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I like the Flyer - I really do. Along with the pen it is a "working man's tablet" second to none. There is only ONE thing keeping me from buying one.
THE PRICE.
When you add the price of the tablet with the pen, you are looking at almost $600 for a single-core tablet. I can pick up an sweet Asus Transformer for $399.00. The $499.00 price tag (and charging extra for the pen) is just NUTS given the competition. At $399.00 (pen included) they would sell 3 times as many of these (if not more).
C'mon HTC, wake up and smell the competition.
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At $399.00 (pen included) they would sell 3 times as many of these (if not more).
C'mon HTC, wake up and smell the competition.
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Yup, that's exactly my price point, too.
The only thing to consider is that Best Buy will sell you the Flyer on an 18 month, no-interest payment schedule if you want. I may go that path if I get impatient. Also, get the Fujitsu sylus that works with the Flyer. B&H has it for $25.00 shipped:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/772804-REG/Fujitsu_FPCPN36AP_Extra_Stylus_for_Fujitsu_s.html
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I understand why many people feel the flyer is expensive. Consider the following reason and think again:
1. HTC Flyer is the only Tablet that has a digitizer on it. The usage is unlimited. The problem is that many android lovers are not developing. We are only "MODing". Creating custom ROMs, etc. I you know what that digitizer can do, in terms of application you will know that having a Flyer is worth all the penny spent.
2. Bestbuy now sells the Flyer to you with the HTC Pen. Just tell them you want the HTC before you pay. Tell them the HTC pen must be included.
3. If you have a working laptop or tablet, you can trade it in at Bestbuy to reduce the cost of any device you buy from Bestbuy.
4. You need to try out the Note app with voice recording on the Flyer. The recording is extremely loud. And also, it is synced with EverNotes.
5. If the Flyer meets your needs, go for it. If not, don't go for it.
There used to be a promotion going on where the pen was free. Just tell them that you weren't available to buy the Flyer when the promotion was going on. They gave me a free pen.
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I like the Flyer - I really do. Along with the pen it is a "working man's tablet" second to none. There is only ONE thing keeping me from buying one.
THE PRICE.
When you add the price of the tablet with the pen, you are looking at almost $600 for a single-core tablet. I can pick up an sweet Asus Transformer for $399.00. The $499.00 price tag (and charging extra for the pen) is just NUTS given the competition. At $399.00 (pen included) they would sell 3 times as many of these (if not more).
C'mon HTC, wake up and smell the competition.
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The price point kind of makes it not really a "working man's tablet", does it not? I'm just joking, just thought it was funny thinking of some carpenter sitting there messing around with his little flyer.
1. Pen is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overpriced. That is the truth. I got the view and it came with the pen. Had it not, I wouldn't even consider buying it. I know, that the pen is the single most different thing about the tablet, but in all honestly nobody wants to write on a screen until it feels like pen and paper. Apple knew this, that's why they were the first people to realize that a tablet shouldn't be like the older PC's that could be flipped around and used a stylus on. Apple knows what the AVERAGE consumer wants.
2. Single-core, duo-core, quad-core all that crap, just doesn't need to be focused on nearly as much as people think. The real proof is in the pudding. The thing runs fine, and unless you REALLY plan on seriously playing 3D games what does it matter? Everyone is so obsessed with having the most powerful processor, or best video processing... How much time do you actually spend playing those high demanding games? Maybe 1% of your usage of the tablet? And it's not even that the tablet can't play them, it's just that it won't be as FAST as some crazy tegra 2 thing.
3. The thing is awesome for what it is. I walked into a best buy the other day (just to pick up a 40$ bt dongle I needed for a few days, then I returned it, I'm not a sucker) and was tooling about with two other 7" tabs (the fujitsu and some other one) and they were pretty much garbage. They ran like 100$ cheaper. Over the 1-2 year lifetime of my tablet, 100$ is very little. Especially for a device I use so often...
Anyway, sorry about the long post.
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1. Pen is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overpriced. That is the truth. I got the view and it came with the pen. Had it not, I wouldn't even consider buying it. I know, that the pen is the single most different thing about the tablet, but in all honestly nobody wants to write on a screen until it feels like pen and paper. Apple knew this, that's why they were the first people to realize that a tablet shouldn't be like the older PC's that could be flipped around and used a stylus on. Apple knows what the AVERAGE consumer wants.
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I sorta disagree. Not that the pen is overpriced (I'm in full agreement with that statement) but that no one wants to write on a screen 'till it feels like paper. I've played with the Flyer/pen combo in BestBuy, and I want it so bad it hurts, LOL!
