Hey guys,
When I fire up SetCPU, under CPU information it says I have an ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l).
Infact, each and every system information tool I've run on my phone keeps telling me the same thing.
These tools also keep telling me I have 1 processor core. Not 2. Got me really worried until the app "SystemPanel" showed me the activity of 2 CPU cores.
PHEW!!! Doesn't this phone have an ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor?
What do you guys see?
funeralcrows said:
Hey guys,
When I fire up SetCPU, under CPU information it says I have an ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l). Infact, each and every system information tool I've run on my phone keeps telling me the same thing. "SystemPanel" is the only app that showed me 2 CPU cores activity. Doesn't this phone have an ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor?
What do you guys see?
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Cortex-A9 is a ARMv7 chip. See here
Wow, my ass is officially cool now. Thanks a lot man =D
How donkey kong of me.
if you want to compare it to intel processors, saying that it's ARMv7 is like saying it's a Sandy Bridge processor. Saying it's a Cortex A9 is like saying it's an i5(as opposed to an i3 or an i7).
What is the EXACT FULL Brand name of the processor?
My phone also shows the processor as : ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v71)
This page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ARM_microprocessor_cores shows there are several sub classifications of ARMv7......so what exactly is the FULL brand name of this Processor? Is it really dual core? And is it good? Where does it stand when compared to Tegra and Exynos?
It's Samsung Exynos 4210 dual core
Doing a bit of enquiry, I found that both Exynos 4210 and Tegra 2 are SOCs (System-on-a-chip). These chips are jack of all trades, and amalgamate the ARM processor, GPU, anamnesis controllers and alien interfaces into a distinct chip. All SGS II phones with model number GT-i9100 have the Exynos 4210 and the model number GT-i9103 has the Tegra 2. Correct me if I'm wrong.
smaskell said:
if you want to compare it to intel processors, saying that it's ARMv7 is like saying it's a Sandy Bridge processor. Saying it's a Cortex A9 is like saying it's an i5(as opposed to an i3 or an i7).
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No ARMv7 is the instruction set, that is different from Sandy bridge which is a cpu architecture. So sandy bridge and cortex A9 are more on the same level but not exactly the same. And i5 is similar to a specific version of Exonys, but I think there only is one version
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So there were rumors that we'd not get the Hummingbird CPU here in the U.S. with our "Galaxy S phones" and after running the app Quadrant Standard, I'm a little confused. Here's the results that confuse me and it could be a simple lack of my knowledge so if anyone has the answer then please feel free to clue me in without flaming.
Result browser:
Device: Samsung Galaxy S
Other names: I900
CPU Name: ARM Cortex A8 (Hummingbird)
Max freq: 1000MHz
Now for me; I have a Vibrant...
Device: SGH-T959
CPU Name: ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v71)
Current freq: 400MHz
Max freq: 1000MHz
So does this mean we are NOT running the Hummingbird CPU or is the application wrong?
jonathan3579 said:
So there were rumors that we'd not get the Hummingbird CPU here in the U.S. with our "Galaxy S phones" and after running the app Quadrant Standard, I'm a little confused. Here's the results that confuse me and it could be a simple lack of my knowledge so if anyone has the answer then please feel free to clue me in without flaming.
Result browser:
Device: Samsung Galaxy S
Other names: I900
CPU Name: ARM Cortex A8 (Hummingbird)
Max freq: 1000MHz
Now for me; I have a Vibrant...
Device: SGH-T959
CPU Name: ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v71)
Current freq: 400MHz
Max freq: 1000MHz
So does this mean we are NOT running the Hummingbird CPU or is the application wrong?
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I believe that the arm v7 is a part of the cortex a8 family of processors, or vice versa.
greengoldmello said:
I believe that the arm v7 is a part of the cortex a8 family of processors, or vice versa.
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Hmm, I wonder why the app differentiates the two CPU's like that. I'm not able to come up with much info from searching for that exact CPU name other than info on the Motorola Droid X. Go figure...
I ran the benchmark and I was interested.
I hit up ARM's website and the ARMv7 falls under the Cortex A8 platform.
Now is there a difference in CPU's between the I9000 and the Vibrant I honestly cannot say. Very Very interesting though.
I wonder if anyone with a captivate can tell us what there's says I am interested in this.
Do you guys think that Samsung could have cheapened out and gave us a crappier CPU?
EDIT: I did some digging and found out that Apples A4 processor which is pretty much a hummingbird is under the ARMv7 instruction set which is a Cortex A8 processor.
I was able to pull up the same info in regard to the iPhone 4. I found that quite interesting. However, I'm still curious about a Captivate's results. The GPU is exactly the same on the app's results but it's just the CPU thing that bugs me. Is it normal for the phone to be running at 400 MHz? I keep turning up with that same result.
