Hello,
Does the EVO 3D support the USB Host ?
Does the DSLR controller work on it ?
https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.dslrcontroller
Thanx for reply
I believe this is for tablets devices
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on the video, it seems to be a phone ...
I started a thread about this a while back and never got a response.
Supposedly starting with Honeycomb, android is supposed to have native USB support. But no one was able to confirm whether the Evo 3D had the hardware to support it - so I'm not sure if that's something I can look forward to at some point.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
I started a thread about this a while back and never got a response.
Supposedly starting with Honeycomb, android is supposed to have native USB support. But no one was able to confirm whether the Evo 3D had the hardware to support it - so I'm not sure if that's something I can look forward to at some point.
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Qualcomm's MSM8660(S3) SoC does in fact offer USB 2.0 High Speed OTG (480Mbps), but i can not conform if the EVO 3D has the hardware to utilize it or if ICS will bring USB embedded host.
http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/specs
This would be really cool it have on the evo 3d ... Anyway to find out more about this or talk to a dev, let me do some searching
AFAIK it will be coming to the phone in Ice Cream Sandwich.
I have a host cable on in the mail now. It should be here by Thursday, and I'll give it a try.
From the looks of it, it's tablet-only. The device compatibility list on the Android market website shows it is compatible with my Acer A500 and Samsung Galaxy Tab, but not my Liquid E or EVO 3D.
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I have a Xoom running Tiamat Hammerhead and USB OTG is very handy indeed. Just for the hell of it, I tried the cable on my EVO 3D with a thumb drive and it didn't recognize it at all. As someone stated above, I believe this functionality will come to phones with ICS.
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Craysh said:
AFAIK it will be coming to the phone in Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Is this true? So, any phone that can update to Ice Cream Sandwich later on when it release will have USB OTG? No constraint on Hardware side, only on kernel changes?
Has anyone with a custom ROM managed to get USB OTG to work? I know the rumor was that Ice Cream Sandwich would enable this, but I know some experimental ICS ROM's have been floating out there.
I'd love to find out if any Evo 3D Roms can get USB OTG to work.
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I have read that the bluetooth stack is not same as og evo. I am curious if anyone had info on this. If it its true it might and I stress might allow us to use bt devices such as wii or ps3 controllers. Now with full hdmi mirroring this could make for the ultimate gaming phone for those into emulation. What are ur thoughts?
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I have read that the bluetooth stack is not same as og evo. I am curious if anyone had info on this. If it its true it might and I stress might allow us to use bt devices such as wii or ps3 controllers. Now with full hdmi mirroring this could make for the ultimate gaming phone for those into emulation. What are ur thoughts?
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Sheer joy, if it's true.
Any knowledge or opinions would be much appreciated.
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i use a wiimote on my evo4g now. Just have to run an AOSP rom not SENSE.
I love the idea of emulating from my phone like I do now, playing Final Fantasy 3/6, 7, Tactics with a wiimote is already epic on the phone, couldn't imagine on a huge TV so easily now too. I ned a tv worth it though.
I have not found any custom roms I trust enough to void my warranty for. I have ran cm6 and cm7 and I did like them but as many phones as I have went through especially my hero last year ill stick with stock sense and hope evo 3d will allow such bt devices such as wii or ps3 remotes to work
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what does the thread title and the OP have to do with each other?
The Evo 4G supports bluetooth profiles like A2DP for wireless stereo headsets, and FTP and OPP (object push) for file transfers. But when it comes to connecting an interface device, it does not support bluetooth HID (human interface device) profiles. It only supports SPP (serial port protocal).
Which is why things like the MSI BGP100, and the FreedomPro Keyboard work with it. Both of these devices use SPP bluetooth profiles. Drivers were created and released in the market, and a stock Evo 4G can connect to these.
