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I know the actual release date is June 24th. I also know Gold customers can get it by calling telesales on June 21. Is there any (Sprint employee's please chime in here) chance the corp. stores could get the phone early (June 21) and start handing them out to only GOLD customers?
Do the gold ppl even get it on the 21st or can they be the first to pay it off and have it sent to you on the 24th??
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I know the actual release date is June 24th. I also know Gold customers can get it by calling telesales on June 21. Is there any (Sprint employee's please chime in here) chance the corp. stores could get the phone early (June 21) and start handing them out to only GOLD customers?
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I think they would anger people by doing it that way unless they also started handing out their preorders then as well. Some people will have had a Sprint store preorder for over a month by that point, with Sprint holding on to $50 in some cases.
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I know the actual release date is June 24th. I also know Gold customers can get it by calling telesales on June 21. Is there any (Sprint employee's please chime in here) chance the corp. stores could get the phone early (June 21) and start handing them out to only GOLD customers?
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I severely doubt this would happen
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I know the actual release date is June 24th. I also know Gold customers can get it by calling telesales on June 21. Is there any (Sprint employee's please chime in here) chance the corp. stores could get the phone early (June 21) and start handing them out to only GOLD customers?
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i thought the 21st was for premier in general.. not just gold. silver members can order on the 21st, right??
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i thought the 21st was for premier in general.. not just gold. silver members can order on the 21st, right??
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Yep any premier (gold and silver) can order on the 21st.
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i thought the 21st was for premier in general.. not just gold. silver members can order on the 21st, right??
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To my knowledge, ALL premier members (Gold and Silver) will be able to order the 3D on the 21st of June via website or telesales ONLY. The idea behind this is to put the device in the hands of their premier members by the official release date ensuring them the device in case they sell out. I don't think you can just waltz into a Sprint store and get one on the 21st just because you're a premier member. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see Sprint allowed to start selling them on the 21st by request only just like they did with the Hero and EVO...the best thing to do is go by the "It never hurts to ask" policy
I don't see that happening.
Maybe Radioshack/Best Buy might sell some early. I certainly wouldn't mind.
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I think they would anger people by doing it that way unless they also started handing out their preorders then as well. Some people will have had a Sprint store preorder for over a month by that point, with Sprint holding on to $50 in some cases.
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This is very true. I just did this today.
What's more likely to happen is a couple of clueless Best buy or Radio Shack employees sell it early. But seeing as how the BB mobile department is more controlled and the employees a bit better trained I'm sure they'll stick to the release date.
Sprint is notorious for sending a company wide email stating that the stores are authorized to sell the devices a few days early upon request only...the 21st in this case seeing how the premier members are authorized to purchase them that day. Thats my hunch anyway...
It's possible that Sprint just starts handing out the Phones for Free, to all of us who pre ordered, tonight. I'm guessing that since they said. "Additionally, Sprint Premier customers will have the opportunity to purchase HTC EVO 3D online three days before the national launch, while supplies last. Qualifying customers will receive an email on June 21, or they can log on to their account at www.sprint.com on June 21, click "show me my rewards" and then "Sprint Premier Community" for more information." however that it's going to be online only. But I've been wrong before.
I have a dumb question I wonder if anyone can answer. I preordered at our local store, but found out afterwards of the opportunity to purchase on the 21st online. Sprint customer service told me that I cannot use the $50 gift card I purchased in order to preorder, to pay for it online. That seems somewhat silly considering it's a sprint gift card, but whatever. As expected, the $50 gift card is also non-refundable.
My question is if I can use the gift card towards my bill instead if I pay it in store. For some unknown reason Sprint customer service had no idea if you can use a gift card towards your bill, and I was required to make a (*$&[email protected]&!! appointment at the local store just to have that question answered.
Rather than going through all that nonsense, does anyone know if the gift card can be used online instead, and if not, can it be applied towards your monthly bill?
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I have a dumb question I wonder if anyone can answer. I preordered at our local store, but found out afterwards of the opportunity to purchase on the 21st online. Sprint customer service told me that I cannot use the $50 gift card I purchased in order to preorder, to pay for it online. That seems somewhat silly considering it's a sprint gift card, but whatever. As expected, the $50 gift card is also non-refundable.
My question is if I can use the gift card towards my bill instead if I pay it in store. For some unknown reason Sprint customer service had no idea if you can use a gift card towards your bill, and I was required to make a (*$&[email protected]&!! appointment at the local store just to have that question answered.
Rather than going through all that nonsense, does anyone know if the gift card can be used online instead, and if not, can it be applied towards your monthly bill?
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I was wondering this too since I decided that if I order online on the 21st I'd just charge the phone to my bill and go to a store and pay my bill using the gift card. I have no clue if the kiosks take gift cards though.
Hi guys, I though it would be a good idea to start a threat just for everyone who placed an order through Play.com UK and paid full price.
We can use this thread to keep everyone updated on the progress of their ordered, and any updates etc; whether they are able to get it at the discounted price, full refund, partial refund etc.
