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hi guys,
unfortunately there is no up2date thread in these forums bout this topic and i am also not sure whether there are news..
so, any1 knows when some kind of software will be released to play normal avi, divx, xvid, mpeg and so on?
Strange that we've still not had anything along these lines coded up yet.
I'm sure it's just a matter of time, hopefully when the official kernels get released.
Maybe then coding will be more 'open' than it currently is on the Hero platform.
http://coreplayer.com/content/view/28/69/
And we all know what CorePlayer did for the WinMo platform right?
I'm surprised its taking so long to create divx codecs for android...
on my nokia n80 i was able to play divx files, and it didtn have the half of cpu power compared to hero. dont know what these fuc*ers doing there!
DivX is a mpeg-4 encoder, and the hero can play back mpeg-4. You probably are using some older version of divx that did not produce standards-compliant video files or you put your mpeg-4 in a container that the video player on the hero can't read.
Volker1 said:
DivX is a mpeg-4 encoder, and the hero can play back mpeg-4. You probably are using some older version of divx that did not produce standards-compliant video files or you put your mpeg-4 in a container that the video player on the hero can't read.
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did you try that? because, i have the newest divx encoder on my pc (7.1 or so) and at ouput i had a avi file, and the hero wasnt able to play it
felikz said:
did you try that? because, i have the newest divx encoder on my pc (7.1 or so) and at ouput i had a avi file, and the hero wasnt able to play it
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The container is AVI - Android does not support AVI containers. That being said, I did encode a file using Handbrake using MPEG4 (XviD) in an MP4 container and my Hero would only play the audio not the video, whereas it worked fine as H264 in MP4.
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YES this is a serious issue...why hasnt any gud media codec software arrived in the market yet??
karan323 said:
YES this is a serious issue...why hasnt any gud media codec software arrived in the market yet??
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coreplayer have removed their announcement of upcoming app for iphone and android. so maybe they're releasing in the next days somethin nice, hope so, because at the moment the situation really sucks
At least they are working on it
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2885&hilit=android
Question, why do you want divx capability when it can do h.264?
coz u dont have to convert those videos then!!
just put them in and play them directly on ur HERO!
All mobile devices, play video better when its encoded to the screens resolution, I do hope you are doing this. iTunes does it for you but I use Handbrake. when scaling the vid down, change it to h.264 and your on
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If you still have divx files then you need to get better vids, HD MKV files are the only way to fly.
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All mobile devices, play video better when its encoded to the screens resolution, I do hope you are doing this. iTunes does it for you but I use Handbrake. when scaling the vid down, change it to h.264 and your on
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If you still have divx files then you need to get better vids, HD MKV files are the only way to fly.
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and where do you find 32+GB microSDHC memory cards for those vids...
What I mean is, you take a 4GB 720p hd mkv and shrink it to 480x320 and then put that on the hero, works fine.
I just picked up my gtablet yesterday and have been spending my time installing tnt lite and installing several apps. I bought it because when I go on trips I wanted something that could browse the net, and play videos. I installed RockPlayer and put a 720p mkv file onto the machine, however playback is very choppy and its almost like the device cannot handle it. I know that several people have gotten 1080p to work good, and I am wondering if there is a setting that needs to be enabled to make 720p work better? I did some digging and saw that someone said to edit a line in the build.prop file (set the media.stagefright.enable from true to false), but I cannot edit my build.prop file. And I am not entirely sure that this will fix the problem. Are 720p videos playable on this machine?
What profile did you render the movies in? Try changing the MKV extension to AVI... Sometimes some renderers treat containers differently even though they are using the same codecs.
just tried to rename the extension from .mkv to .avi and still same choppiness and eventually the videos stops playing all together. I am not sure what rendering is, but the file is encoded AAC 2.0 H264
h264 is not the issue, it's what profile its encoded in
I have this in my FAQ section (in my sig). h264 is supported, but the Tegra 2 cannot handle h264 encoded in high profile. It can handle main profile.
This is confusing to people. So, what I would recommend is to download the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and it will show you how your videos are encoded.
As for container support, I think MP4 plays a little better than MKV, but Rockplayer (in the Market) seems to be able to handle MKV and using hardware acceleration. Again, as long as it's h264 main profile.
