Alright, there's a lot of talk about how to improve battery, and which ROMS will do that. After trying different ROMS, Kernels, and mods, I have finally found what *I* think is brilliant.
For the ROM, flash vipers 1.3 located here.
Once the ROM is flashed, go to the terminal app, type "su" , followed by "vc". That will get you to vipers control script(s). Get familiar with it. Now go install launcherpro from the market, or adw.launcher, whatever launcher you prefer. Once that launcher is *set as default* go back to terminal. Once you type su and vc, press 3. Then continue to press 1-4, I kept the lockscreen . That will free up *tons* of RAM. Beforehand I had around ~200, now I am consistently at ~350.
With that and the oc daemon, you phone should run smooth and pretty good battery. Now were going to flash a differnet kernel. Some will disagree with me, saying that flashing a SBC kernel is dangerous. Yes, it was on the Evo 4g. But how it works on the 3D is different from the 4g. *For some odd reason, the SBC thread seems to have gone missing. I'm guessing it was moved to another section. So, here is the direct download link to the best copy at the moment, here. If you don't want to flash a SBC kernel, go ahead and stick with Stock, OC does not do to much with a monster phone like this.
With that combo, I have had my phone on for 4.5 Hours with reddit, web, texting, and 2 calls. The battery? 91%.
This can obviously be improved by the community. What do you guys think we should add?
Biofall has also made a thread with some more simple tricks, that hopefully you have in use already. You can check out his thread here.
SBC Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197877
Nice layout and thanks for sharing, but just to let you know no everyone gets the same result, but I'll try it out if myns rom doesn't come our soon lol
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Might be a good reason for me to root. Thanks
I just followed your guide, and now after I rebooted my phone thinks it is charging when its not.
EDIT: Nevermind flashed the new beta, back to test 5 all is good
adam: Myn say he's making a 3vo rom? I rocked warm2.2 on my OG forever...now my wife has it =-).
I've wanted to root just because im a mod junkie but hadnt seen much to really kick me in the boot to get going yet. I have pretty solid battery life and performance on stock, but I do miss my Ti BU and SetCPU (more less just to have fun on benchmarks).
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adam: Myn say he's making a 3vo rom? I rocked warm2.2 on my OG forever...now my wife has it =-).
I've wanted to root just because im a mod junkie but hadnt seen much to really kick me in the boot to get going yet. I have pretty solid battery life and performance on stock, but I do miss my Ti BU and SetCPU (more less just to have fun on benchmarks).
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how long is your battery life on stock? what is the rate of your usage?
Skyphos said:
adam: Myn say he's making a 3vo rom? I rocked warm2.2 on my OG forever...now my wife has it =-).
I've wanted to root just because im a mod junkie but hadnt seen much to really kick me in the boot to get going yet. I have pretty solid battery life and performance on stock, but I do miss my Ti BU and SetCPU (more less just to have fun on benchmarks).
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Yup he is, some people is trying to make money for incubus (myns right hand) to get him an evo, but he said warm twopointthree is on the way
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moosh3 said:
Alright, there's a lot of talk about how to improve battery, and which ROMS will do that. After trying different ROMS, Kernels, and mods, I have finally found what *I* think is brilliant.
For the ROM, flash vipers 1.3 located here.
Once the ROM is flashed, go to the terminal app, type "su" , followed by "vc". That will get you to vipers control script(s). Get familiar with it. Now go install launcherpro from the market, or adw.launcher, whatever launcher you prefer. Once that launcher is *set as default* go back to terminal. Once you type su and vc, press 3. Then continue to press 1-4, I kept the lockscreen . That will free up *tons* of RAM. Beforehand I had around ~200, now I am consistently at ~350.
With that and the oc daemon, you phone should run smooth and pretty good battery. Now were going to flash a differnet kernel. Some will disagree with me, saying that flashing a SBC kernel is dangerous. Yes, it was on the Evo 4g. But how it works on the 3D is different from the 4g. *For some odd reason, the SBC thread seems to have gone missing. I'm guessing it was moved to another section. So, here is the direct download link to the best copy at the moment, here. If you don't want to flash a SBC kernel, go ahead and stick with Stock, OC does not do to much with a monster phone like this.
With that combo, I have had my phone on for 4.5 Hours with reddit, web, texting, and 2 calls. The battery? 91%.
This can obviously be improved by the community. What do you guys think we should add?
Biofall has also made a thread with some more simple tricks, that hopefully you have in use already. You can check out his thread here.
