Possible to root after TWUX update? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anyone who was in NYC for the update able to confirm if you can still root after?

This is why I have not tried it yet, not sure if the existing instructions will def work or not.
And I am not savy enough to "figure" it out if something goes wrong.
I feel bad though, I wish I had the courage to just go for it so I could give people here the update files they want.

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2.1 OTA Leak question

I tried searching for a how-to on this but apparently I'm searching inclined.
From what I can gather is it as simple as just dumping the zip onto the root of your SD card and doing:
3. Make sure phone is off then hold Power button and Call Button.
4. The menu opens quickly press the power key over the hboot option.
5. Follow onscreen instructions to install the update. the phone will reboot a few times.
you dont even need to search. go to the development section and then look at the top few, it will have very detailed instructions.
I guess I should have elaborated more and said I don't have my phone rooted and really don't want to go that route. I was just getting confused because everything i was finding on here was people running root but I came across a few things where people said the 2.1OTA Leak was just a straight upgrade, so that is my confusion.
Are you asking how to install the 2.1ota leak? Just flash it onto your phone?
Curious, why do you not want to root your phone?
Root is much more flexible, and there are roms that are based off that leak. If you're worried about your warranty, it's going to void it either way, lol.
Good luck !
rheally said:
Are you asking how to install the 2.1ota leak? Just flash it onto your phone?
Curious, why do you not want to root your phone?
Root is much more flexible, and there are roms that are based off that leak. If you're worried about your warranty, it's going to void it either way, lol.
Good luck !
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but if you have root you can do the downgrade back to 1.5
Android22 said:
but if you have root you can do the downgrade back to 1.5
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Oh right, I forgot about that, duh It just seems like root would be a better choice.
But to each his own.
rheally said:
Are you asking how to install the 2.1ota leak? Just flash it onto your phone?
Curious, why do you not want to root your phone?
Root is much more flexible, and there are roms that are based off that leak. If you're worried about your warranty, it's going to void it either way, lol.
Good luck !
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yeah that is my question, can 2.1OTA just be flashed or does your phone need to be rooted?
I just feel like with root I'll be more likely to kill the phone but I'm going to check into it more again.
If you flash the 2.1 OTA leak onto your phone you CANNOT root your phone. It hasn't been figured out yet.
Root really isn't that hard to do. There are several threads over in the development forum.
rheally said:
If you flash the 2.1 OTA leak onto your phone you CANNOT root your phone. It hasn't been figured out yet.
Root really isn't that hard to do. There are several threads over in the development forum.
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yeah I was just reading the thread on going from stock 1.5 to rooted 2.1. Can you give me some of the major benefits of rooting? I'm trying to find really practical stuff, not just the "Well it's cool cause it's like being root in Linux".
And just to clarify you can just flash to 2.1OTA? I'm skeptical of doing that now because I was reading some people think 2.1OTA has a time sensitive date on it.
Future developments will likely be easier to impliment if you root. The ability to run different (and potentially more stable) ROMs. Support for future software not designed for the Eris. Post rooting you can also make Nandroid backups and as long as you don't somehow screw your bootloader you can actually fix your phone.
Also, and this is pure speculation, should Verison decide to discontinue support for the Eris entirely, non-rooters may have issue getting new Android versions since they're limited to signed code.
EDIT: there is also little reason NOT to root. It does everything that you can do unrooted and more. All this plus the fact that you may never be able to root again but could always unroot at your leisure.
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Future developments will likely be easier to impliment if you root. The ability to run different (and potentially more stable) ROMs. Support for future software not designed for the Eris. Post rooting you can also make Nandroid backups and as long as you don't somehow screw your bootloader you can actually fix your phone.
Also, and this is pure speculation, should Verison decide to discontinue support for the Eris entirely, non-rooters may have issue getting new Android versions since they're limited to signed code.
EDIT: there is also little reason NOT to root. It does everything that you can do unrooted and more. All this plus the fact that you may never be able to root again but could always unroot at your leisure.
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Can you point me to a good nandroid tutorial? tried searching for one but if you know of a good one I'd appreciate it.
I was trying to find a nandroid guide when I did it the first time, but once I discovered that Amon_RA's recovery has it built-in, I decided to wing it and see what happened. It was a lot easier than I expected to be honest.
Reboot your phone into recovery (VOL UP + Power), you should have a short list of options, one of which should be Backup/Restore. Trackball into it and select to make a backup. Let it do it's thing, should take a few minutes. Congratulations, you've made a backup of your phone. You can make as many as you like, they're given names based on the date and time they're created, but you can rename without harm (barring a few characters keep it A-Z a-z 0-9 and you should be good)
Restoring to that backup is as easy as entering the same menu but picking restore instead. You need to have made a backup first in order to restore something.
NOTE: I've written all this by memory, and while it should be fairly accurate, I can't turn my phone off currently to double check that the wording is all correct.
I'm a bit confused on the Amon thing. I found the the link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648025
Do I just dump that IMG file onto the root of my SD card and that's it? Will it know to always use his recovery or do I need to do more?
I have an application that I write to make going from 1.5 to root a lot easier with a gui application. It will be released very soon for everyone to use. Take a look at my thread for more info. Link is at the top of my signature.
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frankspin said:
I'm a bit confused on the Amon thing. I found the the link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648025
Do I just dump that IMG file onto the root of my SD card and that's it? Will it know to always use his recovery or do I need to do more?
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If you followed Ivan's guide to the very end, you already flashed Amon_RA's recovery to your phone. To enter it, shutdown your phone and then hold volume up and the call end button (power), you should boot into the recovery.
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If you followed Ivan's guide to the very end, you already flashed Amon_RA's recovery to your phone. To enter it, shutdown your phone and then hold volume up and the call end button (power), you should boot into the recovery.
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AWESOME! Thank you I am doing it right now.
NM: got it
Well I got 2.1 on but I did something wrong and can't load rooted 2.1. I get "signature verification failed" message when I load the zip file.

