
"when i click on the NEW MESSAGE(S) nothing happens it just closes the notification bar"
I can only open the text from the one with a smiley face in it
I found the problem at a long and tedious process of wiping and restore each app at a time
Come to find out Beautiful Widgets 2 was causing it... Well thank God I was able to find it and thank you guys for still pointing me in the direction of it being an app... Who could have guessed
I had a problem similar to that. This is what I did.... I went into setting for my sms app. Turned off all the notifications than restarted my phone and than after booted up go back into settings and turn them back on. If that doses work back up all your apps and such than restore your phone.
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How to switch off SMS delivery notification sound?

Is there a way to turn off the SMS delivery notification sound but keep the SMS received notification sound?
Not sure on the stock app, on handcent all the sounds/notifications can be modified or removed.
I use SMS Go Pro and it allows you to turn off SMS delivery notifications. That's the beauty of Android. Don't like the SMS app? Get a different one!
Anyone else?
I want to keep stock SMS app.
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t0ph0id said:
Anyone else?
I want to keep stock SMS app.
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I too want to know this. Perhaps its possible to edit the code for the app itself just like the camera app has been modified?
Yeah, it can be tough on some of the stock android software since development minded folks seldom want to mess with something that already has multiple fully fleshed out apps to replace it. I kinda like touch wiz once its dewizified but there is almost nothing out there that you can add on to it or use to modify it. I did think of one thing though, they added some new setting adjustments into the messaging app in CM7. You might want to consider grabbing that and seeing if it brings this to the table. I cant recall all the changes in it as I didn't use it. That would be kinda stock messaging.
*BUMP*
Has anyone come up with a solution to this, or are we forced to use another app for SMS? I really like the stock app, but are very annoyed by the fact that I cannot change this sound or remove it.
My problem is completely the opposite, I am trying to turn the notification on with no luck.
neither sms go pro or stock are responding, ticked all boxes i.e. sounds, sms options...etc with no luck.
any ideas...running ics 4.0.4 on sg3