This is not just an issue with the GTab - all the Tegra 2 devices will have this issue as its a limitation of the chipset, or so I've read. Vega, Folio, even the mysterious Adam will probably have this same limitation.
Reference on h264 and main / high profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Yeah, that's the tricky part. I haven't been able to figure that out yet, although granted I haven't put much time into it. I think these "profiles" depend on how you encode and which tool you use.
If you try the Tron Legacy trailers, they are 1080p but main profile. A good example of how nice videos can look on it, when encoded the right way.
I have to play around more with something like ffmpeg to see if I can pin this down. Another reason for transcoding is to keep the sizes down, since we have the 4GB FAT32 file size limitation to deal with. Yuk.
I've incoded a 1080p high profile to main. sound was in and out then tryed a few things and lost sound. Video played great anyways.
I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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Could be a lower screen resolution that full 720p (not all 720p's are alike).
I also read today that Tegra 2 720p should work in high profile, but 1080p definitely does not. But, Android itself might be limiting even 720p, so it's a crap shoot.
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
Ok, makes sense. I do the same thing using upnplay and my server. Thought you were wanting them on the tablet.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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A two hour 720p movie runs ~4GB, so it's close to the limit in FAT32. And you could easily go over the limit when encoding, which would require you to break the file up. Annoying.
The problem here is that none of the vendors want to agree on a replacement file system for portable devices (wow, no surprise there). MS wants exFAT, the open source community would prefer EXT3/4, and I assume Apple would prefer HFS+.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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First rule of Usenet.....
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First rule of Usenet.....
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Okay I'm doing the Madagascar penguin "you didn't see anything gesture" now. LOL.
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japhule said:
It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
G Tab supports H.264 1080p main and high profiles
Detailed specs on what Audio and Video formats G Tablet supports are listed in the manual downloadable from the Viewsonic web site.
But in a few words - it does support up to 1080p, both baseline, high, and main profiles for H.264 with certain limitations for each, and MPEG4 simple profile.
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
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My entire system is redundant. I have my windows 7 share as well as my htpc/nas running tversity, orb and audiogalaxy (music only). Everything is shared in every way. First I try just streaming the file through Windows 7 dlna, which generally works fine. I too use Upnplay. If something doesn't work (very rare) I move to looking for it through Tversity which attempts to detect the dlna device and scale it so it works. I've never needed to use Orb on the GTab since I really got everything up and running, Orb is for when I actually am on the road and want to watch sth. from my home network. PlayOn may actually work as well - it has a free mode which allows you to use it to share files on the local network using VLC codecs.
Video Playback
I'd like to add to this conversation with, I hope, clarification of how to get higher definition video playback working on the GTab.
I've tried four video files that are 720P or 1080P. None of them works well in Movies, DoubleTwist, Rockplayer, or VitalPlayer.
G Tablet, TnT 4.21, OE kernel. Market fix. Various apps.
Videos all playing from /SDCARD
Here is some more information about those videos, using Mediainfo:
Touring Car race:
720P MPEG-4 50FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 3 ref frames)
AAC Stereo
Big Buck Bunny:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/
1080P OpenDML AVI 12Mbps 24FPS MPEG-4 Visual ([email protected])
AC-3 audio
Audi R8:
720P AVC Matroska 800Kbps 29.970FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 2 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Donington LG demo:
1080P BDAV M2TS 35.5Mbps 29.970fps AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC /3 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Are all of these simply too much for me to get away with playing on the GTab? I've played most, if not all of these, using a Broadcom 70012 Crystal HD decoder card on a Dell Mini 9 (Atom N270) with few problems.
Thanks for the help.
My Atrix doesn't seem to be able to play any of my .mkv video files. Is anyone else having this problem? My captivate worked fine with the exact same movies. I have also tried downloading other video players such as rockplayer, mVideoPlayer and doubletwist but I am getting the same "sorry, this video cannot be played" or "file cannot be displayed or played" message.
i have also tried the copying the videos to both my external sd card and my internal memory, no luck.
The captivate seemed to support a lot of video formats with out resizing ....what does the atrix support
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Yeah, Im having problems with that too. All my videos are either too small or can't play. Anyone know the ins and outs of the attrix media capabilities?
