There are some Honeycomb ROMs for our Device, but why they all are based on HC 3.0.1? Is there any special reason for not releasing a ROM based on 3.1 or even 3.2?
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There are some Honeycomb ROMs for our Device, but why they all are based on HC 3.0.1? Is there any special reason for not releasing a ROM based on 3.1 or even 3.2?
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Because HC development for our devices was begun by the Tabletroms crew, and they began using 3.0, because it was available at the time. Remember, the HC that non-Google supported devices use can't just perform and OTA to get it updated. These roms are pretty much built from scratch. If you spent 2 months working on a Rom, then a new version comes out, are you just going to scrap everything you've already done, and start over again with the new version? Hell, we're not even supposed to have HC working on the Gtablet, are we really becoming THAT greedy that we already want updates?
By all means, go ahead and find yourself a source for 3.2, port it over to the Gtablet and run with it...When can we expect it?
"Greed is good, greed is right, greed works"
Sure it cost some efforts to make them run, but I thought if 3.0.1 is running most issues are solved and 3.1 just need some adjustments.
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"Greed is good, greed is right, greed works"
Sure it cost some efforts to make them run, but I thought if 3.0.1 is running most issues are solved and 3.1 just need some adjustments.
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if you think about it though, even with 3.1 or 3.2, we still wouldn't have a working camera, or hardware acceleration, so, it would still be broken.
We don't have camera, because the sources ours are ported from are from a device that doesn't have a camera.
While the Tansformer, Xoom, and Iconia all have Tegra 2s, they are different versions than the Vega, Gtablet, and Adam.
Yeah what a big loss, that crappy 1,3MP cam. Maybe i'll give it a try later.
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My question. At what point will I no longer be able to use the latest and greatest Android version? IE windows 7 isn't going to run on a windows 95 machine. When will my Vibrant be the windows 95 machine? From 95 to 7 might be to much a jump but you get my point.
Its already clear that this time is soon. With all this near field stuff that if I'm correct my vibrant can't do. And of course I only have one camera so all this video phone stuff isn't going to happen....
I also have read that google is going to slow down its releases. Will I be installing Android 2.5?
Just a question I dreamed up falling asleep last night, interesting to think about. I dread the day!
Thanks for all the work! Running Obsidian 4.2, I freaking love my phone. really. Its AWESOME. Came from a jailbroken, unlocked iPos 3g and omg did I hate it.
Thanks again.
Nick
Why isn't this in q&a? Anyways gingerbread requires a 1ghz processor. So you are good for that. As for further releases let me dust off my time machine. Considering the nexus s is virtually identical in specs to the vibrant aside from the ffc, I think we may be able to support past 2.3 but don't know.
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NJDubois said:
My question. At what point will I no longer be able to use the latest and greatest Android version? IE windows 7 isn't going to run on a windows 95 machine. When will my Vibrant be the windows 95 machine? From 95 to 7 might be to much a jump but you get my point.
Its already clear that this time is soon. With all this near field stuff that if I'm correct my vibrant can't do. And of course I only have one camera so all this video phone stuff isn't going to happen....
I also have read that google is going to slow down its releases. Will I be installing Android 2.5?
Just a question I dreamed up falling asleep last night, interesting to think about. I dread the day!
Thanks for all the work! Running Obsidian 4.2, I freaking love my phone. really. Its AWESOME. Came from a jailbroken, unlocked iPos 3g and omg did I hate it.
Thanks again.
Nick
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You need to do some more research to get a better idea what Nexus S is and what the NFC chip does. This topic belongs in general for starters. Realistically there is no one who is going to have an exact answer although chances of you owning a new phone by the time your Vibrant stops getting updates is pretty high.
I'm sure we'll be able to get past 2.3 there's so many nods these days, that I'm sure we will be fine.
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My doubt in particular - especially towards the NFC Chip and Gyro Sensors.
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My doubt in particular - especially towards the NFC Chip and Gyro Sensors.
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Why? These are hardware and driver related. What is the issue removing the drivers? Like the FFC mod just needed the drivers and implementation into the Rom. Or are you referring to what these do and Vibrant being outdated?
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The issue we will meet first is not whether our hardware is up to the task, but whether we have a kernel. The original Nexus One is actually slated to get Android 2.3 before the Nexus S launch date and both the Nexus phones will go well beyond Android 3.0 because there will always be kernel source code available. Contrast that with the Vibrant where we have to rely on Samsung's good will to release a kernel. We'll probably get one for 2.3 (albeit several months if not a year from now) but I would not be surprised if 3.0 is out of the question. Once Samsung stops releasing kernels, it will be entirely in the hands of developers who will be working without source code.
