Ive search high and low on xda developers to find a rom with a aosp bluetooth stack and mhl cable support. My plan is to use the Sixaxis Controller app with the mhl cable but so far ive only been able to find roms that do only one of those functions.
Also is there anyway to install a new bluetooth stack and the Original XXKG firmwares.
Would appreciate any help.
Device: Samsung Galaxy S2, Running MIUI.
That's something many gamers wish... but after a few months without any luck I think the only way is to buy a specific gamepad like phonejoy, etc. as long as CM (and MIUI consequently) doesn't support mhl yet. And maybe never...
The cool thing could be something like you are talking: someone making a stock rom but with aosp bluetooth drivers instead of samsung ones
Edit: I write from the complete ignorance, and don't know if it's easy to do or even possible. Please excuse me if i'm saying something stupid
I too am wondering
If one could just copy the AOSP bluetooth over the stock roms we would have the best of both worlds
The bluetooth stack in Cyanogenmod 7 works with sixaxis. I used my ps3 controller to play my emulated games.
Although I do perfer non-aosp, as the kernel/rom selection is better and the touchwiz apps are better (IMO) . I cant live without fm radio.
If any devs could add find a way to get the aosp bluetooth stack on a non aosp rom, we would all be very grateful.
I want to bump/1 up this thread
I am using lite'ning rom 6.1 and I really love this rom, but at the same time I want to be able to use my ps3 controller so thumbs up for anyone who can do this, even information on how to or why it's not currently done would be nice, my brother knows a bit about programming if we knew where to look maybe we could try to do it ourselves. I really want to see this done. I know it's possible somehow!
Hey everyone, if you haven't tried onlive on the 3d, download the app and grab a free lego batman game.
Anyway, my question pertains to the onlive controller and the 3D's bluetooth. I know that the wiimote and PS3 controller cannot connect to the stock rom to play emulators or anything. So, does anybody know about the Onlive controller? Is it compatible with the 3D's bluetooth stack? I just don't want to shell out $50 to find out. Thanks!
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Onlive controller on the Evo 4G
I'm using it on my evo 4g. Turns out you need android 3.1 or 4.0 to run the controller,so I'm running deck ics alpha1 in one of my boot manager slots. I don't think cyanogen 7.1 supports HID, from what I understand that's the problem, the master and slave are switched. They say connected but no response form button input. It works on 4.0 but it's a little laggy, still testing.
Thanks for the reply! I think the best way to go about it would be getting a transformer prime
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Search isn't producing a definitive answer. Has anyone been successful with this yet? I've read that it works well on the color.
Unfortunately, not yet. We're without controllers until there are bluetooth capabilities.
Yes, We are currently without Bluetooth capabilities. Hopefully sometime in the future this will be possible, currently a lot of devs are working on developing a 3.x kernel so a ICS ROM can be possible. Right now 3.x and ICS are a priority for most, so it will be sometime before Bluetooth is working.
Hey Guys
First post here....
I am looking for info on how to set up a Xbox 360 wired (USB) controller on my Motorola Photon 4g. While searching around, i came to the conclusion that i'll need a Kernel that supports USG OTG or USB Host Mode, and, i think in theory,
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15806590/diagram2.png (also attached)
the above diagram should work. (Courtesy [Guide] USB Gaming on Nexus S Thread )
The problems are
i) my photon is on its way home, so i cant test anything here atleast for the next 3-4 days.
ii) I do not know of a kernel compatible with photon that supports USB Host mode.
iii) in the above diagram, the supply from the USB charger/Adapter goes to both the Phone's USB, as well as the Controller's USB power lines. Would that not be a problem for the phone? i mean why should i be inputting +5V on the power lines of the phone's USB? could it potentially damage the phone? I've played with an iPod's USB, and i am scared.
Can u guys help me in the points above?
P.S the above image was taken from Nexus S USB Gaming Thread on xda forums.
Also, i wont be buying a 99USD HD Docking Station to use the Controller or other Peripherals.
Regards
USB Host is not the issue as the Photon supports USB Host out of the box so any blur based rom should work just fine. Not sure about the CM7 or CM9 family of roms. I remember having to push pretty hard just to get BT mouse support for CM7 on the Evo.
