Goofy problem but every rom I have tried will not update tweetdeck properly in the background with the screen black, except for xtrsense. Even the original stock rom does not work properly at doing this. Has anyone else had the same problem? Is there a fix?
I would love to be able to go to one of the 2.2 or 2.3 roms but i need tweetdeck to update properly on my accounts.
Side question - will there be a 2.2 or 2.3 for xtrsense?
Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
Tweetdeck is one of my key apps and I have no trouble at all with it on CELB Froyo or GSB. The only ROM I had an issue with was a later version of Nonsensikal. For some reason, that had an Autokiller-like aggressive memory setting and Tweetdeck would not stay open in the background.
Unlike many other twitter clients, Tweetdeck has no way to autostart and seems to have no server component to get updates, and aggressive memory settings will close the app when it is in the background. If you are using autokiller or something like it, using the optimum preset seems to work pretty well. Just vanilla GSB settings are just fine.
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Side question - will there be a 2.2 or 2.3 for xtrsense?
Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
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Gscript for Apps2SD? I never heard of a GScript for that capability. There's an Apps2SD flashable zip which adds the Apps2SD script to your phone, if that's what you're talking about, but you don't use it in GScript.
Technically and completely literally, there never can be a 2.2 or 2.3 version of xtrSENSE because xtrSENSE is (currently) based on the July OTA 2.1, so it's a heavily modified version of THE official ROM for the Eris. There is no official 2.2 or 2.3 for the Eris, so there's no 2.2 or 2.3 stock ROM with Sense to base a new Eris ROM on.
Devs have worked on 2.2 and 2.3-based Sense ROMs based on stuff from other phones, but none of them are as stable and "finished" as the original stock ROM, or even xtrSENSE. Things don't work such as Wifi and Camera, and possibly some other difficulties. They haven't given up but they've been beating their heads against the wall for months for Froyo Sense. At this point, there's probably a marginally better chance that we'll ever have a port of a Gingerbread Sense which has everything working, over Froyo Sense.
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Tweetdeck is one of my key apps and I have no trouble at all with it on CELB Froyo or GSB. The only ROM I had an issue with was a later version of Nonsensikal. For some reason, that had an Autokiller-like aggressive memory setting and Tweetdeck would not stay open in the background.
Unlike many other twitter clients, Tweetdeck has no way to autostart and seems to have no server component to get updates, and aggressive memory settings will close the app when it is in the background. If you are using autokiller or something like it, using the optimum preset seems to work pretty well. Just vanilla GSB settings are just fine.
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I use advanced app killer but i do not let that run all the time, I just start it when I want to manually kill apps.
It is just so weird with tweetdeck not updating in the background right, except on xtrsense. I just dont get it
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Gscript for Apps2SD? I never heard of a GScript for that capability. There's an Apps2SD flashable zip which adds the Apps2SD script to your phone, if that's what you're talking about, but you don't use it in GScript.
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Yes, he has a gscript script built in to xtrsense that you can just load and run to do it.
I will have to redo my sdcard again and see if that fixes it. I still like how 2.3 lets you move the apps though. It is a WHOLE lot easier.
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Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
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That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
The original post in the xtrSENSE thread explains this pretty well. The relevant portions are here:
Apps2sd and Cache2sd:
I have revamped my implementation of apps2sd to use simpler and better organized scripts. For apps2sd to work you must first complete the listed prerequisites and it is a good idea to read through the "things you may want to know about apps2sd" section. Although it can provide gobs of space for apps, Apps2sd is not for everyone as it ties the stability of your phone to your SD card... If you do not need the space I would recommend that you keep the default of DISABLED; if you want to try you can always disable it again however there is always the chance of issues.
To enable/disable apps2sd and cache2sd just run the appropriate GScript and reboot your phone (Quick Boot makes this easy!).
Prerequisites
If you have not setup your SD card (for those new to Apps2sd) as per tkirton:
BACKUP YOUR SD CARD TO YOUR COMPUTER. Can't stress this enough, as partitioning will wipe the entire card.