Have those "previously suggested but also previously confirmed to be innacurate spec requirement rumors" now NOW official? If that makes sense. .. (?)
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Why isn't this in q&a? Anyways gingerbread requires a 1ghz processor. So you are good for that. As for further releases let me dust off my time machine. Considering the nexus s is virtually identical in specs to the vibrant aside from the ffc, I think we may be able to support past 2.3 but don't know.
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Have no fear. As near as I can tell, the Nexus S is basically the same hardware as the Vibrant + FFC. Eugene tweeted that he plans to port 2.3 over to the Vibrant once the Nexus S source is released. If he can get it to work, I see no reason our vibrant's will not be able to be updated anytime the Nexus S is for the foreseeable future.
And its not necessarily Samsung that's causing the update issue. T-Mobile is pretty dang slow when it comes to releasing updates. I'm sure, if the Nexus S is supposed to be next in the line of Google dev phones, that Google has some kind of contract with Samsung about developing drivers for any new version of Android that gets released.
My G1 is running the latest and greatest.
There is NOT a minimum processor speed.
Our phones have incredible hardware.
Have no worries about the future.
Viewpad 7 Gingerbread (Vanilla AOSP)
I'm currently working on a Vanilla AOSP Gingerbread firmware for the Viewsonic Viewpad 7 (and equivalent devices), and hope to release an alpha for testing soon. The purpose is to have a slim and fast firmware as close to the AOSP code as possible.
Highlights:
- Making the maximum possible internal storage available.
- Bottom line performance enhancements.
- Multiple language support.
Notes:
- Gingerbread v 2.3.4
- Firmware should work with compatible devices such as: Cherry Mobile Superion, Commtiva Linx N700, Olivepad VT-100, Spice MI700, and Camangi FM600....but I do not have these devices, so I cannot verify. As always make a backup before installing any custom firmwares.
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Looking forward to it!
Well to be honest gingerbread runs terrible on this device at the moment, and I have several force close conditions to deal with in addition to getting all the main features working properly. I am using my original Moto Droid that I have a vanilla GB loaded on (1Ghz) as a performance comparison since the hardware is fairly close in regards to benchmarks.
I'm going to keep pushing towards a relatively stable beta release for people to test, but I think this will end up being a long term project since I only get a little time on weekends to work on it. I'm not certain whether this device will be capable of running Honeycomb in the future, so this is our best bet for now. I'm not planning on upgrading to a new tablet anytime soon, so I can assure you I want GB working as much as the next guy.
good job! ^^
can give me kernel source too?^^
hi lakehousetech, how's the progress ??
would love to hear good news and start using gingerbread.
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hi lakehousetech, how's the progress ??
would love to hear good news and start using gingerbread.
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I'm not certain whether this device will be capable of running Honeycomb in the future, so this is our best bet for now. I'm not planning on upgrading to a new tablet anytime soon, so I can assure you I want GB working as much as the next guy.
Wow, Gingerbread ROM is coming... Looking forward to it. BTW, good job getting ROMs on the device.
I am very glad that you did not quit work on porting gingerbread. Good luck. We are waiting for your beta.
Any updates yet? I'm willing to help test it, too.
Nice work man! My device is ready for testing!
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Nice work man! My device is ready for testing!
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but the ROM 2.3 not ready...
any updates?
Keen
Looking forward to it... Just subscribed to the thread so I can hear how it goes.
viewpad 7 upgrade
so...... is the new firmware coming?
just to check
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/12/viewsonic-7x-shrinks-honeycomb-to-7-inches-for-the-tiny-handed/
ViewSonic 7x shrinks Honeycomb to 7 inches for the tiny handed news UP with engadget
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Well to be honest gingerbread runs terrible on this device at the moment, and I have several force close conditions to deal with in addition to getting all the main features working properly. I am using my original Moto Droid that I have a vanilla GB loaded on (1Ghz) as a performance comparison since the hardware is fairly close in regards to benchmarks.
I'm going to keep pushing towards a relatively stable beta release for people to test, but I think this will end up being a long term project since I only get a little time on weekends to work on it. I'm not certain whether this device will be capable of running Honeycomb in the future, so this is our best bet for now. I'm not planning on upgrading to a new tablet anytime soon, so I can assure you I want GB working as much as the next guy.
