Is there any hope for me to transfer my MKV files from my NAS to my Gtab and just have it work? The files hare h.264 720p or 1080p.
I've read a lot and it seems like a PITA, if at all possible. I'm on a MAC, so I can't just drag and drop.
The MAC Kies software is not taking the files, either straight to the tab or to the library.
I have the wi-fi option of file transer, but at 4-5 gigs a movie that would take forever.
What about loading from the NAS to a hard drive or SD card, then loading on to the tab? Still sounds pretty time consuming, but at the same time more favorable as I can load up hard drive with several movies then transfer one or two at a time.
Will the tab, with the right movie player, play these files assuming I can get them onto the tab?
Amazing how you can read tons of threads that only lead to more confusion then all of a sudden you find the mother load of information and it all makes sense.
I'm currently transferring a 7 GB MKV movie via wi-fi using Cyberduck and file expert. About a 1/2 hour process I estimate. This might be taking a bit longer since I'm pulling the 7gb movie from my NAS, but I am connected with CAT6 at 1gb/s so who knows.
I've downloaded Diceplayer and am also going to download Vplayer and test them both with high action movies.
All my movies are MKV for my NAS and wireless streaming to my home TVs purpose. All are 4-7 GB in size.
I don't have the USB host adapter yet. You think I can use an external hard drive or SD card and play the movies directly from that source without any issue?
You'll find that stuff encoded above about 5-6Mbps (more importantly, anything that peaks around 15Mbps) will stutter on playback during the high nitrate scenes with any player. This is unfortunately a result of the Tegra chip and can't be fixed. With that said, you're also going to have trouble with anything above 720p unless it's encoded using baseline profile or with a really high quantizer.
As far as file transfers are concerned, you can use any number of wireless solutions to get the job done, but wired ones are few and far between. You can transfer using DDMS if you have the Android SDK installed, but it's not very intuitive and kind of slow. I recompiled the library that the 'Android File Transfer' uses to include support for the Galaxy Tab, but Google has obviously made some modifications because the program doesn't like my compiled version.
I'm still trying to figure out how to get the Android File Transfer app working as I think that is the best long term solution to our problem.
sassafras
Thanks for the info.
I'm not sure of the details of the movie encoding. Just know it's a .H264 in a MKV and is 7GB in size.
I used Diceplayer and watched a couple different spots in the move HEAT with no issues.
Transfer speed, when I looked, was 2.9 Mbs. A USB card reader attached to the dock port will still be much, much faster.
Let us know if you figure out the file transer app, as it would be nice to not have to transfer from NAS to SD then to Tab.
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Thanks for the info.
I'm not sure of the details of the movie encoding. Just know it's a .H264 in a MKV and is 7GB in size.
I used Diceplayer and watched a couple different spots in the move HEAT with no issues.
Transfer speed, when I looked, was 2.9 Mbs. A USB card reader attached to the dock port will still be much, much faster.
Let us know if you figure out the file transer app, as it would be nice to not have to transfer from NAS to SD then to Tab.
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Since heat is so ****ing long I'd imagine that 7GB is just about right in terms of size/quality ratio.
If your NAS is running an SMB server then you can use something like ES File Explorer on the tablet to connect directly to it and copy from there. I've found the transfer speeds to be acceptable and definitely less work than what you're putting up with right now.
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It's a WD 1 tb-- not sure if it's running an SMB server. Without too much explanation, what is an SMB server?
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It's a WD 1 tb-- not sure if it's running an SMB server. Without too much explanation, what is an SMB server?
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Windows Share.
I imagine it is, as that's probably how you access it from your Mac. Try ES File Explorer and see if that works for you.
sassafras
The NAS shows up on my MAC as a drive over the WI FI network or in my case a cat6 cable.
I'll try the ES file if it will speed up the transfers..
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Windows Share.
I imagine it is, as that's probably how you access it from your Mac. Try ES File Explorer and see if that works for you.
