Wierd I haven't seen this question asked.....so um where is it lol. I see most roms are improving on space, but no one near four gigs ..
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Wierd I haven't seen this question asked.....so um where is it lol. I see most roms are improving on space, but no one near four gigs ..
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They never will get to 4gb of storage, sense uses a lot, plus apps too, even the nexus s 4G had a lot memory taken by android, my thunderbolt had 8GB internal when in reality was more like 2 and half
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
I dont think that is the case. I made a sensless rom and it still only had 1 gig of storage.
below, you can see how the 4GB of storage is devided...
C:\Users\cgoodman\Desktop\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools>adb shell
# df
df
/dev: 411200K total, 64K used, 411136K available (block size 4096)
/system: 806312K total, 710532K used, 95780K available (block size 4096)
/data: 1204200K total, 111456K used, 1092744K available (block size 4096)
/cache: 111612K total, 4244K used, 107368K available (block size 4096)
/devlog: 20144K total, 6716K used, 13428K available (block size 4096)
/vendor/firmware/misc: 204580K total, 17292K used, 187288K available (block size
4096)
/mnt/asec: 411200K total, 0K used, 411200K available (block size 4096)
/mnt/obb: 411200K total, 0K used, 411200K available (block size 4096)
/app-cache: 8192K total, 0K used, 8192K available (block size 4096)
/data/DxDrm/fuse: Permission denied
/mnt/sdcard: 7753728K total, 2016736K used, 5736992K available (block size 32768
)
/mnt/secure/asec: 7753728K total, 2016736K used, 5736992K available (block size
32768)
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scrosler said:
I dont think that is the case. I made a sensless rom and it still only had 1 gig of storage.
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Factor in the tweaks and mods, as well as the fact that yours isn't completely senseless (although damn close).
My senseless ROM I'm running right now is at 1.11GB free for internal, and I have it completely barebone with no apps installed.
4GB will never be possible, when CM7 comes out we'll see just how good it gets.
I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but last I checked HTC's website now shows "Internal Storage: 1 GB".
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I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but last I checked HTC's website now shows "Internal Storage: 1 GB".
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I just looked and it's showing 4 gigs...
No it clearly says 1 GB internal storage. But it doesn't look like our phone. It also has a release date of October 2011.http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-evo-3d/#specs
Edit- I meant the color of the back housing, ring around the camera. Could be the GSM, and could also be the fact that they don't want to lie lol
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No it clearly says 1 GB internal storage. But it doesn't look like our phone. It also has a release date of October 2011.http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-evo-3d/#specs
Edit- I meant the color of the back housing, ring around the camera. Could be the GSM, and could also be the fact that they don't want to lie lol
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That's the gsm version. Look at where it says Internet and edge should give it away.
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That's the gsm version. Look at where it says Internet and edge should give it away.
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You r right my friend.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3223
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Hi
I bought a 128mb Secure Digital Card from Expansys but when I put it
into my device the Memory on Storage Card says 118.75mb so
where's 9.25mb gone!!!!!
TIA
Charles
The file allocation table (FAT) eats up the rest.
John
And something about..
Secure Digital - This requires space for the "secureness"
So a Multimedia Card may have given you a few megs back..
Its the old saying.
You just don't get what you pay for anymore!
MmF
Missing 10mb
Thanks for the responses.
9.25mb for the FAT, Jeeeez!
Why don't they build them 138mb, and give me what I've paid for!
Rgds
Charles
Actually the FAT does not eat up that much space, not even close. Here's the other part of the reason: A megabyte and a million bytes are NOT equal!
A kilobyte is 1024 bytes. A megabyte is 1000 of those.
The card and hard drive makers say that THEY measure a megabyte as being 1 million characters even. So your 256MB card can hold 256 million characters or bytes.
The computer and PPC however, measures in real megabytes and take that number, dividing it by 1024, to come up with its reported size. Therefore, your card has 256 million bytes, but not 256 megabytes.
They've redefined the word.
Ahh I see now. Thanks Carlos
Rgds
Charles
I have a 16gb card with a 1gb partition and my phone is telling me I have 13.77 available. If 1gb is 1024 MB then where is the rest of my storage at?
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The manufacturer uses a conversion factor of 1 mb = 1000 kb (and same for GBs) while manufacturing the card and the computer/phone uses the factor 1024 to calculate the size. Thus it seems that you lose storage. This happens in all storage devices.
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The manufacturer uses a conversion factor of 1 mb = 1000 kb (and same for GBs) while manufacturing the card and the computer/phone uses the factor 1024 to calculate the size. Thus it seems that you lose storage. This happens in all storage devices.
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OK, Thanks. I did the math using 1024MB=1GB / 16GB=15.62GB and I'm still coming up almost 500MB short but, I guess that's used for formatting or something.
Historically all 1GB android devices show 750mb total RAM, the explanation being that the missing 250mb is for video RAM. I'm curious what the Prime shows as total RAM, since the TF300 actually shows 1GB of total RAM.
