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I have owned HTC devices since the G1 n now i have the mytouch 4G rooted running Evil SD lates 2.3 port for it.
I wanna invest some money in a tablet. The MYT4G has a good size screen but sometimes it can strain your eyes when watching movies or heavy internet surfing. I want a portable tablet with the latets software and some of the newest feature. I have t mo. Here in the states. So the WiFi version of the Flyer is the only one available yet..
I have a questions. Your answers will help me deacide to buy one.
1. Does the Flyer have the ability to connect to a phones hotspot? Meaning if I tether wirelessly
2. I know there is no phone calls capabilities, but can you skype and quik?
3. Does it have a SD port?
4. And based on your experience with the device do you think it will be rootable in the future?
5. Also how does it sound? The speakers and w a headset is it real good.
Thanks I have many more questions but i think these r the most important for me. Any other things you think I should know prior to buying I would love to hear em.
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Yes to all of those, I have the 3g model, and love it the form factor of it is perfect. I've played with quite a few 10" and they aren't for me.
The only down side I can see to flyer its a touch heavy, but its no heavier than any tablets out at the moment, I just would preferred HTC to have put HTC on a wee diet.
The CPU is fast, the only slow down I've every had was first boot up whilst my apps where caching.
The speakers aren't great great, but there not bad, you could listen to music or watch a movie, saying that if I was listening to music I'd probably hook up some speakers.
But really loving the flyer.
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To answer your initial question, it really depends on what you are looking for. If you want a 7" device or the ability to write digital notes, highlight and mark on books, PDFs, and websites, or need to sketch/draw on the go, then yes, it is worth it simply because there is no other device that would allow you the features that the pen does. And if you are in the market for a 7" tablet, I would say it's the best 7" out right now.
To answer your other questions:
1.Yes, I have T-Mobile and have had no problem connecting it to my cell phone wirelessly
2. I was able to download Skype from the market; I don't use Skype, but I'm assuming it shouldn't be a problem. Could not find Qik in the market.
3. MicroSD port, yes
4. I've never rooted my devices, so I cannot say.
5.The sound is pretty clear and loud (this is based off watching videos, I haven't listen to music on here). I don't necessarily like the placement of the speakers, I thought they should have them on the both sides of the device for a more balanced stereo sound. But I'm into audio, so that's just my thought. But they are clear and can get loud when the volume is turned up to the max.
I have a few videos on my YouTube channel, CheckThisGadget, going over the HTC Flyer and doing the pen test. So that should help you in making your decision also.
Great device, as other have said.
In addition, as HTC release firmware updates I think it'll get faster as HTC optimise Sense and Honeycomb is supposed more efficient.
It lacks phone functionality..
They made a change to the market which causes my apps button to be accesible only by menu button.
A Lot of software available trough other devices ain't accessible by the flyers market.
HTC Watch sometimes works , sometimes not.
All by all .... I think a lot of work on the rom has to be done. It's not worth at THIS moment in my opinion.
To the OP, yes to the inquiries. I feel rooting will be dependent upon popularity of the device. Speakers are what you would expect from small compact drivers... A bit tinny, but okay.
IMO, the pen integration sets this device apart from other tablets. HTC did a good job adapting apps for pen usage. I used it extensively at meetings during the week, and it was impressive. If you don't have a need for the pen then, there are better options for tablets out their... Again in my opinion.
Thanks for all your replys
One of the post did make really consider what I wanted it for, n its basically to replace my phone in terms of web browsing n media player. I like to call using my phone I really don't see why I woulnt want a tablet to make a phone call. LOL but the 3g will make it real independent.
I'm not to crazy bout HTC scribe but its a very nice feature since I do go to college it would be great for note taking.
I also looked at the notion link tablet. Idk if its out or what but it looked great.
Thanks again for all the helpful replies I think I'm 95% leaning towards HTC flyer than moat devices.
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Thanks for all your replys
One of the post did make really consider what I wanted it for, n its basically to replace my phone in terms of web browsing n media player. I like to call using my phone I really don't see why I woulnt want a tablet to make a phone call. LOL but the 3g will make it real independent.
I'm not to crazy bout HTC scribe but its a very nice feature since I do go to college it would be great for note taking.
I also looked at the notion link tablet. Idk if its out or what but it looked great.
Thanks again for all the helpful replies I think I'm 95% leaning towards HTC flyer than moat devices.
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I too considerd the Notion Ink a while back but decided against it due to the tablet coming from a small shop in India and support may or may not be up to par. Plus ordering one put you on a list as units were being built.
As for browsing the web, the Flyer is great. I enjoy surfing the web more on the Flyer than my Xoom. I have not had one force close on the Flyer yet which I cannot say for the Xoom. Tabbed browsing is missing for now but Honeycomb will fix that. The speakers are pretty good, not great. You can download an equalizer from the market that will help when using headphones.