Seriously, if not for the pen I'd see no reason to trade for my Nook Color. But the pen turns a Flyer into a viable productivity tool. I can totally see myself taking it with me to meetings or when I have to meet with a supervisor and taking notes.
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I sorta disagree. Not that the pen is overpriced (I'm in full agreement with that statement) but that no one wants to write on a screen 'till it feels like paper. I've played with the Flyer/pen combo in BestBuy, and I want it so bad it hurts, LOL!
Seriously, if not for the pen I'd see no reason to trade for my Nook Color. But the pen turns a Flyer into a viable productivity tool. I can totally see myself taking it with me to meetings or when I have to meet with a supervisor and taking notes.
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You need a Flyer.
I've paid 1000$ to buy it. It deserves because Im using every single option included.
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I sorta disagree. Not that the pen is overpriced (I'm in full agreement with that statement) but that no one wants to write on a screen 'till it feels like paper. I've played with the Flyer/pen combo in BestBuy, and I want it so bad it hurts, LOL!
Seriously, if not for the pen I'd see no reason to trade for my Nook Color. But the pen turns a Flyer into a viable productivity tool. I can totally see myself taking it with me to meetings or when I have to meet with a supervisor and taking notes.
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Prepared to be disappointed.
When you write with a stylus on a tablet (not just the flyer/view but also on all the "convertables" running xp from back in the day) it has lag. You end up writing at 80% speed just from the lag. Add in the fact that you are writing on a tiny surface with a low resolution mark means you can fit all of a sentence and a half on one screen (and that's really being generous).
The notes also lack any of the cool features of onenote. Can't copy and paste a section. It is rather tiresome.
The only really useful thing I think the stylus can add is if you are signing a lot of .pdf's or something.
I major in math and economics and HOPED that I might be able to take notes on the view (I tried this on an older 10" xp tablet a while ago) and was very disappointed.
1. When you record the lecture and write, what the person is saying is drowned out by the clacking of your stylus on the screen.
2. HTC has made 0 improvements on the accuracy and the delay of the writing coming from the stylus. Quite disappointing.
BUT it does all come down to preference. Maybe you are find with these shortcomings in light of the brand new ability to actually write on the thing, which I agree is just plain cool.
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Prepared to be disappointed.
When you write with a stylus on a tablet (not just the flyer/view but also on all the "convertables" running xp from back in the day) it has lag. You end up writing at 80% speed just from the lag. Add in the fact that you are writing on a tiny surface with a low resolution mark means you can fit all of a sentence and a half on one screen (and that's really being generous).
The notes also lack any of the cool features of onenote. Can't copy and paste a section. It is rather tiresome.
The only really useful thing I think the stylus can add is if you are signing a lot of .pdf's or something.
I major in math and economics and HOPED that I might be able to take notes on the view (I tried this on an older 10" xp tablet a while ago) and was very disappointed.
1. When you record the lecture and write, what the person is saying is drowned out by the clacking of your stylus on the screen.
2. HTC has made 0 improvements on the accuracy and the delay of the writing coming from the stylus. Quite disappointing.
BUT it does all come down to preference. Maybe you are find with these shortcomings in light of the brand new ability to actually write on the thing, which I agree is just plain cool.
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Not disappointed at all. This is your personal point of view. I dont agree with you. The pen is accurate fast and u can use it to write notes (like the physical yellow notes) certainly you will not use it to write the human history!
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I agree, though I do not use it at all (even I have enabled the phone features in it s-off), you pay for quality and performance. Another think I like about HTC (I use them from almost 7 years), is the battery. It will last very long...
If anybody interested, I live in Canada and I will be selling it. Let someone enjoy it...
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1. When you record the lecture and write, what the person is saying is drowned out by the clacking of your stylus on the screen.
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Oh, I wouldn't use it to take notes at a lecture. For that it would be inadequate, I agree. But based on my experience playing with it in Best Buy, it should be more than adequate for jotting down a few instructions, perhaps a quick diagram or two.
Many tablets, including the Transformer and Galaxy Tab, have cheap plastic bodies. They don't match the sturdiness, look and feel of the Flyer's aluminum body.
When you consider that, the digitizer for the pen (as already mentioned), and maybe other things, it might be that the Flyer costs more to manufacture, and HTC cannot actually afford to charge less and still maintain a decent margin.
