Hi guys I saw the GT and the asus TF today in a shop. I played a bit with both and with no doubt the TF was much more responsive in the screen transitions and when the menus where appearing.
I understand devices in a shop are stressed by many people and are kept on for many days but I really noticed this so I ask you:
Is the GT a bit slow in the transitions? You know what I mean some things are not open to interpretations: the ipad2 is not slow in this, what about the GT? Is it at the same level?
I'm deciding whether to buy the GT or wait for another tablet as I don't want Apple. But this slowness puts me off.
Thank you.
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Hi guys I saw the GT and the asus TF today in a shop. I played a bit with both and with no doubt the TF was much more responsive in the screen transitions and when the menus where appearing.
I understand devices in a shop are stressed by many people and are kept on for many days but I really noticed this so I ask you:
Is the GT a bit slow in the transitions? You know what I mean some things are not open to interpretations: the ipad2 is not slow in this, what about the GT? Is it at the same level?
I'm deciding whether to buy the GT or wait for another tablet as I don't want Apple. But this slowness puts me off.
Thank you.
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I too played with TF in the store, but when I got it home, within 2 hours, it went back to BB. With TF, ratio of getting bad hardware if compared to tab 10.1 might be 4:1. This just my opinion from people who have found issues with asus transformer.
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Yes, i think that the Galaxy Tab is quite slow and stuttery in many situations. Home screen is laggy and Market is terrible to scroll!
I would have expected a much more polished and smooth operation, think i will send it back and wait until honeycomb/hardware is working flawlessly...
What do you guys think? This stuttery crap annoys me when i buy a device for >540€ !
So I am not the only one who notices it. And most importantly it is true that it is laggy.
Is the TW update of any help in making it smoother?
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i have had a xoom and it was lagging. really bad. until i rooted it and installed a custom kernel. then it flew. I purchased a gtab 10.1 and it was also slow but not as bad as the xoom but slow enough i was like forget it. well last night i got the itch to get the gtab again and there isn't any lag and it is responsive. during my first stint with the gtab i read where people didn't have any lag. so i can testify (in my opinion) some run smooth and some dont.. pain in the butt. so i think its a personal call if you can handle some lag and want to try to fix it through custom roms and kernels or take the bad with the good. hang on to it. if not, wait for the next generation of tabs.. i think that is what i am going to do..this tab wont let me get into downloading mode so screw it. i am done till better ones come out..
I've now owned 5 tablets: Streak 7, Xoom, A chinatab, an Iconia, and a GT10. They all have had little problems; lagginess, FCs, glitches; but I expected that.
The problem here is not hardware or software, it's users and marketing. These are being marketed as polished technology; in fact this is all new ground and every tablet maker on the market is still trying to figure it out. The problem is not that one is laggy; it's that you're expecting too much from what should really be toys for early adopters to figure out. I'd say, give it 2-3 years if you really need a polished experience on a tablet, or buy an ipad and accept the limited functionality.
Also; to directly address the question of TF vs GT10: I chose the GT10 because it's lighter and I don't need the connections. It would have been nice to have a microSD, but since I am not looking to replace a laptop computer (my tablet is entertainment only), it works best for me. I also like that Samsung appears to be prepared to support this tab for a bit; Asus is working on the TF2 already; support for the TF1 will drop off soon after the successor is replaced...
I think its just a software problem! There ARE Launchers which are nice and smooth, but somehow a multi-billion company isnt able to produce decent code, its laughable!
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I think its just a software problem! There ARE Launchers which are nice and smooth, but somehow a multi-billion company isnt able to produce decent code, its laughable!
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TouchWiz is, I guess is better than the stock one, and most of the lags are already gone. So far there's no other honeycomb based tablet in the market, without tegra2. So it will be hard to tell if it's hardware related issues or software. When hc runs on Tegra3 or any other hardware, then we'll know the actual culprit.
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It's just a shame the GT it's not smoother.. I'm reading also apps like drawing and stuff are very laggy.
I will weight these things carefully.
Everything is a trade off...
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Do you think it can become smoother with a custom rom?
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Do you think it can become smoother with a custom rom?
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It's already smooth with TW update. With custom roms it can be even smoother. You can try one of docs rom in development section. Also, once we see a custom kernel, that'll make it even more smoother. Also as someone already mentioned that HC is still in its early stages, in 2 to 3 years, it will be as powerful as the notebook, of course with better hardware as well.
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It's already smooth with TW update. With custom roms it can be even smoother. You can try one of docs rom in development section. Also, once we see a custom kernel, that'll make it even more smoother. Also as someone already mentioned that HC is still in its early stages, in 2 to 3 years, it will be as powerful as the notebook, of course with better hardware as well.