[Q] unroot for OTA???

I've rooted my GT 10.1 but I have two questions that I can't find the answer.
1. Has anyone discovered how to unroot back to stock?
2. If rooted, will I be able to get the OTA of touchwiz by checking for updates under settings?
PS I flashed the TouchWiz UX found in this forum. Got to say it is really nice and I can't wait to get the version from Sammy. I then restored a backup using Rom Manager and restored fine except when checking for software updates. It used to say no update available, but today it says failed to connect to servers. Anyone else getting this error?
I guess that is actually 3 questions.
Thanks
1. Unrooting is pretty simple. Just flash the 3.1 OTA in the dev forum, after doing a full wipe. If you feel the need to go back to full stock, you'll also want to nvflash back to the original retail recovery, which you undoubtedly saved when you first rooted.
2. No one knows yet, but rest assured, within a day (less probably) of the update being released, it'll be available here as a rooted flashable ROM. If you learn one thing from your time on XDA, it should be "never accept an OTA update." Let the devs pull it apart and repackage it in a nice root-safe download.
Undoubtedly! (I wish) I wasn't planning to root but while playing with Odin, I thought I was locked at the downloading screen while testing odin. (Didn't hold down the power button long enough to shut off tab) I thought my only solution was to continue and root. No problems rooting, it was easy. I just wanted to make sure I get the TouchWiz update. Now I learned my lesson I will never do an OTA update.
Glad you told me that, otherwise I probably would have screwed up my GT. I don't know how I missed the post about backing up the stock image first. I try to read a lot of posts (heck I even use the search box) before trying something new. Anyway, I'm sure it is posted in the forums somewhere if I need to find it.
Thanks!
pmsrefugee said:
Glad you told me that, otherwise I probably would have screwed up my GT.
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It's not so much that you'll screw up your device by accepting an OTA, but rather that you might lose root and/or your custom recovery (perhaps permanently). Nevertheless, there are some cases of OTAs screwing up devices when accepted over non-stock installs, so IMHO its always best to wait for a flashable ROM.
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I don't know how I missed the post about backing up the stock image first. I try to read a lot of posts (heck I even use the search box) before trying something new. Anyway, I'm sure it is posted in the forums somewhere if I need to find it.
Thanks!
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Yes, I believe the stock retail recovery is posted in the CWM recovery download package here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130574. You'll note that Step 3 is where you were advised to backup your original stock recovery, although the step is (correctly) noted as optional. No big deal, in any event. Glad I could help.