Overall, it's a nice device and suits my needs perfectly (web browsing, email, occasional games)
Yes its worth it, it is the only true multi function 7 inch tablet on the market.
I got mine two days ago in Hong Kong and I'm really loving it! It cost ~USD 700 (for the Wifi + 3G version w/stylus). I have to say it's the perfect size and the screen resolution is perfect for browsing! I would say it's worth the USD 700 that I paid for. Now I just have to get a 3G data in China...
I'd say it is worth it. I rarely use my laptop now because I enjoy using my tablet for browsing, email, etc. I did buy the Scribe pen but I actually rarely use it. Maybe if there was more functionality for it (handwriting recognition, more app support) I would use it more. Still feels decently polished although I do miss Honeycomb and being able to download those true tablet apps.
I personally think, that if HTC engineered their Flyer tablet with Stantum display it would be a Killer device, a game changer. Seriously - a resistive display, that supports 10-finger multitouch is awesome. Notes, drawing, photo editing, CAD software on small screens, and, if it was used in a smartphone - imagine using your phone in winter without getting your gloves of. Hm, dreams, dreams...
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The old sceeen question.... I presonally own a pair a gloves with special tips for using screens in winter....
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If the performance of the resistive is anything like the old WM phones, then it wouldn't be an improvement. If you want a resistive screen android tablet, there are plenty of Chinese mid-tablets out there.
10 point touch sounds interesting, but why? Some of the app gestures requiring three finger touch is confusing enough.
so im highly debating on getting a tablet this month since im going on a cross country road trip in august. i decided i didnt want to bring my netbook due to the fact that all i need in a device is to browse the internet, play movies, and play music.
so my question to you guys is if this tablet would be good for me. im so confused because i had my heart set on 4 different devices and then would change my mind the next day. those devices were a rooted nook color, samsung galaxy tab 7, asus transformer, and the htc flyer. has anyone else had these tabs would like to chime in and say why they went with the flyer instead? i read the forums and also played with demo units in best buy so i have an idea about build quality and size for all 4 units. i already have a mytouch 4g running 2.3.4 so i dont see why i should carry the flyer if its running 2.3.3. i could get the asus transformer for a cheaper price as well as honeycomb. but i read a lot of good reviews on this forum about the flyer so im getting confused. lol
i neeeddd helpppppp in choosing
So what is your longer term use case?
The Flyer is a great size, much better than a Transformer for instance for me. I found it more stable and faster than a Transformer. Android 2.3.3 (soon 2.3.4) with Sense seemed better than Honeycomb for me.
I use mine as an e-book reader, web browser and for a few games and videos. It is fantastic for these things. I personally dont even carry the pen any more, but it worked well when I tried it if that is your thing.
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So what is your longer term use case?
The Flyer is a great size, much better than a Transformer for instance for me. I found it more stable and faster than a Transformer. Android 2.3.3 (soon 2.3.4) with Sense seemed better than Honeycomb for me.
I use mine as an e-book reader, web browser and for a few games and videos. It is fantastic for these things. I personally dont even carry the pen any more, but it worked well when I tried it if that is your thing.
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well i wanted a tablet so i could take it to places and trips but also to use on the couch or bed instead of my netbook.
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well i wanted a tablet so i could take it to places and trips but also to use on the couch or bed instead of my netbook.
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so, go for Flyer then... beside of that, if you'll get a 3G version, you'll have SMS and MMS out from box, which I don't know how many other tablets does with out hacking.... I'm happy with my Flyer, and i have it from more than a month..
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well i wanted a tablet so i could take it to places and trips but also to use on the couch or bed instead of my netbook.
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thats the exact reason i wanted 1 as well. I couldnt be any happier with my choice, worked out great when i had a 2 day business trip to phx earlier this week.
heck right now im sitting out back in the hammock surfing the forums in between watching old episodes of Married With Children on Netflix
I currently own the flyer and the xoom. I find myself using the flyer more due to weight and portability. Honestly, the flyer is more responsive. It could be honeycomb problem, but it does fly when using. The op should go try it at bestbuy.
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I currently own the flyer and the xoom. I find myself using the flyer more due to weight and portability. Honestly, the flyer is more responsive. It could be honeycomb problem, but it does fly when using. The op should go try it at bestbuy.
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ive actually played with all 4 of the devices i listed minus the rooted nook color. ive only played with the stock firmware with the nook.
honestly they all seemed like nice devices. i just dont know if i should get the flyer or my other top choice which is the asus transformer. granted its heavier but it does have a bigger screen and honeycomb for a cheaper price. im just hoping other users who have had the tablets i listed could say why they chose the flyer instead of the others. im mostly concerned with usability and hardware/software performance more so than the screen size.