Also, the single core 1.5 GHz CPU is actually faster at most things then the dual core tablets (most of which are 1 GHz). Most applications do not support dual core CPU's yet, so its the raw processing clock speed of one core that counts. The dual core comes into play when multi-tasking, such as running processes in the background and switching between apps. If you compare the Flyer to other tablets, you will find the Flyer is actually snappier and smoother most the time. Honeycomb is inherently laggy at this time, and that's partially to blame. But the single core CPU is part of it, too.
I have to agree that it is a bit expensive but it meets my requirements and I use it all day.
I use Notes in all of my meetings or just to jot things down while walking around campus.
It is nowhere near the feature rich MS OneNote but I hope the next version (if there will be one) incorporates some.
As for speed, I don't see a delay when writing.
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It's expensive cause it's good build quality and it's new. Flyer's hard ware is really good: beautiful screen + ntrig digitizer, 1GB ram, Al body,... And HTC has to pay other companies for patent fees, about $50/smart phone. In addition, mobile device market is so HOT now. Remember that the Galaxy tab was also very expensive when it was released. I think we pay most of that money for things we can't see which related to R&D, marketing,... Chinese stuffs are cheap cause they don't pay for those things and they are crap(py).
However from inking point of view, with the "magic" pen, the Flyer is the best in market right now (do not consider Windows devices which are bulky and power hungry). But at the end, thinking about $500-700 laptops, we are definitely overcharged for Flyers. Still love them though.
Don't forget Sense. I think they put a considerable amount of time and money into Sense to make HTC devices distinguishable.
I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but I think the average consumer likes the clean look, and you can only get Sense with HTC, so they can charge more.
I sometimes think it is wise that HTC spends so much time on their UI because that's what the consumer notices.
damn Dollar... i paid 650€ (Germany)for mine -> 950$ ... early adopter
What is wrong with American electronics prices?
Everyting half the price, as else where in the world.
But... still complaing
Maybe its the sign, for a drowning America... low prices are a result of peoples earnings and how much they can afford...
Looks like, they cant afford average world market prices anymore
So before you complain, compare world prices... thank the Germans, Russians Indonesians, Polish, Hispanics, Canadians... even guys in India and Africa that they can afford to subsidy your low priced gadgets through their up to 3 times higher prices... (worst is Dell/Alienware)
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But... still complaing
Maybe its the sign, for a drowning America... low prices are a result of peoples earnings and how much they can afford...
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Gosh I don't really think so. I think its because things have ALWAYS been cheaper here than overseas. It might also depend on sales volume. There are a lot of people in the US vs some European countries. It perhaps cheaper to market/sell products here vs some more bureaucratic nations. But thats just my guess.
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Thank the Germans, Russians Indonesians, Polish, Hispanics, Canadians... even guys in India and Africa that they can afford to subsidy your low priced gadgets through their up to 3 times higher prices... (worst is Dell/Alienware)
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So TRUE. And check the oil price, price of almost everything too (of course we have a bit higher tax here in Europe).
The whole world (especially developing countries) is "subsidizing" the US market. Not so much for us in Europe. But we are "trying hard" now to have subsidy from Africa, Asia, Middle East. LOL.
It is cheaper to ship in the U.S. because fuel prices are lower than Europe. We still produce much of our own fuel. Taxes are lower in the U.S.. The number of consumers with disposable income is higher in the U.S.. The highway infrastructure in the U.S. is better than most European countries.
Sum that all up and we get cheaper prices on most consumer goods.
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Hi,
I bought this Sony Tablet S last weekend with the idea that I would try it and return it. I also bought a Motorola Xoom with the same intentions. I wasn't really able to try the Tablet S because everytime I picked up the device in the store the anti-theft alarm would sound. The salesperson reluctantly admitted I could take it back if I didn't like it, I usually don't this kind of thing as I prefer to wait and buy online cheaper.
Anyways it's been a week. My heart was set on getting an Xoom, I like Motorola but the screen quality... I don't want one even though I found two used for $300 with accessories.
So on to the Tablet S... I kept going back and forth on it. My biggest gripe is that this will be worth $200 in a year and it may even be completely out of date as Tablets mature.
The things I like about it:
- Durable! I plan on having this in my bedroom, I can fall asleep with it in the bed and I highly doubt I'd break it. Same for carrying it around the house, it doesn't need any kind of case.
- The Shape. It is decent to hold and it really does work well at a table. The angle makes viewing and typing a lot better.
- It's a Sony. I like Sony, I just hope they actually support this device unlike that piece of junk Sony Dash I foolishly bought last year.