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Hey lakehousetech,
Is there any things we can help in the technical side? As I'm the owner of the Viewpad7 and really wanted to eat the gingerbread with the viewpad7
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Hey lakehousetech,
Is there any things we can help in the technical side? As I'm the owner of the Viewpad7 and really wanted to eat the gingerbread with the viewpad7
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I'm hoping to release the update.zip next week (before memorial day weekend). It would be a huge help if some folks would install it temporarily and give me some feedback. Unfortunately for this release you'll most likely have to do a complete wipe before installing. I'm going to test on my Viewpad first, and will confirm before release. Thanks for being so patient.
Very willing to do any tests!
Send me the link, and I will flash away!
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I'm hoping to release the update.zip next week (before memorial day weekend). It would be a huge help if some folks would install it temporarily and give me some feedback. Unfortunately for this release you'll most likely have to do a complete wipe before installing. I'm going to test on my Viewpad first, and will confirm before release. Thanks for being so patient.
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Ready for trying it also....
So I took the plunge and bought my self a Gtab, not too keen on blowing ridiculous amounts of money on tech, so for the specs and price tag the Gtab seemed to be the best bet.
Now I am fairly comfortable flashing Roms, I just would like some input from the community.
So whats the most functional and stable rom available currently?
CM7 has always been my go to first base rom for pretty much any phone I have flashed, but I dont quite like it on my Nook Color, its fairly buggy, but I blame the nook not CM7
but Hardware Acceleration sounds nice, and I know that none of the Comb roms have it, but neither do the GB Roms either right?
Looks like Clemsyns V8 is probably the best 2.2 rom out, but how is it in terms of functionality and compatibility with newer 3d games and other applications?
any other input would be greatly appreciated, I just figured I ask before I go on a flash spree, because it usually takes me a couple weeks of flashing this and flashing that before I settle on a rom and I didnt really want to drag this out that long. I just wanna flash, and use until ICS Stable Rom is released.
FrankenTab and Beastly ROMs are FroYo based and should have hardware acceleration, camera and video support. Plus, they are actively being updated. They aren't Honeycomb, and I still prefer VeganTAB 7.1 (even without hardware acceleration), but the FroYo ROMs will pretty much have everything working until a stable ICS version hits.
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I've tried most of them at some point I guess it matters what you are willing to sacrifice. I love the look and feel of Flashback but no hardware acceleration, no camera, more ram used by the system ... (all Honeycomb roms are like that).
CM7 works great and I keep one gtab on it. MX Player has Tegra 2 software acceleration for video and most games and apps work. Has been very stable for 4 months, not buggy at all and looks great.
My other gtablet has landed on Beasty-Clemsyn. It is a Froyo rom, very stable and very fast with full hardware acceleration. I ended up here because everything just works like it is supposed to. Installed the new market, flashplayer, new version of VTL launcher and I really like it. It will hold me over till an ICS rom comes out.
FrankenTab and Beastly
I've been switching between FrankenTab and Beastly myself.
I think FrankenTab looks nicer overall but I've run across less issues with the Beastly rom and so I've settled with that until ICS is released for our G Tab.
Let us know which roms you try and your experience with them.
I am pleased that my FrankenTAB ROM has found its way over to XDA.
I would love to hear any issues users are having since we are actively developing this ROM (currently working on v1.0.2), but I cant help over here yet with an official support thread. If anyone needs help, you can PM me here, or google FrankenTAB and look for the original and most active thread for it on the site that starts with an "S".
Franken Tab is a great rom, I also went through allot of flashing trying different roms, soon the ICS ROM will be around and I am using the pre-alpha so what ever you decide set up for 1.2Bl and the latest CWM touch version. its coming n its cool.
Yup FrankenTab is the first rom I have flashed on this thing, and I am liking it so far.
-great wifi integrity
-fast as hell
-and the included VTL launcher is nice too.
plus having the ability speak with the Dev directly about suggestions and bugs is very nice as well.
If you want Flash to work well are you limited to 2.2 ROMs?
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If you want Flash to work well are you limited to 2.2 ROMs?
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Flash works fine in 2.2 and 2.3 based ROMs. I have it working just fine in VeganTab GE 7.1.
From what I understand, it works (with caveats and quirks) in Honeycomb, and only with certain versions of Flash.
Sadly after messing with Franken and Beastly, I found my self at CM7s door.
Franken had me really really excited at first, it was fast, it was responsive, I only had it set at 1.33ghz, but there were a few issues with both that I found a bit to unstable for my taste.
Will see how CM7 holds me over.
