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Hi
I've had my Hero for aboutttt 7 weeks now and i've been tinkering mainly with 1.5 ROMs.
I've settled with MoDaCo 3.2 which is blazingly fast and has some decent features.
Recently i've tried some 2.1 roms, Villain 5.4, BeHero+ and some others. I tried Villain 5.5 yesterday and kept it until today.
I really liked it, the stock look, the incredible amount of features and general improvements to the interface from 1.5.
Now. Every 2.1 ROM i've used has had something in common. They're all incredibly slow. I mean, once the app is running it's generally ok but switching between apps can be incredibly slow.
Closing an app and sliding between the home screens is extremely sluggish and opening messages can take up to 10 secs.
Keyboard input is about as flat as the expression on my face. And once the keys are recognised the phone vibrates as much as a sex toy...
Don't get me wrong, Villain5.5 is probably the best 2.1 ROM out there, it just doesn't seem to perform well.
So what makes 2.1 so slow?
Is it because it's a stock kernel? I see MoDaCo has "Teknologist"?
Is the Hero just too lame?
This has probably been answered more times than you're willing to count. I'm just frustrated to the point at which i stuck my phone in my mouth and proceeded to nibble on the corner.
Try SenseHero 2.2 - it's fast. Really fast, I think even faster than MoDaCo 3.2.
2.1 isn't any slower than 1.5!
btdag said:
2.1 isn't any slower than 1.5!
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I really, really disagree there
When we are talking about responsiveness anyway.
Responsiveness of any 2.1 ROMs are far beyond what I would like, VillainRom is the fastest I've used but still not what I'd like for my main phone. Esp vs ROMs like the Kimera 1.8... which is the fastest 1.5 ROM I've ever used (and now sticking to)
TBH I'm not surprised, with no official GSM Hero release, there's no fine-tuned drivers for it etc. Ports can get it running on a GSM Hero but in no way are those builds really built to be used on the phone, they're just modified by XDA Devs. I think thats what makes the wait for the 2.1 from HTC even greater because that should hopefully be the 2.1 we could all finally move to.
(...once XDA roots and tweaks it of course )
to check how fast it is, linpack is better or the benchmark - softweg one?
Running SenseHero2.2 now and have done for a couple days.
Feels very responsive and works very well
SlideVillain 1.1.0 is actually really pretty fast, and I currently use that as my everyday ROM. I used to be a devout taskiller user, but I have now uninstalled Taskiller as you just don't need one on SlideVillain.
Also, the new SuperHero ROM from Villain is unbelievably fast. It is a semi-vanilla ROM, although only available to donators for the moment in a closed Beta (there are still little bugs needing ironed out).
Not all 2.1 ROMs are slow though. The SuperHero ROM is actually as fast as the Desire in use. See http://www.villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=507 for some info about it.
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Hi to all XDA members,
Got an X10a with Global 2.0.2.A.0.24 rooted with Dual Touch....
i want to change my ROM to a custom ROM.....
I went to XPERIA X10 Android Development sub-forum and found lots and lots of customed ROM.......
so i want to know and have suggestions which is the best custom (2.1)ROM for X10a which has least bug(rather say no bug) and can work blazing fast......
Also Is it possible that Flash (adobe flash) can be pushed in to 2.1 ???...... can it be done ?
" I m really sorry if this is re-post since i tried to find it on X10 Q&A sub forum didnt got any such details "
i'm Using Eminence and installed Eternity 2 in my friends X10 and i vote for Eternity 2 . it's more faster and easier and jit included.
pick one you like.
I recommend eminence v1.2
I'm obviously biased, but check out kX10: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913610
Why bother with a 2.1 rom when free10x has a working camera and is a million times better than any 2.1 rom? Get with the times
If you want something stable, use the modded SE roms like Eternity or X10iUser's rom. ( Basically Sony's normal 2.1, with some theming and tweaking; no Flash on these ones )
If you want to experiment with the newer Android versions, I'd suggest using Z's FreeX10 2.2 b2. However, this rom is still under beta stage, most of the functions work, but there will definitely be some glitches here and there. ( FreeX10 2.2 is capable of Flash 10.1 )
PS: do everyone a favour and make sure you READ all the info of that rom before posting in the dev section.
Best of luck.