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Ok that's good news. I think I'll get it next week and play with it after I found out which custom rom is better.
Thanks everyone for the opinions.
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Ok I installed Bonsai ROM and didn't see any significant improvement in terms of smothness.
ALso for some reason I am not able to get the TW version. I installed the TW version of Bonsai but I keep getting HC..
Also tried one of doc's slim ROM but was getting a lot of FC.
GOod point is I tried doc's Launcher2 and this helped a lot in terms of smoothness.
Now the tablet is more responsive.
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Hi I am thinking of getting the gs2 to replace my lg g2x which is a kick ass phone but I am bored with it so I want something new. I was going to get the s1 but right before I changed phones the g2x came out and the specs were great. I dont regret it but I still want a Samsung. I just have a few questions first.
Overall how do you guys like your phone? A 5 year old can hack and root the g2x is this phone the same? If not how hard is it to root? What are the chances that this phone will get ICS? And how long do you think you will have to wait? And finally would it be better to wait for the galaxy nexus to come out? Is the galaxy nexus really going to be that much better than this phone? Also have any of you heard if the galaxy nexus is going to be available for TMO. I asked a rep today who said she did not know. But we all know asking the customer service over the phone is like asking my grandfather who hardly knows what a phone is. Any help you guys can be is greatly appreciated. Thanks alot
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Well it's a definite update from G2X. But if I were you I'd wait a little bit more and get the Nexus Prime. You are already 5 months late to get a GSII, now when you've waited this long why not few more days.
The SGS2 is a great phone and I don't think the galaxy nexus is going to be much better. BUT, I personally would go with the galaxy nexus since it bring the android experience ( I mean no touchwiz) and ICS. Anyway rooting SGS2 is a piece of cake, as is flashing ROMs and stuff so you could easily get CM7 running and get rid of the touchwiz interface.
So the galaxy nexus is coming to tmobile? If it is I am definitly going with it. Like I said a rep over the phone said thy did not know yet. But this close to launch I would tink they would know but thats just my opinion. Thats the other thing I wanted to ask about touchwiz. Is it ok or does it suck. The g2x is vannilla android and thats the way I perfer it. I actually dont really use cm7 not saying it sucks but I didnt even install cm 7 until the recent final relese of 7.1 came out. However I love Eagles blolod based off CM 7 that is by far the best most stable rom I have used to date. Anyway thanks for all your help guys.
How hard is the Galaxy S2 to root? Super easy.
How are the chances for it to get ICS? 100%
How long will it take? Hard to tell, as it depends on when google releases the sources. (Samsung release will have TouchWiz)
Is TouchWiz bad or good? It's not that bad, but I find both, MIUI and CyanogenMod, better. But that is just my opinion.
Is it better to wait for the Galaxy Nexus? Well I had the chance to give away my Galaxy S2 and get a Galaxy Nexus once it comes out, but I didn't. I must admit that the screen is damn impressive, but no micro-SD-slot is an absolute no-go for me.
Will the Galaxy Nexus be much better than the Galaxy S2? Define better. For watching movies? Yes. For playing games? I highly doubt that, as it got a weaker GPU and has a much higher resolution. Both factors have a negative impact on the performance. However, keep in mind that the Galaxy Nexus will set the standard for this "generation" of Android phones, so it doesn't really matter which one you get. Both are amazing.
I hope this helps you with your decision.
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wow I must have missed that no microsd card slot? I have not had a phone that didnt have one for over 10 years at this point. No SD card slot what? How much on board storage does it have Afew gigs? I mean I have a 16 gig in now and it is almost maxed out and easily could be I have to cut down on what I carry. I need 32 gigs I guess that they are pushing their google music cloud storage and google docs and such. Oh well thanks for the heads up.
As far as I know there are two versions. One with 16 and one with 32 gigabytes. For me 16 aren't enough and 32 too expensive. Besides that, I don't know if I might need even more in future. Therefore lacking the possibility to upgrade if it becomes necessary is a no-go for me. The screen is the only real argument that speaks for the Nexus. I can wait for ICS...
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Yes it has no sd card slot. I believe it comes in 16/32gb, can't remember. Well if you really want an HD screen you could wait till the sgs 2 HD LTE comes out for south korea and have it shipped down here. If not, the sgs 2 is all good.
Personally I don't even like the nexus prime, well the pricing at least. They want us to pay $300+ for a HD screen? Wow... Plus if the GPU it uses is a sgx 540 then that's an even more of a downgrade like the 8mp-5mp camera.
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...then that's an even more of a downgrade like the 8mp-5mp camera.