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I was able to pull up the same info in regard to the iPhone 4. I found that quite interesting. However, I'm still curious about a Captivate's results. The GPU is exactly the same on the app's results but it's just the CPU thing that bugs me. Is it normal for the phone to be running at 400 MHz? I keep turning up with that same result.
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The processor will throttle itself based on demand, so yes it is totally normal to see a number less than 1000MHz
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Now for me; I have a Vibrant...
Device: SGH-T959
CPU Name: ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v71)
Current freq: 400MHz
Max freq: 1000MHz
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My Vibrant shows Current frequency as 1000MHz.
Let's put it this way - T-Mobile and practically all marketing for the phones states it is in fact the 1ghz hummingbird CPU. If it isn't, then it is clearly false advertising.
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Let's put it this way - T-Mobile and practically all marketing for the phones states it is in fact the 1ghz hummingbird CPU. If it isn't, then it is clearly false advertising.
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So do we have any definitive answers on whether it's the same CPU that EU has? I've turned up with inconclusive results.
jonathan3579 said:
Result browser:
Device: Samsung Galaxy S
Other names: I900
CPU Name: ARM Cortex A8 (Hummingbird)
Max freq: 1000MHz
Now for me; I have a Vibrant...
Device: SGH-T959
CPU Name: ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v71)
Current freq: 400MHz
Max freq: 1000MHz
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The Cortex A8 is from the ARMv7 family of processors.
Think of it like Intel i7 family of processors, and individual processors being i7 965 or i7 920 or i3, or i5 or i9, etc. or better yet like intel processors being x86, then with all the different things they add on like mmx and hyperthreading and the like being additional instruction sets. so over time x86 gets tweaked for better performance, and the other instruction sets allow for specific tasks to be run faster. hence the difference between the different arm families. that and price tag.
any mobile processor will also dynamically clock itself based on requirements at the time. I don't know the exact frequencies because I haven't cared enough to find out, but the processor downclocks itself to something like 250mhz with the screen turned off, then up to 400mhz ish with the screen on, and then up to 800-1000mhz when running any applications or games or what have you. It does this to save battery life and not run too ungodly hot.
Laptops do the exact same thing, and desktop computers as well if you enable those settings to save on power consumption.
also the cortex a8 is just the cpu itself as far as i'm aware, that does not include the dsp nor the gpu.
ALL SGS phones run the same exact processor, Samsung's custom Hummingbird processor, with the cpu being 45nm based on the Cortex a8 (ARMv7 series) with some customizations, along with the SGX 540, i don't know what their dsp is off the top of my head though.
This is interesting!
I have an incredible. I've noticed the exact same description for my processor using two different apps. If anyone has an answer I'd love to here it!
rench32 said:
I have an incredible. I've noticed the exact same description for my processor using two different apps. If anyone has an answer I'd love to here it!
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Snapdragon is also an ARM v7 CPU. basically ARM v7 is the CPU core, Snapdragon, OMAP, Hummingbird are all SoC(Systems on a Chip), where the CPU portion is ARM based.
Hello, I saw somewhere that Galaxy S 2 has two different processors. I bought phone on saturday and I would like to find which processor has my phone? Any advice how to find out? And also,are they same quality or are they different?
Thank you
Google search is amazing, you should try it. Xda has a search feature also. If you got a box with your handset it probably mentions which one also.
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I'm not sure but i heard that the I9103 has the tegra processor but a lcd screen
Don't know if this is right or not
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Quick system info tells you which cpu you have among other things.
Hi I tryed but could not find anything. SO you think I should have Exynos because ihave I9100? Which one is better? I hope they are same.
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I'm not sure but i heard that the I9103 has the tegra processor but a lcd screen
Don't know if this is right or not
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There's rumor about a HongKong version with Tegra 2 1.2Ghz and SAMOLED plus display
Also, the FCC certification records show three different models approved for the US market:
I9100 (FCCID: A3LGTI9100)
I9100T (FCCID: A3LGTI9100T)
I9100G (FCCID: A3LGTI9100G)
I'm assuming the I9100T is the Tegra version, based on the suffix. Nothing in the publicly available docs I've looked at confirms that. The I9100G is new -- it was apparently added to the FCC site earlier today.
3waygeek said:
Also, the FCC certification records show three different models approved for the US market:
I9100 (FCCID: A3LGTI9100)
I9100T (FCCID: A3LGTI9100T)
I9100G (FCCID: A3LGTI9100G)
I'm assuming the I9100T is the Tegra version, based on the suffix. Nothing in the publicly available docs I've looked at confirms that. The I9100G is new -- it was apparently added to the FCC site earlier today.
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Per Engadget/pocketnow, one of those must be a CDMA variant for verizon and Sprint
So I checked info in my phone and processor is 1.2 GHz ARM V7 dual core. No Tegra.I just hope that this processor is good. I think they used ARM for Galaxy S.