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Why bother with a 2.1 rom when free10x has a working camera and is a million times better than any 2.1 rom? Get with the times
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True, the >2.1 ROMs are nice, but I completely rely on my phone. There's still too many bugs, and they aren't 100% stable. Plus I see no benefit other than Flash, which is not a benefit to me.
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True, the >2.1 ROMs are nice, but I completely rely on my phone. There's still too many bugs, and they aren't 100% stable. Plus I see no benefit other than Flash, which is not a benefit to me.
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I have not had a single reboot or issue whatsoever.. I have found it to be 100% stable..
Well if you consider having your quadrant score nearly double (mine is 1500+ now, was like 800 before), not to mention the far superior memory management of froyo, I think you'll see there are far more benefits than just flash. Do some research on it..
Well i use Eternity, and I love it, and its blazing fast with no problems
I would highly recommend that if you go for 2.1,
I can't say anything about the 2.2, because i'm holding back until the video capture works correctly (i think that the only problem now, right? or was that fixed?)
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Well i use Eternity, and I love it, and its blazing fast with no problems
I would highly recommend that if you go for 2.1,
I can't say anything about the 2.2, because i'm holding back until the video capture works correctly (i think that the only problem now, right? or was that fixed?)
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higher battery consuming (around 20 hours) - Many Apps FC Specially Task Managers - other small bugs . Z Did a Great Job in his FW but still not completely stable .....as a smartphones user who likes to show his X10 to his friends you don't want to see your x10 reboots more than 1 time per a day. It's annoying . Once the camcorder is implemented and these bugs are fixed i will directly install the 2.2 fw on my smartphone . I'm Really Excited .
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higher battery consuming (around 20 hours) - Many Apps FC Specially Task Managers - other small bugs . Z Did a Great Job in his FW but still not completely stable .....as a smartphones user who likes to show his X10 to his friends you don't want to see your x10 reboots more than 1 time per a day. It's annoying . Once the camcorder is implemented and these bugs are fixed i will directly install the 2.2 fw on my smartphone . I'm Really Excited .
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You don't need task managers or killers with froyo, they have issues even on official froyo. Read up in it.
I have not have even one reboot.. also the battery consumption is actually better than 2.1 due to the better memory management.
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I have not had a single reboot or issue whatsoever.. I have found it to be 100% stable..
Well if you consider having your quadrant score nearly double (mine is 1500+ now, was like 800 before), not to mention the far superior memory management of froyo, I think you'll see there are far more benefits than just flash. Do some research on it..
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I didn't mean to offend you. I have read up on it, and while the higher Quadrant scores are nice, I didn't see any real-life performance improvements over a tweaked 2.1. Maybe others do, I don't know. I'm just saying that for me, I would rather have a rock solid ROM than a few bells and whistles.
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higher battery consuming (around 20 hours) - Many Apps FC Specially Task Managers - other small bugs . Z Did a Great Job in his FW but still not completely stable .....as a smartphones user who likes to show his X10 to his friends you don't want to see your x10 reboots more than 1 time per a day. It's annoying . Once the camcorder is implemented and these bugs are fixed i will directly install the 2.2 fw on my smartphone . I'm Really Excited .
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That's exactly why I can't use 2.2 as a daily ROM. If they ever get 2.2 or 2.3 out of beta, I will definitely use that instead of 2.1.
fiscidtox said:
You don't need task managers or killers with froyo, they have issues even on official froyo. Read up in it.
I have not have even one reboot.. also the battery consumption is actually better than 2.1 due to the better memory management.
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Everyone's experiences will vary.
I currently have FroydVillain 1.7.2 rom on my phone.
I want to try something else because I had some problems with it.
Sometimes the phone is laggy, the messages load time is really slow, sometimes I don't get call and can't make them( ex: someone call me and it does the same thing as if my phone was closed), youtube problems and many other things.
Still there is some things I like about it, the quality of the camera(not really the interface), the easy user interface ( don't really like that half circle in other version), and other things.
So for a guy like me, who dosen't use his phone to play with it or you know, mess with the cpu (and other things like that) what other rom would you advise me.
(I would still like to have something with Android version 2.2.1 or newer, don't know the difference between each but I don't want to have less options or I don't know what)
Thanks.
+ The battery die fast.
In my opinion floyo 1.2 is the best 2.2 rom. no matter what i flash i always end up coming back to it.
I'm using Elelinux's latest Hero ROM, which is very smooth and stable so far. Also, since it's based on CM7 (Android 2.3), you can theme the hell out of it if you like.