Ok, I just tried an .mp4 file with no success as well. this can't possible be correct. I tried 5 different media players, including the stock one.
mp4s work for me, but not mkvs with the same settings. Tegra 2 only supports baseline H264.
The Atrix only supports (3GPP) .3gp and MPEG-4) .mp4 video formats.
Codec support is for H.263, H.264 AVC, MPEG-4 SP and VP8
So far I haven't gotten the phone to play any of its said supported videos. I too had the captivate and am now very disappointed in the Atrix codec support. Maybe we were spoiled with the captivate?
Only AVI's play. Nothing else. Hopefully this will be remedied by Moto before anyone else.
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So far I haven't gotten the phone to play any of its said supported videos. I too had the captivate and am now very disappointed in the Atrix codec support. Maybe we were spoiled with the captivate?
Only AVI's play. Nothing else. Hopefully this will be remedied by Moto before anyone else.
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That's because mostly any MPeg4 or H.264 video you try to play is high-profile. The Tegra 2 apparently only supports the baseline codec.
so are there any downloads out there that would supply the necessary codecs, or maybe another player (i'v already tried 5). i thought i got away from having to convert all of my videos when i got rid of my iphone
What pisses me off is I cannot even use DLNA to stream video to my phone since NOTHING is compatible.
I'm able to stream from my DVR and my Windows Media systems to any PC or DLNA equipped device in my house except for my Atrix.
The list of things that I like about this phone are slowly being overpowered by the list of crap that I should have to be dealing with.
This is supposed to be the "most powerful smartphone" on the market.
My 3 year old 3GS does more with less hacking.
And yeah... I threw up a little in my mouth when I said that as I hate having to hack my phone to get basic functionality.
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What pisses me off is I cannot even use DLNA to stream video to my phone since NOTHING is compatible.
I'm able to stream from my DVR and my Windows Media systems to any PC or DLNA equipped device in my house except for my Atrix.
The list of things that I like about this phone are slowly being overpowered by the list of crap that I should have to be dealing with.
This is supposed to be the "most powerful smartphone" on the market.
My 3 year old 3GS does more with less hacking.
And yeah... I threw up a little in my mouth when I said that as I hate having to hack my phone to get basic functionality.
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Try Subsonic server/app combo. Works great for me.
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Try Subsonic server/app combo. Works great for me.
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Doesn't work with DirecTV DVR's.
I have the whole home service so I can play any movie on any TV or PC in my house.
Any DLNA equipped device works too... except for the Atrix of course.
I was able to play a 700+ MB avi file.
I was able to play tron in 264 mkv fine here.
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I was able to play tron in 264 mkv fine here.
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can you let me know how large the file was?
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I was able to play a 700+ MB avi file.
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I was able to play tron in 264 mkv fine here.
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It would be nice if you could post what method you used and the steps you took to get your Atrix to play so that we too could enjoy videos.
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So far I haven't gotten the phone to play any of its said supported videos. I too had the captivate and am now very disappointed in the Atrix codec support. Maybe we were spoiled with the captivate?
Only AVI's play. Nothing else. Hopefully this will be remedied by Moto before anyone else.
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Yeah right. Motorola will fix it.
I bought a Tegra 2 device that can't play my 720p mkv movies. Perfect.
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mp4s work for me, but not mkvs with the same settings. Tegra 2 only supports baseline H264.
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mkv is a container, h264 is a codec
almost all phones can decode h264, xvid, divx, x264, etc, BUT in MP4 container.
just remux your files without recompress, its very quickly, just a few seconds using some program like YAMB or staxrip's just mux option.
if I have an avi file compressed with xvid my x10 can not play it with hardware decoders, but if I mux this avi in an mp4 file my x10 can play it very smooth, and remux its just take a half minute.
http://yamb.unite-video.com/
btw, if you want test, put any HD youtube video (MP4 high profile, wich is playable on atrix) and remux into MKV without recompress, I mean just mux, and try to play on atrix.
Chinese tablets and some branded phones can recognize MKV container, but it doesn't make a difference because make a playable video for your mobile it will take just a few seconds
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mkv is a container, h264 is a codec
almost all phones can decode h264, xvid, divx, x264, etc, BUT in MP4 container.
just remux your files without recompress, its very quickly, just a few seconds using some program like YAMB or staxrip's just mux option.
if I have an avi file compressed with xvid my x10 can not play it with hardware decoders, but if I mux this avi in an mp4 file my x10 can play it very smooth, and remux its just take a half minute.
http://yamb.unite-video.com/
btw, if you want test, put any HD youtube video (MP4 high profile, wich is playable on atrix) and remux into MKV without recompress, I mean just mux, and try to play on atrix.