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Sceenshot or it didn't happen
E3D
yeti2242 said:
I just followed your guide, and now after I rebooted my phone thinks it is charging when its not.
EDIT: Nevermind flashed the new beta, back to test 5 all is good
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Ya, the current beta messes the notification bar up, that's why I linked to the good one And I'll post a screenshot for today, tonight.
give this a try
Has anyone tried Zeam Launcher on the EVO 3D? I keep trying it when I try other roms, but no matter what it is extremely laggy on the app screen.
moosh3 said:
Alright, there's a lot of talk about how to improve battery, and which ROMS will do that. After trying different ROMS, Kernels, and mods, I have finally found what *I* think is brilliant.
For the ROM, flash vipers 1.3 located here.
Once the ROM is flashed, go to the terminal app, type "su" , followed by "vc". That will get you to vipers control script(s). Get familiar with it. Now go install launcherpro from the market, or adw.launcher, whatever launcher you prefer. Once that launcher is *set as default* go back to terminal. Once you type su and vc, press 3. Then continue to press 1-4, I kept the lockscreen . That will free up *tons* of RAM. Beforehand I had around ~200, now I am consistently at ~350.
With that and the oc daemon, you phone should run smooth and pretty good battery. Now were going to flash a differnet kernel. Some will disagree with me, saying that flashing a SBC kernel is dangerous. Yes, it was on the Evo 4g. But how it works on the 3D is different from the 4g. *For some odd reason, the SBC thread seems to have gone missing. I'm guessing it was moved to another section. So, here is the direct download link to the best copy at the moment, here. If you don't want to flash a SBC kernel, go ahead and stick with Stock, OC does not do to much with a monster phone like this.
With that combo, I have had my phone on for 4.5 Hours with reddit, web, texting, and 2 calls. The battery? 91%.
This can obviously be improved by the community. What do you guys think we should add?
Biofall has also made a thread with some more simple tricks, that hopefully you have in use already. You can check out his thread here.
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So you you used reddit, texed, web and 2 calls in 10 minutes time and the rest standby? I can understand.
Related
Wich ROM do you prefer and why? I
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I use BAMF, no real reason to be honest. I like it.
My advice to you though, as I have said many times in the INC forums, is to flash both and decide which one YOU like best. You can take opinions and suggestions from others, but with it being YOUR phone, you are going to want it to have the look and feel you want. That's the best choice IMO
I am running BAMF 1.4 Remix, its my daily driver, rock solid. I have not tried perfect storm yet.
I was running Perfect Storm 1.3 and liked it a lot--very fast, stable, and with Utkanos's kernel acceptable battery life. I switched to BAMF 1.5 (debloated) with Imoseyon's battery saver kernel and that's been pretty successful as well--maybe not quite as quick as Perfect Storm, but Das BAMF includes more of the fixes in the new ROM than Perfect Storm 1.4 does (at least, that's what I inferred from reading the respective threads) so I was willing to make the tradeoff. We're very fortunate to have so many talented folks working on ROMs for this phone!
I'm running perfect storm,I like the look and feel of it so far very stable,wouldn't mind trying on bamf but I'm new and gotta do some reading to find out how to get it without having to go through all the setup yet again...lol. anyone wanna pm me with how to do that would greatly apreacheted,I have Cw pro and titanium pro.
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I use BAMF, no real reason to be honest. I like it.
My advice to you though, as I have said many times in the INC forums, is to flash both and decide which one YOU like best. You can take opinions and suggestions from others, but with it being YOUR phone, you are going to want it to have the look and feel you want. That's the best choice IMO
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True but I do not have time to read all the threads. Wish I did so I like to get a feel on why folks like one or the other because I may have missed something. I do plan on trying both. I am having such good luck with bamf 1.5 that I was hoping to see a compelling reason to switch.. Thanks again
One thing I really liked about Perfect Storm was the ability to remap the 'Personalize' button to pretty much any app you have on your phone. BAMF Remix has this feature, but I haven't figured out a way to incorporate it into debloated BAMF.
kenmills78 said:
I am having such good luck with bamf 1.5 that I was hoping to see a compelling reason to switch..
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My advice, and this is what I do when I am already happy with one ROM - make a nandroid backup, load the new one, and play with it for like 30 minutes. I know most people say "give it time", but if you already have a ROM you like, you'll know within that 30 minutes, maybe even less, if you'll want to switch or not. Only when you are completely new to the ROMs would I say try both for an extended time.
Personally, I use BAMF 1.5 - I did switch over to Perfect storm, played with it for 30 minutes, and didn't catch anything that made me want/need to switch. Loaded up my nandroid and was just fine.