I ordered a 16GB this morning at 8:30am, and order was confimed at 2:44pm and sent to packing for delivery.
Price - £349
ordered at about 5am this morning
order confirmed at 05:57
packed at about 4pm this afternoon
16GB @ £349
Mailed them asking to cancel and advised I will source elsewhere for a much cheaper price... (I imagine its too late though)
Looks like Play.com are out of stock now. I can't find the HP touchpad 16/32gb anywhere on their site. It was there a few hours ago.
I'm also waiting on a Touchpad from play.com which I bought at full price earlier today.
My gut instinct having dealt with Play earlier on similiar issues is that we'll all be returning our TP's for a full refund
Still I'm going to remain optimistic..
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ordered at about 5am this morning
order confirmed at 05:57
packed at about 4pm this afternoon
16GB @ £349
Mailed them asking to cancel and advised I will source elsewhere for a much cheaper price... (I imagine its too late though)
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I'd recommend not cancelling your order just yet.
you'll be in a better position to negotiate with them once you have the product.
If you cancel before they despatch it, they won't lose anything, they'll just send it to someone else who was able to place an order.
Once you've got it, hopefully we'll be in a better position a few days after all this commotion, and they may be willing to refund the difference.
otherwise they have to go through the hassle or receiving product back, and then arranging to sell it on - probably at the reduced price.
I'm going to wait to see if mine actually comes through, then assess the situation then.
If they don't openly offer the refund, I'll put a complaint to them, and to the FSA.
their returns policy gives you 7 days to request the return or raise an issue - this is different to 7 days to actually return the item to them.
The complaint etc could last as long as you want, as long as you raise the issue within 7 days.
we should have a strong argument if we refer them to the fact they were aware on Monday that the supplier had significantly reduced the price, and that a large number of supplier not just in UK, but all across the world had reduced their prices to fall in line, and they are being unfair against the consumer by acting this way.
We could also quote things we can get - regarding their comments on Monday evening that they were aware of the price discount and were working on it, yet they chose to do nothing.
Ordered as mine was in my cart, however at time of checkout it stated not in stock.
I doubt I'll get it. however I'm also one of the wait and see's
There may be hope for us yet.
In the US - HP have agreed to refund customers the difference of all ordered purchased within 60 days of the price change.
HP are also 'leaning' on companies to offer the price match themselves.
So if Play.com don't crumble under the pressure over the next few days - maybe there is hope from HP directly.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-ne...efund-price-differences-for-early-buyers/3857
HP apparantly informed retailers on Monday that the prices will be reduced, and requested that all retailers offer to refund the difference in the sale price.
HP also advise that it can take a few days for all retailers to act on this.
called play.com in the end and they said it was too late to stop dispatch anyway (wanted to save myself a couple of £ in postage to be honest) - they have sent me my return code and marked it as potential return
so i still have to wait for it anyway...
but the chap I spoke to I did would they not do a price comparison, or are they even considering lowering the price but he said nope. Full refund or keep at full price basically.
@danlat1415 - do you have any of that information or anyway to process that with HP as I'll consider keeping it if thats the case! I wonder if we can ping an e-mail to HP pronto to try and get some clarification from them that we can apply for refunds if the retailer won't honour it...
If I was HP and I'd told everyone to cut the price on Monday, and found out retailers were basically ignoring them (probably to pocket the profits) I'd be a bit peeved -
out of this experience, I'll definitely not be considering Play.com for anything further apart from as a last resort...
sounds like @Analogue Dude has had a similar experience before... that's the feeling I am getting now too.
I'm looking into what HP are doing for UK customers and I'll keep you updated.
It's still very early, and once order are sent out and customers start complaining in large numbers - they may change their mind.
Also depends on what action HP take over the next few days.
Play.com don't want to get bad publicity, and if all other retailers are honouring the price change, it'll be bad for Play.com to try and profit from the limited stock they have - compare to the bad publicity they'll get.
I've been hunting around the net, and this isn't the only forum complaining about Play.com's decision, so strength in numbers...
I guess the only real outside chance of getting a partial refund is if every customer who bought a TP from them returns it this week. Hopefully the logistical nightmare/expense of checking every return will push Play into offering the refunds.
As I said earlier I doubt it happens though, Play are a horrible company to do business with, I haven't used them for years and if it wasn't for this deal I wouldn't have touched them with a foot long stylus.
I'd recommend anyone who has ordered from Play.com to complete the form on the attached link for the BBC Watchdog program.
we may not get anywhere with it, but it's best to put as much pressure as we can on Play.com to honour the discounted price.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/
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I guess the only real outside chance of getting a partial refund is if every customer who bought a TP from them returns it this week. Hopefully the logistical nightmare/expense of checking every return will push Play into offering the refunds.
As I said earlier I doubt it happens though, Play are a horrible company to do business with, I haven't used them for years and if it wasn't for this deal I wouldn't have touched them with a foot long stylus.
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Really hope so or HP kick their ass (which I doubt will happen)
I got the impression of a very non-caring company when I called them up - to be honest, I had a good impression of them before - but only used them a handful of times... I guess its because I never had to _deal_ with them properly before and just did an order which came and had no issues...