First Time/Noob Rooter seeks Sugestions and guidance please

Hello,
As the Title says im going to attempt to root my Evo 3d this weekend. Well, I have never rooted anything and I have to admit im nervous, excited and in some places very confused while understanding other stuff. Ive tried to read, read read and read some more for the last couple weeks. BUT like I said some things I still kinda lost on. Any of you experienced folks with rooting have any great tips or suggestions? What are all the basics as far as apps and such are a must have? What are preferred? Eventually Id love to get into learning more about Android and be part of the dev world in some way. I am computer literate have a business that does computers and IT now. Just never done any of this with Phones. Ive searched all over XDA and some other sites for as much info.. But maybe im just nervous and unsure as I would hate to brick my Phone but... well you know the desire to do this and learn is really big. My last Android device a HTC hero I left stock. Wish now I would have rooted it. But either way here i am now.
Again Thank you for any help and guidance. Sorry about being so new to this.
Im eager to learn.
constevens
We got a root virgin. It's not as hard as people make it. You could temp root, install titanium backup, and backup all of your user apps but that isnt necessary. Just root your phone using revolutionary(threads and guides in the development section). Then you can install a recovery and flash a rom and get down to business. The easiest guide is right here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192525
I do have Titanium Back up Pro, As well as My back up pro...
I have read the guides on this procedure as well as the Noob beginner stuff about rooting.
Im getting ready to do Temp root then use one of the back up programs (probably Titanium Pro) and do a back up. I assume you just back it up to your SD card and are able to reload from there.
It seems like rooting has some in general things in common but also each device has their own little ways of things.
And Yes... I am a Virgin Root. Lol
constevens said:
I do have Titanium Back up Pro, As well as My back up pro...
I have read the guides on this procedure as well as the Noob beginner stuff about rooting.
Im getting ready to do Temp root then use one of the back up programs (probably Titanium Pro) and do a back up. I assume you just back it up to your SD card and are able to reload from there.
It seems like rooting has some in general things in common but also each device has their own little ways of things.
And Yes... I am a Virgin Root. Lol
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Yes each device does have their own little differences, like while i was rooting my nexus s, i got the easy way out. Someone had made a 1 click root for me so I didn't have to do anything.
But yes, do make sure you backup everything using Titanium Backup Pro (noone told me this while i was rooting and I had to install 150+ apps all over again ).
For me, this thread by forum member 'WillJitsu' was most helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192868
He made youtube walk through videos that were very clear. It's pretty easy but if you are nervous, just watch them a few times and I'm sure you'll get a good idea of the process.
After S-Off, some had 'error 16' messages when trying to dial or text. It happened to me as well. As you might of read, just let the phone connect to Sprint and the representative will fix it on their end. Or just call the activations line and tell them you got a 'error 16' and can't dial, they'll fix it for you. If clockwork recovery fails for you like it did for me, 'WillJitsu' also posted a video for the TeamWin recovery install.
The only problem I had was during the '.zip' name change. On my computer running Windows 7, the file name doesn't show the '.zip' at the end so when I was changing it as instructed, I got errors (since I didn't know, I was accidentally making into a '.zip.zip' thus it never worked). Other than that, it was very simple to do.
Hope it helps and good luck!
Thanks for the replies so far. Any other quirks or things I need to know ? I totally wanna do this. I think tonight I will do temp root do a titanium backup and read some more and check out the videos. Do a factory reset after the temp root then go after the full perm root. Is there any way to avoid the error 16 and customer service call or is it a random issue?
I'm also curious. Let's say I want to return the phone back to stock and unroot it ? Can I and how? Also what's a good ROM for me to start with? Anything to avoid?
Sorry for all the noob questions. I totally apreciate the help and advice.
Sent from my EVO 3d
just read the instructions and follow them step by step and you will be fine
happy flashing!
You should just do the Revolutionary method, no need to temp root anymore. IIRC there were some that had problems since they started with temp root and attempted to do Revolutionary (best to search on this to confirm and see what kind of resolution they took).
Not sure if the Sprint call centers are open on the weekends so probably do it on Monday during their normal business hours.
For the Error 16, don't worry about calling in, they fix it quickly after you answer some account security questions to confirm that you are the actual owner of the account. If you search, someone posted how to do this without calling in but honestly I can't remember if it worked or not plus you might need your msl number.
To revert back to S-On, here's the post by 'rtbluver':
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194053
I've never done the S-On so I can't comment on it.
Whole bunch of ROM's in the Developer section, best to click on them and see what they offer. It really depends on what you want in a ROM.
Good luck, enjoy your 3D!
Thanks all..
Well HiredGUN.45 , I didnt get to read your post before hand but I did do the Temp root. From what I read about doing perma root after doing Temp root is you need to do a factory reset. I assume after doing that I can load my back up from Titanium Pro and it will return it all as it was before temp root? Or do I need to do something different?
And I wont be doing Perma Root Til Monday in case I need to call in for the Error 16 issue.
Heres a question as I dont know......
When Rooting a Phone does it keep all the same functions? I noticed there was a flash/rom for the Radio in the phone. Why would you need to flash that? I still want to make sure I can Text, Call, Use 3 and 4g as well as my other features.