The Flyer specs (CPU, memory) beat the crap out of the Galaxy Tab 7" and a rooted Nook Color. So unless cost is your main concern, I'd go for more up-to-date technology.
As far as the Flyer vs. the Transformer, it comes down mostly to what form factor you like better, in other words screen size versus portability. And if you like Honeycomb, and the Transformer's keyboard accessory, then those are factors as well (although the Flyer is allegedly getting HC "soon").
As to why I bought the Flyer, I'm a big fan of HTC products. They make excellent products, and I've been waiting forever for them to release a tablet. The build quality is top notch. Some of the other tablets are okay in this regard, but usually plastic, and don't compare to the Flyer's sleek aluminum unibody.
I have a Galaxy Tab 7 inch and the Flyer 3G.
The Flyer is noticeably heavier than the 7 inch tab and does not have the phone dialler that the tab does, but having said that it is a better tablet by far.
My galaxy tab is rooted and overclocked but is no where near as capable as the Flyer whose processor just seems to munch through every task I throw at it.
Things I don't like about the Flyer are the touch screen which scratches so easily it might as well be made of butter! Appalling really for such a high end device that comes with a pen too, read the threads about scratched screens here.
If you do get one fit a screen protector.
The other disadvantage for me at the moment is no root capability although that may change soon?
The notes app with the pen is useful and coupled with evernote I use this a lot for work too.
I like HTC Sense, but at the moment I am using ADW launcher as I prefer the extra customisation options it gives, I use it on my galaxy s2 phone too.
IMHO the Flyer is the best 7 inch tab out there at the moment and I really like the portability of this form factor as it can be taken everywhere easily enough.
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If you want portability, go with a 7" tablet. But a larger 10" screen will make a better replacement for a netbook, in my opinion.
My Flyer is great portability and I really appreciate the pen integration for the workplace. Perfect for further transforming my workflow to digital. And much more discreet than pulling out the iPad for business meetings. Again pen integration is great for note taking in meetings. The portability is also great to bring guidebooks on travel. Drops into a pant pocket...
At home, my iPad stays upstairs in the bedroom as a substitute for my laptop. I can remote into my workstations in the basement and my laptop in the living room. The larger screen is more comfortable for surfing the internet, reading RSS feeds and browsing magazines. iOS got tiring though... no flash, no avi / mkv, difficult to download files... the garden walls got pretty tall.
Get an ASUS Transformer as a replacement for your laptop/netbook. Android, large screen, GPS, microSD, 802.11n... no 3G, but there's a Starbucks on every corner or an Android phone as a hotspot.
Just honest advice.
I was thinking of sending the fire back for the flyer/view, the HTC has a leg up on almost everything, however I am stuck on a few key features that the fire has, and I would like to know if there is some sort of port, or if HTC built these things in..
The fire has updates for it every few months so far, so its live, since the HTC flyer/view have been cancled, will they get updates??
The flyer/view have the "book sharing" built in, this is a nice book club feature that I like.
and the amazon silk browser has the reader view, BIG winner in my book... any way to do this on the HTC device?
I just want a handy device to read and watch some shows, prime is no big deal since they dont have what I want to see anyway, and I have Netflix anyway... I should also mention that I have a Galaxy note, so I dont "NEED" cameras or anything like that. I just need a nice responsive 7" tablet for reading/web/youtube/Netflix with a bright clear screen..
what do you guys think?
I'm not all that familiar with the other features you mentioned (book share and reader view), but as far as updates, I've found myself not needing or particularly wanting firmware updates for my Flyer. This is coming from a person who constantly changes the ROM on his HTC Desire Z phone to get better performance and features. I have never even bothered to put a custom ROM on my Flyer, the stock ROM just runs so smoothly, and has all the features I need.
I did do the upgrade from Gingerbread to Honeycomb. It added some more tablet-friendly interface layout, bit more eye candy, and much better pen support. It runs just as smoothly as GB. Really more of a personal preference, either GB or HC run rather nicely (fast and smooth).
I haven't found myself wanting anymore out of my Flyer. The performance is great, and I haven't had any significant bugs to speak of. There does seem to be a issue with GPS maintaining lock in HC (but I never use my Flyer for navigation). But of course, that isn't even an option on the Fire, anyway.
I haven't personally had a chance to compare side-by-side. But I believe the Flyer is more responsive (clock speed matters more than dual cores, for most tasks) and has a better screen than the Flyer. What you do get in the Flyer (in addition to the Prime-specific features you mentioned) is probably better support from 3rd party accessory manufacturers, as the Fire already has a healthy customer base, while the Flyer really doesn't have much to speak of.
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I was thinking of sending the fire back for the flyer/view, the HTC has a leg up on almost everything, however I am stuck on a few key features that the fire has, and I would like to know if there is some sort of port, or if HTC built these things in..