- The remote feature. It's not near as advanced as I would like but the software is "Version 1.0". I'm hoping it progresses and becomes more advanced with "activities". I don't mind the layout at all, I think the buttons look good. The one thing I find is that it could be faster in switching between devices.
- The screen. I like that it's 9.4" as this gives you more pixels per inch than a 10.1" display resulting in a sharper image. The viewing angles are good, but I have to admit.. I do wish Sony put an even better quality screen in. I don't think I would want to read a book on this device. By the way the 9.4" screen is easier to reach with your fingers but it's less appealing to the eyes, that extra 1/2" does make a difference in screen "real estate".
- I like the charge system. I don't have a dock yet, it's ordered but I like the fact it just drops in and easily lifts out. I could see all the other tablets docks requiring more effort to align and slide in/out of their respective docks.
- The Sony tweaks to the Android OS. I like them, I just hope it's not a drawback... waiting for Sony each time a new version is available.
- The Sony games. I don't game much anymore but it's a welcome addition for me.
- The HD Remote. Man, I wish I waited six more months before buying my XBR-LX900. This years models seem to have a better integration with this tablet.
- I like the fact that it's user serviceable. The battery can be changed and a 3G/4G card can be inserted.
What I don't like:
- The screen. Another 1/2" would be more visually appealing. The colors could pop more and I wish it was better on the eyes for reading. One day I suppose, for now I'll be keeping my Sony eReader.
- It's looks. At times I like the way it looks, at other times... I think it looks / feels cheap. But mind you, it's very durable the way it is. I wouldn't hesitate to allow a child to play with it.
- The price. Way over-priced for what it is! I suppose all tablets are though, but at least Motorola has style. I like the looks and feel of the Motorola build much better.
- Weight... it is a touch heavy even though this is suppose to be one of the lighter tablets. Just imagine in five years the tablets we will have?
- The charge cord. If you don't use a dock (which should come with it!!!) that charge cord is going to break.
- And again lastly.. this isn't really a knock on Sony but I honestly feel it's too early to spend this kind of money on this types of hardware. Tablets are in their infancy, none of them are worth what we are paying for them. Honestly I think most tablets really should be priced at $199 or $299 for what they are. $499 is just.... too much money for what it is.
Anyways for me, I've decided to keep the Tablet S even though I know I will regret it in six months. I need a new alarm clock, I'd like to be able to convienantly check things from my bedroom and I would like to experiment with Android... so here I am.
I see the Tablet S as having a long life with me for it's simple durability. I don't have to baby it, it'll serve well for what it is. A portable household browser / email device. I don't think of this Tablet as something you would take out with you. For that I will mostly likely get a second or third generation Motorola.
I am also a proud owner of the Sony Tablet. This review is very well said.. can't disagree.. you should post this review in sites like Amazon.
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dberladyn said:
So on to the Tablet S... I kept going back and forth on it. My biggest gripe is that this will be worth $200 in a year and it may even be completely out of date as Tablets mature.
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This unfortunately is always the case with tech, once the Kal-El (quad core Tegras) come out you'll see price drops on the dual core ones. Doesnt mean your tablet is going to become useless though just you wont be state of the art anymore
- The screen. I like that it's 9.4" as this gives you more pixels per inch than a 10.1" display resulting in a sharper image. The viewing angles are good, but I have to admit.. I do wish Sony put an even better quality screen in. I don't think I would want to read a book on this device. By the way the 9.4" screen is easier to reach with your fingers but it's less appealing to the eyes, that extra 1/2" does make a difference in screen "real estate".
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Really? I absolutely love reading on my S tab, the display is sharp and clear.
- The screen. Another 1/2" would be more visually appealing. The colors could pop more and I wish it was better on the eyes for reading. One day I suppose, for now I'll be keeping my Sony eReader.
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I agree on this, wish the colors did pop a bit more something in between S tablet and Galaxy would have been nice. And yeah the thing I hate most is the charging connector, everytime I plug it in I feel like its going to break. Guess Ill have to buy a dock as well.
Yeah I agree, it's totally overpriced, the cost of the case is ridiculous too... but, that's Sony for ya.
I also have a wifi Xoom and think it's a piece of junk compared to the S, and most other HC tablets out there. It's laggy and the screen is so washed out and bland. The Sony S flips through screens so smoothly, gives a nice tablet experience.
Damn... my country still haven't release Sony Tablet S... ARGHH!!!.... my don't they just do global release...