I love 1.09 frankentab. It performs better then anything I have tried but is way behind brilliant corners in bench mark tests. I can't figure that out because it's seems 5 times faster in real life.
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Hello,
I have had my Gtablet for about a year, and I have tried many roms.
FY,GB,HC,ICS,etc. Various incarnations. (Well, only 1 ICS)
From my understanding, Viewsonic, like many companies,
uses various suppliers for components, so the individual results with roms will vary.
And the physical build may vary. eg/ Volume (+) is actually (-)
(this is a reported build difference that my tablet has)
I seem to come back to Froyo roms for many reasons. Base platform OS.
Hardware acceleration. Stability. Etc.
Personally, I haven't found a newer gen rom that works as well as Froyo.
As stated on this and other sites, Be sure you follow the recomended
procedures for pre and post install. usually posted in the OP.
Really get to know and understand NVflash.
I always come back to the C+C rom final version. Beasty, although nice,
wouldn't do what C+C does for me.
I use my tablet as much, if not more than I use my PC, and I can run Splashtop
to access my pc, which is cool.
I do find certain games or apps that wont work, but, I am patient.
No problems with google apps.
It really comes down to researching, and testing, and finding out
the best rom for you and your tablet.
After all, this support, is almost free. Kudos to the devs.
J.
sorry. this is on another post. hope that is ok.
I've been on FrankenTAB 1.0.9 for two weeks or so and so far one of the best Froyo ROM's I've tried. I flashed quite a few ROM's for the 1.2BL but this one seems to work the best for me at the moment.
I just put the ICS rom on my gtab, and it looks great. Installing it wasn't that hard, I did have to switch bootloaders to 1.2. The only issue is I can't get my external SD card to work. I love using chrome.
In ICS, the external sd card is not named the way it is in other ICS distributions...look for /microsd folder instead of /emmc or /sdcard/external_sd like you may be used to.
If anyone is already on BL 1.2, ICS is definitely worth installing. The only two things that I've found that do not work are the camera and microphone but for me both are non-issues.
Hello ive been using my gtab with tnt rom and it runs really good
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With the new ICS roms/kernels appearing and the huge enthusiasm for them, I'm actually left wondering why?
Given what we know from SE posting on the topic in their dev blog, surely ICS will never run as fast or as effectively as GB on our small phones?
So specifically, what does ICS bring to the table for our phone which GB does not?
Sure, it gets a new styles GUI but that's about it. The under-the-hood fundamental differences surely decrease it's suitability to our hardware.
Now I am not knocking anyone making roms/kernels here and I'm all for doing stuff just for fun, or to see if I can. However I can't help think that a bug free GB will always be superior for our phones than ICS?
Not necessarily, the aokp and miui beta 3 roms by stelios97, which are based on ics, but run on the nAa-11 kernel show a fair amount of promise in speed and stability. I'm very much looking forward to improvements in the miui-rom especially.
As far as the ICS kernel and MiniCM9 by nAa are concerned, they're still very early works with lots of bugs to be ironed out. I am sure in future iterations you will see lots of improvement in the overall user experience.
All that said though, my phone worked perfectly fine on eclair too, so i guess it's all about what you want from your phone, nothing is perfect, and different people have different needs or expectations.
I just love to see that our little devices are capable of so much more than people think or expect, so for what it's worth... there will come a time when it will be impossible for us to run the latest android, but i don't think that time is here yet.
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With the new ICS roms/kernels appearing and the huge enthusiasm for them, I'm actually left wondering why?
Given what we know from SE posting on the topic in their dev blog, surely ICS will never run as fast or as effectively as GB on our small phones?
So specifically, what does ICS bring to the table for our phone which GB does not?
Sure, it gets a new styles GUI but that's about it. The under-the-hood fundamental differences surely decrease it's suitability to our hardware.
Now I am not knocking anyone making roms/kernels here and I'm all for doing stuff just for fun, or to see if I can. However I can't help think that a bug free GB will always be superior for our phones than ICS?
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I remember the firsts steps in development of froyo and after Ginger, the first versions were very buggy but now you can see smooth roms of those versions, the same is going to happen to ICS.
We all know that our devices are not supposed to run ics... But as we all have seen all those months of x10 mini development, all versions start all buggy and in the end, are fully optimized for our devices....
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I cant wait for jellybeans!
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I cant wait for jellybeans!