Compared to the FroydVillains I've used in the past it maybe isn't quite as fast, but the difference is minimal. Although if you really need some speed, this 2.2-based rom is probably the way to go.
Try some of the latest Gingerbread ROMs. Very smooth and good battery life. If you absolutely must have Froyo, you're not going to find much that improves on what you've already got.
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Cronos is another good Gingerbread ROM as well.
my choice:
2.1 : Sense rom for sure, elelinux's repack is good
2.2 : floyo 1.2, really great!
2.3 : elelinux's one, but with andriod 2.3.2 or before
going to try out the new android 2.3 with sense! hope i will stick on it after
you could try out the wildfire port of gingerbread with sense 2.1. its really cool and quite smooth!
Nothing better than nightly CyanogenMod 7.1! No more invisible menus and it is fast loading ^^
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Back on March 2nd, I took the plunge and flashed CM7 on my rooted NT. Barring a few bugs that I could live with, everything works great!
Since then, Alpha Final came out, and I've been curious as to the difference people noticed between the two. I've read how the battery life is a little unstable (haven't really noticed that with alpha 12), and a few other things.
So, pardon me if this topic has been done already, but what are the benefits of upgrading from a version that already works for me? Does the wifi work better? Is the battery life---though unstable---still better under Final than it is under 12?
Thanks in advance, and kudos to the devs for an excellent ROM
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Newer versions of alphas are usually going to be better...
With that being said Alpha final is much better. No more having to restart tablet because wifi won't connect and most importantly hardware video decoding. Cm 7.2 based.
Its overall better in ever single way however battery life is the same for me as it was on alpha 12
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Back on March 2nd, I took the plunge and flashed CM7 on my rooted NT. Barring a few bugs that I could live with, everything works great!
Since then, Alpha Final came out, and I've been curious as to the difference people noticed between the two. I've read how the battery life is a little unstable (haven't really noticed that with alpha 12), and a few other things.
So, pardon me if this topic has been done already, but what are the benefits of upgrading from a version that already works for me? Does the wifi work better? Is the battery life---though unstable---still better under Final than it is under 12?
Thanks in advance, and kudos to the devs for an excellent ROM
Sent from my CM7 Nook Tablet using Tapatalk 8)
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There's three main differences:
1. Hardware Video Acceleration - This is a HUGE one. In Alpha 12, HD videos wouldn't necessarily decode properly or quickly - they'd play jittery and pixel-y because of a lack of H/W Video decoding. The newest version fixes this for a lot of video formats. In my experience, it's been amazing, but as always, your mileage may vary.
2. Wi-Fi has actually been tweaked and improved, so it's a bit more stable.
3. Alpha Final is built from latest CM7 Sources - This is a big deal because it means that in theory it should be more stable and have a slightly more robust feature set. Most people won't notice a difference, but it still stands that the Final is using code that is far more up to date.
Battery life in my experience has been about the same, but I haven't had much time to test extensively since I'm busy with University coursework.
I highly recommend upgrading to the latest version though; without H/W video acceleration you'll notice a lot of annoyances and performance issues when playing videos.
Excellent! This is EXACTLY the info I was looking for. Thanks, guys
Greetings my dear friends.
I'm here to give my verdict on the upgrade to ICS after 2 months using the ICS Stock ROM I could finish something. Read and understand.
I have an XPERIA U ST25a retail brazilian.
Sure, the stock ICS ROM is very attractive, all good new stuff found in Android 4.0 are very good, like the new UI or settings menu, the toggles easily accessible are very useful, but the apparent instability and slowness (in moments) make me think why I bought this phone, and also think about going back to the old but great stock GB ROM.
And yes, i use ICS ROM, I made my own modifications and tweaks to the all-bloated ICS Stock ROM get the maximum performance.
But the bugs are really ridiculous.
The battery only charges sometimes if the phone is restarted, otherwise the indicator will be locked at 39%, for example.
The camera seems to be slow compared to the old Stock GingerBread ROM.
The open / close applications is not slow, but sometimes the application takes to respond as if something sucking the system performance.
All these bugs may (or may not) be Sony's problem, but since the era of my old devices I have these SAME problems in some ICS ROMs (I've also tested the FXP CM9 rom, and believe me, if you fill up with apps, will be slow too).