The main issue you will run into is driver support for the controller. The XBox controller gives a device not recognized. PC controllers may be hit or miss but I've tried four or five with no success. Your best options are WIImote w/ classic controller or PS3 controller running over Bluetooth. If cost is a concern then look at off brand WII and PS3 controllers or get one used.
Another thing you will need to consider is game support. You would think a game like Galaxy on Fire 2 would support controllers but it does not. Only a handful of games support controller input directly the rest require custom input mapping and third party apps like "Sixaxis Controller" or "Wiimote Controller", to name a few. You will also find that proper analog mapping is generally limited to pay apps and when using the controller it acts as you input for the phone and not just games.
I guess I could put together a "Photon as game console" guide but am a bit buried in projects right now.
@Lokifish Marz,
does that mean even in USB Host Mode, the Photon 4G would require Device Drivers to be ported for android first and then it'll be able to work with the device? Its a little strange because i have read a lot on these forums, and none pointed out that we needed any drivers, all the posts said was that USB OTG/ USB Host Mode is required. (all the Nexus S gaming threads just ask one to install a particular kernel having USB Host Support, which the Photon already has, and plus an app in market namely USB Host Controller by SzTupY)
Game support ofcourse has been taken in mind.A few Tegra 2 games support Controllers, i mean the ones that actually need a controller (as in it would be better to play them with a controller)
Apart from the drivers (which with all due respect to u, i need to be reassured about, because of what i have read in the posts, plus, on other Android phones, specially the Nexus S, people have reported other Controllers working too) what about the Schematic diagram i made above? would it work fine according to you?
Please don't mind if i said anything offensive in the post, i respect all you are doing for the projects you are working on, especially the photon projects and u must be knowing way better than me
Regards
Plug an XBox360 controller into the USB port on a lapdock or HD Dock. Result, "USB Device not recognized. Supported devices includes USB Storage, keyboards and mice." In short, no drivers. If you see somebody using a usb controller on a phone, pay close attention to the phone that's being used. Example, the GS III is a freak of nature. I'd kill for 500GB external drive support.
Different phones support different things. The original Nexus had a mod that allowed for use of usb graphics cards. The original Evo's hardware supported usb host but drivers were never written for it.
Again, your best and most trouble free option is a bluetooth controller.
If it helps give you an idea as to where I'm coming from. I've been trying to get a phone/tabletdock/lapdock/mediapc/carpc/gameconsole built since about 2003 so I feel your pain.
@Loki
Would a build of CM9 help me getting the controller working? i mean the CM9 beta builds or CM7.2 ? as i already have a Wired controller, i'd want support for that only.
plus what can be some other controllers supported?
Now i want the Photon 4G gaming guide u know....I bet everyone who has a Photon would be glad if u make one.
Regards
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plus what can be some other controllers supported?
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I believe he already answered this when he said to use bluetooth controllers. Use a p3 or a wii controller.
@rexxxgg
when i asked him what others are supported, i meant what controllers else than the PS3 bluetooth and the WIImote controller are supported. On IM it was clarified that any Generic/non Sony but -for PS3- controller should be working fine with this phone, and that was what i was precisely asking.
Hey guys, I'm new here!
Just wondering if anyone has had much experience using their ps3 or xbox 360 controller with their device to play games? I've been looking into it but I haven't tried it yet. I think it would be great to be able to use them for things like emulators because for example SNES emulators are a bit dodgy to play with touch controls.
I know there's a sixaxis controller app to connect your ps3 controller and I heard that you can use a micro USB to female usb 2.0 to use your wired xbox 360 controller. I also believe you can connect a wireless xbox 360 controller if you have a wireless adapter.
Any thoughts on this?
Hi mate.
I have for the USB adapter for the S3 where you directly plug your controller into your device.it works great and is instantly rcognised! I use the ps3 controller since its more portable.only issue is that the wire and movements may cause the phone to fall when your playing games so you will have to have a good stand. Also for most games, I've used GBA, nes, psx, n64 emulators and GTA Vice city you have to configure the controller which is a pain at first.