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My advice, and this is what I do when I am already happy with one ROM - make a nandroid backup, load the new one, and play with it for like 30 minutes. I know most people say "give it time", but if you already have a ROM you like, you'll know within that 30 minutes, maybe even less, if you'll want to switch or not. Only when you are completely new to the ROMs would I say try both for an extended time.
Personally, I use BAMF 1.5 - I did switch over to Perfect storm, played with it for 30 minutes, and didn't catch anything that made me want/need to switch. Loaded up my nandroid and was just fine.
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I did the same thing and I am now back on bamf 1.5
Storm, because it feels faster
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Hello everyone! I just got my 16gb wifi model a few days ago. I'm from Canada. I think it's a very nice device, I love it, but have a few questions. First I noticed that the device seems to be a little laggy sometimes, specifically when you switch apps, or when in the browser or using the keyboard? Is there any way to make this better?
I have taken the habit of using the task manager to close unused apps, is this a good thing to do? I have the feeling that mine came with stuff that I don't really need/want. For exemple, There is a ^ in the bottom bar that I always tend to open by accident, this bar open another row of icon. Also there is a screenshot icon on the bar. Is this something to do with the TouchWiz? How much clog/more memory is the touch wiz using? Maybe without it I could gain some speed. I have removed all the widgets to make things better and I use a simple wallpaper.
I'm not into flashing for now, I'm not mentally ready, is there anything else I can do to improve speed and responsiveness?
Also, I have a blackberry and I am used to receive instant notifications for facebook. Is there an equivalent app for facebook for the tab?
Thanks.
First things first, Id root it. Its VERY easy. If you have issues with the Mass storage device not being seen my the PC, make sure usb debugging is off. Also, after you root it throw on Pershoots TW UX version of his kernel.
Then download set cpu and OC it to 1400. And if you want to put on a rom, put on task650s rom.
after that all lag is pretty much gone.
mroneeyedboh said:
First things first, Id root it. Its VERY easy. If you have issues with the Mass storage device not being seen my the PC, make sure usb debugging is off. Also, after you root it throw on Pershoots TW UX version of his kernel.
Then download set cpu and OC it to 1400. And if you want to put on a rom, put on task650s rom.
after that all lag is pretty much gone.
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Do you have a link to the best rooting instructions? Also a link to OC?
Sure most guys will tell you to search, but thats not me. I'll help you out bro, np
1) how to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239185
That is a video with a written tutorial too. That should do ya
2) OC'ing kernel
Pershoot is the one that made it. It also have a nice VooDoo integrated sound matrix ( or whatever ) and it sounds crazy good. To take advantage of it, flash his kernel and then market VooDoo and download that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138167
If you have a touchwiz / WIFI rom/tablet.. Then you need to download the kernel off of his site that has TW / UX in the title of the link.
mroneeyedboh said:
First things first, Id root it. Its VERY easy. If you have issues with the Mass storage device not being seen my the PC, make sure usb debugging is off. Also, after you root it throw on Pershoots TW UX version of his kernel.
Then download set cpu and OC it to 1400. And if you want to put on a rom, put on task650s rom.
after that all lag is pretty much gone.
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I could not agree more with this, I just got done running benchmarks with just Task650's ROM, loading up the newest pershoot kernel now. Even with just the ROM lag is pretty much gone
Yeah Mann benchmarks don't mean much in terms of Android. But it's a good placebo for some
Sent from a miui powered HTC Evo.
Well, i admit that it is tempting to install a rom. I dont understand tho why it is necessary to clear up the slowness problem. Ppl at samsung need to work more to optimise their sh.t
mickey78 said:
Well, i admit that it is tempting to install a rom. I dont understand tho why it is necessary to clear up the slowness problem. Ppl at samsung need to work more to optimise their sh.t
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Im not sure if I know what you mean... what do you mean on you dont understand why its is necessart to clear up the slowness problem? It is because there is soo much bloat and things misplaced. Its kinda crazy. but after you run an optimized ROM and the kernel at 1.4ghz.. its night a day..
Hie guys. I am new to SGT 10.1 and to this forum.
[Nice little introducing video btw].
I just reply to this thread not to open a new one and start asking questions over there
From what you guys discussed above, after rooting the device and OC it, the lags will go away. How much does OC it to 1.4 affect the battery life and heat? I searched and most people posted it doesn't heat up the tablet much. I guess it is the same to you guys?