Everyone blamed the HTC Sense interface for why we couldn't connect HID devices, (Wii Mote, and several keyboards, mice, etc). Which is why the OP mentions Sense 3D, because he still thinks it was sense that did it. It wasn't actually Sense that did it. HTC just never built bluetooth HID profiles into the phone.
AOSP roms don't have sense, but they are also built from ground 0, so they have HID profiles built into them. A lot of people have mistakenly thought that it was taking Sense completely out, that brought bluetooth HID back in, but it was really just coincidence.
For example, iPhones don't come with HID profiles, but someone in Cydia released an app that alters the bluetooth stack for you, and adds additional profiles. Theoretically, someone could have done this for the Evo 4G, but no one has yet.
That being said, I have seen several sites, including HTC's own, showing bluetooth HID under the specs for the Evo 3D. This isn't something I was ever able to find for the Evo 4G.
Don't quote me on it, but I am banking on all the WiiMote apps, bluetooth keyboard apps, and any other bluetooth input device, working properly with the Evo 3D right out of the box.
Thank you bradley. that is exactly what I was curious about. u answered my question and educated me at same time. that was much appreciated.
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Thank you bradley. that is exactly what I was curious about. u answered my question and educated me at same time. that was much appreciated.
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No problem. If you get a chance, hit my thanks button.
There was some speculation after the initial announcement that the evo 3d's bluetooth stack would support bluetooth hid and hence wiimotes. I looked at htc's site and don't see hid support mentioned. This is very important to me especially in the light that we may not be able to put cm7, which has a fully functional bluetooth stack, on the evo 3d.
Is there any way to tell from any of the system dumps if the evo 3d supports hid?
Anyone comment? I had originally seen something showing it did have it, on HTC's own site, but it has since been taken down.
It's a dealbreaker for me.
Who knows if this site has their facts straight, but it's shown here with BT HID. http://www.phonerated.com/cell-phone.php?phone=htc+evo+3d
I wonder what the problem is!?
Is this fixable by going AOSP route?
Or Honeycomb?
Or do we have to wait for icecream sandwich... it's just sad what a downgrade in usability features e3d is from the evo og.
willfck4beer said:
I wonder what the problem is!?
Is this fixable by going AOSP route?
Or Honeycomb?
Or do we have to wait for icecream sandwich... it's just sad what a downgrade in usability features e3d is from the evo og.
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The og evo didn't support wiimotes out of the box either. Wiimotes would work on cm6/7 and possibly other aosp roms as well. Htc is still using a crippled bluetooth stack on the evo 3d. Once cm7 is released for the 3d I'm sure it will support wiimotes though.
ian928 said:
The og evo didn't support wiimotes out of the box either. Wiimotes would work on cm6/7 and possibly other aosp roms as well. Htc is still using a crippled bluetooth stack on the evo 3d. Once cm7 is released for the 3d I'm sure it will support wiimotes though.
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HTC BlueZ bluetooth stack won't even work with cars that have BT 2.x, ie, all cars older than 2010.
Basically, I want to connect a Microsoft webcam to my SGP 4.0, and probably using a custom made .apk, just record the video from the webcam. No preview display or anything.
My plan so far is to wait until TeamSuperNova finishes their ICS for the 4.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712668
And I already have the webcam and I ordered a USB host-mode cable from Amazon (not sure if I would still need that with ICS though).
So the plan is to connect the webcam to the 4.0 with the cable, but I'm just curious if you guys think it'll work, or if any experiments have already been done in this field. I have seen the video of a webcam running on the Nexus, but I really dont care about a preview, just recording. Imagine the most ghetto Go-Pro possible, that's what I'm shooting for.
Thanks guys
no suggestions/ tips/ etc?
Frogman9 said:
no suggestions/ tips/ etc?
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Make sure you can get it working with desktop Linux. That'll give you the added benefit of knowing what driver it needs. From there you can find/port a program that'll read your /dev/video* devices, something like gstreamer, ffmpeg, mencoder, or an Andriod app.