[Q] FACTORY Samsung Vibrant sms popup

Does anyone knows the file name for the factory program that makes the sms popup on the Samsung Vibrant? I want to re-install that program to enable sms alerts when a new text is received. No, I don't want an aftermarket sms popup from a different developer so please don't guide me to an aftermarket one. I just want to revert back to factory sms popup for the sms alerts.
Thank you.
Maybe it's been too long since I've run stock but I don't remember that ever being on here other than 3rd party...
Are you sure the Factory stock Vibrant had an sms popup? I don't ever remember it having this.
I use go sms but there is handcent also both are great
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I'm sure the Vibrant has a "factory" sms popup function. Before I rooted my phone, it had the ability to turn the screen on and show the sms envelope alerting me I have a text message or it would show the gmail envelope alerting me I have an email. Since I rooted my phone I have to use 'Glance' app which works pretty much like the factory one (YES, I know, but I want the factory one back). There has to be some file name I can find using 'Explorer' app but I can find it. By they way I've been looking into this on my wife's phone which has not been rooted. I know it's there. If I was able to copy the 'battery charging' sound from her phone to mine, I'm sure I can copy that sms popup file as well. Any clues anyone?
Thanks.
I don't understand why rooting your phone would cause you to lose a feature. It shouldn't and doesn't.
I'm a big fan of the stock Touchwiz, and I never remember any SMS popup.
Are you sure you have a USA T-Mobile Vibrant T959? I can't ever remember anything popping up saying you have an SMS. Are you talking about the notification bar? Or maybe NoLEd app found in the market?
joselamar said:
I'm sure the Vibrant has a "factory" sms popup function. Before I rooted my phone, it had the ability to turn the screen on and show the sms envelope alerting me I have a text message or it would show the gmail envelope alerting me I have an email. Since I rooted my phone I have to use 'Glance' app which works pretty much like the factory one (YES, I know, but I want the factory one back). There has to be some file name I can find using 'Explorer' app but I can find it. By they way I've been looking into this on my wife's phone which has not been rooted. I know it's there. If I was able to copy the 'battery charging' sound from her phone to mine, I'm sure I can copy that sms popup file as well. Any clues anyone?
Thanks.
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That sounds like you're talking about the notification icon, it should be enabled by default but check the settings in your SMS app, there is an option to enable/disable it.
Ok guys, I guess I was not clear enough on what I was trying to explain. What I mean by sms popup is when you get a text message or email the phone screen turns on for about a minute or so and an icon displays on the top left of the notification bar. If anyone knows how to get this stock feature back on the phone please feel free to share that info. After rooting my phone with Axura ROM I lost that feature and the screen does not turn on anymore. I don't want any aftermarket apps I already have 'Glance' which works fine but once I get the stock one back I will get rid of 'Glance' app. Hope this clarifies confusions.
Thanks
kxlling
I have the settings for sms set already to display notification in status bar but to no avail. Axura ROM took that out.
Have you tried replacing the SMS app with one from another ROM? Or just reinstalling it?
I've never had that issue, but I've never tried axura either...
This may be far fetched, but could the theme you're using be washing it out? I've had it happen before where the theme was the same colors and you couldn't see the notifications.
Sounds like you need the touchwiz mms.apk. The stock Android one doesn't support screen on function. You can pull the file from another ROM and push it through or search the apps section for non-blurry mms by explodingboy. He has the files for both 2.2 and 2.3 roms I believe.
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I'm going to reinstall it and see how it goes. I'm not sure if Axura is washing out the app but I wouldn't doubt it. I'll let you know what happens.
Thanks
I already have Glance. This app works just like the one that came with the phone before rooting. Check it out you might like it.
See if you can find a compatible touchwiz app that works with Axura. Barring that, I suggest you either switch back to a Touchwiz enabled ROM, settle for a third party app solution, or try MIUI. MIUI does not have Touchwiz MMS, but it does have the feature of turning the screen on and/or giving notification updates and/or popup updates when you get texts.
Oh, and you can also theme the ever loving crap out of it. And it's generally wonderful.
You're talking about the so called "toast" notification icon on the status bar. Popup is when you get a message and the message itself pops up in a window over your home/lockscreen or whatever app you're running at that time. Anyways, seriously, I know you said you dont want a aftermarket app and I dont know about Glance or why you won't prefer it over your stock sms/mms app but you should consider installing Handcent SMS. Its very custumizable and has that real "popup" feature I was talking about earlier and its just plain way way better than the stock app and I see no reason whatsoever to not use it over your stock app and best of all its FREE!
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Thanks everyone for your inputs, I appreciate them. I guess I'll stick with the 'Glance' app, I like the way it works on my phone and I can customize it to however I want.

[Q] HUGE Annoying Messaging Problem On Stock

I have a huge and annoying messaging problem on stock. Here's my problem. I text somone and the conversation is formed. When they text me back their message pops up on top of mine and says I've received it at a completely different time! When I text back, the message appears directly below my other message I sent... and so on.. So the messages get all jumbled up! This is REALLYannoying.. HELP?
ANYONE????!!!!
Which ROM are you using and which messaging app?
I'm using stock ROM (2.1 Update 1 with sense).. with the default messaging app.
timbohobbs said:
Which ROM are you using and which messaging app?
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You know my problem? or not?
Ok. One thing to try. Go to 'manage applications ' then delete data from messages app. This shouldn't delete your messages but you may want to back them up first. Then restart your phone. That is all I can suggest, unless you have thousands of messages, in which case I' d suggest to delete quite a few. Other than that I don't know unless its a carrier problem.
Just thought of one more obvious answer. Go to date and time settings and see if 'network provided values' is checked
timbohobbs said:
Just thought of one more obvious answer. Go to date and time settings and see if 'network provided values' is checked
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Tried it, I'm texting someone now and once I get the response back I should be able to tell if ticking this option changed anything
timbohobbs said:
Just thought of one more obvious answer. Go to date and time settings and see if 'network provided values' is checked
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Aw man. It didn't work Too bad. Thanks for the help anyway. I'll continue my searches.
The time stamps for the incoming text messages seem to arrive at completely different times (FYI)
Anyways if you could offer any further help, it would be greatly appreciated.
I solved it.. I installed SMS Time Fix by Matthew Precious (from the android market) and it fixed my problem.. Thanks for all the help though

Duplicate sent SMS with Handcent/GoSMS in LPQ ? (not in LPH)

