I have a few questions about the OTA update. I read that users with rooted Tabs and CWM were able to pull and install the update without losing root or CWM. If this is the case, what is the benefit of downloading and flashing a pre-rooted build?
If I understand correctly, flashing the rooted build requires a full wipe, so you lose all data. However, the official OTA leaves everything intact. If root access and ClockworkMod are left in-place and fully functional, why would you rather start from scratch?
some people report little problem when flashing the OTA
being rooted and flashing the pre rooted ROM here can prevent these problems by installing from scratch with a wipe then restoring its apps with Titanium backup or Mybackup Pro
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I just got the the new 2.3.6 OTA update by following directions here:
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/update-atrix-2-to-android-2-3-6-ota-with-root-retained/
Got my root back and I am extremely HAPPY!
I also think i have been extremely lucky (and cautious) not to have encountered any problems. The only mod I have is ROOT.
If the install Tenfar's recovery (or his touch recovery) and do a backup of my current rom, will I encounter any problems installing the new ICS update when it becomes available? or are there any other downsides to it?
I think doing a recovery backup at this point is a good idea, I just want to be sure I will not cause any future update issues.
I am a NOOB. Thanks for any advice.
panflute said:
I just got the the new 2.3.6 OTA update by following directions here:
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/update-atrix-2-to-android-2-3-6-ota-with-root-retained/
Got my root back and I am extremely HAPPY!
I also think i have been extremely lucky (and cautious) not to have encountered any problems. The only mod I have is ROOT.
If the install Tenfar's recovery (or his touch recovery) and do a backup of my current rom, will I encounter any problems installing the new ICS update when it becomes available? or are there any other downsides to it?
I think doing a recovery backup at this point is a good idea, I just want to be sure I will not cause any future update issues.
I am a NOOB. Thanks for any advice.
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Do not, repeat DO NOT install tenfar's Recovery.... it is a dinosaur. Use Rom Racers or Rom Manager.
Sent from my CM7 Atrix 4G
having the recovery installed or making a backup would not have an impact on the ota update. Being rooted, unlocked and/or running a non stock rom could be a factor. Good idea to have nandroid b/u! git'r'dun!
ROM Manager or Rom Racer's?
mrphil101 said:
having the recovery installed or making a backup would not have an impact on the ota update. Being rooted, unlocked and/or running a non stock rom could be a factor. Good idea to have nandroid b/u! git'r'dun!
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OK great. All I want to do is keep my root - and I am not interested in any custom ROMS. I do not want to unlock my Atrix. All I want is a (nandroid) backup just in case my Atrix has a mishap.
Which is the BETTER route to take: ROM Manager or Rom Racer's?? I don't mind paying for ROM Manager. I just want the safest surest easiest full backup without messing up the future OTA ICS update.
The reason I ask is I thought you had to be unlocked in order to install CWM backup with ROM Manager.
thanks again
all you really need to accept an OTA is to be on a relatively un-modded stock rom,and have the stock recovery.
as long as you meet those criteria,the OTA will happen. it will break root,and it will bring back all your deleted/frozen system apps,but its no biggie.
htcdev is somewhat like "s-off" in that you will always be able to re-root extremely easily by launching a recovery,and reflashing your superuser root files.
no need to relock,no real need to try and "preserve" your root with apps,as htcdev is not an exploit that is going to disapear.
when i first got my rezound,the OTA snuck in on me,and went without issue.
while you will have to re-freeze or delete system apps that come back,your other personal data,settings,and user apps will be safe and intact.
trying to take an OTA while running a custom recovery will NOT work. the results range from a simple failed OTA,a recoverable bootloop,or even a partially installed OTA wich will result in a non-functional rom. so again,make sure youre running the stock recovery.
hope that helps
Hey I recently rooted my i9300( 4.1.1) using odin and cf-root and now I realised I never used the benefits of rooting and it seems to do me more harm than good (No offense) .I've got tons of apps installed and backuped via titanium backup and I heard your can't restore the backup once you unroot as titanium backup requires root access.
So I was wondering if its possible to unroot and without losing date or getting ota update to 4.1.2 and losing the root that way without losing data?
Kies doesn't seem to work well for updates though it seems.
Thanks
I'm curious, what's the harm the rooting caused you?
You can press Full unroot in the SU app
well harm was probably the wrong word ,it's just I messed with titanium backup and I tend to factory restore my phone a lot because it would never connect to kies . I just wanted to use stock rom because it seems to just work ,actually the whole point was because I wanted 4.1.2 without losing data and I thought it could only be done if I unrooted and use the ota update on kies.
So is there anyways to get that update while retaining root and data?