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Make sure you can get it working with desktop Linux. That'll give you the added benefit of knowing what driver it needs. From there you can find/port a program that'll read your /dev/video* devices, something like gstreamer, ffmpeg, mencoder, or an Andriod app.
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thanks for the help bro, also, why do i need a linux system? how does that show me what driver it uses?
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thanks for the help bro, also, why do i need a linux system? how does that show me what driver it uses?
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Because Android is a Linux system, though the userspace is mostly different. You don't necessarily need to have a Linux system, but I imagine it'd be harder to do Android work on another system. Though chances are good that you'd be able to do it on another kind of UNIX, such as Mac OS X being the most popular.
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Because Android is a Linux system, though the userspace is mostly different. You don't necessarily need to have a Linux system, but I imagine it'd be harder to do Android work on another system. Though chances are good that you'd be able to do it on another kind of UNIX, such as Mac OS X being the most popular.
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okay, this makes sense, but what about using eclipse? that can handle android development and all, so would i be able to determine the driver using windows/ eclipse? and also do those terminal commands and such you also posted?
ps: sorry for my ignorance, the best ive done in android so far is a fallout soundboard....
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Basically, I want to connect a Microsoft webcam to my SGP 4.0, and probably using a custom made .apk, just record the video from the webcam. No preview display or anything.
My plan so far is to wait until TeamSuperNova finishes their ICS for the 4.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712668
And I already have the webcam and I ordered a USB host-mode cable from Amazon (not sure if I would still need that with ICS though).
So the plan is to connect the webcam to the 4.0 with the cable, but I'm just curious if you guys think it'll work, or if any experiments have already been done in this field. I have seen the video of a webcam running on the Nexus, but I really dont care about a preview, just recording. Imagine the most ghetto Go-Pro possible, that's what I'm shooting for.
Thanks guys
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I bought a USB OTG cable for my Nexus and it worked perfectly. I then tried it on my 5.0 and it didn't work. I think USB host mode is not compatible with the player range (the 5.0 anyway) as the micro USB port is not powered. But who knows, maybe it works on the 4.0
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Frogman9 said:
okay, this makes sense, but what about using eclipse? that can handle android development and all, so would i be able to determine the driver using windows/ eclipse? and also do those terminal commands and such you also posted?
ps: sorry for my ignorance, the best ive done in android so far is a fallout soundboard....
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You can find out what driver you need (if it exists) from the camera's datasheet and some Googling. If you want to test it on a more well known platform before you test it on the device, that platform would be an x86_64 linux. It's just a good refernce is all, and would come in handy in case the plug and pray method doesn't work.
Those commands only coincidentally take the name of their project, of which I was referring. See:
* http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/
* http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html
* http://ffmpeg.org/
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I bought a USB OTG cable for my Nexus and it worked perfectly. I then tried it on my 5.0 and it didn't work. I think USB host mode is not compatible with the player range (the 5.0 anyway) as the micro USB port is not powered. But who knows, maybe it works on the 4.0
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yeah i got the OTG cable too, and it didnt work with the 4.0, but I believe thats because its not getting powered due to the 4.0 not having true 4.0 host mode, which powers the usb, so either i splice in the required 3-5v in the usb line or i wait for Team SuperNova to complete their port of CM9 (4.0.4) for my player (the 5.0 actually already has it so you should be good to go).
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yeah i got the OTG cable too, and it didnt work with the 4.0, but I believe thats because its not getting powered due to the 4.0 not having true 4.0 host mode, which powers the usb, so either i splice in the required 3-5v in the usb line or i wait for Team SuperNova to complete their port of CM9 (4.0.4) for my player (the 5.0 actually already has it so you should be good to go).
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I tried it on my 5.0 running my CM9 rom, but no luck. I'm not sure if the player series supports USB Host seeing as the GT-I9000 does not have this feature. As far as I'm aware, USB Host started appearing on devices in the same generation as the GT-I9100 so about a year later.