I also have used the sixth axis Bluetooth feature which is great as well.just have to get the controller IDs off the PC and configure them to the phones Bluetooth.if you connect the controllers to another device like their consoles or Bluetooth to a PC, the connection to the phone has to be done again on the PC which can be annoying. But If you have the USB phone adapter you can configure it straight away and use it wirelessly.
Only problem I have with this is that gaming can make the phone heat up so its beat to keep the case ventilated and in a cool area to avoid over heating.
But it works very well!
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Hey, thank you for the information I have ordered a USB adapter to test out the xbox 360 controller which seems like the easiest option. I might get some sort of stand as well then because I can imagine it becoming annoying.. which leads me to think that although the ps3 controller seems to need a bit more messing around with, I like the idea of a wireless controller.
I was wondering about the over heating possibility although I've only really noticed the handset getting pretty hot whilst playing vice city.
Cannot wait to test this out!
Yep, as mentioned a USB On The Go cable works great with the S3. PS3 controller works just fine.. I think I remember having trouble with the 360 controller. And the sixaxis app does works great too
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Oh great, thank you that's good to know my PS3 is at university so I'll try that when I get back there in a couple weeks. As for the USB cable for the xbox controller, I didn't realise I needed an OTG cable (a normal one didn't work today haha) luckily they're cheap, it should arrive tomorrow
I use the sixaxis control app and my second ps3 controller.
You can wireless control your whole phone with your ps3 controller,like changing music and videos,scrolling trough the homescreen.
If you already have a second ps3 controller its pointless to buy a usb adapter since you can buy the app for one buck and have much more comfort.
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I use the sixaxis control app and my second ps3 controller.
You can wireless control your whole phone with your ps3 controller,like changing music and videos,scrolling trough the homescreen.
If you already have a second ps3 controller its pointless to buy a usb adapter since you can buy the app for one buck and have much more comfort.
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Very true. Does it respond to vibrations as well? That would be cool. I ordered an adapter because I want to try out the 360 control as well to make a conclusion as to what my favourite is
Wrong section, post in QA
Uhhh it seems fine in this section, don't think there was any need for you to comment to be honest!
i tried playing with a 360 controller and it wouldn't register the controller so, while it's a bit of a hassle to set up, you the PS3 controller is doable.
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Uhhh it seems fine in this section, don't think there was any need for you to comment to be honest!
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No, questions don't belong in the general section, that's what the QA section is for. Read the rules
Glebun said:
No, questions don't belong in the general section, that's what the QA section is for. Read the rules
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Well it's more of a discussion if you read the rest of the thread.
Sorry if it's in the wrong section, I did state I was new here at the beginning of the thread. I watched the noob video too. It was meant for a general discussion anyway it just happens to be a question also There hasn't been a problem until you brought it up.
thegh0sts said:
i tried playing with a 360 controller and it wouldn't register the controller so, while it's a bit of a hassle to set up, you the PS3 controller is doable.
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Did you use a OTG cable with your 360 controller? I used a normal micro usb - female 2.0 and that didn't register either but I heard the OTG cables work fine. I will try out both controls and post back what I think
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Well it's more of a discussion if you read the rest of the thread.
Sorry if it's in the wrong section
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It's okay, just don't do it again.
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There hasn't been a problem until you brought it up.
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That's because people don't care about the rules.
To use a ps3 controller via the cable it will work natively, to use the Xbox controller there is an app called USB BT joycenter which is available on the market.
There is also an app called sixaxis controller which will enable bluetooth for your phone and ps3 controller.
To play the games on your phone there is something called a Gameklip which is available in the accessories section of XDA in the sgs3 part.
I've bought one myself and it's really well made and works a charm.
If you are thinking of using two bluetooth pads and using the MHL cable to send the signal to a TV that is also possible but MHL on the S3 isn't great, the vast majority of people have an issue with the screen being set at a low refresh rate, or being stuck on 720p.
I myself have two LED 3D tvs, one LG which shows the picture in 1080p but at 30hz
And a panasonic viera which shows it in 1080i @ 60hz, the viera is much quicker and the input delay isn't as noticeable.
If you go down the bluetooth ps3 controller route then you will want to check out the themes and apps section to get profiles for the most popular games for the six axis app.