constevens said:
Heres a question as I dont know......
When Rooting a Phone does it keep all the same functions? I noticed there was a flash/rom for the Radio in the phone. Why would you need to flash that? I still want to make sure I can Text, Call, Use 3 and 4g as well as my other features.
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yes, you still keep all the features...just read each rom, pretty sure all roms have everything working but every now and then you may get a bug like we did with the og evo like 4g wouldn't work or hdmi etc...however they would eventually all get fixed due to the great devs we have here.
The reception of your phone depends on a combination of many different things, including your radio. Flashing a new radio will change the performance of your wireless signal, maybe for the better, maybe for the worse...
I would only flash a radio if I were you if a Rom Developer had specific instructions to do so.
First root your phone with revolutionary. Everything will still remain the same as if nothing happened. When your phone boots back up, let it go through the handsfree activation. This should help you avoid the error 16 message. If not try to make a call and let sprint fix the issue, and of course don't mention root. Everything after the actual root process is a step by step learning type of thing. Email me and ill be glad to help you get started with all the benefits of rooting, or if you need help or questions with the actual revolutionary process I can help out as well.
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My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! -Security Off-
Ok I did the Temp root. Used Titanium Back up ( I also use another good back up program that works with bot root and non rooted phones My back up pro) But I did get successful Temp root. I went ahead and made back ups. Then did a factory restore. Wiped both the Phone and SD card. Now I have something different going on. I use a Blueant Blue Toorh head piece. It talks and reports things to you. But before all this When I powered on the Head piece. It would say " Powering up" Followed by "Your Phone is Connected" Then Followed by saying "HTC EVO 3D"
Now it says ALL of that EXCEPT.... When it gets to wher it says the manufacture and name of the phone... It says "PG 86 thousand One hundred" And yes I know thats the Model number of the Phone. But what happened to the HTC Evo 3D call out?
Either way Tomorrow at some point in time Im gonna do Perm root.
r0cky0790 I may just take you up on your offer. Thanks!!!
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r0cky0790 I may just take you up on your offer. Thanks!!!
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Alright just hit me up if you need some help. Im no Android genius but far from a noob. I'll just be setting you straight with all the basic knowledge and some extra tips to get you up to speed.
My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! -Security Off-
After you root and activate and verify that everything is working on your rooted stock rom, I'd recommend that you do a nandroid backup before you start flashing other roms. That way, you'll always be able to find your way back to where you were right after rooting in case things go south. Be sure to check the box next to "wimax" and verify that they get backed up with everything else. Should be around 12MB of data in a folder at the backup location on your SD card. Wouldn't hurt to keep a couple full backups.
The ability to nandoid backup is the main reason I root my androids.
Jason
techspec06 said:
After you root and activate and verify that everything is working on your rooted stock rom, I'd recommend that you do a nandroid backup before you start flashing other roms. That way, you'll always be able to find your way back to where you were right after rooting in case things go south. Be sure to check the box next to "wimax" and verify that they get backed up with everything else. Should be around 12MB of data in a folder at the backup location on your SD card. Wouldn't hurt to keep a couple full backups.
The ability to nandoid backup is the main reason I root my androids.
Jason
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This is good info right here. So I can do a Nandroid Back up of my factory set up.. and if I want to go back or need to I can? Very cool.
So how does one do this and what tools does one need?
constevens said:
This is good info right here. So I can do a Nandroid Back up of my factory set up.. and if I want to go back or need to I can? Very cool.
So how does one do this and what tools does one need?
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You do this VIA your recovery menu under 'nandroid'. I just rooted mine today and had a couple stumbling blocks that weren't outlined in the root guide and I can see pplnew to this banging their heads out of frustration.feel free to pm me if you run into any issues. You may run into an issue with adb not seeing your device,and your bootloader not seeing your recovery.zip both had me stumped for a while but the fixes were really easy.
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So it sounds like the Teamwin recover is a preferred over the clockwork???
Also want to say You all have been very awesome and thanks a ton for assisting a new person to the forms as well as the Android world. Its been very refreshing and fun. You all Rock!
Ok ive now got S-off...... Im trying to install the Teamwin Recovery.
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Ok I did the Temp root. Used Titanium Back up ( I also use another good back up program that works with bot root and non rooted phones My back up pro) But I did get successful Temp root. I went ahead and made back ups. Then did a factory restore. Wiped both the Phone and SD card. Now I have something different going on. I use a Blueant Blue Toorh head piece. It talks and reports things to you. But before all this When I powered on the Head piece. It would say " Powering up" Followed by "Your Phone is Connected" Then Followed by saying "HTC EVO 3D"
Either way Tomorrow at some point in time Im gonna do Perm root.
r0cky0790 I may just take you up on your offer. Thanks!!!
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If you did what i just highlighted then you basically temp rooted for nothing. From my limited understanding, temp rooting is just to get a Titanium backup of the stock phone in case anything happens. But if you wiped the phone AND the SD card then you erased any backup you made.