If I have rooted my tab and OC it to 1.4. Let says something gone wrong with the hardware of my tab and I would like to exchange it, am I able to un-root it and de-clock to 1.0 before I return?
Cheers
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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or1onz said:
From what you guys discussed above, after rooting the device and OC it, the lags will go away. How much does OC it to 1.4 affect the battery life and heat? I searched and most people posted it doesn't heat up the tablet much. I guess it is the same to you guys?
If I have rooted my tab and OC it to 1.4. Let says something gone wrong with the hardware of my tab and I would like to exchange it, am I able to un-root it and de-clock to 1.0 before I return?
Cheers
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The overclock with help with lags. But not all of the lags are based off of speed issues. Some are code related. But in the end, yes it will speed up nicely, and be more fluid.
The heat and battery isn't really an issue. But being that all of the dev'ing going on is all new. Its a wait and see thing. But in all respects, it should be just fine.
And I haven't looked into unrooting, but I'm almost 100% positive that it can be done.
Sent from a miui powered HTC Evo.
I actually have a question about OCing. I flashed the Starburst ROM on my tab, but no custom kernal. Is it still OK to download set CPU and crank it to 1.4ghz? (I've OCed computers 'til they cried, but never phones or tablets )
HTC thunderbolt
I thought I would stick with sense roms for a while, but I've had it a month, and I'm already using launchers to change the look and feel.
Anyways, I wanna try an aosp rom like cm7 or thunderbread.
Right now I'm running gingeritis 3d (sense), and I used the kernel that was recommended.
My question is, and I know this is a lot about preference but, what is the best aosp rom out there right now that's stable and fast? And what kernel should I use? battery life isn't a huge deal for me since I'm near a plug most of the day, but I'd like at least 6-7 hrs from it.
if anyone has any info and suggestions, I'd appreciate it
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Deviant6 said:
HTC thunderbolt
I thought I would stick with sense roms for a while, but I've had it a month, and I'm already using launchers to change the look and feel.
Anyways, I wanna try an aosp rom like cm7 or thunderbread.
Right now I'm running gingeritis 3d (sense), and I used the kernel that was recommended.
My question is, and I know this is a lot about preference but, what is the best aosp rom out there right now that's stable and fast? And what kernel should I use? battery life isn't a huge deal for me since I'm near a plug most of the day, but I'd like at least 6-7 hrs from it.
if anyone has any info and suggestions, I'd appreciate it
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There is no best. there is all personal preference. The asop/asop type roms I can think of off the top of my head is OMFGB, MIUI, and CM7. All being at a stable point in development. So look at them and figure out which one you would like best
I'll just make this simple.
I'm looking for a
Kernel that works with cm 7.
It needs to be fast stable, and everything working.
What have you used?
Which ones did you have a good experience with?
I'm wanting to flash today and could use a prod in the right direction for my first aosp experience.
Thanks
(and if you have links, that'd be awesome)
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Deviant6 said:
I'll just make this simple.
I'm looking for a
Kernel that works with cm 7.
It needs to be fast stable, and everything working.
What have you used?
Which ones did you have a good experience with?
I'm wanting to flash today and could use a prod in the right direction for my first aosp experience.
Thanks
(and if you have links, that'd be awesome)
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I'm on taptalk right now so searching is a real pain. Look up imoseyn kernels. He has sense and asop roms. Go to the development section. Plenty of info there for you. Whatever you do do not rush into flashing something just because you want to. Read, research, read some more, then make sure you understand what your doing before you do, so if you have an issue you can possibly save yourself lots of headache.
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Stratejaket said:
I'm on taptalk right now so searching is a real pain. Look up imoseyn kernels. He has sense and asop roms. Go to the development section. Plenty of info there for you. Whatever you do do not rush into flashing something just because you want to. Read, research, read some more, then make sure you understand what your doing before you do, so if you have an issue you can possibly save yourself lots of headache.
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I've done a ton of reading, researching and everything. I'm not a tech noob at all. I actually own a pc repair business. and I've successfully flashed phones before.
Like I said, I did the first flash a day or so after getting it (to Gingeritis 3D) and everything went fine. (after getting the correct radio that is)
Anyways, I choose CM7 and downloaded Zoom kernel, which is Here
The CM7 file i downloaded is: update-cm-7.1.1-Thunderbolt-signed.zip
Which I thought was the correct one.
I also downloaded a MR2.5 radio. Although I'm not 100% its the BEST one, but I know it works with CM7. and I did get a signal with it.
but even after wiping everything, and doing it over and over, I can't get past the white htc splash screen.
Do you have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Solution Found!!