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So I've tried the ES File Explorer and transferred a file directly from the NAS.
A couple things I was wondering about.
Is this supposed to be faster than using FTP file explorer? I was getting 3.0 MB/second, not Mbs, MB.
I don't know what I'm getting using the ES file explorer because there is no status bar that tells me what I'm getting. I'm currently timing the 7 GB file using ES F. Explorer.
There is a little download icon in the task bar- it seems buggy to me. Have you experienced this?
Am I missing anything here?
At this point the only advantage I see using this method over FTP is I don't have to be next to my computer to get things started.
pdxrealtor said:
So I've tried the ES File Explorer and transferred a file directly from the NAS.
A couple things I was wondering about.
Is this supposed to be faster than using FTP file explorer? I was getting 3.0 MB/second, not Mbs, MB.
I don't know what I'm getting using the ES file explorer because there is no status bar that tells me what I'm getting. I'm currently timing the 7 GB file using ES F. Explorer.
There is a little download icon in the task bar- it seems buggy to me. Have you experienced this?
Am I missing anything here?
At this point the only advantage I see using this method over FTP is I don't have to be next to my computer to get things started.
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It's always worked really well on my phone, but I actually rarely use it with the tablet so I can't tell you much. I know that it's fast enough to stream movies (which it does well) but as to overall speed I can't help.
As far as progress, I've always had it show me a progress bar in the notification pane. Never had any problems with it.
If it doesn't work for you, then it's no skin off my back
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Hello,
I need help once again,
How in the world do I manage to transfer. Mkv files to my tab? I can't do it, when I try to make it, windows stops working...however when I transer a .avi file it works perfectly.
Do I really need to convert the files. Mkv to. Avi ....thats a pain.....if yes any advice on a free converter?
Thanks in advance
Hugo
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That is why Tegra 2 and tablets without sd slot - SUCKS :-(
Hi,
I can't even write any files to my Tab 10.1. Am I missing something? I thought it would just show up as a USB drive, but it shows up as some kind of camera, and I can't write any files to the folder structure...
I've only had it for a few hours, but this is a surprise. Do other tablets do that?
HcMAX, how did you USB transfers to work? I know this is a newbie question and I should just do a more indepth search, but hopefully you can just chime in for me.
FWIW, I have yet to find an mkv,player combination that will not be choppy. I've resigned myself to using mp4's. Also...keep them under 2gbs...
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FWIW, I have yet to find an mkv,player combination that will not be choppy. I've resigned myself to using mp4's. Also...keep them under 2gbs...
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If you mkv (h.264) files are high profile you will not find one :-(.
coachclass said:
Hi,
I can't even write any files to my Tab 10.1. Am I missing something? I thought it would just show up as a USB drive, but it shows up as some kind of camera, and I can't write any files to the folder structure...
I've only had it for a few hours, but this is a surprise. Do other tablets do that?
HcMAX, how did you USB transfers to work? I know this is a newbie question and I should just do a more indepth search, but hopefully you can just chime in for me.
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There are other ways to transfer ALL types of files to your Tab, like doing it over wifi. Go to the Market and grab Websharing (not free) or WifileExplorer (free) or any other you want, and follow the directions. You basically type in the I.P address of your tab into a web browser and transfer files that way.
Now as for playing said mkv files, try Moboplayer or just convert them to mp4. I assume you have Windows, look for "Handbrake", it's free and solid, or look for "Freemake" also free.
My personal anecdote, Tegra 2 has been a disappointment multimedia-wise. I took my 10.1 Tab back to Bestbuy the other day and got a Verizon Tab 7" off craigslist new-in-box for $200, couldn't pass it up. The PowerVR SGX gpu in the Tab 7" paired with "Mvideoplayer" puts video playing on the Tab 10.1 to shame.
I'm staying clear of any Tegra 2 SOC device with Nvidia gpu. The PowerVR SGX is still taking prisoners it seems.