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That's bulls**t. The megapixels only tell you about the maximal size of the images, NOT about their actual quality. Why do people still think that more megapixels mean that the camera is better?
I wouldn't be surprised if the camera of the Galaxy Nexus will be much better than the camera of the Galaxy S2. However, we'll see...
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That's bulls**t. The megapixels only tell you about the maximal size of the images, NOT about their actual quality. Why do people still think that more megapixels mean that the camera is better?
I wouldn't be surprised if the camera of the Galaxy Nexus will be much better than the camera of the Galaxy S2. However, we'll see...
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Because it was used that way by advertisers just like having high cpu frequencies is right now. Why'd you think the s2 got pumped to 1.2 just before launch. But still you are right.
But on the matter, I have a s2 and it is an amazing phone. I don't think you will regret it if you'd bought it. But personally I'd go for the gn but it is mostly based on looks. Although I have never seen one.
ICS will take some time but if you want it as soon as possible the nexus is the way to go. And no TW. It works and it has some cool features but 75% of it is useless to me.
the SGS2 I9100 (this forum) doesn't work on T-Mobile US. I believe you're looking for this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1329
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Because it was used that way by advertisers just like having high cpu frequencies is right now. Why'd you think the s2 got pumped to 1.2 just before launch. But still you are right.
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Well you're right. I even underclocked my Galaxy S2 to 800 mhz. It still gets amazing scores thanks to being a dual-core, having an amazing GPU and running MIUI. But now I can play much longer.
I guess I just thought that the people here on xda were smart enough to know, but forgot about the fact that this site has so many different users.
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Well you're right. I even underclocked my Galaxy S2 to 800 mhz. It still gets amazing scores thanks to being a dual-core, having an amazing GPU and running MIUI. But now I can play much longer.
I guess I just thought that the people here on xda were smart enough to know, but forgot about the fact that this site has so many different users.
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Well I probably count as one of those many other peeps
Just here to use others creations. Might pick up programming though the more I learn here the more I find these little things nobody cares about.
Well, learning by doing is how I learned what I can today (besides of school). Right now I want to start with developing for Android, but I hate Java and monoDroid is too expensive for someone who only wants to develop apps for personal use.
Wow, got quite off-topic here...
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That's bulls**t. The megapixels only tell you about the maximal size of the images, NOT about their actual quality. Why do people still think that more megapixels mean that the camera is better?
I wouldn't be surprised if the camera of the Galaxy Nexus will be much better than the camera of the Galaxy S2. However, we'll see...
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I am aware that megapixels mean do not give the actual performance. However in the case of mobile phones and chips, it is highly unlikely samsung will produce or place a 5mp camera better than the 8mp camera found on the sgs 2. This is a mobile camera sensor, there is only so much you can do with it. Aside from lens, etc.
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I am aware that megapixels mean do not give the actual performance. However in the case of mobile phones and chips, it is highly unlikely samsung will produce or place a 5mp camera better than the 8mp camera found on the sgs 2. This is a mobile camera sensor, there is only so much you can do with it. Aside from lens, etc.
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You forget that there might be some "new technology" that improves the camera. Besides that, the integration of the camera into the OS is also very important and ICS should give the Galaxy Nexus a fair advantage in that point. At least until the Galaxy S2 gets ICS.
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Hello,
I'm strongly considering getting one of the above, once the second one is available. The fact that the noteay have a stronger processor is a plus.
What should I be looking out for in these devices? What are niggles that would prompt me to check and potentially need to replace if found? Software bugs? Construction quality?
Overall use is going to be internet, everyday calendar, notes etc.
Thanks in advance!
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Wait for note. It will probs be lighter and thinner and will defo have a faster processor. Plus it ships with ics. And it has the pen
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Wait for note. It will probs be lighter and thinner and will defo have a faster processor. Plus it ships with ics. And it has the pen
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it is neither lighter nor thinner , but has a faster processor and a pen
If you're price conscious then the original tab is a great buy. Also consider that accessories for the 10.1 Note will be at a premium while a ton of stuff for the original tab are on clearance.
Wait for the note... The pen is surprisingly great (on the note 5.3 anyway), and the faster processor will be a nice upgrade, because the Tegra 2 in the original 10.1 tab isn't great... Very laggy... Yes it's better with cm9, but still not that good.
I have a gt-p7510 Galaxy tab 10.1 and I like it, but if I didn't already have it, I would definitely wait for the note 10.1.
Thanks for the replies guys. Really appreciated.
I too hate the lag and on video reviews of the note I thought it was very slow so good thing they are improving the processor.