Yeah Sony product is expensive but GOODD!!!
tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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Dude. Enough with the jetsream already! Its all you talk about. No offense. But go get a jetstream, and post in their forums.
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Maedhros said:
tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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The Jetstream blows.
I've been researching Tablets and i must be able to write notes with ease. I've read the best stylus is the Jot Pro which i've gone and purchased. I've also read that writing with a active digitizer is the best for taking hand notes.
i've yet to read about "active digitizer" in any of the specs for the TP so i was wondering how it would compair to a active digitizer screen? Also to what degree would it be better or worse?
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I've been researching Tablets and i must be able to write notes with ease. I've read the best stylus is the Jot Pro which i've gone and purchased. I've also read that writing with a active digitizer is the best for taking hand notes.
i've yet to read about "active digitizer" in any of the specs for the TP so i was wondering how it would compair to a active digitizer screen? Also to what degree would it be better or worse?
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Trust me, if you put conductive grease in your jot ball, you won't see any difference between using that on the TF or TFP and a tablet with digitizer.
Active digitizer has pressure sensitivity. Although it can be... less precise than Adonit (because some active digitizers are innacurate when holded on different angles).
Unfortunetaly Transformer doesn't have one. Adonit was supposed to show active digitizer for all tablets on CES. I wonder what they will make.
Thanks. I ask because i was watching a video smackdown between the TFP vs. Motorola Droid XYBoard and she specifically made a point that Active Digitizer screens are better for note taking.
She did not mention how much better these screens are and with all the people here saying the Jot Pro is amazing with the TFP, it can't be that much better.
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Thanks. I ask because i was watching a video smackdown between the TFP vs. Motorola Droid XYBoard and she specifically made a point that Active Digitizer screens are better for note taking.
She did not mention how much better these screens are and with all the people here saying the Jot Pro is amazing with the TFP, it can't be that much better.
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I know what video you're talking about. Reviewers are not gods. They know a lot of official stuff, but they don't know **** about real life stuff. Most reviewers still say the ipad2 is much much much better than the tf. The tf has been out for how long? Most reviewers still criticize the tf keyboard for not being able to disable the touchpad. Hint, its a shortkey on top somewhere.
Reviewers are good at giving you first impressions. But they suck at telling you about real life applications.
If you'd rather put your trust in reviewers, then you should get a motor xyboard. I'm telling you from real life experience. You won't notice a difference.
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I know what video you're talking about. Reviewers are not gods. They know a lot of official stuff, but they don't know **** about real life stuff. Most reviewers still say the ipad2 is much much much better than the tf. The tf has been out for how long? Most reviewers still criticize the tf keyboard for not being able to disable the touchpad. Hint, its a shortkey on top somewhere.
Reviewers are good at giving you first impressions. But they suck at telling you about real life applications.
If you'd rather put your trust in reviewers, then you should get a motor xyboard. I'm telling you from real life experience. You won't notice a difference.
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Wonderful. I really didn't read to much into it. I watch/read to get a good overview per say. As someone with zero experience with tablets that is why i come here, to the people with them, to ask these questions not answered in these reviews.
Thanks again
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Wonderful. I really didn't read to much into it. I watch/read to get a good overview per say. As someone with zero experience with tablets that is why i come here, to the people with them, to ask these questions not answered in these reviews.
Thanks again
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Yeah, people tend to trust those with authority these days. Somewhere along the line, people lost their trust in real life experience.
Take my g/f's dad, for example. His win7 computer stopped animating the windows when he move them around. It bothered him so much that he called in a geek squad guy. The geek squad guy said there was nothing he could do but reinstall win7 OS. Wanted to charge him $200 for it. My g/f and I happened to walk in at the time. My g/f told her dad to let me try fixing it. He hesitated (because I wasn't a geek squad... and geek squad knows everything, right?), and said sure why not. It took me a whole 2 minutes to fix his problem. All I did was went into the windows animation settings and reset the damn thing.
Think about it. He came this close to paying $200 for a geek squad know-it-all to re-install windows for a settings problem.
To this day, I still write to reviewers every time they got something wrong. What's disappointing is after I've written my lengthy correction, they still get it wrong in their next review. The TF keyboard is a perfect example. Back in May, reviewers were all criticizing the TF keyboard for not having the option to disable the touchpad. I promptly wrote to every one of them informing them of the 4th button from the left top row. The same reviewers are now *****ing about the prime keyboard not having the option to disable the touchpad. It seems like these guys picked up the TF, xoom, or whatever, used it for a whole 5 minutes, and then declare themselves experts of all things tablets. It's effing annoying as hell reading their reviews. They get so many things wrong!