Reboot into recovery
In Android System Recovery, select Partition sdcard
In the Partition sdcard menu, select Partition SD
Follow the instructions on the phone to partition your SD card. Most folks seem to recommend using the default values however you can go larger or smaller use values 256, 512,768,1024. You will also be asked to set a swap size; I stayed at 32mb (anticipate future ROM options to allow moving swap to sd)
Once the partition is initially created you must then convert to ext3 - In the Partition sdcard menu, select SD:ext2 to ext3. Follow the instructions on the screen.
Press the back button on the phone to go back to the main menu.
Your SD card is now ready to work with an Apps2sd supported ROM.
Things you may want to know about apps2sd
Bootloop protection is built in if your SD card is corrupted or is removed from the phone with Apps2sd enabled. Your apps will go away but your phone will boot .
There are 3 subsets of data associated to an app when it is installed and run on your phone.
1) /data/app/ (and /data/app-private) - actual .apk files we think of as the applications that are not system apps (i.e. installed on /system/app)
2) /data/data/ - the files produced by ALL apps (system apps and market apps) during installation that are used by the Android system to run the app
3)/data/dalvik-cache/ - app cache file and work space for ALL apps (system apps and market apps).
From root explorer (or similar) you can browse to the /data/app OR the /system/sd/app folders and you will see the same thing, both will tell you how much space you have used and have left. The way apps2sd works is by "linking" the /system/sd/app to the /data/app folder so that the Android system thinks it is accessing the /data/app it is really at /system/sd/app.
I have seen using Apps2sd cause issues with some.zip flash updates as they try to write directly to the /data/app folder which no longer "physically" exists
If you get into a bootloop issue using apps2sd boot into amon_ra recovery and try one of the follow:
1) from the Other menu option select the Fix apk uid mismatches
2) from the Wipe menu option complete a)Wipe data/factory reset b)Wipe Dalvik-cache c)Wipe SD:ext partition
Apps2sd and Cache2sd Basics
When you run the apps2sd or cache2sd script, upon reboot, it will move ALL your existing apps or cache to the sd card ext partition and ALL future apps and cache will be installed and stored on the sd card ext partition.
Running the apps2internal or cache2internal script, upon reboot, it will move ALL your existing apps or cache to the /data block of internal storage and ALL futures apps and cache will be stored in internal storage.
With HTC based ROMs it is all or nothing and you cannot move individual apps like in the CyanogenMod ROMs.
So how do I know Apps2sd is on? - You can run the GScript report_system_stats which will give you a printout of what fileblocks are used as well as a “true/false” value for Apps2sd On. You can also go to menu>Settings>Sd card and phone storage - when on space available under Available storage will go down at a VERY slow rate when new apps are installed.
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KnightRid said:
I use advanced app killer but i do not let that run all the time, I just start it when I want to manually kill apps.
It is just so weird with tweetdeck not updating in the background right, except on xtrsense. I just dont get it
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It works fine for me on xtrSENSE. Try uninstalling advanced app killer for a while and see if tweetdeck works better. Also, run the gscript set_memory_balanced or set_memory_stock. I have had Tweetdeck work just fine in xtrSENSE4.6.5 with both of those settings.
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That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
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I did not explain well, I did do that but the apps still would not move over. I thought i had to manually move the apps after the ext3 partition and such but there must be something little I am missing. I will go back through the steps again and see what happens. I still like how 2.2 and 2.3 move the apps a lot better and I wish xtrsense would be based on 2.2 or 2.3
As for tweetdeck, it DOES work right in xtrsense just not in any other rom even the stock rom.
KnightRid said:
I did not explain well, I did do that but the apps still would not move over. I thought i had to manually move the apps after the ext3 partition and such but there must be something little I am missing.
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When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
I will go back through the steps again and see what happens. I still like how 2.2 and 2.3 move the apps a lot better and I wish xtrsense would be based on 2.2 or 2.3
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To be honest, I think that this method is better. For one thing, you can back up your ext partition on your SD card; unless you use Clockwork, you cannot backup .android_secure. Also, when you connect your SD card to your computer, it dismounts the SD card from the phone, making those apps unavailable until you re-mount the SD card to the phone. Because you cannot dismount the ext3 partition (without trying really hard, that is), your apps are always available. Widgets can run from those apps. Lastly, there is no this app is internal, that app is on SD - they are either all on SD or they are not. Plus, of course, you don't have to move apps one at a time.