I'm wondering if the TF300 actually has more RAM, like 1.2GB, or if it has dedicated video RAM. Also wondering if this is a part of Tegra3 which is why I am asking here.
Thanks.
My TFP201 currently shows...
... 515 MB used, 468 MB free in Settings, a total of 1,013 MB. Not sure I trust that.
The free command run at the same time reports Mem: 1006832 total, 839744 used, 167088 free
jus got my sd card 64 gig scandisk.im a little confused tho it shows only having 59 gigs but i have not even used it were did those 4 gigs or so go?
l-go said:
jus got my sd card 64 gig scandisk.im a little confused tho it shows only having 59 gigs but i have not even used it were did those 4 gigs or so go?
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Decimal vs. Binary:
For simplicity and consistency, hard drive manufacturers define a megabyte as 1,000,000 bytes and a gigabyte as 1,000,000,000 bytes. This is a decimal (base 10) measurement and is the industry standard. However, certain system BIOSs, FDISK and Windows define a megabyte as 1,048,576 bytes and a gigabyte as 1,073,741,824 bytes. Mac systems also use these values. These are binary (base 2) measurements.
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My question is about the user available internal storage. According ot GSMArena the device has 4GB of internal storage, but I see only 1.78GB available. Why is this so? I'm new to the whole smartphone/android thing and I don't know if the other ~2.2GB are some system reserve or something like that.
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My question is about the user available internal storage. According ot GSMArena the device has 4GB of internal storage, but I see only 1.78GB available. Why is this so? I'm new to the whole smartphone/android thing and I don't know if the other ~2.2GB are some system reserve or something like that.
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Most of the internal storage is occupied by the ROM itself and by the then by installed applications. Now LG, being a company that develops the stock ROMs for its devices on top of Android, sadly produces ROMs that are pretty bloated in terms of unnecessary services and applications, something that has a huge effect of on the consumed space of internal storage. If you buy your device from a cellular operator, you will often get some additional bloatware from your operator as well. Only solution is to use a custom ROM like CM 10.2, which consumes much less resources comparing to the stock one. However, as it's still Android, it will consume considerable internal storage space.
I think you didn't fully understand my question.
Internal 4 GB, 768 MB RAM
This is from gsmarena. Now, how exactly is it that we only have 1.7 GB of internal storage and 588MB of RAM available to us?
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I think you didn't fully understand my question.
Internal 4 GB, 768 MB RAM
This is from gsmarena. Now, how exactly is it that we only have 1.7 GB of internal storage and 588MB of RAM available to us?
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its what digdis said.2 of 4 gb are occupied by the system partition.and when every manufacturer says 4 gb,its never exactly 4gb.its about 3.6.just like the pc hard disk.if you have for example 320gb hard disk,the actual size is about 298gb.
the same for the ram.if you have a 2gb ram phone,it actually has about 1.7gb.
our phone with stock rom has 619 mb ram.cm 10.2 has 588.i dont know why exactly(neutrondev knows),but i think it has to do with allocation.
manosper said:
just like the pc hard disk.if you have for example 320gb hard disk,the actual size is about 298gb.
the same for the ram.if you have a 2gb ram phone,it actually has about 1.7gb.
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I disagree on the hard disk statement. Hard disk driver are simply made with a rounded capacity. 320 gigabytes of hard disk space is 320 000 000 000 bytes, which is normally incorrect since 320 gigabytes = 343597383680 bytes.
343 597 383 680 bytes / 1024 = 335 544 320 kilobytes
335 544 320 kilobytes / 1024 = 327 680 megabytes
327 680 megabytes / 1024 = 320 gigabytes
Manufacturers make hard disks by the following formula:
320 000 000 000 bytes / 1024 = 312 500 000 kilobytes
312 500 000 kilobytes / 1024 = 305 175,78125 megabytes
305 175,78125 megabytes / 1024 = 298,0232238769531 gigabytes
There is no locked/hidden space on hard disks, because there's nothing to lock/hide(if you apply the actual correct calculations). The only exception to this are hidden partitions on the hard drive used for recovery, but people who actually understand computers never use hidden partitions on the hard drive for recovering data, but rather use software to make an image of the system and store it on external storage(external HDDs, flash drives, cloud, etc).
The case with P710(and a number of other devices), I think, is much different, since I don't actually see these "hidden" or "missing" ~2.2 GB anywhere(or if we apply the correct calculations - ~2GB).
RAM memory is always manufactured with the correct calculations. 512MB is real 512MB. 1GB is real 1024MB. With that said, out of 768MB of ram on our device we only see 588MB. So my questions are:
"Where are the other roughly 2GB of storage? Are they used for pure system purposes and are made unaccessable by manufacturers or Android developers?" and "Where are the other roughly 180MB of RAM? Are they also used for addressing hardware or system purposes and are made unaccessable by manufacturers or Android developers?"
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I found the answers I was looking for. The "invisible" space from storage is taken up by the OS.
This can be locked.