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Dear Toshiba Folio 100 user.
I have created this thread to use it as a place it discuss all ideas, suggestions, problems, improvements about this device. In this way we can clean some of the general issues in the Dexter ROM thread.
Regards
Marcelo
Applications using the big screen ?
Looking for the best (screen usage) for email and calendar.
The email client in 1.0b is the default one for Android, looking at the email client in Samsung Tab its much better at using the big screen. Also the Folio is much better with white/light background as the "stock" email-client does not have.
Any pointer to a better app ?
The calendar app is much better and uses the screen much better.
Please write about your experiences with apps that works with big screens and works good on the Folio.
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where do you find email client samsung???
Using Startup Manager, would it be possible to disable the phone service or would that result in a nuclear explosion or something like it? i mean, is android dependant on it one way or another, or would it be safe to disable it?
why foliomod ?
Hi to all
mhgonzalez great idea to create this "general" post.
I bought two folio for as Christmas gift, now they are hidden .. but, when I can, I do some test.
I never used android till now but I'm trying to understand why I should install foliomod. During my little usage I didn't find any bug, I only wasn't able to open a ebook (.epub) using the default reader (and I have put the file in the Books folder, anyway) but I suppose it's only because I need to improve my "knowledge".
But at the moment no bugs where find, all the apps installed work properly, wifi it's ok and, after I installed flash plug-in, browsing is ok too.
Not only but I was able to find the few app I saw googoling around the web.
What the folio mod make me able to do more than this ?
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where do you find email client samsung???
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It can be downloaded from
www(dot)gunsforgeeks(dot)com/Email.apk
but it does NOT work on the Folio
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It can be downloaded from
www(dot)gunsforgeeks(dot)com/Email.apk
but it does NOT work on the Folio
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That is one of my frustrations. The current email.apk on the folio, as well as the calender, look pretty terrible. In email, I can't even scroll through the different emails, everytime I have to open a message, read, close and open the next. Even on the (rather basic) email.apk on the Galaxy S I have small arrows on top with which I can scroll through to the next or previous message. The Galaxy-TAB email.apk doesn't work (well) on the SGS either.
Also, Samsung have another email-client from com7, I'can;t get that version installed ( a specific Samsung version with great HTML-email-presentation, but alas, missing scroll-arrows also). I'll check the com7-site to see if they have a more general Android version of their email-app and come back on that one.
So if anyone has an other email.apk which works on the Folio, let me know.
kakkio said:
Hi to all
mhgonzalez great idea to create this "general" post.
I bought two folio for as Christmas gift, now they are hidden .. but, when I can, I do some test.
I never used android till now but I'm trying to understand why I should install foliomod. During my little usage I didn't find any bug, I only wasn't able to open a ebook (.epub) using the default reader (and I have put the file in the Books folder, anyway) but I suppose it's only because I need to improve my "knowledge".
But at the moment no bugs where find, all the apps installed work properly, wifi it's ok and, after I installed flash plug-in, browsing is ok too.
Not only but I was able to find the few app I saw googoling around the web.
What the folio mod make me able to do more than this ?
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Dear Kakkio.
Modding the most important in my case was to be able to download application from Android Market, reason why the Toshiba Market is a joke. It depend on what will you do with the Folio. If it is only to browse internet and reading book, dont mod. If you need more, I recomend to mod.
dear mhgonzalez
tnx for your answer, in a few word you give me axactly the info I needed.
Mainly I'll use the tablet to read, listen music, watch video and browsing... but I like to "play" so, after a few, I'm sure I'll go to install foliomod...
In this moment I'm installing android emulator on my ubuntu in order to get a little bit more involved.
TnX again
Kakkio
I quote a post from "pekka91166" from the dexter section because I think is perfect for this section ...
"...I agree with one of the earlier posts on Android (especially Tegra2) tablets versus others, including iPad.
If you're simpoly looking for a tablet which works and works very well, get yourself an iPad. And accept it's a pretty much closed OS.
If you're looking for a working Android tab, go for the SGT, although I'm not sure how well the TAB is working.