The fire has updates for it every few months so far, so its live, since the HTC flyer/view have been cancled, will they get updates??
The flyer/view have the "book sharing" built in, this is a nice book club feature that I like.
and the amazon silk browser has the reader view, BIG winner in my book... any way to do this on the HTC device?
I just want a handy device to read and watch some shows, prime is no big deal since they dont have what I want to see anyway, and I have Netflix anyway... I should also mention that I have a Galaxy note, so I dont "NEED" cameras or anything like that. I just need a nice responsive 7" tablet for reading/web/youtube/Netflix with a bright clear screen..
what do you guys think?
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The updates you're talking about with the Fire are overwhelmingly updates to Amazon's proprietary software, not the underlying version of Android. The updates the Flyer/View have received included proprietary changes, but they're accompanied with updates to the Android software. So it's difficult to compare the updates of the two since the nature of each are different. That said, the Flyer/View already has far more functionality than the Fire ever will do to its hardware and access to the Google Play Store (still sounds weird to say that instead of Android Market). No amount of updates to the Fire will ever get it to level of things the Flyer/View can do. The Flyer/View may or may not see any more official updates (no one here knows for sure), but it's already on a higher level than the Fire as it currently stands.
I assume with book sharing you're referring to the lending of Kindle books. You cannot do this with the View/Flyer with Kindle books you have purchased from Amazon. It's a feature exclusive to Kindle devices. You can install the Kindle app on the View/Flyer and have full access to all of your books, but you can't lend/borrow and you don't have access to Prime library.
By "reader view," are you implying that the webpage is reformatted to allow you to more easily read the text? If so, there are ways of doing this on the Flyer/View. It may require a different browser or app, but it can be done.
Overall, the Flyer/View is a more well-rounded device than the Fire from a hardware point of view with GPS, cameras, and optional cellular connectivity (depending on the model). The quality of the screens are both good, and both devices feel great in the hand (although I like the feel of my View better). The View is better from an Android point of view with full access to the suite of Google Apps (Gmail, Voice, Maps, Play Store, etc.), something that the Fire does not have (quite possibly the biggest software-related point in my opinion). On the other hand, if you're heavily invested in the Amazon ecosystem, and your major concern is reading (including the lending/borrowing of books and accessing the Prime library), the Fire offers more options direct from Amazon. If you're into custom ROMs, the Fire also has a much bigger developer community with a lot more support. But as far as an all-around device for "reading/web/youtube/Netflix with a bright clear screen," the Flyer/View is by far the better device in my opinion.
For me, the answer was simple - a regular Kindle e-ink reader for books (including lending/borrowing and the Prime library) since it's far easier on the eyes anyway and can be read outside, and the View for everything else (plus I can read almost all of my Kindle stuff on the View if I don't have my Kindle close by). The incredibly low prices on both devices make owning both a viable option for many that want the best of both worlds.
"I should also mention that I have a Galaxy note, so I dont "NEED" cameras or anything like that. I just need a nice responsive 7" tablet for reading/web/youtube/Netflix with a bright clear screen.."
The screen itself should be about the same between the Fire and the View.
I was getting ready to get a Fire, then considered a Nook Tablet, then a View. Here are the main advantages of the View over the Fire:
-View has physical volume up/down buttons
-View has a microphone
-View has 2 cameras.
-View has 32GB of storage and a micro-SD slot for up to 32GB more.
-View has GPS
That's off the top of my head.
If the Fire does a good job for you with books and videos, you won't really gain anything by switching to the View.
If you want a tablet that is much more capable and runs a stock Android go for the View.
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-View has 32GB of storage and a micro-SD slot for up to 32GB more.
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A major point that I overlooked in my post. As for the Flyer, it comes in both 16GB and 32GB varieties with the 16GB version being far more prevalent in my experience. Both have expandable storage as well.
"I assume with book sharing you're referring to the lending of Kindle books. You cannot do this with the View/Flyer with Kindle books you have purchased from Amazon. It's a feature exclusive to Kindle devices. You can install the Kindle app on the View/Flyer and have full access to all of your books, but you can't lend/borrow and you don't have access to Prime library."
No thats book lending.
When you're reading a book, there is a little bubble at the bottom. When you press on the bubble, it takes you into a conversation list with other people that are reading the book. Much like a book club. I think that is a neat feature.
I think the kobo at the something like this no?
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When you're reading a book, there is a little bubble at the bottom. When you press on the bubble, it takes you into a conversation list with other people that are reading the book. Much like a book club. I think that is a neat feature.
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No, there isn't an option for this in the Android Kindle app that I see.
That's not a huge deal...
So the htc screen wont be much better? I know the duo core thing is not a big deal, the hitch runs fine from the videos I've seen. Any word on ICS? One last thing.. can you take pretty good notes on the flyer? Is it like the galaxy note?