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I'd recommend anyone who has ordered from Play.com to complete the form on the attached link for the BBC Watchdog program.
we may not get anywhere with it, but it's best to put as much pressure as we can on Play.com to honour the discounted price.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/
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done that - not sure how much help it will give though...
i also wonder though is it worth putting in a 'request to return' with play for everyone's who order has dispatched ? its too late to cancel, but if they have a _lot_ of requests to return and the main reason being the stupid prices... ?
Don't suppose there is a HP email addy to send concerns to? Wonder if they can confirm or deny possible refunds...
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As far as I know, Argos and Play.com were the only two retailers that hadn't yet offered the lower price (whether it be for a limited time, like Amazon)
But Argos has this morning now caved in and reduced their prices to £89 and £115.
This will hopefully help in the fight against Play.com
they are now the only hightreet retailer trying to greatly profit from this sale.
I'm waiting for an update from HP and I'll let you know. Waiting to hear back from their press office.
So far they have only confirmed that they'll refund direct customers, and credit the retailers.
Just waiting to find out if their credit customers of retailers who are refusing to refund the difference.
(if the retailer are being credited by HP, then they are severely taking advantage of the customer.)
As more developments happen each day, hopefully by the time the Touchpads arrive it'll all either be sorted or a lot clearer.
had an email from play.com this morning saying they would not refund the difference and only option was to keep or send it back for a full refund.... will post the email in a few
was looking for an e-mail form for hp too to submit my disappointment with play
Thank you for your reply.
We regret to inform you that we are not able to process a partial refund should there be a change of price for HP TouchPad 16GB webOS 3.0 WiFi 9.7 inch Tablet PC but we are more than willing accept the item back upon receipt for full refund.
We have two options to process a refund for this order.
First is to allow 15 banking days delivery time frame to take effect so we can provide a Not Received Claim Form and the second is to return the item upon receipt. The latter option will require a Returns Authorisation code which we will be happy to provide as soon as you contact us.
You also have the option to print a pre-payed label on-line. In order for you to return an order, please follow the step by step procedure which can be found on the link below:
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This will prompt you to sign in on your PLAY.com account and choose the order you need to return.
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I just logged into my Play account and my order is now showing as cancelled with today's date beside it.
Card payment had gone through so I wonder what they're playing at
I'd suggest that we go protest outside Play HQ but I don't fancy going to jail for a touchpad (maybe an ipad....)
Brad from HP support said to contact UK HP support on 020 7660 0950
not really very helpful so far... i will check my play.com order - but i got an email saying it was dispatched
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Brad from HP support said to contact UK HP support on 020 7660 0950
not really very helpful so far... i will check my play.com order - but i got an email saying it was dispatched
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Thank for the update.
I too have got an email this morning confirming my order has been despatched via DHL and I've got a tracking number.
expect it to take upto 5 working days to be delivered, then I have 7 days for receipt to inform them if I wish to return for full refund.
That's approx 8-13 days to get this resolved and to put pressure on Play.com
it means no Christmas gift for me. Now seriously I just got a "friendly" email from Best buy explaining me my order has been backordered, I'm cancelling right now(a $650 order with dock), 2-3 more weeks waiting is totally unacceptable, I pre-ordered mine on November 23th, by the time tf201 is out, it will be only 2 weeks away from ipad 3 release, and there won't be any guarantees asus will deliver on time, it may be another delay. I will better wait for apple 3(already have an ipad 2 and tf101), so long asus.
Thanks, the more pre-orders that cancelled, the sooner I get mine!
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it means no Christmas gift for me. Now seriously I just got a "friendly" email from Best buy explaining me my order has been backordered, I'm cancelling right now(a $650 order with dock), 2-3 more weeks waiting is totally unacceptable, I pre-ordered mine on November 23th, by the time tf201 is out, it will be only 2 weeks away from ipad 3 release, and there won't be any guarantees asus will deliver on time, it may be another delay. I will better wait for apple 3(already have an ipad 2 and tf101), so long asus.
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iPad 3 isn't coming out in late January.
i got the same email
I am in the same boat. This was the sole gift for my 7 year old Autistic son.
I can understand the supply issues with a preorder product. However, I was in contact with Best Buy every day and, although each rep had a different story, all we ensuring me that I would get this by Christmas and that there were no problems with the order getting filled. Then, of course, they backorder the thing on the VERY LAST FULL SHOPPING DAY OF THE YEAR. Now most places are bare, will not be getting more shipments and a very unlikelihood of being able to order anything online for the holiday. To butter it up, Besy Buy reps have not made any offer to make good on this screw up. At least Gamestop and Amazon gave out credits.
I am going to be calling to make a huge stink today. I am not cancelling until I have the product from somewhere else, but I am going to spread the same holiday cheer they have with me.
By the way, feel free to contact the corporate offices and the CEO to send your holiday wishes as well:
Best Buy Corporate: (612) 291-1000
[email protected] (CEO)
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iPad 3 isn't coming out in late January.