With all these tegra2 tablets, we're in for some disturbing months. Right now, these products all seem to suffer from pre-release firmwares which haven't been adapted well enough to the powerful (and partly cheap) hardwarechoices the various suppliers have chosen.
In the case of the Folio100, I knew very well I was buying a product with factory-default rubbish FW, but after reading Dexter's posts I figured it was worth trying, playing, failing and reinstalling.
All in all, I'm happy with the Folio, it's definitely NOT the product is should become, but pretty decent workeable and, last but nost least, FUN (and irritating at the same time).
I just hope Toshiba will, at some point, come with an acceptable FW AND that, in the meantime, Dexter and others will be able to cook some nice firmwares based on 2.2.
The Folio FEELS at some point very powerful, so the Tegra2 should be able to perform, but most of the times it seems lazy. For me a clear indication its the firmware of the machine. Unfortunately, it's a bit the same with a Galaxy S-phone. Powerhouse, but the firmware (2.2) is yet not there to unleash the full power.
Let's hope we'll get 2.3 running on our Tosh and that it supports dual-cores. I expect until then we'll have a nice (and often frustrating) toy to fiddle around with....."
why mod?
For me the big disappointment with the Folio was that none of the Google stuff worked and I expected this from a device with Android.
Dexter has fixed this with his mods and now i can see all my picassa pics in the Gallery, my contacts calendar and email all sync perfectly. Try Google maps with the street view addin and zoom down streets, spin around, it is the sort of app that the tablet excells at.
He has also fixed the Market and there are plenty that are free and work great like tunein radio, some are worth paying for like Bria if you want a good sip client.
I have gone for the v2 mod as it seems to fly, It is not perfect but it is 1000% better.
Others have found v1 mod better for their use. Dexter has made it easy to try them and roll back and has proved to be adept at fixing issues with easy to apply updates , he can also be stimulated with his Donate button, Early reports are that the other tablets arriving with Froyo are hardly better than stock Folio all crippled at birth. Anyway I am grinning. I had a Nokia N800, ****e at first but then the second os release brought it to life and included a cpu overclock. Some have said we are not using both cores properly so I am looking forward to the next Android even if we have to stimulate Dexter to make it work again
but after foliomod I'll found the original apps ? or I have to re-install them again ? or I'll found others ones ?
and if toshiba will create a FW upgrade I'll have to roll-back to the original state to install it?
sorry for the stupid questions
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kakkio said:
but after foliomod I'll found the original apps ? or I have to re-install them again ? or I'll found others ones ?
and if toshiba will create a FW upgrade I'll have to roll-back to the original state to install it?
sorry for the stupid questions
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Some will be there and some better ones have been included plus you have acess to the market where you should find everything you need , this is a bit trial and error but people will hopefully post reports of apps that work well on the folio. Yes you would have to go back to stock rom to get the Tosh update. Hah lets see if that comes:
Hi!
Somehow I got stuck in the Foliomod V01...
When I'm in system recovery trying to upate to a later version I only get:
E:Can't mount DEFAULT_PATH
Finding update package
Opening update package
E:Can't open /sdcard/update.zip
(No such file or directory)
Installation aborted.
Formatting MISC:...
When I choose: apply sdcard:update.zip
The same message pops up.
Anybody who has got an idea, how to fix this?
stuck
I would delete the update.zip and put a fresh one there, check on the pc that the zip opens and is not corrupt. Ian
sweeterhome
this launcher looks awesome, i'm gonna try it on the folio and see if it's sucessful =)
http://www.sweeterhome.com/
kakkio said:
dear mhgonzalez
tnx for your answer, in a few word you give me axactly the info I needed.
Mainly I'll use the tablet to read, listen music, watch video and browsing... but I like to "play" so, after a few, I'm sure I'll go to install foliomod...
In this moment I'm installing android emulator on my ubuntu in order to get a little bit more involved.
TnX again
Kakkio
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Kakkio
Hello from Argentina, I see you are Italian, my mother is Italian from Calabria, and my best friend here is Italian who is working in the Italian consulate in my city (Fabio Zarzaca).
More my little daughter is studing in an Italian school called Da Vinci School.