I just would like to share that I have been able to transfer an .mkv using the normal windows Mpd or w/e transfer. as we know transfering .avi work, no problem, but trying to copy a .mkv crashes explorer for some stupid reason.
I had an mkv that i couldnt transfer and while i am sure a wifi transfer would work as suggested, it would be slower than just usb.
what i did is, through windows, take out the file extension, so my file was originally called movie.mkv, now its just called movie. I tried renaming it to movie.avi, still crashed it. now once the file no longer has a file extension, windows lets u transfer it, no questions asked. once on the device, use a file manager(stock one doesnt let you rename file extensions) to add the .mkv once its on the device. I used androzip, but i am sure others work.
Hope this helps people trying to transfer files to tab, yet windows explorer just crashes.
If any one know any other file managers that let you rename the file extension, please let me know, i am not really fond of androzips UI
thanks.
Problem with movies being to big to transfer fixed !!
If the movie is too big to transfer just split the movie in half with (HJsplit 3.0) software and transfer it over to your tablet use WIFI File explorer pro to transfer
works flawlessly with Samsung tab 10.1.
Usually, MKV does not supported by Samsung Tab since they only can support H.263, H.264, MPEG4, WMV, DivX videos. So converting MKV to mp4 is necessary. I ised Brorsoft Video Converter to deal with my videos. It works great. Download and have a try.
what is the best way for me to stream. Mp4 movie files i converted with handbrake pc version to my galaxy tab? what is everyone using? Thanks
Plex is amazing. I have it running on my WHS and stream MKV files over both Wi-Fi and 3G with no stuttering. It displays movie descriptions and episode descriptions for TV shows. It also support audio with album art. It's pretty slick and impresses everyone I show it to. Both PlayOn and Orb Live work also but they're not nearly as elegant. PlayOn and Orb Live support Hulu without stuttering if that has any value to you. BTW, none of them are free.
Excuse my ignorance. What is whs?
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Excuse my ignorance. What is whs?
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Windows Home Server, running the same setup too. Love plex, not only am i streaming to my tab, i use the plex addon for XBMC for streaming windows. I can start a video on computer and resume if needed on the tab and vice versa.
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If you already converted the movies simply use ES file explorer to access a shared folder on the PC. ES file explorer is a crude app to use and is not tablet optimized but at least you dont have to run a streaming app on your PC which take up alot power to run. No reason to re-encode the movies you already re-encoded.
5thElement said:
If you already converted the movies simply use ES file explorer to access a shared folder on the PC. ES file explorer is a crude app to use and is not tablet optimized but at least you dont have to run a streaming app on your PC which take up alot power to run. No reason to re-encode the movies you already re-encoded.
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Are you able to stream videos from outside the network using that method?
One of the other features I enjoy with Plex is able to stream from anywhere using either my tablet or my laptop. It's not just limited to android .
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Are you able to stream videos from outside the network using that method?
One of the other features I enjoy with Plex is able to stream from anywhere using either my tablet or my laptop. It's not just limited to android .
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For outside the network I guess I would use Plex. Inside, no way. Plex uses way too much CPU resources on even on high end PCs. It takes alot to re-encode movies in real-time. No reason to stress your PC when you dont have to. Besides, you can access shared folders with your laptop as well you know.
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For outside the network I guess I would use Plex. Inside, no way. Plex uses way too much CPU resources on even on high end PCs. It takes alot to re-encode movies in real-time. No reason to stress your PC when you dont have to. Besides, you can access shared folders with your laptop as well you know.
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I use to used media player 11 to stream on my laptop, but plex completely changed that. And no, it does not use that much resources to run, I have a Q9300 with 8 GB of ram, and it uses maybe... maybe 2% of my memory and nothing on the processor. I even did a stress test and had it stream to my desktop, laptop, and tablet while playing videos using XMBC on WHS with DTS @1080p... no hiccup.
So no, it does not stress my PC.