I had been doing everything right, but it seems Clockwork Mod Recovery was corrupt or something.
What I did:
I restored back to my last backup.
Opened Rom Manager
Click "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" (the top one, even if it says your up to date)
after it flashes CWM successfully, either download and flash a rom from Rom Manager, or do it manually as I did.
And after the flash, I rebooted, and it went right to the CM7 boot animation, and loaded perfectly.
If you were like me and searched google, and found lots of posts with the same issue, but no solutions. So I hope this helps others.
Thanks for all the help guys!
(goes to show sometimes you just gotta try anything and everything)
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I had been doing everything right, but it seems Clockwork Mod Recovery was corrupt or something.
What I did:
I restored back to my last backup.
Opened Rom Manager
Click "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" (the top one, even if it says your up to date)
after it flashes CWM successfully, either download and flash a rom from Rom Manager, or do it manually as I did.
And after the flash, I rebooted, and it went right to the CM7 boot animation, and loaded perfectly.
If you were like me and searched google, and found lots of posts with the same issue, but no solutions. So I hope this helps others.
Thanks for all the help guys!
(goes to show sometimes you just gotta try anything and everything)
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I hope you didn't take what I wrote as negative to your skills. I didn't mean to make it sound like you didn't know what you were doing lol just threw ideas out there hoped one might spark a thought.
Glad you got it up and ruining. Already nice when someone posts how they fixed something, in case any of us end up with the same issue gives us more troubleshooting ideas.
Sent from my Synergy driven Thunderbolt...
i've used many sense & aosp roms myself and will say that aside from sticking with an actual cyanogen rom directly, the latest "SHIFTAO5P" that's been re-worked by dhacker, 2.8 is really nice & stable(and the location/gps actually works).
I agree with you on the sense though, I could never stand the actual sense launcher and always just used Launcher Pro.
Also if you use aosp you will run into issues with the flash player. I know when I was on CM7 it happened. I tried out MUIU and I had problems with flash and I had to do that flash player trick (look it up) to get it to work. I never tried OMFGB but I have tried CM7 and MIUI and they're both sweet. My favorite one is Liquid Smooth. but its up to you. They're all great
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Sooo.. I'm not a fan of the crazy supermod kernels that add "tweaks" that improve only synthetic scores but kill your battery and are actually worse performing in real-world apps and cause other issues.
But damn, HTC has a HORRIBLE Bluetooth bitrate on A2DP. It's not the phone because one time I had a random ROM that had it sounding perfect, but whatever crap HTC has in there stock is awful.
Can anyone recommend one that doesn't do all the crazy stuff like SD/RAM "tweaks" but maybe only has things like dimmed capacatative buttons and the updated BT A2DP bitrate?
Or if I have to do this myself, what's a good way to get started?
Come on, no one?
Answer: Do it your self. Brah
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southern87 said:
Answer: Do it your self. Brah
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He wasn't asking someone to developed a kernel, he was simply asking if one exists. Way to be a ****. I seriously have a hard time dealing with all the bull**** in the 3D forums.
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Saneless One said:
Can anyone recommend one that doesn't do all the crazy stuff like SD/RAM "tweaks" but maybe only has things like dimmed capacatative buttons and the updated BT A2DP bitrate?
Or if I have to do this myself, what's a good way to get started?
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I compiled a stock kernel with only dim leds and notification light blinking changed. If you tell me exactly what to change for the BT A2DP bitrate (or point to a kernel that has that change as a commit on github, etc), I'll do it for you.
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He wasn't asking someone to developed a kernel, he was simply asking if one exists. Way to be a ****. I seriously have a hard time dealing with all the bull**** in the 3D forums.
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Read the last sentence. Kthxbye lol
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ANYWAY.
Thanks mwalt. I'm actually using your kernel now with Clean/Senseless ROMs. I prefer no crazy crap in there, so I appreciate changing a few things that make sense and aren't experimental theoretical improvements.
My request is real though
Here's a big long thread about it, actually, to show I'm not crazy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-708685.html
Now.. to answer your question on where or what to change, after reading all that, I'm not sure I have an answer for you.
I know that the ROM in this thread works just fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316039
But of course, being CM7 based, it's still missing many things I need. Oddly though, unlike CM7 alpha, the BT audio worked just fine.
Saneless One said:
I know that the ROM in this thread works just fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316039
But of course, being CM7 based, it's still missing many things I need. Oddly though, unlike CM7 alpha, the BT audio worked just fine.
