[Q] Looking for upgrade advice/opinions still on 2.2.2 - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Guys,
I am still on 4.1.83 my phone never even asked me to upgrade. All the apps that I use work great and I have decent battery life (gets me thru a moderate day).
I was unlocked from 26 to 57 but screwed up and lost it on 83.
So everything works great other than that I get the occasional spontaneous reboot every 2-3 days.
So my first question: is it still worth upgrading to 2.3.4? Do people still have those reboots on 2.3.4? I am also concerned that by battery life decreases.
So right now I am living by: "dont fix it, if it aint broke".
Second question: if I would decide to upgrade, should I unlock first? Not use OTA? What is the best way to go 2.3.4 while keeping all my options open like root/unlock/downgrade/CM7. I would definitely like a way back to 2.2.2 just in case.
Will an OTA upgrade close the door to some of those options?
Thanks!

the important thing to remember is that upgrading does more then just bring bug fixes. 2.3 brought a lot of changes to 2.2, you can check them out here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
You should upgrade, and I do not have reboot issues on 2.3.4. Your battery life should increase on 2.3.4. Using I noticed a significant change in battery and performance on my N1 when you went from 2.2 to 2.3 - enough so that as soon as I got my atrix I immediately upgraded.
Safely you can OTA to 2.3.4 and then unlock & root using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871 and flash CM7 when it's released. you will not be able to downgrade.
I haven't seen it done, and you would have to investigate but you may be able to flash 2.3.4 using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163342&page=1 if you unlock your bootloader on 1.83

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Poor Reception and poorer battery life with ATT 2.1 upgrade

I had to make sure it was an upgrade issue so I went back to 1.6 and I haven’t gotten no network coverage, and the battery last a whole lot longer…. I don’t know why but 2.1 is pretty bad, sure its faster, but if you have no reception and has to have a charger at hand, it defeats the purpose of upgrading.. I would like to know if this is because of flashed rom, or this is an issue with all 2.1’s?
Sounds like an isolated problem. It's been six months since the 2.1 update, and I have not heard this. Did you try repair software via SEUS or PC Companion before going back to 1.6?
try to use Flashtool to make a new fresh 2.1 may fix your issue
agentJBM said:
Sounds like an isolated problem. It's been six months since the 2.1 update, and I have not heard this. Did you try repair software via SEUS or PC Companion before going back to 1.6?
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I didn't try that, because I thought for some reason if you use SEUS it will block you from downgrading to 1.6 if have a need to go back.
gabnj said:
I didn't try that, because I thought for some reason if you use SEUS it will block you from downgrading to 1.6 if have a need to go back.
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I think it already will block you, because your CDA number has changed and unbranded to global generic. In order to flash back to 1.6 with flash tool, you need to use root explorer or adb to edit the build.prop file back to AT&T branded 1.6.
Try using some of the custom roms - I always found battery life greatly improved (2.1 & 2.2) not to mention the speed and feature improvements.
Give it a go, it's not difficult and you may get a pleasant surprise.
Hey bro u have to let the upgrade settle in for a couple of days. That's stupid to flash it then ten seconds later say this sucks.
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Lion3494 said:
Hey bro u have to let the upgrade settle in for a couple of days. That's stupid to flash it then ten seconds later say this sucks.
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Exactly.
@gabnj -After one day of use and you are giving up? Android needs to build up its cache and everything will be good after a few days. Go read 2.1 after effects thread found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824721&highlight=after+effects
You will see that a lot of people had the same issue(s) as you. As for poor reception, I don't know. Like the Agent says it might be isolated. Your phone should still be under warranty with AT&T, take it to their repair service location and have it checked out.

When did random reboots start?