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When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
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Yea, it just doesnt move anything for some reason - Really isnt that big of a deal just would be nice with me being a packrat for everything so I wouldnt have to uninstall as often lol
Thanx for the help!
I am still wishing and hoping for xtrsense based on 2.2 or 2.3 though =)
doogald said:
That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
The original post in the xtrSENSE thread explains this pretty well. The relevant portions are here:
Note the parts that I bolded.
It works fine for me on xtrSENSE. Try uninstalling advanced app killer for a while and see if tweetdeck works better. Also, run the gscript set_memory_balanced or set_memory_stock. I have had Tweetdeck work just fine in xtrSENSE4.6.5 with both of those settings.
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There's an app called Link2SD which allows you to use old-school Apps2SD with the ability to only move what you want to move. Haven't tried it but reports are positive about it. Creates symlinks or some such for individual apps instead of for the whole data/app folder at once.
doogald said:
When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
To be honest, I think that this method is better. For one thing, you can back up your ext partition on your SD card; unless you use Clockwork, you cannot backup .android_secure. Also, when you connect your SD card to your computer, it dismounts the SD card from the phone, making those apps unavailable until you re-mount the SD card to the phone. Because you cannot dismount the ext3 partition (without trying really hard, that is), your apps are always available. Widgets can run from those apps. Lastly, there is no this app is internal, that app is on SD - they are either all on SD or they are not. Plus, of course, you don't have to move apps one at a time.
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There's a couple of apps on the market, Dual Mount SD (used to be called SD Share, I think) and Multi Mount SD, which now, not only allow you to mount your SD card to both your computer and your phone at the same time, they also both have the option to auto-mount your SD card to your computer when you plug it in to the USB cable, which is now what I do. Multi Mount SD had that feature first, Dual Mount SD copied it just recently.
Also, Titanium Backup (paid, don't know about the free version) will allow you to batch move as many apps as you like to and from the SD card.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
There's a couple of apps on the market, Dual Mount SD (used to be called SD Share, I think) and Multi Mount SD, which now, not only allow you to mount your SD card to both your computer and your phone at the same time, they also both have the option to auto-mount your SD card to your computer when you plug it in to the USB cable, which is now what I do. Multi Mount SD had that feature first, Dual Mount SD copied it just recently.
Also, Titanium Backup (paid, don't know about the free version) will allow you to batch move as many apps as you like to and from the SD card.
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Good to know, but I still like the "old school" apps2sd kludge more than the official kludge that Google added with Froyo. I've had more problems with apps2sd (when I tried it) with Froyo than I ever had with xtrROM before cache2cache was added to that ROM.
doogald said:
Good to know, but I still like the "old school" apps2sd kludge more than the official kludge that Google added with Froyo. I've had more problems with apps2sd (when I tried it) with Froyo than I ever had with xtrROM before cache2cache was added to that ROM.
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The absolutely only thing I don't like about, now that Link2SD is out, is that it's difficult to use the old Apps2SD under Froyo and beyond, requiring special partitioning arrangements, concerning where the particular partitions are and making it difficult to mount all the Fat32 partitions to both the phone and the computer, unless there's been progress in those areas I haven't been made aware of.
Even though there's some things which won't move to the SD card in a friendly way with Froyo's move to SD, almost everything will move if you use an app such as Titanium Backup to move them. As I said, there's still some apps it won't move but it moves almost all of them for me. I guess I wouldn't like it if I was stuck with Google implementation of it, but as long as there are third party apps to make up what it's lacking, it works great for me.
I also like that since I "only" have an 8GB SD card, that I don't have to partition it, the apps that are moved to SD will only take up as much space as they need to, no partition with space that'll never get used because I want it at least large enough to cover my worst case scenarios.
Off topic, it's unbelievable how much "crap" I get on my SD card, from all the apps I've stopped using but never deleted any respective folders for from the card. Mostly because I replaced the app with something better.
Friends,
Can any tell me why some of the apps I have downloaded cannot be moved to SD?(the option is blanked out). Is there any way to do a workaround this limitation?