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UmbraeSoulsbane said:
I am in the same boat. This was the sole gift for my 7 year old Autistic son.
I can understand the supply issues with a preorder product. However, I was in contact with Best Buy every day and, although each rep had a different story, all we ensuring me that I would get this by Christmas and that there were no problems with the order getting filled. Then, of course, they backorder the thing on the VERY LAST FULL SHOPPING DAY OF THE YEAR. Now most places are bare, will not be getting more shipments and a very unlikelihood of being able to order anything online for the holiday. To butter it up, Besy Buy reps have not made any offer to make good on this screw up. At least Gamestop and Amazon gave out credits.
I am going to be calling to make a huge stink today. I am not cancelling until I have the product from somewhere else, but I am going to spread the same holiday cheer they have with me.
By the way, feel free to contact the corporate offices and the CEO to send your holiday wishes as well:
Best Buy Corporate: (612) 291-1000
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Have you ever once considered that it is asus who is giving you the shaft? Seriously, they've pushed back the release date over and over and still have never given a solid date that it will be released. I'm sure BB wants to make money, they are not delaying orders just to piss people off here.
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Have you ever once considered that it is asus who is giving you the shaft? Seriously, they've pushed back the release date over and over and still have never given a solid date that it will be released. I'm sure BB wants to make money, they are not delaying orders just to piss people off here.
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Has anyone considered that no one is giving anyone the shaft, that crap sometimes happens that corporations cannot foresee? I think asus cannot keep up with the demand, and Best Buy probably had way to many people order. Granted the communication has been horrible, from every company dealing with this. I am in the same boat as you guys, waiting for it, but I do not believe that anyone set out to do this.
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Have you ever once considered that it is asus who is giving you the shaft? Seriously, they've pushed back the release date over and over and still have never given a solid date that it will be released. I'm sure BB wants to make money, they are not delaying orders just to piss people off here.
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It's more that they should've informed their customers that Asus is being stupid. Of course they said the 18th was just an ETA, but I was told countless times that there is no reason to believe it won't be shipping on that date. I had one guy tell me it had shipped to UPS and should get a shipping confirmation soon. All of that is unacceptable.
Remember the last 2 ipads re announced in Feb and did not ship until April. I would guess this one will be no different. Good luck getting one in February.
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Have you ever once considered that it is asus who is giving you the shaft? Seriously, they've pushed back the release date over and over and still have never given a solid date that it will be released. I'm sure BB wants to make money, they are not delaying orders just to piss people off here.
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Best Buy is responsible for fulling orders. If they did not have stock then they should not have been taking pre-orders. Other vendors did this, so Best Buy should be able to do it too. There's other things like maybe letting people know sooner their order would not be fulfilled.
I expect a retailer to be able to count.
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Best Buy is responsible for fulling orders. If they did not have stock then they should not have been taking pre-orders. Other vendors did this, so Best Buy should be able to do it too. There's other things like maybe letting people know sooner their order would not be fulfilled.
I expect a retailer to be able to count.
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I agree. Best Buy is the one that changed the dock's shipping date from 12/31 to 12/19. They could have send an email in advance about the delay issue. Now I won't have a Christmas present due to this "Primegate" fiasco.
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I agree. Best Buy is the one that changed the dock's shipping date from 12/31 to 12/19. They could have send an email in advance about the delay issue. Now I won't have a Christmas present due to this "Primegate" issue.
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Primegate®
stolen. she's mine now.
calin75 said:
I agree. Best Buy is the one that changed the dock's shipping date from 12/31 to 12/19. They could have send an email in advance about the delay issue. Now I won't have a Christmas present due to this "Primegate" issue.
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They did the same with the delayed release of the Thunderbolt. They are incompetent. I was giving them a second chance but now I am fed up with them. I canceled and ordered with Amazon again. I save Tax and shipping that way. When I have to wait until the new year then I want at least the best deal.
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I think asus cannot keep up with the demand
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Asus' CEO publically said "November" for release. Then Asus said "12/9." Then Asus said "12/19." Then Asus said "the week of 12/19." They'll make their last commitment but by sending far fewer units to far fewer resllers then they originally planned. The Galaxy Nexus was a highly anticipated device for VZW. They didn't officially launch it until their was enough inventory in the pipeline (stores, VZW.com, resellers) so that people looking for it didn't have to pull their hair out. Something happened that screwed up Asus' ability to honor their original commitments to resellers. Since they're a public company, they will have forecast "x" amount of Prime sales in 2011. We'll see when they file their Q4 earnings report how badly they missed their earlier projections. Bottom line is they rushed the product to be first to market with Teg3, encountered issues and had no slack in their timeline to deal with them, and are claiming victory by eeking out a small quantity of product this year.
and Best Buy probably had way to many people order.
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Totally not true. BB, like Amazon, was told by Asus how much initial inventory they'd be receiving and what the flow would be subsequently. They sold pre-orders based on those commitments. Asus botched the commitment causing both BB and Amazon to have to cancel or back-order customer orders. Amazon deserves props for getting the message out early and at least giving their customers an option to find a "plan B."