Hope this helps.
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Very true. Does it respond to vibrations as well? That would be cool. I ordered an adapter because I want to try out the 360 control as well to make a conclusion as to what my favourite is
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Yes it does.
As for the xbox controller, it is a bit too chunky to play games on your phone, not very portable and you also have to worry about that big cable dangling around all the time.
Also there is a kernel (perseus) which apparently has support for the xbox controller too.
dladz said:
To use a ps3 controller via the cable it will work natively, to use the Xbox controller there is an app called USB BT joycenter which is available on the market.
There is also an app called sixaxis controller which will enable bluetooth for your phone and ps3 controller.
To play the games on your phone there is something called a Gameklip which is available in the accessories section of XDA in the sgs3 part.
I've bought one myself and it's really well made and works a charm.
If you are thinking of using two bluetooth pads and using the MHL cable to send the signal to a TV that is also possible but MHL on the S3 isn't great, the vast majority of people have an issue with the screen being set at a low refresh rate, or being stuck on 720p.
I myself have two LED 3D tvs, one LG which shows the picture in 1080p but at 30hz
And a panasonic viera which shows it in 1080i @ 60hz, the viera is much quicker and the input delay isn't as noticeable.
If you go down the bluetooth ps3 controller route then you will want to check out the themes and apps section to get profiles for the most popular games for the six axis app.
Hope this helps.
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Yes it does.
As for the xbox controller, it is a bit too chunky to play games on your phone, not very portable and you also have to worry about that big cable dangling around all the time.
Also there is a kernel (perseus) which apparently has support for the xbox controller too.
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Thank you this information is very helpful.
I did not realise that android 4.2 makes it difficult to use Bluetooth devices. (I'm on cyanagenmod 10.1). Currently I am having trouble getting the Xbox 360 controller to work with emulators and any game for that matter using the USB BT joy center app. I'm following all the instructions and recommendations to a tee! Is this because I'm on 4.2? I know the OTG cable works because it recognises the controller in the app plus I can use a USB mouse with my device.
Also I never before considered using the Wii remote. I tried to pair mine but the problem was down to the fact I have 4.2 installed. Is there any way round this? I haven't found a solution so far. In don't really want to have to downgrade
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I can vouch for the Gameklip with a PS3 controller. Works very well, and is remarkably similar to Nvidia's new Project Shield.
I use a wired connection to the S3 because it's simpler and also because I found sometimes SixAxis would get pushed out of memory and closed if I was playing a heavy game. Annoying if your controller stops working mid-game.
Glebun said:
No, questions don't belong in the general section, that's what the QA section is for. Read the rules
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Mr. Glebun , is this a Q&A forum or am I ... blind ?
Stop acting like a secret service police officer here , I know you enjoy it but is enough now!
Be polite as you should and apologize for your silly atitude :thumbdown:
I think you're the one who must read unless some English problems
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Yup, it's in the QA now. Wasn't it moved?
Rar3 said:
Thank you this information is very helpful.
I did not realise that android 4.2 makes it difficult to use Bluetooth devices. (I'm on cyanagenmod 10.1). Currently I am having trouble getting the Xbox 360 controller to work with emulators and any game for that matter using the USB BT joy center app. I'm following all the instructions and recommendations to a tee! Is this because I'm on 4.2? I know the OTG cable works because it recognises the controller in the app plus I can use a USB mouse with my device.
Also I never before considered using the Wii remote. I tried to pair mine but the problem was down to the fact I have 4.2 installed. Is there any way round this? I haven't found a solution so far. In don't really want to have to downgrade
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~ Did you buy the app? You have to to get it to work.
Tried the apk ones for both six axis and USB BT and nether work.
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Mr. Glebun , is this a Q&A forum or am I ... blind ?
Stop acting like a secret service police officer here , I know you enjoy it but is enough now!
Be polite as you should and apologize for your silly atitude :thumbdown:
I think you're the one who must read unless some English problems
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Okay, so got time for a response.
It was in General section, which is against the rules. I reported the thread and a mod moved it in QA. Got it?
If you think that enforcing the rules is silly, you don't belong here.
What exactly do I have to read?