I always wondered if you could use a stylus on the original tab. What is the upgrade that makes the note souh better with the stylus from the tab?
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vasp3690 said:
Hello,
I'm strongly considering getting one of the above, once the second one is available. The fact that the noteay have a stronger processor is a plus.
What should I be looking out for in these devices? What are niggles that would prompt me to check and potentially need to replace if found? Software bugs? Construction quality?
Overall use is going to be internet, everyday calendar, notes etc.
Thanks in advance!
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If you're planning to use it for note-taking, the note 10.1 is an easy choice. For everything else, you'll want to consider whether the faster processor is worth the price difference.
I would also wait on the note, even though it won't be out for a good while. I got the galaxy tab 10.1 a few weeks ago and am loving it so far. But this won't stop me from getting the note 10.1 the moment it becomes available (will have to sell this tab then lol). The biggest thing, for me personally, is the pen; stylus functionality isn't the best thing in the world when it comes to the original tab 10.1 even though it may be functional. But thats all it is, functional, not amazing or practical when it comes to taking notes (student's perspective). Of course the processor bump just makes it sweeter, I'm just hoping the price isn't too steep.
Would the Note have the same touch capability as the Tab if not using the pen? If so, then it was be a great plus!
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Would the Note have the same touch capability as the Tab if not using the pen? If so, then it was be a great plus!
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Yes the stylus isn't required. The touch capability would be the same as the current tab, if anything better (highly unlikely) when it comes to using your fingers. The stylus just adds the extra dimension of certain apps that take advantage of that, such as iAnnotate PDF, Zenbrush, etc. And lets not forget the superb precision the pen will bring when it comes to drawing and taking notes. If Samsung puts in an AMOLED HD screen (Ok I'm seriously asking for too much with this suggestion) this tablet will be beyond perfect, IMO.
If price isn't a concern, I'd say wait for the Note. Why buy last year's model when the new one is right around the corner? The processor bump will probably be enough to justify the price difference, but I'm happy enough with my Tab to sit this round out.
as I have mentioned in other threads my experience with 3g model has not been good, as in Samsung stock experience.
The hardware is good, there is no denying of that of course, and if you can mod it you can get pretty good results (I am happy with the latest ROM I installed, Overcome + pershoot kernel).
Although samsung seems to be delaying ics upgrade in favor of new hardware and in my case in Spain I haven't received a single update to my 3g from stock HC 3.1, and stock is everything but functional after little use, not to mention no launcher hw acceleration so when you have a few icons, dragging them around can be infuriating, of course forget about live wallpapers, screen not refreshing certain elements after a while, reboots, and similar utter failure.
From what I am reading Asus is giving better support and motorola xoom already has ICS.
I even have a college at work who is talking wonders about a chinese tab (Onda?) which is much cheaper and already working with ICS.
I suggest you consider the manufacturer.
So here it is June. Any rumored dates for the Galaxy Note 10.1?
And will that justify a new forum, or will we continue with this one?
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as I have mentioned in other threads my experience with 3g model has not been good, as in Samsung stock experience.
The hardware is good, there is no denying of that of course, and if you can mod it you can get pretty good results (I am happy with the latest ROM I installed, Overcome + pershoot kernel).
Although samsung seems to be delaying ics upgrade in favor of new hardware and in my case in Spain I haven't received a single update to my 3g from stock HC 3.1, and stock is everything but functional after little use, not to mention no launcher hw acceleration so when you have a few icons, dragging them around can be infuriating, of course forget about live wallpapers, screen not refreshing certain elements after a while, reboots, and similar utter failure.
From what I am reading Asus is giving better support and motorola xoom already has ICS.
I even have a college at work who is talking wonders about a chinese tab (Onda?) which is much cheaper and already working with ICS.
I suggest you consider the manufacturer.
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I don't have any of those problems with my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Dragging icons is fine, live wallpapers work fine, everything refreshes as it should, and I've not had any spontaneous reboots. I'm not rooted and everything seems zippy and smooth. Best tablet I've had so far. I'd like ICS but I'm willing to be patient. I'm sure they have their hands full making sure it's stable and working properly with Touchwiz. Anyone waiting for it through a carrier should be angry with them, not Samsung. The carriers are the ones responsible for pushing the update and most of them drag their feet for some reason.
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I don't have any of those problems with my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Dragging icons is fine, live wallpapers work fine, everything refreshes as it should, and I've not had any spontaneous reboots. I'm not rooted and everything seems zippy and smooth. Best tablet I've had so far. I'd like ICS but I'm willing to be patient. I'm sure they have their hands full making sure it's stable and working properly with Touchwiz. Anyone waiting for it through a carrier should be angry with them, not Samsung. The carriers are the ones responsible for pushing the update and most of them drag their feet for some reason.