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Asus' CEO publically said "November" for release. Then Asus said "12/9." Then Asus said "12/19." Then Asus said "the week of 12/19." They'll make their last commitment but by sending far fewer units to far fewer resllers then they originally planned. The Galaxy Nexus was a highly anticipated device for VZW. They didn't officially launch it until their was enough inventory in the pipeline (stores, VZW.com, resellers) so that people looking for it didn't have to pull their hair out. Something happened that screwed up Asus' ability to honor their original commitments to resellers. Since they're a public company, they will have forecast "x" amount of Prime sales in 2011. We'll see when they file their Q4 earnings report how badly they missed their earlier projections. Bottom line is they rushed the product to be first to market with Teg3, encountered issues and had no slack in their timeline to deal with them, and are claiming victory by eeking out a small quantity of product this year.
Totally not true. BB, like Amazon, was told by Asus how much initial inventory they'd be receiving and what the flow would be subsequently. They sold pre-orders based on those commitments. Asus botched the commitment causing both BB and Amazon to have to cancel or back-order customer orders. Amazon deserves props for getting the message out early and at least giving their customers an option to find a "plan B."
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This happened last time. I'm really not sure what the exact cause of it is but it seems like their production/supply chain/delivery process is unreliable.
You would think they would have learned something the first time...
Honestly, a delay wouldn't be too bad. But, they have to be public about it -- not leave customers in the dark. This whole time they're trying to market this thing by giving it away on facebook but people who actually want to buy the thing, can't. Where is Asus's official message about these botched commitments? Asus isn't as big as some companies but it isn't a small company either; they should have said something by now. You limit the damage by being upfront with your customers.
As an update, I called and gave the rep a hard time expressing my opinion that Best Buy needed to make some attempt to make good. Finally after asking for free next day shipping and some sort of compensation for not getting anything for christmas, I was told they could not credit the order, but got an "issue number" to call back after it ships to get reimbursed for the shipping cost. Also they are sending me a $25 gift card.
It sucks to have to ask for this. I told them that upgrading the shipping was in their best interest because if I find it somewhere else they lose a sale. Of course, after they changed the order my status went from backordered to order in process, but I am sure this will revert back and was only because the order was changed.
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This happened last time. I'm really not sure what the exact cause of it is but it seems like their production/supply chain/delivery process is unreliable.
You would think they would have learned something the first time...
Honestly, a delay wouldn't be too bad. But, they have to be public about it -- not leave customers in the dark. This whole time they're trying to market this thing by giving it away on facebook but people who actually want to buy the thing, can't. Where is Asus's official message about these botched commitments? Asus isn't as big as some companies but it isn't a small company either; they should have said something by now. You limit the damage by being upfront with your customers.
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You're spot on. I've seen Asus' CEO speak and he's a bit of a character. His ego's also as big as a house. I'm guessing instead of letting the product drive the timeline he mandated the reverse. Product management's reported to me and this consequence is what happens when dates become more important then quality - in either the product or roll-out. Nine women can't have a baby in a month.
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You're spot on. I've seen Asus' CEO speak and he's a bit of a character. His ego's also as big as a house. I'm guessing instead of letting the product drive the timeline he mandated the reverse. Product management's reported to me and this consequence is what happens when dates become more important then quality - in either the product or roll-out. Nine women can't have a baby in a month.
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I think you're right. I think it's partly cause their CEO's a cowboy. I think the other part is that Asus made a strategic decision to be big in tablets (unlike, say, Acer, whose support is half-hearted). Asus wanted to be technology leader, in hardware, and OS, but had to hit the window before iPad 3 was released. So the CEO pushed, and drove the organization to the point where, as you say, dates drove the product, rather than conversely.
I for one, appreciate the strategic decision, and that emphasis is why I decided to return my Acer A500, and just wait for the Asus TF. I understand bleeding edge, vs leading edge, and pre-ordered one from BB on 12/4. So I got the 2 week wait email also. I was hoping for "on-time" delivery, but would have been surprised had it arrived before Christmas. So now it's a matter of managing my "wants" more than cursing BB.
That doesn't stop me from disliking BB's pre-order and order management practices. I doubt I'll online order from them again.
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That doesn't stop me from disliking BB's pre-order and order management practices. I doubt I'll online order from them again.
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I've had a few issues with them on some stuff but I had no idea how disjointed their order and dispatch systems were until the Prime incident(s). You'd think that after the death of CompUSA and Circuit City they'd have made some investments in their infrastructure. They managed this process far worse than some much smaller resellers.
UK customers are being treated shockingly and appallingly by Samsung compared to other countries in regards to not being offered any compensation for the recall of the Note 7
We already have the disadvantage of paying a higher price for Samsung products
Denied the Galaxy Note 5 in 2015
Denied the launch of Samsung Pay
Delayed launches of new releases before other countries
And now being denied any sort of compensation for the double recall of the Galaxy Note 7. Despite other countries like the USA receiving $100 for the inconvenience.