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jellybean was announced to be running on really High-end tablet and PC's.... I imagine it sth like honeycomb. No idea if this is true though
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jellybean was announced to be running on really High-end tablet and PC's.... I imagine it sth like honeycomb. No idea if this is true though
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Gingerbread was the last phone-only android, Honeycomb was meant to be a tablet-optimized operating system, and with ICS google wanted to combine the two, that's why they never released the source for honeycomb, they didn't want it to run on phones. From ICS on, Google thinks they've solved the problem of different resolutions and use-cases...
So from now on, every android-release is meant to run on tablets as well as phones.. you can't blame them for aiming at increasing hardware capabilities, after all, you wouldn't expect to run Windows 7 on hardware that ran just fine on windows98.
Eventually, our little devices just don't have enough power to run the latest and grreatest operating systems... deal with it...
I remember when I installed the GB for the first time, e the bugs and speed in this was worse then in ICS (CM9) that I flash last week...
I'll report all bugs I see in ICS and wait to be fix.
I liked much more this ICS then the last GB released.
(Sorry my bad english)
I'm using CM9 right now and liked more than CM7, I have better performance and battery life than before, with few bugs of course, but I can live with that. The guys are really doing a great job with ICS! The GUI is amazing!
Don't forget what anancr said "I remember the firsts steps in development of froyo and after Ginger, the first versions were very buggy but now you can see smooth roms of those versions, the same is going to happen to ICS"
Well,
i tried to see if the jellybean could somehow run, and currently it seems to run just as the ICS port that chaos did.
im still struggling with the bluetooth on it, but basically it seems to work, i still am not sure its h/w/egl accelerated.
but it runs, but looks pretty much like our ICS build with pretty much the same flaws and problems, except it using framework from 4.1.1.
im testing gps and other part the next days and might upload but cannot promise continued work on it, since our kernel is still the primary reason for missing camera and proper app switching and performance tweaks of kernel 3.x.
btw, it was based based on desireHD+tf201 builds. libs of DHD and framework from tf201 (got AdvancedPowerMenu builtin)
got problems with 160 as density, then its still with mobile view, 120 works, but very small.
Hi any news on development with port on one v ?
Is that his would be more functional to have a port with the htc ville C2? with HTC Sense
Thx for trying Dexter. How r the odds to improve the port? Same as XXL port?
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Thx for trying Dexter. How r the odds to improve the port? Same as XXL port?
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well,
it goes forward. wifi,gps,compass,sound,vibrator,accelerometer,light sensor ..works..
camera,bluetooth and a fuzzy touch display when scrolling(as seen in other ics port)
I think the mobile view your seeing is the new 7 inch tablet mode. Basically the ui and launcher all look like a phone, while all the apps run in tablet view. I'm mixed on it myself, would be ok with it if the launcher worked in tablet mode. Good job nonetheless and good luck!
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For me scrolling issue is the most annoying. It doesn't let us feel the fluidity of ICS and JB. And, fluidity is the USP of these higher versions. Though I use camera often also, but fluid scrolling is must for me. And, this is our main reason why we want ics on our device.
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For me scrolling issue is the most annoying. It doesn't let us feel the fluidity of ICS and JB. And, fluidity is the USP of these higher versions. Though I use camera often also, but fluid scrolling is must for me. And, this is our main reason why we want ics on our device.
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agree, and that is part of the onexxl rom, but sorry, i do not see it here and display drivers are not compatible.
but important is also that drivers are not native for this device, i might be in better luck porting a OneV rom, when its official.
i tried parts of the nexus one where possible, and still not much improved here.
camera i live without, i got a mobile + real camera beside this one.
So I guess Drew will not release his "build" because you have one now?
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So I guess Drew will not release his "build" because you have one now?
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Lol
I think we harassed him enough on the sgs 3 forum that he is done lying about the flyer
Flyer
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So I guess Drew will not release his "build" because you have one now?
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well, i am trying to port kernel changes to this rom, since chaos kernel compile, disables touch display for me, so im trying to see if i can get better performance on it with chaos work here, but unlike others, i cannot promise it works out. i am just trying for the fun.
i move from the tf201/dhd release to the official ota from nexus , so its odex'd for now, but does boot faster
okay,
i spend quite some time on it, and still no real progress.
media player is not using hardware decoding. and seems unstable when playing games.
i thought i had netflix working, but only upto playing a movie, and it went playing without picture
so for now, i am gonna rest on this work. it looked ok, but i do not accept all the bad flaws of it.
ill post an update, if i continue to look at it. for now i'm back at OneXXL
i decided to upload my work, with the recent changes done. you will find it online soon through this thread here