In addition, most of the tech industry have been taken over by apple fanboys. Take a look at the following article written just a few days ago.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/01/ces-tablets-redemption/all/1
Notice that the transformer was not mentioned at all in that article. Instead, the writer pointed to all the failed tablets (xoom, touchpad, etc.) declaring them to be the only examples of non-ipad tablets. As a matter of fact, even as the prime is being rolled out, reviewers continue to ignore the asus TF/TFP. Despite the fact that the TF is now the most successful android tablet, reviewers still want to pretend like it doesn't exist and that the game really is about between the ipad2 and the xoom.
But I guess I'm just a nobody and they are reviewers so they must know everything there is to know about these devices.
Its called ignorance
So about taking notes with a pen like the JotPro, is it cool? I mean would you guys go into a semi important meeting with just the prime and no paper?
And is there a note taking app that lets you rest your hand on the tablet in any way while writing (some dedicated space would be fine i guess)?
->nevermind this, just found that in another thread:
(5) Writepad stylus - note taking app with palm rejection, meaning you can rest your hand on the screen and still be able to write. Can save your notes as pdf docs.
Had the jot pro, disliked it enough that I returned it this morning. Half of the time it missed the lines I was writing. I switched to a targus and it works much better. I think the JOt Pro has such a small surface that it just lost connectivity with the screen. I tested it on a screen with no protection on it btw. It probably would have been worse with a screen protector.
I have not found a note taking app that does good with hand rejection. I just use the hover above method.
That being said, I do only take the Prime to meetings, no paper, and take notes all the time. Works great.
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Trust me, if you put conductive grease in your jot ball, you won't see any difference between using that on the TF or TFP and a tablet with digitizer.
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I Googled "conductive grease" and found around 20 different options on the first page of websites plus the dude at bestbuy never herd of it. If you could give me a link to a product to look for that would be fantastic. By chance do you have a screen protector on your tablet?
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I Googled "conductive grease" and found around 20 different options on the first page of websites plus the dude at bestbuy never herd of it. If you could give me a link to a product to look for that would be fantastic. By chance do you have a screen protector on your tablet?
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(1) I just talked to the entire tablet department of bestbuy and none of them knew the tegra 3 had a 5th core.
(2) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BODU66/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
(3) I don't use a screen protector. Been using it since may. Not a single scratch on my screen. And I don't even have a sleeve for it.
So far it was easy to place the NT on the station. The station is very light weight. The station seems to be very adjustable (as advertised). Now to test the charging ability and the sound
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Okay so I've had it for a couple hours and I am impressed. What strikes the most is how such nice sound eminates from this light piece of equipment. I want to order a second one for work
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Link? what are you taking about?
It's the N-Station by Readerdock www.readerdock.com
I pre-ordered it back in March, received an e-mail on Thursday that it would be sent priority mail (Foc) and I rec'd it yesterday. I was worried because it felt so light in the box, but so far I am quite satisfied.
After having my Nook Tablet docking station for a full day, I can say I am still pleased! I really enjoy the sound quality. My NT has Team-B's CM7 rom on it, in addition to the Volume+ app, and the speakers sound great. I can't say how long it takes to get a full charge on the NT, but it is nice to grab my tablet and go knowing it is fully charged, despite my having using it for several hours. I would and have recommended it to friends and family!
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I ordered one of these last week.
It says this current round of orders will ship on May 25th or something like that.
I'm pretty excited. My plan is to use it with this: http://www.nextstepbabymonitors.com/video-baby-monitors/iphone-video-baby-monitor.htm, so that We have a cheap, large screen baby monitor to use in October.
My second plan is to take it on vacation with me for movies/shows, w/o the need of having to take my giant, dated laptop. How do you think it will fare w/ traveling? It probably doesn't get too compact, but that's something I can work around.
Is the speaker volume noticeably louder than the Nook's actual speaker?
Wow, that is a great idea! I love hearing the different ways people are using their NTs. It doesn't fold down too compactly, however, it came in a box about 2/3 the size of an adult shoe box. The sound is quite a bit louder and fuller than the nook alone. I'm sure you will like it (did I mention it weighs next to nothing).
Awesome idea AugustusBot, I haven't seen that camera before. Have you used one, is the quality good?
AugustusBot said:
I ordered one of these last week.
It says this current round of orders will ship on May 25th or something like that.
I'm pretty excited. My plan is to use it with this so that We have a cheap, large screen baby monitor to use in October.