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That's not a huge deal...
So the htc screen wont be much better? I know the duo core thing is not a big deal, the hitch runs fine from the videos I've seen. Any word on ICS? One last thing.. can you take pretty good notes on the flyer? Is it like the galaxy note?
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The screen difference will be marginal at best.
No official word on ICS.
Yes, the Flyer/View use the same basic technology (albeit from different companies I believe, meaning the Note stylus won't work with the Flyer/View), so note taking is very similar if you have the Scribe. I also had a Note for awhile and found the View to be more precise in that regard.
Wow really.. I think my note is pretty accurate, so the flyer must be nice! I'm going to best buy in hopes of finding a demo.. or maybe sprint..
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Wow really.. I think my note is pretty accurate, so the flyer must be nice! I'm going to best buy in hopes of finding a demo.. or maybe sprint..
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They've been discontinued at both Best Buy and Sprint I believe, so it might be difficult to track down any display models in a store, especially that have a Scribe sitting there to use with it.
I've had other people contend that the Note is more precise, but I found the View to be when I had both devices. So chances are, that really means that they're both pretty similar when it comes to accuracy.
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No, there isn't an option for this in the Android Kindle app that I see.
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It may not be in the Kindle app, but it is there in the stock HTC Reader app which I understand is powered by Kobo. I have not used it because all of my ebooks are from non-drm epub sources so while the HTC Reader displays those books perfectly, it does not allow me to use the share option.
Anyway to read the kindle books on the kobo app? Reason I ask is that kobo has a nicer UI.
I did find a demo at the sprint store, I liked it and found the screen to he a bit more vivid, I wish I would have had the time to really check out, unfortunately we were on a way to a movie, so I had maybe 30seconds with it. Can anyone cement on the speakers, some of you have had the fire so maybe you can give me an idea of the sound quality of the htc vs the fire? I think I'm gonna buy the HTC, I just need a little push lol..
All of you have been a great help.
Just to throw my thoughts in:
I am a college student and I have an internship in an office. I bought the flyer at the beginning of this semester to take notes and other various things at my job. I have used it for a few months now, and I can say that I don't even carry a notebook any more. It has also fully replaced my netbook. I have read several books for class on it, and it has worked well as far as that goes. The speakers are pretty good quality, I find them acceptable for Skype calls and YouTube videos.
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the flyer/view has basically one of the greatest displays for reading for its highest pixel density of android tablets (ipad 3 has a much higher resolution tho), and great color production for things other than reading. i love my htc flyer, and i would recommend it, the reading experience is still fantastic even if it lacks fire features, because htc adds their own (such as book sharing, as you mentioned)!
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I'm in the same boat, torn between fire and flyer.
For me the flyer was an extra $40, so is $40 worth:
bluetooth
2 cameras
512meg extra ram
8gb extra storage
microSD card reader
a microphone...
Normally I say, yes, of course it is, however of those, the only one that actually matters to me... might be the microSD card reader and extra storage, seeing as the fire only ships with 8GB.
Why are those other features not important to me? Because wherever I have my tablet to use, I will 100% of that time have my iPhone 4 in my pocket which has 2 cameras, 32GB storage, a microphone, etc. If I want to take a picture, i'll certainly use my phone before my tablet, same with skip or voice notes, or voip for that matter. If I had a stupid phone, of course I go with the flyer, but with an iPhone, maybe I stick with the kindle fire...
Another consideration is rom updates, yes flyer is popular, however each rom needs to support all that extra hardware, and often one piece either uses an older/supported version of android, or one piece just doesn't work. For example bluetooth for voip, or the hardware buttons of the flyer. With the Kindle it doesn't have much extra hardware, so not much else to support, therefore the rom updates that come out are more "clean" in my view.
I'm forcing myself to use both for a few days this week and make up my mind. The stylus could turn the tide to the flyer though...
We'll see...
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I'm in the same boat, torn between fire and flyer.
For me the flyer was an extra $40, so is $40 worth:
bluetooth
2 cameras
512meg extra ram
8gb extra storage
microSD card reader
a microphone...
Normally I say, yes, of course it is, however of those, the only one that actually matters to me... might be the microSD card reader and extra storage, seeing as the fire only ships with 8GB.
Why are those other features not important to me? Because wherever I have my tablet to use, I will 100% of that time have my iPhone 4 in my pocket which has 2 cameras, 32GB storage, a microphone, etc. If I want to take a picture, i'll certainly use my phone before my tablet, same with skip or voice notes, or voip for that matter. If I had a stupid phone, of course I go with the flyer, but with an iPhone, maybe I stick with the kindle fire...
Another consideration is rom updates, yes flyer is popular, however each rom needs to support all that extra hardware, and often one piece either uses an older/supported version of android, or one piece just doesn't work. For example bluetooth for voip, or the hardware buttons of the flyer. With the Kindle it doesn't have much extra hardware, so not much else to support, therefore the rom updates that come out are more "clean" in my view.