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Do you happen to know what kernel empiire's rom is running? He doesn't say or give a source that I saw by quickly looking. I don't know enough to dig through the code myself and find it.
all my kernels have new / faster BT drivers...
GSM AOSP - pending
GSM SENSE - DONE
CDMA SENSE - DONE
CDMA AOSP = done
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318005
chad.goodman knows what he is doing!
I use the stockAnthraX kernel and it has just the right amount of tweaks that I need. Actually, I don't even think of them as tweaks...just making the phone do what it was designed to do.
Flash it...you won't regret it!
Just noticed mwalt had posted in here....his kernels were going to be my other suggestion! Both of them do quality work.
mwalt: The kernel for empires says it's from toastcfh, evo 3d #25 dirty. Something like that. I'm going from memory since I only flashed it to see if Bluetooth sounded good. And it sure did sound good. I have a few songs that are always an issue with HTCs settings and they were perfect.
I'll try out Chad's kernel to see if it's a kernel or other settings issue. If it's kernel, I'll have to research, hopefully with some help, where the setting truly is.
I've yet to check out how chad's performs in the car, but I have zero interest in overclocking anything. FSB, CPU, GPU, anything. This phone doesn't get the best battery life in general, and I have zero issues with 1.2ghz, so I see no reason to go higher. I use apps instead of just benchmarking, and those all work just great. In fact, some ROMS even set things back with tweaks that look good on paper (benchmarks) but actually break things like SD card read/write latency.
I personally recommend chad.goodman's kernals. I have flashed different kernals and different roms, testing each rom with each kernal. His always gave a better benchmark score, while remaining the most stable. I know that's not what your looking for however. Since that "phase" that I was going through flashing 4-6 roms a day, I have since stuck with flashing a new rom every few days to try them out. But I always, ONLY, flash his stock kernal, because it seems to me to make the phone run exactly as it should. I don't overclock or tweak it in any way, or use any apps to do so.
So basically I would say flash his stock kernal, don't worry about overclocking it or doing anything to change it, and try it out for a few days. I think you'll be pretty happy with the outcome.
Edit: I play games for 1-3 hours a day on my phone, text constantly and use the phone for everything it has, and I get 18-26 hours per charge. The rom I had stuck with mostly(Or always go back to) is CleanROM DE with his kernal, which now includes it.
I'd prefer not to OC, but the kernel has it set for 1.5 by default.
CleanROM DE isn't bad, but some of the tweaks cause real-world issues despite possible score gains. For instance, the SD Card speed fix actually slows down read/write rates in any real-world usages and even makes songs skip. The latency is horrible with that script in particular.
I have played multiple albums without running into any problems myself. All of my music is 320 CBR, and I use the stock music player. As far as score gains, I haven't ran a benchmark on this rom. I've gotten to where I just want a good stable rom, regardless of the benchmark scores, and of course one that works for me. I'm not saying it's your phone or SD Card, but honestly I haven't ran into any issues with the read or writing of my card. I'm also using the SD Card that came with the phone which I believe is class 4. I'm getting out of where I "know what I'm talking about" but it could also be the process you follow when flashing. I feel like I go through alot of un-needed steps while flashing roms/kernals. I flash a combination of different Wiping tools that format and optimize(Synergy Wipe for example) the partitions in EXT4. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it, but I can honestly say I haven't ran into any latency issues and especially no song skipping, even with the phone under heavy load(Music+Games/3DGames+Sometimes an open web tab or two and texting).
It could all just come down to each phone is different, even though they have the same hardware. Just like with PCs.
As far as OCing, I may not be correct(I'm probably not), but from what I read on chad.goodmans post along with others, the processor is approved/supported to run up to 1.512 by QUALCOMM, although it seems HTC says 1.188.
I'm not an expert on this at all, and if this isn't correct let me know. I'm just talking from experience and from my understandings of reading around on the forums.
Trust me, I try multiple things multiple times so I can single out the source of issues
Without SD Card tweak init.d scripts everything is fine. Introduce them into the mix, songs, album art, and the phone in general runs slow as it waits to build up the buffer before reading/writing. Now, benchmarks don't show this because during that buffer time there's no reading/writing so it's not measuring it. Once it actually writes it's slightly faster, but you can clearly see that the test is stalling out and it takes a LOT longer to complete.
As for chad's OC, I realize he's just doing what the chip is rated at, I'm not worried that he's got things set to some bad level, I just also realize that the chip is underclocked probably to save battery, and I'm fine with that speed so I'll take the power savings.