My second plan is to take it on vacation with me for movies/shows, w/o the need of having to take my giant, dated laptop. How do you think it will fare w/ traveling? It probably doesn't get too compact, but that's something I can work around.
Is the speaker volume noticeably louder than the Nook's actual speaker?
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Save yourself some money and buy the foscam 8910 cameras directly from foscam or from buy.com. sometimes they have a 2 cam deal for 100 dollars. Then go to the maket place and download tinycam. We used this setip as a baby cam and haven't been disappointed.
Also congrats on the expecting.
draygo said:
Save yourself some money and buy the foscam 8910 cameras directly from foscam or from buy.com. sometimes they have a 2 cam deal for 100 dollars. Then go to the maket place and download tinycam. We used this setip as a baby cam and haven't been disappointed.
Also congrats on the expecting.
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Thanks for the reccomendation. Picked up 2 just now w/ some deal they're running for Fathers Day (coupon code FATHERSDAY at foscam.us), coupled w/ a Google Checkout coupon for $20 off $200 orders... got 2 for $165. The new ones, with wireless N.
http://slickdeals.net/f/4707930-Foscam-FI8910W-83-each-Father-days-sale?
ReaderDock Clearance
The ReaderDock N-Station for the Nook Color and Tablet is on clearance for $49.99
http://www.readerdock.com/index.php/docking-stations
So now that folks have had these for a while could someone let us know if this charges the nook at full speed or not? My second nook cable just died and it appears they're impossible to get through B&N now.
EDIT: Nevermind, I see it requires an original nook cable (presumable for charging and audio)... I think I found one on CL.
So I'm getting the AT&T G Note I in a couple of days from a rep that saved me from canceling 4 lines. I haven't been really checking into anything about the device because it wasn't on my radar at all. I recently got the SII Skyrocket and I'm pretty pleased with it, well, I was before the ICS update, but that's a whole other story.
As far as the Note I was wondering how many people do really use the S Pen, I use my stylus/keyboard almost exclusively on my tablet. I will admit that I have smaller hands and I have trouble with one-hand operation with the Skyrocket at times. I'm not a power texter though, I mostly surf, and will be doing a far bit of note taking for school and I tend to jot notes frequently in a small journal I keep in my purse. For my tablet (ASUS TF300) I use a Rocketfish stylus I got out the discount bin at Best Buy, and the only thing I don't like about it is not being able to draw fine lines, and a lot of times it gets in my way. However after trying out several others, I've decided that for about as much as I want to spend I have the best that I'm going to get. That brings about the second part of my question, my stylus has the heft, weight and fits in my hand like a really expensive fountain pen, so I've been wondering if I should pull the trigger on the S Pen holder kit, 60.00 ( have 50% off promo code though) at Samsung and 40 at Amazon. Both of which are quite expensive to me for something I'd probably lose. But since my right hand is still healing from 5 fractures, and I type all day for work, I'm usually in pain at the end of the day, and if I use the Note as much as I think I will the investment may be worth it. So I'd like to hear from heavy users of the Note, do you use your stylus a lot, and do you have or would get the stylus holder kit? If you use another that will work well with the S Pen apps, especially those for note taking I'd like to hear about those as well.
Welcome and hope your fractures heal soon. I've had my note for about 4 months now and really don't use the stylus that much. Others may have a different take. I do use a swype like keyboard which really cuts down on the typing aspect of things.
As for note taking, I am more of an emailer but there is an app called floating note (I think) that is really good. Handwriting notes on it is easy and it stays on top of your screen until you cancel it. Really well done and might be of assistance to you.
All in all, I would wait to plunk down the dollars for another stylus until you have used your note for a while to see if you even need another one.
Again, welcome to the Note section of XDA.
Thanks for the warm welcome. I think I'll do as you suggested try it out first then see if I'll need the pen kit.
The healing is going slow but I'm making progress, or so they say.
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Hello geekygirl!
I got the official Samsung S Pen holder thingy and find it to be too top heavy honestly. The lower half of it is all plastic while the top half is all metal. Makes it awkward to use in my opinion.
I will tell you that since the digitizer used on the Note is of the Wacom variety I've read (but have never tested) that MOST if not ALL Wacom pens will work with the Note. So you might want to look into getting a standard Wacom pen. It should be much cheaper, easier to handle, and you can always keep your S Pen in your Note so you'll never lose it.