I'm forcing myself to use both for a few days this week and make up my mind. The stylus could turn the tide to the flyer though...
We'll see...
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You are 100% in my boat! Lol the flyer will cost me about $50 more, and you and I have the same train of thought. I have my galaxy note for EVERYTHING, and with me, my gnote is almost as big as the tablets of topic! Lol
I found the speed to be more or less on par with these two tablets. And the htc reader app is a joke, the fire has a better "reading" atmosphere with the ability to change font and word spacing, and the silk browser reader view is a BIG home run.. I still can't shake the feeling I should just get the flyer.. lol
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Anyway to read the kindle books on the kobo app? Reason I ask is that kobo has a nicer UI.
I did find a demo at the sprint store, I liked it and found the screen to he a bit more vivid, I wish I would have had the time to really check out, unfortunately we were on a way to a movie, so I had maybe 30seconds with it. Can anyone cement on the speakers, some of you have had the fire so maybe you can give me an idea of the sound quality of the htc vs the fire? I think I'm gonna buy the HTC, I just need a little push lol..
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The Kindle books are DRM-protected, so unless you want to find a way around that (something we can't discuss on these forums), you have to use the Kindle app for Kindle books.
The Flyer/View have pretty darn good speakers for the size of the tablet. I can't think of a time when I wasn't more than satisfied with them.
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And the htc reader app is a joke, the fire has a better "reading" atmosphere with the ability to change font and word spacing, and the silk browser reader view is a BIG home run.. I still can't shake the feeling I should just get the flyer.. lol
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You don't have to use the HTC Reader app (although you can adjust the size of the text in the app). There are several different e-reader apps in the Play store that let you adjust font and spacing (and I know the Kindle app will at least let you adjust the font). But the biggest advantage to using the HTC Reader is that it has full integration with the Scribe pen. On Honeycomb, you can use the Scribe with any app, but you'll only be able to use some of the advanced functions of the pen with apps that are optimized for it.
You're definitely right about the Fire having a better "reading atmosphere" though. That's its primary purpose (along with watching video), so Amazon has put a lot of significant thought and design into it. The Flyer/View is very much a multi-purpose device, with the focus spread throughout the device instead of on just a couple areas like the Fire. That's why for people who want a device that is primarily going to be a reading/video device with most of the content coming from Amazon, the Fire is definitely a great option. But for those who want more than that, the Flyer/View offers many more options.
I just won a like new htc flyer with case and scrib pen for $212 shipped..
Dude, demonoid has all the books u need, the flyer reader app supports the pens and its unbeatable bybany other tablet, om taking notes all the tome, signing documents etc
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Hello everyone. So currently I am considering getting the HTC Flyer. I can get one for around $160 USD (used but in good condition). Is it worth it? I definitely cannot afford new tablets but a used one with decent specs would do. I am about to enter college in the fall and was wondering if this tablet would be useful for this purpose, specifically because of the pen. Does the pen seem more like a gimmick or is it really useful (like with school and professional related tasks). Also, if I do get the HTC Flyer, can you all share what are great apps to make this device extra handy (apps which utilize the pen, notes and documents).
Recommended accessories would also be nice! Affordable ones that is. The pen is already sooooo expensive (IMHO) and I WANT it!!!
Is it advisable to update to HC or leave it on Android 2.3? I like the new pen features of HC but it seems HC is buggy (from what I read on this forum) and that isn't favorable when I may be taking notes in college with this thing.
I just want to get a device that would help me all round. Some entertainment here but useful in the classroom. I am on a tight budget (still have to get a laptop so please consider that)
I really appreciate everyone's time. I look forward to hearing from you all.
I purchased the flyer specifically for the pen usage and am very satisfied with it. I upgraded to honeycomb and if your main use is for the pen I suggest that you do too. I like the ability to annotate books in either epub or PDF. I like the feature in the stock notes app where you can record and your written notes are time stamped and synced with the recording and ultimately with evernote. however I don't particularly like how writing the notes are implemented (it is constantly wasting time autosaving). if you are just taking notes I would suggest using apps such as quill or papyrus (I myself prefer papyrus - it is very smooth and uses both buttons on the pen). what else I have been doing is using the voice recording app along with apps such as papyrus then exporting them together into the notes app which then seamlessly syncs with evernote (yes I know it seems tedious but I only do this if i really need the lecture recorded). the only thing that I really desire is a fully functional handwriting recognition app. I downloaded a couple of apps (thanks to Gumby) such as notes mobile. they work fairly well however my handwriting is so poor it isn't worth it. my family does much better with it so perhaps you can too.
so all in all if the flyer is in good shape for $160 I would highly recommend it. if i think of anything else to say I will let you know.