I am working my wife's Note 2 that is running 4.1.2 VRAMC3, I had rooted it and loaded TWRP on it, then she started getting prompts for the OTA for 4.3 the update keeps failing when trying to run it in TWRP, clockworkmod recovery, and i tried using Odin to restore stock recovery and it keeps failing, what are my options to get the OTA without wiping her starting fresh with her phone, my wife doesnt care about modding the phone, I only rooted it for just one app and now we dont need it anymore.
May I suggest ditching the OTA and flashing the OTA sans locked bootloader image found in the development forum? You get the latest & greatest without losing your unlocked bootloader or root.
To your question of upgrading without data loss: it looks like you are stuck with having to do a fresh install no matter which route you take: flashing a bootloader-free version will require a clean install and installing the locked bootloader version will require the Verizon Software Update application on your computer, which will do the same.
Three options.
Disable SDM 1.0 That is the update program. It will stop bugging you and she can stay where she is.
Flash a 4.3 ROM in recovery, that will mean a data wipe.
Follow the thread below to odin back to stock and take the upgrade. You will have a data wipe that way also and you will be bootloader locked probably forever.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
[GUIDE][VZW Edition]How to Root/Rom/Return to Stock the VZW Galaxy Note II!
I have an Incredible 4g on Verizon that I acquired during the first week of release. I was fortunate enough to get it unlocked during the time when HTC allowed it from their site. I unlocked the phone, installed TWRP, and rooted my device (I'm not entirely sure how I did this).
It's been over a year now, and my phone is kind of sluggish. How can I go about updating this phone to the latest software? I'd settle for the latest OTA from Verizon, as long as I can keep it rooted.
I'm also willing to flash one of the other kernels, but I dont really have any experience flashing CM or Viper.
So what's the best way to go about doing this? How do you update an already rooted phone? Ideally I'd like to keep all apps/data during the update. Any information or links for how to update appreciated!
My phones details:
Android 4.0.3
HTC Sense 4.0
Software: 1.43.605.3.710RD
HTC SDK API: 4.11
it probably won't even install unless you return to stock recovery.
another poster already confirmed losing root after installing the update.
imo - the update is not worth it anyway. they other thread lists the changes... nothing significant.
if your phone is sluggish either find out what is causing it (app, etc), tweak performance using your root, or wipe it and start clean. i would not give up an unlocked, rooted device for this update.
j13smiley said:
it probably won't even install unless you return to stock recovery.
another poster already confirmed losing root after installing the update.
imo - the update is not worth it anyway. they other thread lists the changes... nothing significant.
if your phone is sluggish either find out what is causing it (app, etc), tweak performance using your root, or wipe it and start clean. i would not give up an unlocked, rooted device for this update.
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Is this just for stock updates, or for Viper/VM mods as well? I'm willing to step up to 4.3 or 4.4 with one of these custom ROMs, assuming I can keep root.
Is this a complicated process to install one of these custom ROMs (anything special since my phone is so "old")?
Will I have to wipe and install from scratch as well?
You can always clear your cache and davek cache to help improve speeds.
zackiv31 said:
Is this just for stock updates, or for Viper/VM mods as well? I'm willing to step up to 4.3 or 4.4 with one of these custom ROMs, assuming I can keep root.
Is this a complicated process to install one of these custom ROMs (anything special since my phone is so "old")?
Will I have to wipe and install from scratch as well?
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Installing a fresh/new ROM is very easy, and it will indeed require reinstalling apps. However, Look at getting Titanium Backup Root - I highly recommend the Pro version - you can back up all of your apps and data. Once performing a full TiB backup to your external SD card, you can wipe and install a fresh ROM, then restore any/all apps and data backed up with TiB. The app will pick up right where you backed it up, settings and all. You may need to re-set up a few apps (such as email settings).
If you like sense, I recommend ViperLTE. It's very close to stock Sense, but offers several great tweaks you can choose to use (or not). Installing it is easy if you have TWRP recovery installed. If you don't have TRWP installed, look at mdmower's thread for that recovery. I also highly recommend performing a full Nandroid backup to your external SD card before doing anything.
j13smiley said:
it probably won't even install unless you return to stock recovery.
another poster already confirmed losing root after installing the update.
imo - the update is not worth it anyway. they other thread lists the changes... nothing significant.
if your phone is sluggish either find out what is causing it (app, etc), tweak performance using your root, or wipe it and start clean. i would not give up an unlocked, rooted device for this update.
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Very true... I, too, lost root after OTA update. I've tried every method I could find to attempt to unlock bootloader now with update... even tried wipe and flash of stock RUU 2.17.605.2: unable to go back to older version due to updated bootloader (wouldn't let me load it).
It'd be nice if HTCdev simply updated for a .bin that'll work... I tried flashing unlock_code.bin from previous experiences... but wouldn't work either. Any rumors of a new method to unlock the new bootloader?