Chinese tablets and some branded phones can recognize MKV container, but it doesn't make a difference because make a playable video for your mobile it will take just a few seconds
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I'd like to see some proof that high profile plays on the atrix currently. Main profile with tweaking plays choppy, but high profile in my experience does not work at all. Also as a clarification, x264 is a fully functional h264 encoder, and can be used to create bluray quality video
There are a few video containers supported by the player shipped with the atrix.
*.avi
*.mp4
*.3gp
Having said those, the codecs that can be inside an AVI file are as follows:
Video: xvid/divx (h.263)... owait noone cares about the other ones. At any res 1080p and lower resized to MOD16
Audio: mp3... again noone cares about the other ones
Inside the MP4 you can have the following:
Video: xvid/divx/h263/h264 (in BASELINE or HIGHLY MODIFIED MAIN profiles only) at any res 1080p and lower resized to MOD16
Audio: AAC (LC or HC; avoid multichannel as it creates an annoying echo) /AMR
*.3gp is the format that a lot of current handheld devices can capture in. They have their own specific codecs depending on the device, but video that I captured with my old sony ericsson s710a plays flawlessly on all my newer devices.
As for MKV... I wish it supported it. I started using QQplayer for MKV with very low bitrate xvid/mp3 combos for subtitles and they play OK, just not well. Settings I have found that work well with QQplayer and xvid for MKV is any flavor of 480p mod16 resized @~1500kb/s, and mp3 of an ABR of 112 downsampled to 44.1khz. h264 inside mkv though... not happening.
Care to explian where's the "mux" option in the program you linked?
i've tried a few players off of market that said they play .mkv files but when i try to play them it'll say 'unsupported format', won't display video, or just won't play period.
does anyone know of one that actually does work with the Thunderbolt?
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It's probably a problem with the codecs/scheme used for those files themselves. MKV is just a container and you could have one of a plurality of unsupported codecs or encoding schemes in that container. I know this doesn't help you a great deal...I'm just saying just b/c a player says it "plays mkv files" doesn't mean it plays every mkv file.
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It's probably a problem with the codecs/scheme used for those files themselves. MKV is just a container and you could have one of a plurality of unsupported codecs or encoding schemes in that container. I know this doesn't help you a great deal...I'm just saying just b/c a player says it "plays mkv files" doesn't mean it plays every mkv file.
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MKV could be a number of video encodings. Read up on it if you're interested in knowing more.
I wouldn't try playing content above 800x480 resolution either unless you want to kill your battery really quick and see it run sluggish.
try diceplayer v1.5.3
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial
Diceplayer use HW video decoder in Qualcomm chipset.
it can play 720p MKV+DTS.
Anyone have any luck getting the View or Flyer to play 720p mkv files? Using mx video player, the files will play for a few seconds, then the player freezes. Shows that it is using hardware decoding in the few seconds before the freeze. If I quickly switch it to SW fast decoding, it will play but the CPU can't keep up so the playback is jerky.
The same files played fine on my OG Epic with HW decoding (obviously I know hummingbird <> snapdragon) and my ET4G. They also stream just fine to my PS3, so I'm pretty sure it's not the files. Anyone else have any ideas?
My workaround right now is just to handbrake the files to 1024x600 mp4 files (which play just fine with the hardware decoder, just adds an extra step that takes awhile even with my 3.2ghz C2Q).
Have you tried a different video player? I hear MoboPlayer is quite good.
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Have you tried a different video player? I hear MoboPlayer is quite good.
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I should have specified that I tried mobo and rockvideo player. The others either don't work at all (rock) or didn't handle DTS audio (mobo).
I think you need to compress the files in Handbrake (try keeping it at 1280x720). I wonder if its just the file size that's the problem. It makes sense more powerful phones/devices can handle them. Perhaps the tablet just can't handle it. I haven't yet received my View, but I think the View just can't handle the videos you are using.
I'm using mx player and can play 720p x264 encoded videos in mkv containers smoothly.