The pen functionality is great for annotations on existing documents but it's not easy to take notes, like meeting minutes.
Anyway 160bucks is a nice price if you want a 7" tablet the flyer is great, but if you want to spend just 160bucks to replace a paper book to take notes in class that's going to disappoint you
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The pen functionality is great for annotations on existing documents but it's not easy to take notes, like meeting minutes.
Anyway 160bucks is a nice price if you want a 7" tablet the flyer is great, but if you want to spend just 160bucks to replace a paper book to take notes in class that's going to disappoint you
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just wondering which app do you use to take notes? I can see the difficulty if you are using the stock notes app (due to the constant autosaving) but apps such as papyrus are very smooth and I find note taking to be very easy and productive.
So far the stock tool and MS notes, I'll try papyrus and let you know
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@ericvv. Thanks for your input. I don't plan on using it to replace "book, paper and pencil". I just want something that can help with making supplementary notes. I really doubt *anything* can replace the pen and pad for serious notes.
Just asking...I remember reading that only ebooks bought from Kobo can be annotated through the supplied app. But...is there anyway to side load e-pub and pdf books and annotate them the same way? Like through alternative apps. The Kobo way would be kind of expensive.
Thanks everyone for you time.
I am using the app LectureNotes daily at my work to scribble down quick notes from meetings etc. It is actually working quite well and it has nearly eliminated my use of pen and paper, but only nearly .
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I am using the app LectureNotes daily at my work to scribble down quick notes from meetings etc. It is actually working quite well and it has nearly eliminated my use of pen and paper, but only nearly .
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And the developer is legend, I mailed him a couple of times with usability issues and within 3 or 4 days the updated app was on the marketplace. There is a free version to try, give it a spin.
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@ericvv. Thanks for your input. I don't plan on using it to replace "book, paper and pencil". I just want something that can help with making supplementary notes. I really doubt *anything* can replace the pen and pad for serious notes.
Just asking...I remember reading that only ebooks bought from Kobo can be annotated through the supplied app. But...is there anyway to side load e-pub and pdf books and annotate them the same way? Like through alternative apps. The Kobo way would be kind of expensive.
Thanks everyone for you time.
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I believe that the standard HTC reader app should let you annotate ebooks. I actually sideloaded an epub on my Flyer and noted that I was able to highlight and take notes on. However, it should be noted that I'm running LeeDroid for Honeycomb, so I have no idea how everything works when the unit is stock.
I initially purchased the Flyer because it was cheap and slightly more portable than my HP Touchpad (running CM9) for travel purposes (i occasionally need to run Citrix to access my company's desktop). I also preferred it over the Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet due to the existence of the cameras (I skype with my grandmother in Asia). Plus, the battery life on this thing is phenomenal. The fact that I got it for about $170 just made it all the sweeter. The only downside thus far, in my opinion, is the lack of ICS. I know a lot of people have commented that it is a single core machine. Since I don't really play any games on the tablet, this is a non-issue for me.
I thought that the pen was a total gimmick and unnecessary. For most of my uses, that is true. However, I figured out that my office can send me PDF documents, which I can sign using the pen, save the signed PDF, and send it back to my office. This does not happen that often, but it's a pretty neat feature to have.
Thanks everyone for the input. I made the plunge! I know this is off topic but...the Flyer I bought doesn't include a USB cable, only the charger. Would the standard USB cable work for this for PC connection? I really do hope so. Accessories for this thing already aren't cheap!
Yes normal usb cable is fine, for accessories look on eBay is not bad eve of for genuine HTC parts.
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That's where I normally buy my accessories. I looked for the OEM cable which is a bit pricey IMHO. I will use my old USB cable! IS it slower or anything to transfer data with this cable though?
No I didn't isn't, the port is only different from mechanical point of view to prevent that you put other devices on the flyer OEM charger and damage them.... The amount of amps is just dangerous for over devices..
For example when my wife uses her ipad charger to charge her iphone the phone gets really hot and probably would be damaged if kept on to long.
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Need some advice help me out! .... HTC Flyer 3G or HTC Jetstream 32GB, 4G?
(if same price)
Thanx
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Need some advice help me out! .... HTC Flyer 3G or HTC Jetstream 32GB, 4G?
(if same price)
Thanx
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Absolutely depends on your application. I have experience with both - I own a Jetstream and a very close friend of mine owns a Flyer. What is your application. I shall suggest accordingly in view of that.
I'm debating the very same thing. I had a tablet pc (HP tmz2) and used it for taking notes like crazy.
At work I go through a couple of those little 5x8" pads of paper a month. I would like to replace those. I also take a lot of other notes, business books, church, etc. I thought the Flyer might be good since its about the 5x8 pad size ( a little smaller) but maybe its too small.