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Whenever I try to copy an MKV file to my Prime, there is a loooooooong delay where nothing happens, then finally a screen pops up that says something like "this file might not play properly, are you sure you want to copy it?". When I hit "yes", it copies just fine.
Does anyone know of a way to keep this from happening? My MKV files play just fine with MX Video player, so it's a pain to have to deal with this annoying delay every single time.
davin8r said:
Whenever I try to copy an MKV file to my Prime, there is a loooooooong delay where nothing happens, then finally a screen pops up that says something like "this file might not play properly, are you sure you want to copy it?". When I hit "yes", it copies just fine.
Does anyone know of a way to keep this from happening? My MKV files play just fine with MX Video player, so it's a pain to have to deal with this annoying delay every single time.
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Depends where that file type check is done. If it's in the USB driver, there is no way of getting rid of it other than hack the driver or use another one.
Do you use Asus software to copy the file or do you just use the prime as usb storage and copy it?
My Prime is on it's way to me, as soon as it's here I'll upgrade to ICS (rollout in Germany just began) and check on movie files.
Same on every Android device.
Got the question you get with everyone of my Android devices I have had. but I don't have that delay you mention.
Isn't even a problem, just click yes.
This message is just a heads up that it might not work properly. And how can Android or Windows know if you have installed a program that can play those files?
Think the problem is more your computer than Prime. when it comes to send files its most time the computer that is the problem.
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Problem is that the Prime connects as an MTP device. This in conjunction with the MTP/USB driver used could be the problem. Run "devmgmt.msc" from Win+R to get to the device manager and check if "Asus MTP device" is properly installed, if not, update the driver (if possible).
Question pops up instantaneously for me.
I think this is DRM related issue. It seems like the prime has no option (or purposely removed) to be mounted as Mass USB Storage. The only option available is to mount it as MTP or as a Camera.
I can copy small files in and out fine with MTP. However, I think it checks for file types and warn/deny certain ones that the prime should not be able to play, even though you have an app installed you know can play it. It's really annoying specially when copying multiple files and you come back to your computer to find out it stopped copying because of a stupid warning or question.
Whenever I copy large or small .mkv files, explorer.exe just tanks and quits. I think ICS or some DRM app is doing this on purpose for movie files. .avi files seems fine but gives a warning. But when all else fails, I can pull out the external sdcard and copy the files through a reader.
Is there a way to force it to mount as as a USB Mass Storage device like my other android device? Or was this option removed now from ICS as Google gets stricter with DRM related issues? I wonder if the Nexus can be mounted as a USB Mass Storage rather than MTP?
Any ideas guys?
PS. It's kind of silly that they brag you play HD movies and the screen can show them in HD, but you can't copy any HD formatted files either because of DRM restrictions or the sdcard format can only handle movies with 4gb or less (which is not HD quality anymore). The only thing its good for is to shoot your own HD videos with the camera and play that video in HD, which you can do with your phone better since it's smaller and easier to maneuver.
And they say the new T700 is coming out with 1080p, I say its useless unless they can mount the drives with ntfs or ext4 with faster read/write throughput to prevent lags.
I can't explain the delay before getting the prompt, but here's an explanation straight from a Google engineer for why the Prime doesn't have USB Mass Storage enabled.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/mg14z/whoa_whoa_ics_doesnt_support_usb_mass_storage/
Pfft, at least you can copy MKV files to your Prime directly . I had to transfer 13GB of files to a USB, transfer them to my netbook and then from the Netbook to my MicroSD card in an SD card adapter all because my MicroSD to USB adapter broke and I can't transfer directly to the Prime
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Pfft, at least you can copy MKV files to your Prime directly . I had to transfer 13GB of files to a USB, transfer them to my netbook and then from the Netbook to my MicroSD card in an SD card adapter all because my MicroSD to USB adapter broke and I can't transfer directly to the Prime
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Wow, I feel ya. That's a bad day indeed.
aragorn182 said:
I can't explain the delay before getting the prompt, but here's an explanation straight from a Google engineer for why the Prime doesn't have USB Mass Storage enabled.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/mg14z/whoa_whoa_ics_doesnt_support_usb_mass_storage/
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That still doesn't explain why some files would transfer fine while others do not. Have you tried transferring a .mkv file (let say 2gb) and see if it works? It crashes for me. As for other file types, I get ask stupid questions.