Thanks.
Applications that run as services and widgets can't be moved to SD card - Froyo (Android 2.2.x) limitation. The workaround is to use app2sd (aka "a2sd") or link2sd, applications that make use of an ext-type partition on your SD card and link the system and data folders to that partition. Doing so, the apps will physically install on the SD card, even those who aren't supposed to (services and widgets I mentioned earlier). Also, apps already installed in your phone can be moved.
Feel free to search the forum and the web for more details about how they work and how to install and use them.
Thanks for quick reply. Still puzzled. Do I have to root in order to install apps2sd? If so how to get around the no root limitation to my 2.2.1? I do not wish to downgrade. Thanks again.
If you don't want to downgrade and/or install a custom ROM that has Darktremor's apps2sd (follow the link and read that post anyway, it's useful info), then you need a tool able to force-move the applications to SD card. I can't help you with any suggestion here so you have to search the Market or any other source you trust. But if that tool needs root rights you're stuck again, because 2.2.1 can't be rooted at the moment.
Hi,all
I have some questions about HTC Aria CM7.03 Stable Mod.
1. Does CM7 has full support DATA2SD?
if not,
2. How to install DATA2SD on CM7?
Check out S2E on the market. It's an app2sd alternative specifically for CM7. It won't allow you to move everything from the data partition to the SD card, but it will let you move almost all of it. (You can move all the apps but you can't move the app settings basically.) It also lets you move dalvik cache which in CM7 I believe is placed on the data partition, so this can help free up space as well.
S2E requires basically no complicated setup. Just install the app, run it to choose your settings, then reboot.
What's the differences between Apps2EXT, Apps2SD (Google) , apps2SD (CM), DATA2SD ?
Thanks for your reply!
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What's the differences between Apps2EXT, Apps2SD (Google) , apps2SD (CM), DATA2SD ?
Thanks for your reply!
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The built in versions of apps2sd (2.2+) move the apps to the fat32 partition of the sd. So no moving certain apps, especially if you want to use Widgets. You also can choose which apps to move. Apps2ext (s2e, DT) move the Alps to an ext partition and its all or nothing. But you can still use widgets etc.
I also recommend s2e for cm7 users.
Sent from my cm7 Aria.
Double post.
Hi,
I had HTC Desire before Android Froyo has been released and those days was said need to some hacks (think after root?) to move apps from internal memory to SD card. Also was said Google will add this feature to later Android versions natively.
I've searched on the forum and found some topics but still have below questions:
from which android version does it support App2SD exactly? Is there any improvement for native App2SD in later versions? (i.e gingerbread toward froyo)
Does this feature remain in all other Android versions that come later?
According to this post there are 3 kind of App2SD: Froyo A2SD, Legacy A2SD, Legacy A2SD+ ; while that post was for September 2010 is there any change in this manifest? which one is better?
I read costume ROMs need to be compatible with App2SD so we can enable it on them. Is it enough that a ROM has App2SD compatibility/feature or we need do some works and/or install apps to use App2SD on the phone?
I saw different apps and tricks to move apps like these:
Moving ANY app to SD on FroYo (or how to Enable all grayed out 'Move to SD' buttons)
[APP][Froyo][root] Move2SD Enabler - ex SetInstallLocation
[App] Link2SD
What's the comprehensive App2SD app yet? Should we install an app for this purpose ever?
As 'bakpinar' said in this post:
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Instead of moving all applications to SD card with app2sd, I want to move only selected applications.
Because I don't want to move my launcher, soft keyboard and dialer application to SD and make them unavaliable on boot if my SD card has problem or not inserted.
In order to resolve this I developed an application called Link2SD.
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It's not wise to move launcher, soft keyboard and dialer application to SD and make them unavaliable on boot if my SD card has problem or not inserted.
Now what if I am going to move all apps except these 3 mother app and don't want to select all new apps and current apps to move on SD card? any solution here?
Finally I have rooted HTC Desire HD with Android Revolution HD ROM.
Special Thanks for taking time to read this post.
Regards...
Any answer will be so appreciated and helpful
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
1. The official way to move applications to SD, as provided my the standard Android sources is part of Android 2.2 (Froyo)... I'm not sure if any modifications have been made afterwards.