Hi.
I am about to unroot and go back to otb stock. I am wondering if anyone knows for sure when the random reboots that I, and several others encounter, first started because I need to know whether to do the OTA after I go back to stock.
From my memory....... :
Wasn't there 2 OTA's?
And the random reboots started after installing the 2nd one?
So should I just install the first one.......orrrr......does it automatically only give one OTA direct to the 2nd one released?
Or should I not install any OTA's at all and patiently wait for Gingerbread........
Thanks!
We have MR1, MR2, and MR2.5 but I think only MR1 was an official OTA (dont quote me on it tho since I have been rooted since I got the phone and have never received an OTA). I think the reboot issue has been a problem for a lot of people for the entire time and isnt a new thing. IIRC MR1 caused quite a few reboot issues but not for everyone. I personally ran w/o any reboots until I got to 2.5 and even then I have only ever had 1. Its just what works best for you.
You will be waiting patiently for quite a while for official GB from what I have heard on the boards but you can always try out some of the GB ROMs that we have already.
Beastclaw said:
We have MR1, MR2, and MR2.5 but I think only MR1 was an official OTA (dont quote me on it tho since I have been rooted since I got the phone and have never received an OTA). I think the reboot issue has been a problem for a lot of people for the entire time and isnt a new thing. IIRC MR1 caused quite a few reboot issues but not for everyone. I personally ran w/o any reboots until I got to 2.5 and even then I have only ever had 1. Its just what works best for you.
You will be waiting patiently for quite a while for official GB from what I have heard on the boards but you can always try out some of the GB ROMs that we have already.
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You are correct Beast there has only been one official OTA. My wife is not rooted but I am
Well I went back to stock because I was gonna try to go to Verizon today and swap it out.....
I find it funny this exactly what I was going to ask today myself. I'm also running bamf remix 1.8, have tried all the radios and even installed bamf 2.0 for GB with the Mr 2.0/2.5 radios. Still got reboots. Now I want to go back to stock and unroot so I can go back to the store and swap it
Just wonder if its worth it, maybe if they let me swap SD cards
I just un-rooted my phone about two days ago. After, I did the OTA update. I hadn't seen any problems until today. I live in a 4G area and work in a (up until Monday) 3G area. Since Monday they have been testing out a 4G tower. I have had 4G until this morning, I just figured that they were still testing it out and had switched it off. Well, about an hour ago I got my first Reboot. When the phone came back up I noticed that the 4G had just came back on. I'm pretty sure that's what triggered my reboot. So in short, as long as they keep the 4G going I don't have any issues.
Just curious is the update worth doing? And if i do it do i go ahead and install the GB bamf rom and radio? or just go back to my current 1.8 remix?
im curious what you guys have your phones overclocked at? I am rooted on the RC3 bamf 3.0 and the only time I have seen reboots is when i had my phone overclocked to high. now that im at 1.42 on the bamf cpu (I disabled my setCPU) and it has been solid.

[Q] Radio, which one is everyone using ?

Just curious on which radio everyone gets best results with ? I ran the mr3, 3.5 but it seemed to have a lot of data drop, so i reverted back to mr2.5 leak, this one used to be so reliable but now its acting just like the mr3s.. or maybe the network now has much more load but id still like to see wut everyone is running
I am using the one that came with the mostly stock (rooted and deodexed) official MR2 release (not leaked). This was before the one click rooting method came out so my phone is rooted the old fashioned way with the complicated engineering bootloader method.

Official update due soon. Is it worth it?