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Agree with this and i got no carrier limitations since i got international sim unlocked Tab and they cant prevent My upgrades
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Personally I say neither and go with Asus. Of the tablets Samsung has been amount the worse at providing updates and failing to do so.
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Personally I say neither and go with Asus. Of the tablets Samsung has been amount the worse at providing updates and failing to do so.
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Untrue. LG and Motorola have been far worse. Again, any carrier locked device is at the mercy of the carrier, not Samsung. Samsung may very well have pushed the ICS update to all the major carriers but they haven't pushed it out to their customers yet. Probably because they want to shove all their own UIs and bloatware on it first.
I would be getting the tab sim free and adding a sim to it later on. I much rather not have a locked device if I can buy it depending on price. So I presume updating wont be an issue.
Still no word from samsung though about the release dates
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Near the end of june now and still nothing from samsung for this one...
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Hi all, I am a member here coming from an AT&T Galaxy S3. I just ordered a Galaxy Note an hour ago and wanted to know some hands on user experiences? I have looked at youtube videos and they just don't seem to do the trick. I would like to know if they are really smooth and if they have good functionality, battery life, and if the development is good?
With the GSM SIII's losing IMEI's left and right, and all the bugs already, I am wondering how good the note really is.
I am not really looking for a 'persuasion' opinion because I will have both devices here before too long when the note gets here. I just want to know everyones experience and if the phone is laggy or anything, or any known bugs.
Any help is greatly appreciated and I will thank all members that give me some feedback.
Thanks! :good:
First off congrats on getting your note.
Stock 2.3 had some lag issues for me but ics fixed that and is smooth even stock.
As far as development goes i haven't tried allot out but have seen allot going on there are some great stockish roms with only a few tweaks but my choice right now is the collective aocp cp1 ROM .
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First off congrats on getting your note.
Stock 2.3 had some lag issues for me but ics fixed that and is smooth even stock.
As far as development goes i haven't tried allot out but have seen allot going on there are some great stockish roms with only a few tweaks but my choice right now is the collective aocp cp1 ROM .
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I appreciate this. I am hoping it will be good. I have like 8 devices now and I am trying to keep it on just one lol. I am stuck between my GSIII and now the Note when it arrives. I am sure each will have its perks. I just wanted user experiences.
Right now, in my opinion, the Note is the best phone on the market. We have awesome dev support. Any worries of lag you can pretty much throw out the window. The stock ROM, debloated, is very smooth and performs well, I have been quite happy with debloated stock ICS, and it it's legitimately the first Android I have used where the stock ROM is bearable, let alone satisfactory.
However, the work the devs have done will likely make you want to flash a custom ROM fairly quickly. We have official CM9 nightlies, and to make that even better, Cyanogen himself is the developer for that. We also have AOKP variants, as well as a few hybrids and AOSP roms. I'm currently running Gubment Cheeze by rasroygbiv, which is a CM9 variant, and I couldn't be happier, this thing flies and sips battery; highly recommended by me. I've tried most everything in the development forum as I'm a flashaholic, and I can tell you that the Note will not disappoint. JB is also in the works by several of our developers, and we should have stable builds very soon. Dev support is awesome to say the least.
There are no issues with IMEI switching that are know, and we have plenty of options to return your Note to complete stock, including a flash counter reset, so you shouldn't have any worries flashing. In addition, it's a Samsung, which means unless you're dumb and rush things, it's damn near impossible to hard brick. And even if you do manage to hard brick, there are JTAG services available for like 40 bucks that will fix that.
Battery life is slightly above average which is nice. Most people get around 3.5-4 hours of screen on time, and generally anywhere from 12-18 hours of standby or more depending on what all you have running/syncing. So there shouldn't be any worries there.
Plus, we have this beautiful 5.3" monster of a screen that will make you fall in love. It isn't even a question that you'll love the Note. It's a question of if you'll still love your other phones. =]
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That pretty much summed it up for me. If I could thank you 5 ttines I would
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I just wanna say that was the best feedback I have ever got on here. Thank you again.
No problem, glad I could help. =]
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First thing I would recommend is go with either a stock debloated ROM or even better would be going with h0tw1r3's ICS kernel and DAGr8's AOKP milestone 6 ROM. This combination for me has been beyond excellent. Incredibly smooth, rock solid stable and a pleasure to have. With my current CPU setup I'm at 15 hours off the charger and still have 70% battery (1 hour of screen on).
You can expect about 4-5 hours of actual screen on time.