And finally.. the Anthrax kernel has the same A2DP issues as stock, so the bitpool setting is either not changed in it or the setting is elsewhere. I need to flash the other kernel I had from empire's rom to see if that alone can fix it.
Post your results once you finish testing it out, I'd like to know what they are haha!
Like I said I'm not into pushing my phone anymore, just looking for the best overall experience as possible with complete stability. However once in a great while I decide to flash some stuff and tweak it around to see how far my phone will go before freaking out ha.
Ok.. after another round of testing.
Looks like it's NOT a kernel thing after all. If I use Chad's anthrax kernel in a Sense ROM it doesn't change the quality of the BT A2DP streaming. But in an AOSP ROM, where the audio sounds good, using Chad's AOSP kernel still sounds good.
So it looks like there's some file/setting somewhere else that determines the bitrate or the BT drivers. Guess this isn't going to be as easy as I hoped.
Well at least you got that figured out haha. I'm still very interested in your findings so keep us updated! ^.^
I've always found that AOSP run better anyways, but I like Sense too much to get rid of it haha! However I'm looking forward to the bugs in the XPLOD ROM to be worked out, I flashed that one when it was released a few days ago and it seems pretty sick.
I would love to have an AOSP rom, but at this point the phone is missing functionality. I'll deal with Sense, so long as I can play music over BT and not cringe.
BT is important for the car because I can use steering controls
So my mom got a 3VO recently, and I threw CM7 on there for her.
However, it's too buggy, and having never really messed with any other stable roms, I come to you XDA.
Only requirements are
Stable
Good battery life.
Works with Sprint TV
Has a customizable notification drawer.
Works with ADW
Shouldn't be too hard right?
Thanks!
P.S. I also have a 3VO if that matters
P.P.S. Mods feel free to move if this is in the wrong section.
Try chogardjr3d.
I'd go with cleanrom
Something stock feeling would be best I believe till she gets use to it and/or bored of it.
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I don't think your mom would get "bored" with a ROM. That's a sentiment expressed by flash junkies like us...
She seems like a cool mom though if she likes flashing (had to go there)
I like the Infected Eternity ROM but I'm probably going to go back to Viper ROM when they finish their super secret project. Those are the only two I would recommend for your mom. Don't put her on any AOSP ROM until 4G Wimax is working. Unless she is ok with slow(er) speeds.
MOM ROM?
MOMROM?
MOMrom?
I offer no suggestions. Scratch that, Ill also vote for Clean. I dont use it personally but it would be good for a MOM ROM.
Why not just leave it stock?(rhetorical)
Clean ROM
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Miui ex: my mom uses!
Miui is the rom I'd suggest sure she will loose her 4G,3D but she will gain an easy to use phone and lots of hidden goods in it too don't be afraid to give her a good old 5 minute lesson one she picks up Miui she will thank you trust me!
my "MOM" has sense on her 3VO when she first got it after a week she kind of got lost in it I said why don't you use what I use? she said its probably way to complicated lol then I told her ok go to your Wifi settings, she paused for 15 secs trying to remember how to do that she did turn it off after 1 minute of searching of course I didn't help her lol I was just trying to prove a simple point...
Yes I am aware certain SENSE/AOSP roms have the same features!
I could sell anyone my phone with MIUI on it give me 15 minutes of there time and they will instantly want there phone like it.
put MIUI on your mom's phone and set swype as default yes you will have to download the beta install it and then make sure you go to swype settings and adjust for accuracy and not speed our phones so damn fast anyways it will only make it more accurate and I promise you between the messaging app that's in MIUI and the general layout of the phone she will love you for it!
in short my mother uses MIUI and she wasn't confortable with her phone for a week on sense after 1 day of her bickering on MIUI she was already thanking me on how much she loves her phone now....
both synergy and viper are pretty good
265ada said:
Miui is the rom I'd suggest sure she will loose her 4G,3D but she will gain an easy to use phone and lots of hidden goods in it too don't be afraid to give her a good old 5 minute lesson one she picks up Miui she will thank you trust me!
my "MOM" has sense on her 3VO when she first got it after a week she kind of got lost in it I said why don't you use what I use? she said its probably way to complicated lol then I told her ok go to your Wifi settings, she paused for 15 secs trying to remember how to do that she did turn it off after 1 minute of searching of course I didn't help her lol I was just trying to prove a simple point...
Yes I am aware certain SENSE/AOSP roms have the same features!