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USB Host appears to be a kernel feature:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-gains-usb-host-functionality/
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I tried it on my 5.0 running my CM9 rom, but no luck. I'm not sure if the player series supports USB Host seeing as the GT-I9000 does not have this feature. As far as I'm aware, USB Host started appearing on devices in the same generation as the GT-I9100 so about a year later.
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USB Host appears to be a kernel feature:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-gains-usb-host-functionality/
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damn, i wonder if we need usb host mode, i mean if its powered externally with 3-5v, and then the proper drivers are installed in a custom app, wouldnt we be able to at least display what the camera sees?
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damn, i wonder if we need usb host mode, i mean if its powered externally with 3-5v, and then the proper drivers are installed in a custom app, wouldnt we be able to at least display what the camera sees?
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kinda a side question, but do you guys think this app would work with a galaxy player 4.0?http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22884164&postcount=3
i dont know much about android, but as far as i know, as long as its android, it might be able to run, right? does the transformer use jellybean? < thats probably where my idea would fall flat if it does...
Right now, I'm using an HTC EVO 4G LTE, running ICS. Now the source code is out, however, no one has yet to add USB host capabilities to their kernel, so I figure I might as well do it myself. I read on kernel development, and I have a surface level understanding, but I'm just interested in adding the USB host capabilities. So how would I go about doing that? Thanks.
IIRC ICS should have OTG that works for keyboard and mouse. Of course the microUSB port on your phone needs to have the hardware to support OTG and also may or may not supply power.
Yeah, the hardware on the EVO supports it, it's just that HTC never enables it in their kernel.
Hi,
does anybody know, whether USB OTG is supported by Desire X? I assume it is not supported by the stock system, but can I expect the support to be added by some custom system?
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Stepan
I don't want to make myself an idiot, but, what's USB OTG?
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Stereo8 said:
I don't want to make myself an idiot, but, what's USB OTG?
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It stands for USB on the go. It is the ability of the phone to act as USB host. So that you can connect a USB flash drive, keyboard, or mouse... to the phone.
There is an app in Google Play that allows to check your phone's capability of USB OTG or USB Host Mode, but I couIdn't test it with my Desire X, because I don't have any USB peripherals with a micro-usb connector. The app only says there are "classes" found (don't ask me what that means) that seem to support it. I couldn't see anything in the manual about it either.
The One X doesn't even have USB OTG with the kernel it uses now, but they might enable it in a future kernel update (read that somewhere).
Your best bet is to contact HTC support and ask them straight out.
I tested the app.
The Kernel is not supporting USB Hosting. (It`s only a Software issue, i think)
Hopefully the update will bring this feature.
S4 Play on MSM8225 doesn't support OTG. Just go on Qualcomm site and you can see it.
A bit late....
Hahaha I am a bit late on this one, but all aspects of USB OTG are functional on the Desire X w/ stock and some custom roms. This includes storage, keyboard/mouse, gamepads and much much more. Works flawlessly, and better than the Nexus 7 2013 on Stock can manage (no usb storage support!) One of the reasons I switched to CM 11 on my Nexus.
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Hahaha I am a bit late on this one, but all aspects of USB OTG are functional on the Desire X w/ stock and some custom roms. This includes storage, keyboard/mouse, gamepads and much much more. Works flawlessly, and better than the Nexus 7 2013 on Stock can manage (no usb storage support!) One of the reasons I switched to CM 11 on my Nexus.
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The thing is, USB OTG works only from Android version 4.1 and newer. 4.0 has no OTG support.
dansou901 said:
The thing is, USB OTG works only from Android version 4.1 and newer. 4.0 has no OTG support.
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Yeah, I forgot to mention that :silly:
How come when I try to connect a ps3 controller it doesn't work but USB storage does work.
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filipcar said:
How come when I try to connect a ps3 controller it doesn't work but USB storage does work.
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I think that you dont have the drivers.
Google it.