Regards and enjoy your devices.
Marcelo
Anybody know a way to use bluetooth for tethering, like it's possible with the archos tablets?
I've got 2 phones here wich are capable of making a dial up connection, but they are not as advanced as complete smart phones.
First is a LG GD510 POP and the second is a Samsung U600. Neither phone has a wlan connection, so it must be connected through bluetooth.
I can make a bluetooth connection with either of them and can send files and contact cards to them, but a tethering connection is not (yet) possible.
I know in the archos tablets, there is a possibility to tether, but in the folio (and mods) it's not.
Searching only delivers solutions, where the android device is the phone and a pc is the client or where a connection is made through wifi.
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I know in the archos tablets, there is a possibility to tether, but in the folio (and mods) it's not.
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i dont there is any need to compare other hardware platforms..
the you could say Windows7 works fine with flash, but my android does not..
or my milestone works quite wll too, but still not same platform...
Best is put into accepting Toshiba/Nvidia is still work in progress, other major companies seems to plan using tegra2 and then we will for sure see much better support..
Toshiba released the folio100 too quick, comparing to Malata T2 which is still not out, as they realize its not in an acceptable state, although Nvidia is helping them to improve, they have yet to release their tablet and provide updates.
ICS on the Prime, for many, took a step back and now claims "ad hoc networks are not supported". So, many of us who have been tethering the last few weeks via a tethering app now cannot as ICS is seeing the network as ad hoc and is now reporting that is not supported. I personally used wireless tether under Honeycomb every single day on my Prime. Now, for me, and many, we cannot. I have a whole growing thread in the general area and it really seems this is the root of the issue for those of us that do not have built in wifi hot spots and use a tether app.
So, is this something a dev can sort out? How to get back ad hoc network support under ICS on the Prime? I have seen topics on it in google like this one, but this "fix" did not work.
(BTW - if a mod thinks this is not in the right place and wants to move it to the General thread, please just delete this as there is already a thread there, but a help request in the dev area seemed logical. If not, sorry.)
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IT HAS BEEN SOLVED 2.3.12
Based on a post I read the other day, and that I was asked to test today, I decided to try 1 more time and it worked!! But not how I expected. I tried 3 tests... the final one worked!!
So, here is the process:
1. root is required AND make sure you have your file system app (like Root Explorer) set to make files R/W so you can edit/rename/set permissions
2. turn off wifi
3. go into system/bin and rename wpa_supplicant2 to wpa_supplicant2.bak - that's right folks.. it is NOT wpa_supplicant but wpa_supplicant2 that is running the show
3. download the wpa_supplicant file found here post #24 in my other thread
4. unzip it
5. rename it wpa_supplicant2 NOT wpa_supplicant
6. move it to system/bin and paste it
7. set permissions to xxx, x, xxx (columns) - see more details below if confused
8. go back and start up wifi
9. turn on wifi analyzer and you will see (*)AndroidTether with no red Ad Hoc notation!!
10. click to connect
11. surf and tether away!!
No rebooting needed, it is instant
I am using the good old original Wireless tether 2.0.7 app I always used! None of those beta releases and picking settings and blah blah
Yes, I was able to connect right back to my local wifi with no issues as well!
PLEASE hit the thanks button, I worked long and hard on trying to get this to work
#7 details if you don't understand permissions settings
When you set permissions (long press the file) a pop-up opens and it shows 3 columns with 3 checkboxes in each. Each "x" is to be checked
Read...Write...Execute
x..........x..........x
x......................x
x......................x
This is really a super simple fix for rooted devices. Just search the internet for "ad-hoc" and "wpa_supplicant" and you should be able to figure the rest out pretty easily. However, that said, wpa_supplicant form a previous version of Android (Honeycomb, Gingerbread, etc) might not work.
a.mcdear said:
This is really a super simple fix for rooted devices. Just search the internet for "ad-hoc" and "wpa_supplicant" and you should be able to figure the rest out pretty easily. However, that said, wpa_supplicant form a previous version of Android (Honeycomb, Gingerbread, etc) might not work.