Ive rooted and have been running custom roms. I guess this question is aimed towards our american friends. Is the update worth it? Or are the custom roms available better and the emergance of cm7?
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Roms are better than the 2.3.4 update from Motorola. The best ROM is cm7. But the best everything working ROM in my opinion is Alien ROM which includes webtop and HDMI.
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We may really tell only when the update is out. I once read that Motorola is delaying Gingerbread for Europe because many modifications are needed. It seems that Atrix and Atrix 4G do really have differences.
I needed to install many tweaks for making Alien #4 perform well on my European, retail Atrix (1bar bug for 3G, A-GPS, a custom kernel, ..).
Moreover, radios out there are not suited for "Euro - retail" Atrix (not 4G) running custom Gingerbread ROMs. I found that the best radios for Italy (I suppose for Europe, too) are still N_01.95.00R (the one that comes with retail Atrix, designed for Froyo) and N_01.100.00R (Orange FR radio). The first performs better in terms of battery life, the second has great connectivity. Substitute N_01.95.00R with the radio that came with your Atrix, in case.
I tried N_01.100.00R but decided to switch back to N_01.95.00R. Currently I am using Cyanogenmod because it is the ROM less built around a specific carrier. I'm quite happy with that.
Probably, the best combination will be to use the radios that Motorola will release for European customers when GB is out here plus Cyanogenmod.
Hope that this helps clarifying.
Thanks. I have seen issues with the custom roms. Mainly lacking in signal when i know i usually have a full signal. How would you flash a radio on atrix...via sbf or is there flashable roms?
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Sexywacko said:
Thanks. I have seen issues with the custom roms. Mainly lacking in signal when i know i usually have a full signal. How would you flash a radio on atrix...via sbf or is there flashable roms?
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you can do it both ways, they exist in SBF form and .zip
there is also a one bar fix that you may want to try, search for it in the dev section
Just a thought: I ended up rooting and installing CM7 within a couple of weeks of buying my Atrix. If you're not bothered about fingerprint scanner and webtop then I think it is a lot better than stock Froyo in terms of performance.
Of course, now Gingerbread is looking like it will be on European phones officially "soon" but think about it: when you've just installed gingerbread with that motoblur overlay, CM9 based on ICS will probably be making its way to devices and aren't you going to be real jealous?!
Come on, you'll probably end up with Cyanogenmod at some point so why not take the plunge now? I honestly believe if you follow the instructions and get everything installed correctly, you won't be disappointed... just happy in the knowledge you'll always be on the path to the next upgrade!
Sexywacko said:
Thanks. I have seen issues with the custom roms. Mainly lacking in signal when i know i usually have a full signal. How would you flash a radio on atrix...via sbf or is there flashable roms?
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As already posted both possibilities exist. I see from your avatar that you are a Linux user like me. Then beware that, if you will use sbf_flash for flashing sbf, never flash a radio that comes as a CWM file. sbf_flash will never overwrite it then and you will need to use Windows and RSD-Lite.
See more on a previous question posted by me. It started as a question on how to revert back to Froyo after Gingerbread update, but a very helpful user also told me about flashing radios, creating sbf radios/roms and about the sbf_flash bug
I can give or take cm7 yeah its awesome. But still too buggy. And unfortunately i hate the look of stock android. My signal is half what it should be.
So i have restored the original stock rom via cwm. Never realised how good the battery was. Heavy usage involving sat nav. Loads of wifi including facebook, market, xda and a few phone calls. 15 hours off charge and still 70%!!
Im waiting for the ota. Then maybe things may run smoother in regards radios and so on with other roms.
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I too am waiting on the official Gingerbread update for my UK Orange Atrix and fingers crossed, should be coming within the next week or two (Mid November has been quoted)
I'm still on Stock 2.2 having only had the Atrix for 1 week but am already feeling the custom Rom pull.
I guess it would be best to play with the official Gingerbread Rom for a week or two (when it comes haha) and if it's lacking then hit the custom's then - that's my plan anyways
Sexywacko said:
So i have restored the original stock rom via cwm. Never realised how good the battery was. Heavy usage involving sat nav. Loads of wifi including facebook, market, xda and a few phone calls. 15 hours off charge and still 70%!!
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Can you please tell which radio and System are installed on your Atrix now? I would like to try them on mine. Your battery usage looks awesome! Are you also using 3G when wi-fi is not connected?
bodom_lx said:
Can you please tell which radio and System are installed on your Atrix now? I would like to try them on mine. Your battery usage looks awesome! Are you also using 3G when wi-fi is not connected?
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These are what i am using....complete stock.
N_01.77.30P
4.4.35.MB860.retail.en.GB
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Interesting. I also am having the same base but a different stock radio. Mine Atrix came with N_01.95.00R. Wonder why
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I forgot i flashed a different radio. Lol the one you are using is my stock one. Which im back on now. Official Gingerbread this week!!!!!
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I installed it, the sbf for my Atrix was posted three days ago in the Firmwares Superthread. It is amazing.