If you can get past the size of the phone - which is honestly the biggest stumbling block for most new comers to the note, there's very few devices out there that are as good as the i717.
Good luck with your new note!
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netsyd said:
First thing I would recommend is go with either a stock debloated ROM or even better would be going with h0tw1r3's ICS kernel and DAGr8's AOKP milestone 6 ROM. This combination for me has been beyond excellent. Incredibly smooth, rock solid stable and a pleasure to have. With my current CPU setup I'm at 15 hours off the charger and still have 70% battery (1 hour of screen on).
You can expect about 4-5 hours of actual screen on time.
If you can get past the size of the phone - which is honestly the biggest stumbling block for most new comers to the note, there's very few devices out there that are as good as the i717.
Good luck with your new note!
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I am limited to 8 thanks per day, which I am pretty sad about, but I will be sure to thank you tomorrow haha.
I am not worried about the size, just the lag issues I have heard about and the quality of the screen.... can you differentiate between pixels to the naked eye or anything?
Optimizer said:
Hi all, I am a member here coming from an AT&T Galaxy S3. I just ordered a Galaxy Note an hour ago and wanted to know some hands on user experiences? I have looked at youtube videos and they just don't seem to do the trick. I would like to know if they are really smooth and if they have good functionality, battery life, and if the development is good?
With the GSM SIII's losing IMEI's left and right, and all the bugs already, I am wondering how good the note really is.
I am not really looking for a 'persuasion' opinion because I will have both devices here before too long when the note gets here. I just want to know everyones experience and if the phone is laggy or anything, or any known bugs.
Any help is greatly appreciated and I will thank all members that give me some feedback.
Thanks! :good:
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The new one is coming or being announced in two weeks. My note with the ROM I'm currently using is just as fast as my S3, and much more capable due to the Samsung apps-- I.e. S Note, the widgets, and the ability to flash S3 apps and widgets because of phMod and the touchwiz framework support inherent in such a configuration.
You absolutely ant go wrong. I had a macbook pro, which I used for browser duty/media, and an iPhone for gaming and news. I stopped using my iPhone and my macbook pro when I got my TF101. I then got my Galaxy Note, and stopped using my tablet for anything but reading, and I split news duty between my Note and Transformer.
Even with the Snapdragon S3, ICS & the custom ROMs (and gingerbread earlier on) made it so the performance was as smooth or smoother than on any other device I touched, including the Prime.
Even games like Dead Trigger, with the Tegra 3 graphics effects enabled run well. They don't run at 60FPS, but to be honest, the display quality is such that you'll be wowed by the resolution and color vibrance and won't notice when you're only running at 30-40 fps. The gpu was the only area where I could've used just a tad bit more power-- I had that power with the GPU over clock that came with the first over clock kernel that was available here. I haven't seen that GPU OC make a comeback in ICS, even after the kernel source was released--disappointing.
Some suggest that the new Note will have a quad core S4, or the new Exynos wit baked in LTE (they won't give up LTE)....so I really think you're cutting yourself short. On the other hand, the enthusiasts and developers are, and will be here, likely for another year, when on contract, they can get an early 18 month upgrade, unless they buy retail.
You have a vibrant, CM and Indie supported community here, with the turkey, the gravy, and all the trimmings. Its impossible to guarantee that wit a new device-- especially one that had a predecessor released what, 4 or 5 months ago (Jesus christ!).
So weigh an established device that is supported, vs a SoC upgrade....because the Note 2 won't be much different. It wont have a better screen-- in fact, the screen resolution will stay the same, and if the rumors are correct, screen size will increase, resulting in a lower pixel density. It will be unproven, and might get better battery life (I say it might, because the rumors say it will get thinner....something that will impact the battery capacity, when in combination with a change to a more efficient, would likely balance out). It will have a less dense, but bigger screen.
I will however tell you that virtually e v e r y o n e that's used the Note, would likely pick it over any device on the market anywhere.
The form factor and screen quality trumps virtually every other ace in the hole out there.
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With the new kernel, and AOKP - I have ZERO lag. And the screen is on par with the best I've seen (including the 4s).
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See, I don't game alot. Main things are
Texting
Calling
Internet a little
Facebook
Xda
Twitter
And music.
If the note can handle those super smooth with no issues I have a feeling I'm going with thst
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See, I don't game alot. Main things are
Texting
Calling
Internet a little
Facebook
Xda
Twitter
And music.
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You won't be disappointed.
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I can't compare the Note with your S3, but I have the Note and the international quad core S3. My quad S3 is definitely a hair smoother, but that doesn't make up for the extra screen real estate, and s pen functionality. The extra smoothness of the S3 is hardly noticeable, versus when I pull out my s pen and start taking notes. That's a noticeable difference.