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Yep, look in my post above. I did find one, I did try it, it did not work. The wpa_supplicant I used had no affect. I think this is why we need a dev to square it away and with details on how to install for other users.
i think it would be better for u to try and find a dev in irc vs posting a thread in development section when it is more a question or request.
irc.freenode.net
#asus-transformer
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
While I understand that it's easier to just talk to a dev over IRC, I really hope a working solution can be released here soon.
ravizzle said:
i think it would be better for u to try and find a dev in irc vs posting a thread in development section when it is more a question or request.
irc.freenode.net
#asus-transformer
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
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Honestly, I am not even sure what this means
That being said this is surely a clear request... a request for help
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Honestly, I am not even sure what this means
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LOL ahh the days or IRC. He means there is an IRC (which I believe stands for Internet Relay Chat?) group/page that you can go to and actually talk (like a chat room I suppose) at that above site. You might get more response from them there. I might pop on there later actually.
I think enabling ad hoc connection is part of the issue. Thing is, the 3rd. party app we used called Wireless Tether is really an Infrastructure tethering method. It worked fine on honeycomb. We know Honeycomb and ICS doesn't support Ad hoc connections. Once we updated to ICS, it changed the way the connection is viewed. Now ICS tells us its an ad hoc connection when its really not. If it were ad hoc, then honeycomb would've never allowed us to connect also.
Since the app is viewed as the wrong connection, ad hoc, its not allowing connection or even network seen in normal settings. Wifi Analyzer can see the network though and also says it ad hoc now. but when you try to connect it will say This connection isn't supported by Android yet.
I got BT PAN method of tethering to work buts its a much slower connection speed. it'll do in the meantime, if needed but the wifi tethering method worked the best n easiest. Seems like phones with built in hotspots feature seem to work along with HTC phones. my phone is Atrix4g and I'm not sure what kind the OP has. Methods that are working for others on their Samsung or HTC phones don't seem to work on ours.
Concisely explained... thanks
(For the record, I use a rooted OG Droid running a simple Pete's ROM - but the issue is pervasive across many many brands)
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If it were ad hoc, then honeycomb would've never allowed us to connect also.
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Actually, the Honeycomb used on the Transformer Prime is perfectly capable of connecting to ad-hoc networks.
Source: My Prime with Honeycomb and my two (PC + SGS I9000) ad-hoc networks.
ZeDroid said:
Actually, the Honeycomb used on the Transformer Prime is perfectly capable of connecting to ad-hoc networks.
Source: My Prime with Honeycomb and my two (PC + SGS I9000) ad-hoc networks.
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interesting. I knew ICS didn't support it and had just read that it started with HC. I never tried my barnacle app, ad hoc, on honeycomb. I always used my wireless tether app.
I wonder why there were several people reporting on Google Android open source page that ad hoc connection wasn't being allowed period. Or why isn't Google/Android allowing this feature across the board.
I have a feeling we will get another update soon to smooth out the initial ICS bugs.
Hey demandarin I did try Barnacle many times... no dice
Anyway, here is some more useful info
I just tried 3 wpa_supplicant files I found for other phones/tablets. None worked. All allowed for wifi fine, none accepted ad hoc.
I have the swap steps down good enough now and know and understand the setup and permissions and such, I feel confident now in the processes to try any wpa_supplicant file. You find one, I have not tried it, I will... but I doubt it will work for 2 reasons
1. it is not specific to our tablet and ICS software
2. we have 2 wpa_supplicant files - that is right 2 - not just 1 so there may be some interdependency as NO thread/forum/blog/post has ever mentioned 2 wpa files
I am sure a dev would know this, but putting it out there that I have tried swapping wpa files to no avail
☞[READ ME 1st] ☆.☆.☆ If YOU DID NOT CREATE "it" THEN IT DOESN'T BELONG IN DEVELOPMENT
A nice sticky at the top of the Dev section where this was first posted. Moved to Q&A
Well, is there anything new to this topic? I think not only a few people are depending on it.
Nothing new. I'm still working on it & emailing devs that fixed the issue in HC before Asus finally fixed it (see my other thread about that for a post I made yesterday)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21417076&postcount=281
Be rest assured... this issue affects more than just "a few people". I've seen it mentioned on other forums as well. I also suspect it will get worked out in time - but not fast enough for some if us.