It comes with N_01.100.00R radio, that perfectly works with this ROM. Great 3G connectivity, great WiFi stability, GPS gets the signal in a bunch of seconds and battery life is great: after 07hrs and 30minutes of light usage (3G on, Gmail + Twitter on and sporadic Internet browsing), the battery level is still between 90% and 80%. Best ROM I've ever used.
so have you installed the OTA gingerbread?
or have you gone custom? i'm still awaiting the official update coming this week???
i've just bought the work and play kit.....so im hoping for 2 things coming this week!!
bodom_lx said:
I installed it, the sbf for my Atrix was posted three days ago in the Firmwares Superthread. It is amazing.
It comes with N_01.100.00R radio, that perfectly works with this ROM. Great 3G connectivity, great WiFi stability, GPS gets the signal in a bunch of seconds and battery life is great: after 07hrs and 30minutes of light usage (3G on, Gmail + Twitter on and sporadic Internet browsing), the battery level is still between 90% and 80%. Best ROM I've ever used.
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Could i install that UK retail over the top of my Orange froyo firmware? I'm only rooted at the moment, haven't unlocked my BL yet
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Hi there everyone! I am a total NOOB at rooting and flashing etc I was hoping that you guys could help me. I am British, and I have an Atrix that is a french retail version 4.2.11. Is it possible to root/flash this phone without bricking it? would really appreciate feedback as the official update is meant to be coming out soon and I heard that updating to gingerbread will make it unrootable. Many thanks in advance!
Adamhthe1st said:
Hi there everyone! I am a total NOOB at rooting and flashing etc I was hoping that you guys could help me. I am British, and I have an Atrix that is a french retail version 4.2.11. Is it possible to root/flash this phone without bricking it? would really appreciate feedback as the official update is meant to be coming out soon and I heard that updating to gingerbread will make it unrootable. Many thanks in advance!
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updating to gingerbread does not make it unrootable it just means you need to use a different method,
you can flash with RSD if you want to try out some other builds though, just do some reading first and figure out how to fix it if you get a soft brick
Sexywacko said:
so have you installed the OTA gingerbread?
or have you gone custom? i'm still awaiting the official update coming this week???
i've just bought the work and play kit.....so im hoping for 2 things coming this week!!
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The Gingerbread OTA will lock the bootloader and probably install the malicious bootloader. We don't have info about the European OTA and the contained bootloader, so we assume that it is the same as the one contained in the USA OTA.
Therefore, I did not wait for the OTA. I indirectly installed the SBF mentioned before (it corresponds to the one I would have gotten with the OTA).
"Indirectly" means that I converted the SBF into moto-fastboot images and the radio into a radio-SBF image.
In this way I have the old, unlocked and not dangerous bootloader plus the new system, webtop and radio. It is safer in this way.
decker39 said:
Could i install that UK retail over the top of my Orange froyo firmware? I'm only rooted at the moment, haven't unlocked my BL yet
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Yes but first unlock the bootloader, then try the UK retail but don't flash the SBF! You should convert it to moto-fastboot images (plus the SBF-radio) and install them. It should work well in France, but try it by yourself
Adamhthe1st said:
Hi there everyone! I am a total NOOB at rooting and flashing etc I was hoping that you guys could help me. I am British, and I have an Atrix that is a french retail version 4.2.11. Is it possible to root/flash this phone without bricking it? would really appreciate feedback as the official update is meant to be coming out soon and I heard that updating to gingerbread will make it unrootable. Many thanks in advance!
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Regarding update to Gingerbread:
Never install the Gingerbread OTA if you want to hack your phone and you don't have experience doing it. The OTA may contain a malicious bootloader that hinders further hacking. Quite sure it contains it. For sure, if you install the GB OTA and flash a Froyo sbf, it will brick the phone. It is still possible to install custom ROMs after the GB OTA, but it is better to manually update your phone instead of doing the OTA.
I am not sure about what happens if you just flash the original Motorola Gingerbread over your official Motorola Froyo. Fur sure it will work but I think that it will install the malicious bootloader
Rooting is always possible, it will never brick your device. Since you're a beginner, give a read to the beginners guide. It also contains rooting/unlocking instructions
Can anyone tell me if its possible to use US roms like the Alien ROM reviewed by a user called Zedomax on YouTube? I'm from the UK.
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OTA 65.1.12.XT910.AsiaRetain.en.03 to 65.1.21.en.03 & keep ROOT?

Hi. I love my RAZR. Except for the lack of FM radio. Grr.
Anyway, I rooted the other day with whatever the heck it was that had lots of "zerglings." (WTF!??? zergling?!)
Anyway, I'm now being offered an OTA update as in the title of this thread? If I use OTA Rootkeeper will I definitely keep root? I'm really not in the mood to start flashing, reflashing, unbricking, downgrading, rerooting, etc. I just want to know if using OTA rootkeeper will definitely let me keep my root, or if I stand a risk of spending 9 hours of my life restoring my bricked phone & trying to reroot.
Also, does anyone have any clue as to what the upgrade does better (or worse?) than then ROM I'm currently running? I'm hoping that the WiFi reception gets a little better, that's all, otherwise this phone is perfect. Except for the lack of FM radio. Grrr.

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