In the UK we have not received:
Any cash compensation
Any compensation for loss of money due to buying accessories
Any discount for the replacement Galaxy S7 Edge that is offered by Samsung
What we did receive:
A patronising and poorly worded email, that implied the greatest gift Samsung could offer to it's disadvantaged customers was a refund.
Something that Samsung would be legally obliged to do in any case.
The only way to get what we deserve is to complain officially to Samsung.
So, I am here to help you:
There's an easy and efficient way to do this, completely free and powered by the trusted UK consumer rights guru Martin Lewis's 'Money Saving Expert' Website and the tool there called RESOLVER. (links below) You simply fill in details of your complaint (the tool will advise on what to say), it took me 5 minutes. It will automatically post it to the correct address that needs to receive the complaint. It will notify you of any response and if no response is forthcoming will then progress to the next level of complaint right up to the board of Directors. Your case will be filed, time stamped and documented for you to refer to at any time in a dossier. Once again this is completely FREE and from a highly trusted respectable and successful consumer rights website.
It's really easy to use, requires a quick registration so that you can access your cases.
Here is the link: http://www.resolver.co.uk/
My complaint was worded as follows:
Dear Customer Services,
Reference:
Samsung Galaxy Note 7 purchased directly from Samsung UK online. Compensation request due to the recall of the Samsung Galaxy Note 7.
Complaint:
Samsung have not offered any compensation to UK customers who have endured several weeks of a double recall of the Galaxy Note 7. It has been observed that other countries including but not limited to North America have been offered $100 compensation.
The recall is compulsory, in that Samsung is crippling the Note 7 via OTA software patches to the phone purchased by the customer and forcing the customer to return it. This will be the second incidence of recall and with it comes a great deal of inconvenience, loss of enjoyment, financial loss and overall stress. Samsung have offered absolutely zero compensation and this is wholly unacceptable.
To action this I would like you to either offer a cash compensation in line with other countries, or offer a heavily discounted alternative replacement phone that is as near equivalent to the Galaxy Note 7 (for example, the Galaxy S7 Edge).
I look forward to a response within 7 days of this correspondence.
Please reply to my resolver email account as I would like to keep all of my communications in my personalised complaints case file.
Yours faithfully
I urge all UK customers that have had to endure this fiasco to spend 5-10 minutes doing what I did to get something for all the trouble caused.
Why should we be the under dog?
The more of us that submit complaints the more impact it will have.
I intend to make the press and tech websites aware of our actions if we do not get an appropriate response from Samsung
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Done.
apprentice said:
UK customers are being treated shockingly and appallingly by Samsung compared to other countries in regards to not being offered any compensation for the recall of the Note 7
We already have the disadvantage of paying a higher price for Samsung products
Denied the Galaxy Note 5 in 2015
Denied the launch of Samsung Pay
Delayed launches of new releases before other countries
And now being denied any sort of compensation for the double recall of the Galaxy Note 7. Despite other countries like the USA receiving $100 for the inconvenience.
In the UK we have not received:
Any cash compensation
Any compensation for loss of money due to buying accessories
Any discount for the replacement Galaxy S7 Edge that is offered by Samsung
What we did receive:
A patronising and poorly worded email, that implied the greatest gift Samsung could offer to it's disadvantaged customers was a refund.
Something that Samsung would be legally obliged to do in any case.
The only way to get what we deserve is to complain officially to Samsung.
So, I am here to help you:
There's an easy and efficient way to do this, completely free and powered by the trusted UK consumer rights guru Martin Lewis's 'Money Saving Expert' Website and the tool there called RESOLVER. (links below) You simply fill in details of your complaint (the tool will advise on what to say), it took me 5 minutes. It will automatically post it to the correct address that needs to receive the complaint. It will notify you of any response and if no response is forthcoming will then progress to the next level of complaint right up to the board of Directors. Your case will be filed, time stamped and documented for you to refer to at any time in a dossier. Once again this is completely FREE and from a highly trusted respectable and successful consumer rights website.
It's really easy to use, requires a quick registration so that you can access your cases.
Here is the link: http://www.resolver.co.uk/
My complaint was worded as follows:
Dear Customer Services,
Reference:
Samsung Galaxy Note 7 purchased directly from Samsung UK online. Compensation request due to the recall of the Samsung Galaxy Note 7.
Complaint:
Samsung have not offered any compensation to UK customers who have endured several weeks of a double recall of the Galaxy Note 7. It has been observed that other countries including but not limited to North America have been offered $100 compensation.
The recall is compulsory, in that Samsung is crippling the Note 7 via OTA software patches to the phone purchased by the customer and forcing the customer to return it. This will be the second incidence of recall and with it comes a great deal of inconvenience, loss of enjoyment, financial loss and overall stress. Samsung have offered absolutely zero compensation and this is wholly unacceptable.
To action this I would like you to either offer a cash compensation in line with other countries, or offer a heavily discounted alternative replacement phone that is as near equivalent to the Galaxy Note 7 (for example, the Galaxy S7 Edge).