It seems that Android 4.0 ICS is always buggy and slow, and then Eclair 2.1 (horrible) then followed by the 2.2 Froyo (good).
My conclusion: Don't upgrade if you hate a phone will be a little bit slower.
I just do not go back to stock GB ROM why I still enjoy a good user interface instead of performance.
But if you do not like one bit of minimal slowdowns or some bugs, DO NOT bother upgrading to ICS. Just a beautiful day, we have the long awaited Jelly Bean. Even if it is a CM10, the "Butter Project" realizes disappear with lags. And all these little problems may be fixed.
I just let my experience here on this upgrade does not seem that there be a good idea.
Thank you very much
What ics firmware build number are you talking about?
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About any ICS firmware. I've tested B.1.10, B.1.54 and C.1.10 and of these three have similar and different problems. Its a problem about android 4.0 that have been build focused on research data...
Ics is a very ram hungry ...if u have a device which has ram 512 or below that, them trust me it's best to stay at GB.. In my Xperia P ICS eats up 500MB of my ram.i am just left with 430 MB of usable memory...
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Ics is a very ram hungry ...if u have a device which has ram 512 or below that, them trust me it's best to stay at GB.. In my Xperia P ICS eats up 500MB of my ram.i am just left with 430 MB of usable memory...
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But in android free ram doesn't mean more performance, lag will only appear when RAM reaches the "lag level" (30~25 free ram)
Here on my XPU i have 120~140MB free and i don't have any lag. BTW if you install a bunch of crappy apps and let the bloatware of Sony installed you will certainly will get some lag. Even on a XPP with 1GB of RAM you can feel some lags, i've already tested yet!
Yes if you say it like that.. Then yes under a microscope ICS does lag a bit.it's inevitable even the quad cores lag in ics from time to time.. But hey that's why there is JB for the rescue...
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Greetings my dear friends.
I'm here to give my verdict on the upgrade to ICS after 2 months using the ICS Stock ROM I could finish something. Read and understand.
I have an XPERIA U ST25a retail brazilian.
Sure, the stock ICS ROM is very attractive, all good new stuff found in Android 4.0 are very good, like the new UI or settings menu, the toggles easily accessible are very useful, but the apparent instability and slowness (in moments) make me think why I bought this phone, and also think about going back to the old but great stock GB ROM.
And yes, i use ICS ROM, I made my own modifications and tweaks to the all-bloated ICS Stock ROM get the maximum performance.
But the bugs are really ridiculous.
The battery only charges sometimes if the phone is restarted, otherwise the indicator will be locked at 39%, for example.
The camera seems to be slow compared to the old Stock GingerBread ROM.
The open / close applications is not slow, but sometimes the application takes to respond as if something sucking the system performance.
All these bugs may (or may not) be Sony's problem, but since the era of my old devices I have these SAME problems in some ICS ROMs (I've also tested the FXP CM9 rom, and believe me, if you fill up with apps, will be slow too).
It seems that Android 4.0 ICS is always buggy and slow, and then Eclair 2.1 (horrible) then followed by the 2.2 Froyo (good).
My conclusion: Don't upgrade if you hate a phone will be a little bit slower.
I just do not go back to stock GB ROM why I still enjoy a good user interface instead of performance.
But if you do not like one bit of minimal slowdowns or some bugs, DO NOT bother upgrading to ICS. Just a beautiful day, we have the long awaited Jelly Bean. Even if it is a CM10, the "Butter Project" realizes disappear with lags. And all these little problems may be fixed.
I just let my experience here on this upgrade does not seem that there be a good idea.
Thank you very much
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Stock ROM: go for GingerBread otherwise CM.
Rgds.
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But in android free ram doesn't mean more performance, lag will only appear when RAM reaches the "lag level" (30~25 free ram)
Here on my XPU i have 120~140MB free and i don't have any lag. BTW if you install a bunch of crappy apps and let the bloatware of Sony installed you will certainly will get some lag. Even on a XPP with 1GB of RAM you can feel some lags, i've already tested yet!
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I think lag by alot of app is open. So I endtast and free ram. It Work fine with me.
I prefer the GB which is less power hungry on RAM compared to ICS.
ICS, I find it laggy.
Most games lag on ICS compared to GB.
For me, if I'll choose, I'll go for Custom ROM based on ICS(not the stock one that sony distributed). If you don't like stock ROM then I'll stick to GB because ICS consumes more RAM than GB.