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That still doesn't explain why some files would transfer fine while others do not.
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It wasn't meant to explain that. It was only meant to explain why there is no USB Mass Storage.
I highly doubt it's a DRM problem because I'm able to copy .mkv files over. The only thing I have to do is confirm that I want to copy it, because it will complain that it might not be able to play that file type.
FYI
Android is smth like linux (FAT drive) you are UNALBE to TRANSFER ANY SINGLE FILE MORE THAN 2GB thru usb.
micro sd card is limit to 4 GB if i'm not wrong.
the BEST solution is network transfer with ES file explorer, itz good to invest on NAS aka network drive now, SCREW USB.
set yourself free, no more limitation and driver ****...
aragorn182,
So you can copy .mkv files fine. Hmm I guess I'll try reformatting my micro sdcard coz its acting flaky and try again. Thanks, at least I have some confirmation it works for others. Funny thing is, I can copy into it if I pull it out and put it into my card reader.
With regards to NAS. I already have NAS at home and the WD Live (3 of them) so I can watch movies in each room. Problem is, I want to watch movies on my tablet when I'm traveling long flights (starting to tire of carrying my laptop, tablet is so much lighter). At home, Its kind of useless to watch movies on my tablet when my TV is bigger and I have media players to play them. Lol, even my computer monitor is bigger
u can use network transfer to ur prime...not asking u to stream...
you wont have any problem with file size or type when using network transfer to your prime. since u have NAS make for use of it.
I've copied a few gigs of MKVs to my Prime (both internal storage and microsd) and had no problems. Windows 7 does tells me the little error message about how the thing might not play the format back properly (I wonder why that error shows up considering the Prime can at least playback H.264 with AAC audio in MKV using the native video player).
Did you disable Asys Sync on your tablet? I noticed once I disabled that, transfer speeds were a lot faster.
Ok finally worked. I reformatted the micro sdcard in FAT32 and ran read/write test on it to make sure it is not bad. Tried it again twice and it worked both times. Thanks guys. Really weird problem, something must have gotten corrupted. I have also tried wireless transfer and it work flawlessly. I think that will be my preferred method of transfer now.
Thank you everyone.
When i'm using ES file explorer and transferring files from or to my TFP i get a throughput of around 500kb ps.
This amount seems a bit low... could anyone check the transfer speed as well and report back the results?
I'm also looking for a way to stream video's. Right now i'm using ES file explorer to browse towards a external file and then play it using DICE player. (Dice player doesn't support a network selection tool, thus i got to use ES file expl).
But it seems that the transfer speed is a bit too slow for good streaming. Most movies which are about 8gb big are unplayable (Buffer isn't that fast)
Any suggestions?
If you're rooted, did you try cifs-manager (network shared partition)?
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If you're rooted, did you try cifs-manager (network shared partition)?
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Haven't rooted it yet. (retarded noob question, how safe is it to root now? haven't read the threads about it yet)
That is the normal transfer rate for streaming. It depents on the movie's bitrate.
SMB is not very fast. Set up a ftp and transfer over this protocoll. Instesd of 2 mb/s i get more than 3 mb/s. And with DicePlayer you can open a video while transfering. Its much better than srreaming over BSPlayer or a file manager.
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That is the normal transfer rate for streaming. It depents on the movie's bitrate.
SMB is not very fast. Set up a ftp and transfer over this protocoll. Instesd of 2 mb/s i get more than 3 mb/s. And with DicePlayer you can open a video while transfering. Its much better than srreaming over BSPlayer or a file manager.