I could sell anyone my phone with MIUI on it give me 15 minutes of there time and they will instantly want there phone like it.
put MIUI on your mom's phone and set swype as default yes you will have to download the beta install it and then make sure you go to swype settings and adjust for accuracy and not speed our phones so damn fast anyways it will only make it more accurate and I promise you between the messaging app that's in MIUI and the general layout of the phone she will love you for it!
in short my mother uses MIUI and she wasn't confortable with her phone for a week on sense after 1 day of her bickering on MIUI she was already thanking me on how much she loves her phone now....
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Your keyboard missing the 'period' or 'comma' keys?
Sheesh.
265ada said:
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How about stay on topic and perhaps "SPAM" post that actually aid the OP.
IDK/C if you was talking about me or not but why not contribute, who gives a crap if punctuality isn't correct or spelling this isn't school or english class.
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That's too bad.
IMHO, I'd keep her at stock unrooted.
It may become tedious for her to manually update when OTA's are released.
Easier for you to support to.
Techronico said:
I like the Infected Eternity ROM but I'm probably going to go back to Viper ROM when they finish their super secret project.
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What's this secret project you speak of?
milfROM 4.0.3 imho.
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Cleanrom or Meanrom are the best.
Lol Go FRESH ROM stockish clean good battery life
myn said:
IMHO, I'd keep her at stock unrooted.
It may become tedious for her to manually update when OTA's are released.
Easier for you to support to.
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Great answer! My wife and 2 of my kids are rooted with custom roms (wish I'd never done it) and every time there's an update or issue I have to fix it. Keep her stock
Btw. Thanks to the ****ing mod that won't let me comment in my favorite thread. Good looking out!
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Personally I would leave her phone on stock or use a ROM that won't change much outside of improving performance. ViperRom is pretty good, doesn't remove 3D functionality.
As you can see there are lots of differing opinions, which is why we have so many ROMs here in the first place. I will however do you a favor and list your 3 best options and reasons why, in no particular order. Take whichever option sounds like it will work best for your mom:
MIUI
This one is probably your best bet if you dont care about losing your 4G and 3D. It gives the best battery life and smoothness of any ROM and is a great match for ADW, Launcher Pro, or Go Launcher EX. It is easy to use, has little to no bugs, and you wont have to worry about OTA updates because it will already be perfect and you wont see OTA notifications anyway so it wont bug your mom that there may or may not be an update. Pair this rom with AnthraX A06 kernel for best results
Stock rooted odex w/ latest update OTA
This is because it will have everything in it that the phone is supposed to have. It will be the simplest for her to deal with issues if she has to take it in to a Sprint store or call customer service or whatever. OTAs shouldnt be an issue but if you accept an OTA you will probably lose root, but that wont matter much anyway since you are trying to keep it stock. Can use ADW if you want or keep it regular Sense since thats what this phone is designed to have. This will not allow you to change notification bar things.
Eternity R81 Sense 3.0
Because it is like stock, but a few useless things are removed, performance is improved, and more stable. R81 has been reported to be nearly flawless with the exception of some GPS issues for some users only. It uses the latest OTA and stock kernel and works great. Very smooth. This has the ability to change quick-settings, the personalize button, and other notification bar things just like you want.
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As you can see there are lots of differing opinions, which is why we have so many ROMs here in the first place. I will however do you a favor and list your 3 best options and reasons why, in no particular order. Take whichever option sounds like it will work best for your mom:
MIUI
This one is probably your best bet if you dont care about losing your 4G and 3D. It gives the best battery life and smoothness of any ROM and is a great match for ADW, Launcher Pro, or Go Launcher EX. It is easy to use, has little to no bugs, and you wont have to worry about OTA updates because it will already be perfect and you wont see OTA notifications anyway so it wont bug your mom that there may or may not be an update. Pair this rom with AnthraX A06 kernel for best results
Stock rooted odex w/ latest update OTA
This is because it will have everything in it that the phone is supposed to have. It will be the simplest for her to deal with issues if she has to take it in to a Sprint store or call customer service or whatever. OTAs shouldnt be an issue but if you accept an OTA you will probably lose root, but that wont matter much anyway since you are trying to keep it stock. Can use ADW if you want or keep it regular Sense since thats what this phone is designed to have. This will not allow you to change notification bar things.
Eternity R81 Sense 3.0
Because it is like stock, but a few useless things are removed, performance is improved, and more stable. R81 has been reported to be nearly flawless with the exception of some GPS issues for some users only. It uses the latest OTA and stock kernel and works great. Very smooth. This has the ability to change quick-settings, the personalize button, and other notification bar things just like you want.
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Great breakdown. I've been debating which ROM to flash and this is very helpful.