2. You can now also move /data/data to SD with DarkTremor... that's about the only thing that has changed AFAIK. Better is a relative term. DarkTremor (which is the new name for the "hackish" A2SD method, to avoid confusion with Android's own support) moves more data, but it requires a special partition and is generally a LOT more fragile. However it does move more data to the SD card, leaving more internal memory available. I've tried DarkTremor and was not satisfied with the stability, but different people may come up with different results here.
3. You need a script like DarkTremor to actually do the dirty work. Prepared only means that the ROM will mount the partition, but nothing more.
4. a)/b) this still uses the native Froyo method, it just overrides the do-not-move flag. It is VERY stable.
4. c) this is a special flavor of the DarkTremor method that instead moves individual applications, but otherwise comes with the same (dis)advantages.
5. You'd still use "4. c)"... that's just a slight UI difference. The difference is that standard DarkTremor makes it impossible to let anything remain in internal memory.
Thanks soooo mauch.
I'd wish I could press thank button more than 1 time
So the most comprehensive method is DarkTremor still now? But to make some mother apps available even when there isn't SD card too, we should use Link2sd app. Did I get it true?
No problem.
Basically yes... but I've never tried Link2sd, so I can't comment on how well the application itself works...
Thanks again.
Hi, I have upgraded my x10a to 2.3 Cyanogen but I don't like the stock camera it has. I miss my old camera (in 1.6 or 2.1 version). Is it possible to have that camera installed in 2.3? I don't want to go back to 2.1 to have it.
I've found some disadvantages with this new camera:
1. Zoom buttons don't work neither on video or camera mode (I changed the settings and rebooted it but not fixed yet).
2. Shutter screen touch mode is not available.
3. Burst & self-timer options are not available in camera in 2.3
I have tried others camera app like FX, pudding, magic camera... but none seems to have all features in one.
Thanks for any suggestion
its known that camera in cyanogenmod has its faults,but why just you dont keep the 2.3.3???? and just upgrade the things you want,like facebook inside xperia 2 and the swype keyboard from 2.3.4,just my humble opinion
Having a similar trouble with JP MIUI v6. All the customization is great but losing the ability to zoom is killing me. I'm thinking of going back to 2.3.3 stock until i find a way around it. I was really sad to hear @gm007 had a new phone and was no longer working on his mod because it really rocks.
I started modifying my cell coz I wanted to move apps to my SD. my cell's memory is not that big (500 and something) so everytime it gives the error of not enough space and I had to delete some apps to release some space... do u know if 2.3.3 allows moving apps to SD? I tried app2sd when I had 2.1 but SD partition is needed. After sd partitioned the app don't recognize the partition and it said unable to move... I guess I have to sacrifice one feature for another. Thanks 4 any suggestions
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I started modifying my cell coz I wanted to move apps to my SD. my cell's memory is not that big (500 and something) so everytime it gives the error of not enough space and I had to delete some apps to release some space... do u know if 2.3.3 allows moving apps to SD? I tried app2sd when I had 2.1 but SD partition is needed. After sd partitioned the app don't recognize the partition and it said unable to move... I guess I have to sacrifice one feature for another. Thanks 4 any suggestions
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All 2.2.x up roms support native apps to SD. A stock 2.3.3 rom will move the apps to the SD Card. App2sd, link2sd and S2E all require a second partition to link to, but you can move dalvik and lib files also so you pretty much have unlimited app storage. On native android those files will be stored internally eventually filling up your internal storage.
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malego77 said:
I started modifying my cell coz I wanted to move apps to my SD. my cell's memory is not that big (500 and something) so everytime it gives the error of not enough space and I had to delete some apps to release some space... do u know if 2.3.3 allows moving apps to SD? I tried app2sd when I had 2.1 but SD partition is needed. After sd partitioned the app don't recognize the partition and it said unable to move... I guess I have to sacrifice one feature for another. Thanks 4 any suggestions
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you can move apps since 2.2,also with adb mask controller you can set the default location to install apks to sd card.
Camera camcoder lag videos
Wait for Achotjan to include the stock camera to his CM7.1 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400384