As far as note taking goes I would say I have medium to large hands and I still haven't found a proper way to hold the Note comfortably enough to actually WRITE with it efficiently. Unless I feel like burning some time and just doodling little drawings here and there I rarely ever find myself actually using the S Pen functionality. Obviously this isn't the case for all. It's just that in my case, the 5.3" screen is amazing and sight to behold. Makes everything you do seem better and more awesome, however, I still find it too small to actually comfortably use for note taking and drawing. 7" screens are the smallest I can go to actually write and draw effectively. Considering your smaller hands though you might not find this to be the case.
Also using S Memo and S Note I've noticed that the software tends to put a "tail" on the end of the lines when drawing...doesn't seem to want to be 100% accurate with your actual input...it likes to add its own little flare.
As far as the size of the Note goes do keep in mind that it IS definitely made to be more of a two handed device, ESPECIALLY with those that have small hands. I have found that the extended battery/battery cover from Tmart (link) not only doubles the battery life of the Note (which needless to say isn't all that great to begin with) but the hump from the battery cover makes it 1000x easier to hold and handle over all. Plus it's only $10!
Overall though I LOVE my Note and honestly would not and could not go to a smaller phone anymore. Surfing the web, watching videos, reading books are all just leaps and bounds better over "other" phones. Even the Galaxy SIII seems small to me now!
Either way, I hope you learn to love your Note, it really is the best phone out there in my opinion, seconded only by the Note 2!
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I tend to jot notes frequently in a small journal I keep in my purse.
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This is precisely how I use my Note: as a small journal. That and grocery lists, taking notes while on calls, etc.
Don't bother with the stylus holder. Just buy a stylus for a Wacom tablet. I use the one from the Fujtsu Lifebook T4220. You can turn it over and the back automatically functions as an eraser. I also replaced the plastic nib with a felt tip for a more realistic writing feel.
Hi, AndroidVageta ! Thanks for the advice, and I'm the same way about smaller screen phones/ tablets. I had the Kindle Fire 1st gen, an iPod touch (the geek in me had to check it out) that's 3 years old, and an Metro PCS LG Esteem until a couple of months ago. I made the switch to AT&T and got the Skyrocket because of the screen size, and got the ASUS TF300 tablet for school, since then, I haven't used the iPod except for an Alarm Clock and occasionally hook it up to my speakers to play music, sold the phone and I gave my techno illiterate mom the KF who thinks it's awesome . I can't go smaller any more, I need the real estate. I believe I'm going to love the phone way too much. I've been searching out all sorts of info about it since Monday when they offered it. I can't wait, should be delivered tomorrow \o/
bigmout, I was wondering about the Wacom styli, I've been wanting a drawing pad for a couple of years now, but really have never been able to justify the costs since it was just for creating custom content for a game. I've priced quite a few threw Amazon, but have never seen any with the felt tips, that does intrigue me, I like fine tips, even with physical pens. That's the only irking thing about styli IMHO. I've just popped open a tab to search Amazon for the stylus and felt tip nibs now.
OMG GEEKY!!! YOU'VE NEVER SEEN THESE HAVE YOU?!
Monoprice Graphics Tablets
Got a 8x6 inch tablet a few months ago...$40 to my door. Awesome. 1024 levels of pressure, GREAT software and drivers (much less problematic and more customization than Wacom), and GREAT build quality. They work perfectly with all drawing and design programs including Photoshop and AutoCAD among others that I've tried.
Only issues is that the pens are battery powered (but last forever, have the same Ultimate Lithium Energizer in mine that I put in when I got it, and I use it every day, and I've owned it for at least 8 months now) and they only have TWO pen styles...the standard stock pen and the Graphic Drawing Tablet Pen. The pen in the link is the one I use, really a good one. But its the only good one they have. Also there aren't any different tips...just the plastic ones. However, they last forever and it still feels good when using it.
Either way...just thought I let you know about these...just incredibly cheap for something that's basically an off brand Wacom at like 1/4 the price if not less than that.
Here's a good review if you doubt them:
http://frenden.com/the-little-monoprice-graphics-tablet-that-could/
EDIT: Just wanted to add for you and anyone else that might see this that the tablets are produced by a Taiwanese company called UC-Logic. They have different styles of stylus that Monoprice doesn't carry. Actually glad I found this!
Awesome info indeed, 40 bucks I can afford. Btw got the Note and it rocks, the text input is pretty cool, and I believe with time I'll perfect it. I honestly don't think I'll use it much for taking notes for school. I'd be way too tempted. And a quick bench mark test scored this darling right under the TF201. I'd say that's pretty impressive. All smiles over here.
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