I look forward to a response within 7 days of this correspondence.
Please reply to my resolver email account as I would like to keep all of my communications in my personalised complaints case file.
Yours faithfully
I urge all UK customers that have had to endure this fiasco to spend 5-10 minutes doing what I did to get something for all the trouble caused.
Why should we be the under dog?
The more of us that submit complaints the more impact it will have.
I intend to make the press and tech websites aware of our actions if we do not get an appropriate response from Samsung
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looks great ..
will fill in ..
but a note 7 from carphone whorehouse ... should the complaint be to samsung or CPW
and what category
magyosha said:
looks great ..
will fill in ..
but a note 7 from carphone whorehouse ... should the complaint be to samsung or CPW
and what category
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The manufacture is responsible for your losses so I would go with Samsung.
The category is "other" as you are complaining about customer service not the product in this instance.
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Thanks for giving it a go too!
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Done - borrowed most of your well-written note, and added some points about the particular messups around my original delivery etc.
Thanks for finding this site - it looks like a really useful way to pursue the issue. Hope something comes of it!
Very nicely done ..copy sent ..plus my other snotty email this morning
to add eve more insult to users in the UK who DID purchase.
those in India who only paid a deposit are getting treated better than us !!!
'For everyone who pre-booked the Note7 in India, the company is now offering the Galaxy S7 or the S7 edge instead. If you choose to go with either of these phones, you will be given a new Gear VR, Level U wireless stereo headset, and a $50 Oculus VR content voucher absolutely free. In addition to that you will also get one time screen replacement for free within 12 months of purchase.'
I don't know how likely this is, but is there at least a remote possibility that it's part of some broad, quiet effort to punish the UK over Brexit? If it is, it's definitely not right, but the thought has crossed my mind. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but there it is.
That said, good job on that, I hope you guys are successful in getting proper compensation!
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I don't know how likely this is, but is there at least a remote possibility that it's part of some broad, quiet effort to punish the UK over Brexit? If it is, it's definitely not right, but the thought has crossed my mind. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but there it is.
That said, good job on that, I hope you guys are successful in getting proper compensation!
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No I really don't think that.
In the UK (and Europe) we have been the underdog well before BREXIT. Besides, we haven't actually left the EU yet! (Though it can't come soon enough - that's another topic elsewhere!)
Sadly, everyone blames everything on BREXIT - probably someone blames the weather we have had recently on it!
I been complaining hard on Twitter about the lack of consistency from facebook, Twitter and email.
Two started to get information, by email they started to complain about my abroad purchased of a dual SIM phone and how I have to discuss with them even though I was offered a single sim variant before 2nd recall.
I have posted this chat to get an actual response. Getting quite angry with the run around
had a reply ,,,
Denis Kardjaliev (Samsung Shop)
Oct 16, 09:23 BST
Dear xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx
Thank you for contacting Samsung UK Online Shop and apologies for the belated response.
Firstly, we would like to extend our most sincerest apologies for the situation. We are extremely sorry to inform you that in our department we could only advise on purchases made directly with the Samsung Online Shop. Alternatively, we have a dedicated line which is handling Note 7 related queries, therefore, we invite you to give them a call to find out the best course of action for your particular case.
- Note 7 line: 0330 7261000
In the meantime, we recommend powering down the device for safety reasons. Please bare in mind that they might refuse to replace/refund your device if it's not from the UK. In that case, you'll need to contact your retailer.
We kindly remain at your disposal.
Samsung Shop Support Team.
magyosha said:
had a reply ,,,
Denis Kardjaliev (Samsung Shop)
Oct 16, 09:23 BST
Dear xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx
Thank you for contacting Samsung UK Online Shop and apologies for the belated response.
Firstly, we would like to extend our most sincerest apologies for the situation. We are extremely sorry to inform you that in our department we could only advise on purchases made directly with the Samsung Online Shop. Alternatively, we have a dedicated line which is handling Note 7 related queries, therefore, we invite you to give them a call to find out the best course of action for your particular case.
- Note 7 line: 0330 7261000
In the meantime, we recommend powering down the device for safety reasons. Please bare in mind that they might refuse to replace/refund your device if it's not from the UK. In that case, you'll need to contact your retailer.
We kindly remain at your disposal.
Samsung Shop Support Team.
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Same answer same guy
magyosha said:
had a reply ,,,
Denis Kardjaliev (Samsung Shop)
Oct 16, 09:23 BST
Dear xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx
Thank you for contacting Samsung UK Online Shop and apologies for the belated response.
Firstly, we would like to extend our most sincerest apologies for the situation. We are extremely sorry to inform you that in our department we could only advise on purchases made directly with the Samsung Online Shop. Alternatively, we have a dedicated line which is handling Note 7 related queries, therefore, we invite you to give them a call to find out the best course of action for your particular case.
- Note 7 line: 0330 7261000
In the meantime, we recommend powering down the device for safety reasons. Please bare in mind that they might refuse to replace/refund your device if it's not from the UK. In that case, you'll need to contact your retailer.