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I tried the FTP suggestion and it did work, although very clumsy compared to SMB. I don't understand why the SMB protocol is that slow, it should be possible to have a transfer rate of +- 5 Megabytes right...
SexyAndIKnowIt said:
I tried the FTP suggestion and it did work, although very clumsy compared to SMB. I don't understand why the SMB protocol is that slow, it should be possible to have a transfer rate of +- 5 Megabytes right...
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Because on a Prime (or heck, any Linux device) we aren't talking real SMB. We are talking reverse engineered SMB.
That is not to say it cannot perform. I have two Linux media servers that share via SMB and each can do it fast enough for full Blu Ray ISOs.
The trick is the SMB on my server is tweaked to the moon to get those speeds- tweaks I bet Asus didn't do in the default kernel.
Once we get the bootloader unlocked then maybe the SMB support can be improved. Already it is good enough I can stream most of my 720p content.
I hope I posted this question in the right place. I have searched extensively and I could not find a specific solution.
I am wondering how you all get your HD video files to your Android device. I have a library of 720p MP4 (x264/AAC) videos on optical discs (CD/DVD). The files are 1-4GB each. I'd like to casually select a video and watch it on my Galaxy Nexus. Unfortunately, I haven't found a good way to do this. The phone is certainly capable of playing the videos smoothly and at full 720p resolution. However, it's getting the files to the device in a timely fashion that's the problem. Here's what I've tried so far:
I can load a disc into my desktop, copy the files to a local fileserver, and then transfer to my phone using SFTP or Samba/CIFS. The phone's wifi speed seems to cap out at about 1MB/sec on my 802.11n network so it would take 30 minutes to transfer one file! The phone's storage would fill up quickly too, but I could always delete old ones after I watch them. With such a slow transfer, I'd really have to plan in advance - not to mention the multiple steps to copy from disc to desktop to server to phone. I have tried several different apps and protocols. All seem to cap out at about 10Mbit/sec while a laptop gets 50-60Mbit/sec easy. My previous Android devices from different brands also had this limit so perhaps it's all that's supported by those tiny radios?
I prefer to use Linux on the desktop but there don't seem to be good solutions for MTP and PTP transfers under Linux.
I booted into a Windows machine, put a disc in the drive and attempted to copy to the device via USB 2.0. It was a bit quicker, but I was only able to get 2-4MB/sec so copying a handful of movies all at once takes over an hour - and I'm constantly interrupting my workflow rebooting into different operating systems.
I've considered getting a USB OTG cable so that I could plug an external (self-powered) DVD drive into the phone. However, I haven't found a definitive answer on whether or not generic USB DVD drives are supported via USB Host. Most seem to think they are not.
I'd remove an SD card and use a USB card reader on my desktop, but the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have one.
It would be nice to stream the movies from my network file server, but I haven't found a good solution for that either. Most of the file browsing apps that claim to support streaming actually copy files locally temporarily instead of reading them incrementally from the server. Since I run Linux, I don't have the capability of running those specialized Windows apps that simulate streaming from the desktop. I could root the phone and manually mount network drives, but the management of that doesn't seem elegant given I'm not always in range of my home network and I'd also like to take some with me on the go.
Once the movies are on the phone, they play great and I have no problems. It's just quite a challenge to get them there in a reasonable timeframe without headaches. How do those of you who watch HD movies on your phones handle this? Any suggestions? Thanks!
just google plex for linux and see if that works for you and theres an app for android as well not certain if this helps but I use plex everywhere.
I appreciate the suggestion, but I already have a fileserver set up. I don't see how plex would overcome any speed limitations, which is really the issue.
I use mediahouse upnp dlna app (free) to stream hd movies from a wirelessly connected hard drive.
You could also stream from a pc if you set the pc as a dlna server.
Also you can sometimes stream using es file explorer.
Dave
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