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So I checked info in my phone and processor is 1.2 GHz ARM V7 dual core. No Tegra.I just hope that this processor is good. I think they used ARM for Galaxy S.
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Both Tegra and Exynos are of same family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#ARM_cores
They maybe little different in terms of implementation. I believe the Tegra 2 is without NEON instruction sets.
May not be a strictly easy way to compare which one is better. I think the general consensus is Exynos 4210 has overall better performance compared to the Tegra2.
I would think that you have Exynos (atleast I myself would like that).
cheers..
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Per Engadget/pocketnow, one of those must be a CDMA variant for verizon and Sprint
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My guess is that it's the G version. When I looked through the FCC docs last week, it appeared to me that the I9100 & I9100T supported AT&T's set of GSM frequencies, and were, in all aspects pertaining to FCC certification, identical.
I haven't had time to look at the FCC docs for the G version, as they were put up less than 24 hours ago, but if it's a CDMA version for Sprint/Verizon, it should be readily apparent by looking at the list of certification documents (i.e. they mention CDMA frequencies instead of GSM).
Galaxy S vs. Galaxy S2
OK I am quite worry about processor in my Galaxy S 2 now. I checked Galaxy S vs. galaxy S 2. In quadrant system informaton about CPU is this :
Galaxy S
Name : ARM v7 Processor rev 2(v7l)
Cores : 1
Architecture : 7
Revision : 2
Galaxy S2
Name : ARM v7 Processor rev 1(v7l)
Cores : 1 ... ?!?
Architecture : 7
Revision : 1
So did they used the same processor but just changed speed??? Cores 1 ??? Maybe system info is wrong, but I think this is strange, don't you think???
Maybe thsi program is not made for Android 2.3.3 ?
Do you know which code is for CPU information?
From what I read, Quadrant cannot dual cores, and lists it as one core.
Quadrant reads the LG Optimus 2X dual core as a single core. I presume it is thus for the i9100, and any other dual core 'phone.
I tryed few app from the market and they all read same information.Hopefully I have dual core CPU...
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I tryed few app from the market and they all read same information.Hopefully I have dual core CPU...
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What is the cpu speed on quadrant?
Under system information.
Current freq. : 200 MHz
Max freq. : 1200 MHz
Min freq. : 200 Mhz
Bogo MIPS : 1592.52
shawt said:
OK I am quite worry about processor in my Galaxy S 2 now. I checked Galaxy S vs. galaxy S 2. In quadrant system informaton about CPU is this :
Galaxy S
Name : ARM v7 Processor rev 2(v7l)
Cores : 1
Architecture : 7
Revision : 2
Galaxy S2
Name : ARM v7 Processor rev 1(v7l)
Cores : 1 ... ?!?
Architecture : 7
Revision : 1
So did they used the same processor but just changed speed??? Cores 1 ??? Maybe system info is wrong, but I think this is strange, don't you think???
Maybe thsi program is not made for Android 2.3.3 ?
Do you know which code is for CPU information?
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Quadrant just gets it wrong, don't worry your S2 is fine and does have a Dual-Core 1.2ghz processor just look at your quadrant result...3000+ you're not going to get that on a stock Kernel from any single core phone are you ?
Hope that helps you
Thank you I had about 3000 just wanted to know what type processor I have in my phone.
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From what I read, Quadrant cannot dual cores, and lists it as one core.
Quadrant reads the LG Optimus 2X dual core as a single core. I presume it is thus for the i9100, and any other dual core 'phone.
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Since KE7, quadrant is reporting 2 cores
well yours is a uk one, so we have the exynos version , which is the superior of the 2
Asus told us that the original Transformer was dual core but its actually 1ghz for computing and 1ghz for graphics (which i guess is dual core but not in the way we all thought.).
Just hoping they dont pull something similar with the Prime...
jleewong said:
Asus told us that the original Transformer was dual core but its actually 1ghz for computing and 1ghz for graphics (which i guess is dual core but not in the way we all thought.).
Just hoping they dont pull something similar with the Prime...
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Huh? Not sure where you're pulling your information from, but Tegra 2 consists of a dual-core CPU with each core at 1Ghz and ULP GeFoce GPU running at 333Mhz.
Technically speaking its 5 cores and a gpu.
The Tegra 3, which the Prime has, consists of a 4 1.4GHz CPU cores along with another low-power core. It also has a 12 core GPU.
The TF101, the original transformer, had a Tegra 2. The Tegra 2 had 2 1GHz CPU cores and a 333MHz GPU core.
http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Tegra
I guess it really was dual core, awhile back when I first purchased a Viewsonic G-tablet (I've had every other tegra 2 tablet since) I read a review that said tegra 2 wasnt really dual core because it was using 1ghz for cpu and another 1ghz for gpu. But according to the tegra 2 wiki it really is dual core.