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I appreciate this. I am hoping it will be good. I have like 8 devices now and I am trying to keep it on just one lol. I am stuck between my GSIII and now the Note when it arrives. I am sure each will have its perks. I just wanted user experiences.
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i have never used the s3 but the note is by fast the best phone o have used or even seen the screen is amazing very fast and is a very solid device. Every one that sees it is like omg that's a phone.....so it makes a good conversation starter.
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I can't compare the Note with your S3, but I have the Note and the international quad core S3. My quad S3 is definitely a hair smoother, but that doesn't make up for the extra screen real estate, and s pen functionality. The extra smoothness of the S3 is hardly noticeable, versus when I pull out my s pen and start taking notes. That's a noticeable difference.
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honestly I will probably NEVER use the SPen lol.... I just like the bigger screen and I hear great development for it.
I just dont wanna go from my S3, to a Note, and then be disappointed. Granted I can always switch back, but I just spent X amount of money a new in box sealed note. I am pretty hopeful it works good. Thinking about donating some of these other phones I have to Devs that have bricked or something. I litterally have 2 iphone 4's, 2 iphone 4s's, a One X, a Note now, an S2 and S3, and like the older G1's and stuff. May do that when I finally decide what device to keep.
Hi,
I do know that's more or less an old topic but well...I have a big dilemma so maybe you should help me out.
I'm owning a SGS3 int. and well I'm more or less fine with it; I choosed it over HOX mainly because of chance to change battery and winner cpu/ram benchmark (with 15/20% more in every damn test) and a bigger screen (not much but better then nothing).
The dilemma started 1 week ago when a friend of mine bought the HOX and well...the screen seems really so much better in HOX.
At the same time, despite few games lag on HOX, the Tegra has some optimized game for it giving some cool effect.
I mainly use the phone to watch movie and play videogames so, in some way, HOX win for me so I was thinking to chance my SGS3 for an HOX but I wanted to ear your opinion, hoping that will not start flame or fan boy reply.
I am really interested in opnions of who maybe tried both or who maybe changed his HOX for the SGS3.
Thanks,
Max
I have both and personally I prefer the one x. It is laggier though as sense is quite bloated and if you want to run custom roms you need to unlock your boot loader with HTCDev which is you basically telling HTC you have voided your warranty. The screen on the one x is far better in my opinion and tegra optimised games look great. But there is a thread with One X vs SGS3 so you might want to look there.
Another this versus that thread....get the keys out, lock time
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I own a HOX with a clean ICS ROM and it hands down beats my friends SGS3. The screen is much prettier and performance is much the same if not better during games with nvidia's tegra 3. However the HOX with sense 4 is a little laggy. The ROM is 3-4 times bigger. It really depends if you're up for flashing a non-sense ROM to the HOX. If you are, I think that it's better. I think it looks nice too although that's really down to you. If you can't be bothered with that kind of thing, the S3 is probably a better bet.
Another thing to be aware of.. lots of ports of Jelly Bean are being developed as we speak. Both for the SGS3 and HOX phones. Project butter is going to make using them incredibly satisfying and smooth. We shall have to wait til after BETA testing to see how well they can really put down that quad core power with androids latest OS
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Funny, I don't remember being told that XDA offered a personal shopper service when I registered. Pretty cool actually. This way I won't have to do any research or investigation of which device is right for me on my own. I can just let all the other XDA members do the heavy lifting for me.
No doubt HOX screen is better especially for watching movies. Since you like to watch movies on screen less than 5inc, then HOX suit you more.
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I personally watch movies on a 42"Samsung led 3d tv??
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I personally watch movies on a 42"Samsung led 3d tv??
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I'm sorry, but how do you manage this???
And people said the Galaxy Note was too big to put in your pocket, but you lug around a 42" LED TV to watch movies on the train?
There is already a thread for comparing this phone to others.
In before lock.
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Close, there is a huge thread in the general section covering this subject to death.
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HI all, i recently purchased a ATT Note and love it. I have come back to droid after being on the iphone for a while. I fell in love with the screen. I almost sided with the Galaxy SIII due to the performance being so much better but the display model Note was not running ICS. So i got the note, brought it home and got it updated. Its a great phone, i love it. Especially for me being able to remote into my work computer and assist end users in troubleshooting. I am getting close to returning it though and getting the GSIII due to it being just so much faster. Is there a current ROM available that improves performance? There just seems to be so much lag when opening things up and when typing. The GSIII also has a nice screen but is noticeably smaller to me and that was a drawback but the performance is really better to me and things open instantly. Thanks for any input! I apologize for any repost i did a search and did not really see anything, Thanks for any help!