SHARP INFOBAR C01: Rooting, Unlocking, Installing ROMs

I need some help with this, and seeing that people have worked on the Infobar A01/02 I would assume there's people here who can tackle this. I have no idea how you would go about Rooting or Unlocking a SHARP device, let alone a Japanese one and I don't see the C01 listed anywhere.
I'd also like to know how I would go about installing a ROM alongside the default one on here.
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I need some help with this, and seeing that people have worked on the Infobar A01/02 I would assume there's people here who can tackle this. I have no idea how you would go about Rooting or Unlocking a SHARP device, let alone a Japanese one and I don't see the C01 listed anywhere.
I'd also like to know how I would go about installing a ROM alongside the default one on here.
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Anyone at all? The least I'd need to know is how to boot into recovery mode. I found one site that talks about the power and volume buttons at startup but nothing happens. I've gotten into recovery with a G1 but that's about it. Do I have to like inject my own recovery bootloader or something?
Bumping, still no luck on finding a GingerBread 2.3.4 rooting option.
I'm trying to inject su and Superuser manually but I can't mount with the recovery menu, so I'm trying to install CWM but I need root to do that, but that gives me root to give myself root. l:L
I'm in a vicious cycle, pls send hepl im dyign
What's a universal root method for GingerBread 2.3.4?
Just found out you can't get a universal root for 2.3.4 and that you have to have a custom method. Ho how would you go about making a root method at all?
I also think that the phone has a locked bootloader which would explain why I can't access the recovery menu options. I feel a bit silly, I suppose that's a large reason why some of this stuff isn't working at all. If anyone knows some Infobar bootloader stuff just feel free to post.
I just found a thread about someone else trying to figure out all of the things I'm trying to figure out only it's not on an Infobar but another Sharp device on KDDI. I think they eventually found someone else had made a root, but I kinda didn't read the entire thread. Still wondering if anyone has already got a solution.
Much the same
I have a c01 here in the UK, still wearing factory stickers. A very poor buy, considering I can't make a call with it. I have looked high and low but can't get anywhere with it. Sharp/kddi/AU I have asked them all. No can do. Although I read a Canadian chap had his unlocked by them, they simply won't at any cost.
I can't even get a phone shop to look at it.
To be honest, I know about as much as my gran about mobiles. I'm a quick study, but would rather pay, if there was somebody to pay.
Any positive direction would be much appreciated. Best advice so far is to bin it and try to forget.

[info]custom recovery progression

so i had this thought. we talk alot in the "rom's" thread about the progression of the custom recovery.
although my phone is on servide and i cant do much ar this point but i hope i get it back in a couple of weeks.
but my thought was this.. everyone here should post all files they can to make this work.
what they have tried and what did not work so people dont have to try it again.
whos working hard on this and what theire progression is, or if anyone can post files that could work and perhaps some tutorials for it.
i think that would be better then to update this OP and write everything down that have been tried and so on.
it was just a thought to make this work out its best way. ive been sending PM's to som developers and asked if they could give me some tutorials on this but non has answeres yet. ive been trying alot of different adb reboot commands, nothing work. i also was that stupid and tried autorec for lg g2 and that bricked my phone HARD so dont ever try that.
Loki is the key for this phone, I don't think that anything else works.
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Loki is the key for this phone, I don't think that anything else works.
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okej then. loki it is. now how do we go about to port this to our device?
found this, my phone like i said is on service so yeah, take a look
http://androidforums.com/motion-4g-all-things-root/733454-tried-port-loki-failed.html
and have a look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43480931&postcount=11
perhaps if we give djrbliss this info he can help us out?

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