Still dont understand why my Archos 70 runs webpages and go launcher better, it only has a single core 1ghz cpu . Maybe it was honeycomb that made the tegra 2 seem slugish.
Tegra 3 has the 4 cores and that single companion core, so it should have no problems I hope, expecially when ICS hits.
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I guess it really was dual core, awhile back when I first purchased a Viewsonic G-tablet (I've had every other tegra 2 tablet since) I read a review that said tegra 2 wasnt really dual core because it was using 1ghz for cpu and another 1ghz for gpu. But according to the tegra 2 wiki it really is dual core.
Still dont understand why my Archos 70 runs webpages and go launcher better, it only has a single core 1ghz cpu . Maybe it was honeycomb that made the tegra 2 seem slugish.
Tegra 3 has the 4 cores and that single companion core, so it should have no problems I hope, expecially when ICS hits.
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The Tegra 2 is two ARM A9 chips @ 1.00Ghz (and later on, 1.2Ghz) CPU alongside an 8 core GeForce GPU.
The The Tegra 3 is a four ARM A9 chips @ 1.4GHz alongside a 12 core GeForce GPU + a 5th underclocked A9 for power-saving features.
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The Tegra 2 is two ARM A9 chips @ 1.00Ghz (and later on, 1.2Ghz) CPU alongside an 8 core GeForce GPU.
The The Tegra 3 is a four ARM A9 chips @ 1.4GHz alongside a 12 core GeForce GPU + a 5th underclocked A9 for power-saving features.
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The The Tegra 3 is a four ARM A9 chips @ 1.3GHz (upto 1.4GHz in single core mode) alongside a 12 core GeForce GPU + a 5th underclocked A9 for power-saving features.
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Maybe it was honeycomb that made the tegra 2 seem slugish.
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Probably. They made a mistake of not making the home screen hardware accelerated. It's supposed to be fixed in ICS.
The trends we are seeing in this part of the World (Asia) with the New Crop of "Value for Money" Smartphones is MediaTek Processors...
Be it Lenovo, Alcatel or all major vendors in Asia, China, Indonesia...they are starting to go with these Processors...
Having said that We see a lot of Bad Mouth about this brand of Proccy....so what the real deal?
All of us would agree when we are looking at a dual core smartphobe at under 200 $ prce bracket.....we cant expect a Snapdragon S3!
And looks like all new VFM Samrtphones from China OEM or other places who rebrand OEM are ending up being MediaTek!
Starting this thread to get some discussion going for more enlightenment....
Current MediaTek Proccys in Market :
- MT6575 : Single core Cortex-A9 solution with an unidentified 5-series PowerVR GPU
- MT6577 : Dual Core 1GHz Cortex™-A9 application processor from ARM, a PowerVR™ Series5 SGX GPU
MediaTek breaks into Top 5 in Smartphones Procy sales Worldwide!
MediaTek in Top 5
MediaTek announces Dual Core Proccy for Sub 200$ Smartphones
MediaTek Launches Dual Core Processors
Lenovo A750 - First Android Phone with MediaTek MTK MT6575 Processor
http://youtu.be/9cgnCgqD-9A
bad mouth about mediatek, well i don't think so. mediatek processors should be at par with any other processors but the problem is afaik they dont release their kernel sources and they are still stuck with their sgx 531t gpu which is almost at par with our adreno 205 but not any better. however i might be wrong. i read about this a long time back and i dont remember the exact source.
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bad mouth about mediatek, well i don't think so. mediatek processors should be at par with any other processors but the problem is afaik they dont release their kernel sources and they are still stuck with their sgx 531t gpu which is almost at par with our adreno 205 but not any better. however i might be wrong. i read about this a long time back and i dont remember the exact source.
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They are on PowerVR GPU Now...on eh 1Ghz Single Core and 1 Ghz Dual Core chips
I'd suggest to move the whole discussion to "Android General". There you will certainly find more people to discuss your particular issues and do not spam this board. Thank you....even if I sound like forum police now :laugh:
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Hello guys, I just bought this phone: http://www.fastcardtech.com/HDC-Galaxy-Note-2-H7189
And I saw here that this phone comes with PowerVR SGX544 GPU, and when I googled some other sites, I found on a few places in a product description that the phone has PowerVR SGX531 GPU..
Now my question is; is it possible that phones with Mediatek MT6589 processors come with PowerVR SGX531 GPU?
Or does this mean that these guys on other sites just got a bad info??
Regards,
Emrah.
P.S.
I saw on wikipedia right next to mt6589 processor that it supports PowerVR SGX544.. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaTek
But I am still not sure if the phone has to come with SGX544, or if that is the maximum that CPU supports..