We kindly remain at your disposal.
Samsung Shop Support Team.
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The online shop are not the best team to contact regarding the customer service failure. It's online support.
If they fob you off with 'cut and paste' replies then it goes further up the chain.
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Just took mine back for a refund to CPW. Today is a sad day!
CPW Return UK
Just returned mine today also. Was asked for it headset box and all contents. I stood my ground and said while we stand here another potential customer will leave due to waiting in line (shop was busy . That soon surpassed the hurdle of accessories required rubbish. Then I was also refunded the £100 I paid upfront? No idea when I supposedly paid that shhh. Si now you ten days until beach to upgrade status happy days. The reason happy, is if noticed scratches staying to appear on the front left of screen. My two year old note 4 if still mint with no screen protection. So maybe something in the G5 screens??
The tried pushing inferior S7 edge as it's a safe phone and really the same! I said no thanks I'm due an upgrade not down grade and with outdated tech, at that.
Going short term sim only till S8+ arrives, hopefully sooner rather than later
The so called $100 allowance isn't really all that great a deal either. It is only for Samsung phones. Really, the only phone anybody will use it on is the s7. So Samsung is hoodwinking these folks...1. getting them off the complaint list 2. getting them locked into another 2 year agreement 3. Giving them 100 dollars bill credit for a phone that is about to be replaced, which is going to reduce any remaining inventory (great for Sammy) right before the release of the s8.
Go figure. Our situation isn't much better, and may be worse since the 100 dollars is acting as a incentive to make a poor choice.
EDIT: oh, and actually, the 100 dollar bill credit is in reality no benefit since contract phones are always inflated. You'll basically get the phone for $575 instead of $675. You could've had the same discount if the phone had been purchased via Amazon. They'll definitely keep the 100 dollar lower price point for the s7 once the new one rolls out. Nothing lost.
It is not just UK. The EU is a secondary market for Samsung. We all know that. Why - that I do not know.
pinetreehater said:
The so called $100 allowance isn't really all that great a deal either. It is only for Samsung phones. Really, the only phone anybody will use it on is the s7. So Samsung is hoodwinking these folks...1. getting them off the complaint list 2. getting them locked into another 2 year agreement 3. Giving them 100 dollars bill credit for a phone that is about to be replaced, which is going to reduce any remaining inventory (great for Sammy) right before the release of the s8.
Go figure. Our situation isn't much better, and may be worse since the 100 dollars is acting as a incentive to make a poor choice.
EDIT: oh, and actually, the 100 dollar bill credit is in reality no benefit since contract phones are always inflated. You'll basically get the phone for $575 instead of $675. You could've had the same discount if the phone had been purchased via Amazon. They'll definitely keep the 100 dollar lower price point for the s7 once the new one rolls out. Nothing lost.
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I hear what you're saying. But I personally paid £740 direct to Samsung (around $900) so I had already been ripped off. I wanted it 3 days earlier so that rip off was actually quite a kick in the teeth for someone paying up front direct to their store.
So even $100 (£80) is a measly amount yes, but any amount is better than nothing. It would at least cover my loss for accessories.
If they can't give us £80 off the cost of the S7E then they don't care about customers.
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I don't want money off another Samsung phone. I want the £80+ refunded for accessories. I contacted amazon who tol me to go direct to the sellers. The sellers told me to return stuff and pay postage myself - 2 addresses given were in the USA so the postage would be far higher than the cost.
I also want my time paid for. At least 5 long phone calls, many emails, 2 galaxy note7 set ups, 2 note 4 set ups and a note 2 (changing to and from my other half who was having my old phone).
Looking to buy a Pixel 6 for a relative between now and June. They currently have $100 discount if you finance the purchase. Trying to avoid opening yet another pointless credit account. With no major holidays between now and June other than Memorial Day, does anyone have a historical perspective how likely Google is to offer a similar discount without the financing baggage? Thx!
GroovyGeek said:
Looking to buy a Pixel 6 for a relative between now and June. They currently have $100 discount if you finance the purchase. Trying to avoid opening yet another pointless credit account. With no major holidays between now and June other than Memorial Day, does anyone have a historical perspective how likely Google is to offer a similar discount without the financing baggage? Thx!
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There is only one time to buy a device on discount and that's Black Friday IMO. Other than that you'll be having to open up a new account, upgrade an existing one or jump through hoops you didn't know existed. How about Swappa in a good condition P6? I think they're like 4 - 5 hundred. It's a good site with checks from what I can tell. I'm sure others have opinions too so listen to everyone before your decison.
you can get refebs at fantastic prices. 300$ off i saw one place right after i ordered mine from google.
I just got from T-Mobile for $99 to replace my OnePlus 7 Pro. Its pretty good deal I don't mind 24 months contract because I jave to use for work anyway.
They are/were doing a $100 discount if you used Google Financing.
That's what made me buy back in. I sold my original 6 pro due to bugs, tried iOS again, hated it, and bought another P6 when I saw the $100 discount.
That and 10% credit for google one. Not a bad deal.