I upgraded to XXLPQ (polish) from XXLPH yesterday.
I'm now seeing duplicate (2, somebody said 3) SMS's sent to a recipient for each one I send.
Received texts aren't duplicated
Only goSMS (or handcent) is set to notify
"stock" SMS app does NOT lead to duplicates
This didn't happen in XXLPH
Wanted to check if anyone else has this issue? Next step is probably clearing SMS data or indeed a full wipe
I got the same situation here. Everything Ok with stock messaging, but with Go Sms Pro, it duplicate sms >.< Looking for solution !!
Yep, same here, though i updated from gingerbread not from an ics beta.
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Same here, guess its an App issue then?
superleeds27 said:
Same here, guess its an App issue then?
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It seems more likely to be an issue with the firmware. As it affects all 3rd party SMS apps. Pretty sure there aren't issues on the nexus so possible not a general ics issue?
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I have the same issue but I'm also not getting contact pictures in any third party apps.. not in Go contacts, Go SMS, Handcent, Whatsapp.
Tried them all and I get nowt but the stock app gets the pictures perfectly. I've removed and re-added accounts a number of times but giving up now unless someone knows of a way around it.
Same problem
I'm also getting the same problem.
Did a full wipe before installing the ROM
Did not restore settings for go sms, but did restore my messages
I have also tried freezing messaging in titanium backup and disabling messaging in the settings. Neither seams to work.
Has anyone had any success with fixing this?
I am also facing this problem. First i thought this might be due to GO Sms . I uninstalled GO SMS and installed Handcent_SMS .. Same problem there
Sending duplicate messages (GO SMS and Handcent)
Not showing contact pictures in messages list (GO SMS and Handcent)
Anyone got the solution ???
Not sure, seems strange!
Possibly a Firmware issue, maybe a App issue
We shall see what other ssay!
same problem here
report the issue to the devs
did so for handset via email [email protected]
supply phone info
software info
and if possible logcat
Chainfire Kernel not to blame
I still have the problem after reverting to the stock kernel (3.0.15-I900XXLPQ-CL223505 [email protected] #3)
I was hoping that reverting back to stock kernel would fix it, but that is sadly not the case.
At least we know that it's not the chainfire kernel causing it
Same problem here (with Go SMS and browsertexting).
I have emailed both devs, I would suggest everyone sending emails to the app devs to hurry things along
Strikes me as something that has changed within the firmware from Samsung,
Gingerbread Roms (Official and cooked) never caused the issue for me whilst using Go SMS its like something within the ICS firmware is refusing third part apps access to the facebook contact photos.. or maybe its something within the Facebook app that's blocking third party stuff.
default sms app is giving me issues with sms ringtones not working
Hey all,
I updated to I9100XXLPQ_I9100OXALPQ_I9100XXLPQ_HOME.tar
and getting the same, default messaging app is fine, but when I have any other messaging app installed all my messages are being sent twice. I have tested this with Go SMS and Handcent, so to me sounds more like a Samsung problem.
Back to using the default app for the moment so...
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fidorulz said:
report the issue to the devs
did so for handset via email [email protected]
supply phone info
software info
and if possible logcat
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No point in doing that. As this happen with all 3rd party messaging app, it is clearly a firmware issue.
It's definitely not an ICS issue otherwise the GNexus would be affected as well.
Davith said:
No point in doing that. As this happen with all 3rd party messaging app, it is clearly a firmware issue.
It's definitely not an ICS issue otherwise the GNexus would be affected as well.
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It's definitely a firmware issue but app devs maybe able to fix or work around the issue faster then it takes Samsung to correct it. Can't hurt
Pretty big bug for Samsung to cause between previous leak and LPQ and not notice
Do we have any contacts at Samsung we can report this to? Maybe someone can contact the great CyanogenMod creator who now works at Samsung to put in a small word lol
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I have also tried freezing messaging in titanium backup and disabling messaging in the settings. Neither seams to work.
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Hi everybody!
I'm also affected by the double sms bug.
I also tried to freeze the stock messaging app with titanium, BUT, now, I can't unfreeze it... have someone the same problem? have someone a solution?
titanium tell the app have been unfreeze, but it don't. I've tried several unfreezing app, with no more success.
If there's no solution, can i flash again LPQ with Odin to resolve this mess?
Thank you!
What Rom's are we all using?
Am i right in thinking there is more than one regional variation of ICS out at the moment? Does it happen on all variations or just one?
ROM: WanamLite 9.3
Network: O2-UK
App: GOSMS

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