I will use this mostly for notes. I have a 9.8" Android tablet (Window N90... chinese but works great) and an epic 4g so I really don't need another plain android tablet. I really just need something to write with. I don't really want to spend 500 bucks on a Galaxy note 10.1... if I was going to go that far, I could get some sort of slate pc with full windows (probably for $600-700). I can get the Jetstream for 250ish probably, the lenovo thinkpad tablet for 250ish or the flyer for 150ish...
Based on your usage with the 2 sizes and the fact that I really just want to take notes (not really super in depth college-classroom style notes... just rarely do I want to take these kind of notes), what is your suggestion?
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I'm debating the very same thing. I had a tablet pc (HP tmz2) and used it for taking notes like crazy.
At work I go through a couple of those little 5x8" pads of paper a month. I would like to replace those. I also take a lot of other notes, business books, church, etc. I thought the Flyer might be good since its about the 5x8 pad size ( a little smaller) but maybe its too small.
I will use this mostly for notes. I have a 9.8" Android tablet (Window N90... chinese but works great) and an epic 4g so I really don't need another plain android tablet. I really just need something to write with. I don't really want to spend 500 bucks on a Galaxy note 10.1... if I was going to go that far, I could get some sort of slate pc with full windows (probably for $600-700). I can get the Jetstream for 250ish probably, the lenovo thinkpad tablet for 250ish or the flyer for 150ish...
Based on your usage with the 2 sizes and the fact that I really just want to take notes (not really super in depth college-classroom style notes... just rarely do I want to take these kind of notes), what is your suggestion?
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Ok as you are looking at something to take notes mainly, then I would definitely suggest either of these HTC devices or Samsung's note devices. Difference between them-Samsung is more acceptable and more post-purchase support. I have used the Note and I definitely like the HTC Flyer or Jetstream better. Note 10.1 I have no experience so can't say much about it.
Between the Flyer and Jetstream, the basic difference is in the size. For a fully functional pen experience on the Flyer, definitely need to upgrade to Honeycomb. The gingerbread pen experience is honestly bad. The experience with the pen on Flyer honeycomb and Jetstream is the same. So no complaints there. Only question that then comes to mind is what about future? If you amongst those who need to have updates on and off and it itches to have something new, then Flyer for the simple fact that the community is larger and there are already updates available. So you will be getting.your hands on some newer flavors of android for sure. The Jetstream userbase is smaller and.not much development happening so for.now, it is more or less what you buy is what you will be sticking with. But, if you want a device which is going to have better hardware specs, the Jetstream wins hands down.
Seeing as you have a 9.8 tab and are happy with it, would be more sensible to go for the Flyer as you already have a larger tab for the other functions. If however you are looking at something to replace your old tab and give you your notes function, then I would suggest the Jetstream.
I am definitely very happy with my Jetstream and I know my friend with the flyer is also.very happy with his flyer. So I can assure you this that no.matter what others say, once you buy either of the tablets, I know they will work well and will serve your purpose equally well. If portability is an.issue, then flyer better (as in the case of my friend) but if it isn't, I would go for the Jetstream.
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I also take a lot of other notes, business books, church, etc. I thought the Flyer might be good since its about the 5x8 pad size ( a little smaller) but maybe its too small.
... I really just need something to write with. I don't really want to spend 500 bucks on a Galaxy note 10.1... if I was going to go that far, I could get some sort of slate pc with full windows (probably for $600-700). I can get the Jetstream for 250ish probably...
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I have two tablets--a JetStream and a Samsung Slate Series 7 (SSS7 - a tablet PC). I use my SSS7 for taking notes at conferences, church, etc.
I have tried a few different note taking ap's on the JetStream that will capture hand written notes using the HTC stylus (i.e., storing the hand written text) -- I have yet to find anything that compares to using OneNote on the SSS7. OneNote is superior to any of the note taking applications on the android, at least the ones that I have tried, which recognize the HTC stylus.
To be fair, I need to give the native note taking ap on the JetStream another chance to see how it does (i.e., I tried it early on but not recently), but when I have used recommended programs such as Quill and PhatPad, they do not compare very well to the SSS7 & OneNote. Quill is not as smooth and PhatPad was just lagey.
I am not sure if the slowness is due to pen technology on the HTC being inferior to that of the SSS7 (Wacom) or if the issue is with Android 3.x OS -- I have heard that Icecream (4.x) would be faster. The tips on the Wacom stylus that can be switched out, to provide either the feel of a pencil or a pen.
Additionally, the built in hand recognition s/w on W7 and W8 is many times better than what I have been able to find on the Android (e.g., WritePad) -- W7 / W8, it can learn on it's own based on your corrections, or you can enter 50 sentences and it learns your hand writing -- I can nearly scribble something on the SSS7, and it gets it correct most of the time. The experience on the JetStream is usually frustrating.