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HI all, i recently purchased a ATT Note and love it. I have come back to droid after being on the iphone for a while. I fell in love with the screen. I almost sided with the Galaxy SIII due to the performance being so much better but the display model Note was not running ICS. So i got the note, brought it home and got it updated. Its a great phone, i love it. Especially for me being able to remote into my work computer and assist end users in troubleshooting. I am getting close to returning it though and getting the GSIII due to it being just so much faster. Is there a current ROM available that improves performance? There just seems to be so much lag when opening things up and when typing. The GSIII also has a nice screen but is noticeably smaller to me and that was a drawback but the performance is really better to me and things open instantly. Thanks for any input! I apologize for any repost i did a search and did not really see anything, Thanks for any help!
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Get it rooted if you have not already and get away from stock ICS, its poop. Literally. You will notice a drastic difference with any lag with many of the Dev's roms here. PA is my personal preference but any Cyanogen build or... Man just read some stuff and decide for your self. Bottom line, drop ICS.
And yes it is the wrong forum.
Root, rom, and use h0twire oc if roming with ics based rom... turns the phone into a beast
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Thanks for the replies! This is great news! I shall get to work. It's been a while for me on the droid. My last one was the captivate. I had to go back to an iPhone due to my corporate offices not allowing email and such to be used on the droid devices. They are finally allowing touchdown so i am so happy to be back on the droids!!!
I am happy to hear that the performance can be improved. I had posted in teh Q&A section and i am getting some great replies like just get an ipad. Wonderful help! lol
Cm9 performance is awesome even without an oc kernel.
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Get on CM10 not CM9 thats oldschool.
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Get on CM10 not CM9 thats oldschool.
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But there's no OC support yet.
I'm ready to use Jelly Bean primarily as much as the next person but to be honest, its just not quite ready if you consider the performance. The graphics kinks haven't all been ironed out yet so if you're wanting to really see the full potential of your Note, I would recommend using either the official Cyanogenmod ROM (or the latest nightly) or h0twir3's current remake of it. They have the fastest, most responsive feel to me compared to all of the other ROM's available right now, plus they're clean and basic which is always my preference. Jelly Bean is getting better every day though so give it a whirl if you like. I'm expecting it to be exponentially improved by the end of the month.
Its to argue against the sg3. It has 2gb of ram and thats pretty much the difference. Its always gonna seem a bit zippy in comparison. I like my note for screen size, s-pen, quality software and dev support. No other phone has those requirements at the moment. And obviously it can stand up wit the other top tier phone around. It becomes a matter of preference and necessity so its totally up to you.
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Gubment cheese rom has been wonderful for me. Super fast and no issues
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Stock cm9 with no oc is quite fast. I have no complaints. (I actually had to go double check I was using stock kernel with no oc).
Sure I would love a device with a stronger gpu at least, but for me the screen outweighs all at the moment.
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Its to argue against the sg3. It has 2gb of ram and thats pretty much the difference. Its always gonna seem a bit zippy in comparison. I like my note for screen size, s-pen, quality software and dev support. No other phone has those requirements at the moment. And obviously it can stand up wit the other top tier phone around. It becomes a matter of preference and necessity so its totally up to you.
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Not all sg3 have 2GB of ram btw.
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Which one doesn't? That's a bummer if so and that makes the sg3 just an upgrade of apps to the sg2. Where's the hardware upgrades?
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The international model has 1 GB of ram but a quad core processor.
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XDA is no longer worth my time.
Stock stuff to work again? CM10 is closest to stock you're going to see. Touchwiz BS isn't stock LOL.
S-Pen
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Its to argue against the sg3. It has 2gb of ram and thats pretty much the difference. Its always gonna seem a bit zippy in comparison. I like my note for screen size, s-pen, quality software and dev support. No other phone has those requirements at the moment. And obviously it can stand up wit the other top tier phone around. It becomes a matter of preference and necessity so its totally up to you.
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Im still running stock ICS, rooted, and cleaned of junk apps, and Im happy with it. I use the S-Pen with S-Notes all the time. I know there's no S-Notes support on CM9, so what do you guys use as an alternative?
Gnote, memo, Sketchbook, papyrus. All in the play store.
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I own a note sgs3 sgs3 and sgs. The note seemed a little bit slower then my s3. But all I use my note for is around the house.
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Get on CM10 not CM9 thats oldschool.
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but is there any JB rom that's non CM-ish?(meaning not aosp akop etc)
no regular jelly bean lol?
reason i say that is because stuff like visual voice mail and other programs just won't work properly on those types of roms