Me too. I want my (UK) Asus Prime to connect to Joikuspot
I have ICS and want to use the ad hoc connection on my phone running Joikuspot.
Any news ?
Guys, wireless tether works just fine on the tp with ics if you use version 2.0.7 instead of the current version. I've been tethering my thunderbolt to my tp every day since I got it in Dec 22 with both ics and honeycomb.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
I seriously wish people would research the true issue before just posting up that "it works"... there is a whole HUGE thread that explains why it does not AND IF IT DOES why it does work for you and not others.
Not only that... there are whole trial and error tests with ALL versions of Wireless tether - including all beta versions.
Lock-N-Load said:
I seriously wish people would research the true issue before just posting up that "it works"... there is a whole HUGE thread that explains why it does not AND IF IT DOES why it does work for you and not others.
Not only that... there are whole trial and error tests with ALL versions of Wireless tether - including all beta versions.
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Wanna know why people leave XDA? Because when they post things that definitely DO work for them and others, people immediately jump down their throat and try to make them feel like idiots. I have no idea why 2.0.7 works for me and several friends that own both primes and tbolts but it does. Period.
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mkjellgren said:
Wanna know why people leave XDA? Because when they post things that definitely DO work for them and others, people immediately jump down their throat and try to make them feel like idiots. I have no idea why 2.0.7 works for me and several friends that own both primes and tbolts but it does. Period.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
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My man.. your post added nothing. Telling us tether worked for you? I could have told you it would work for you! IF, IF, IF you just did a little research into the other thread... you would understand why it does. But you didn't, you just blindly posted up that it worked.. confusing the issue for people like you that do not research the issue and understand what is going on.
Perhaps this isn't the right forum, but none of the other Android sub-forums seemed the right place for this question.
Facebook for Android running on a tablet is a horrible experience. The same version running on my phone is quite a bit better. I think I've got 1.9.9 on both my Tab 8.9 ICS and my Amaze with ICS. On my phone, when I got to someones page, I get the new timeline with coverphoto and access to things like a link to their photo albums.
With 1.9.9 on my tab, the page is compressed to a thin column in the center of the screen, going to someones profile shows some old mobile form of their profile, and has no links to things like photos. At one time, the app used the full screen on my tab (no thin center column business) and had access to all the places within facebook. I know back in the 1.8.x releases, it worked fine. I think it was the 1.9.x that brought on the center column issue.
So, does anyone know the last decent version of facebook that worked on the tablet version of android? Please no responses like "use another client", or "go to the website".
Edit: Found a very minimal listing of facebook version numbers and dates released.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/facebook-for-android/com.facebook.katana
From that, and the time I bought my tablet, I think v1.9.3 was probably the last that worked ok on my tablet. I really wish the play store had better change logs, for example, when an app dev uploads a new version, there's a what's new field. I'd like to see way to access the history of changes to that field, perhaps even a way to access old versions of an app, for cases just like this.
Sounds rom related. I run thors JB on my A500 and dont have your issue with the most recent version of facebook. Ask on the forum for your tablet, preferably in the thread for your rom and see if anyone else has the issue.
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Sounds rom related. I run thors JB on my A500 and dont have your issue with the most recent version of facebook. Ask on the forum for your tablet, preferably in the thread for your rom and see if anyone else has the issue.
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I guess I remember seeing reviews on google play stating they had the same problem and assumed it was an issue with tablets. I'm running the stock factory ROM on my tab.
When I get some time tonight, I'm going to see if I can find a couple of the older versions of the apk to see if it was a client side or server side update that caused the issue. I assume the FB app just pulls up the profile page for someone, and it's pulling up an outdated mobile page, instead of the new timeline based page. After I try a few things, I'll report back, just in case someone else stumbles on this thread with the same issue.
I just got my Meizu MX4 and find several things which irritate me, was wondering if I can make suggestions for updates somewhere? Here are a few examples:
How do I get temp in C, with Display Language US English?
NearBy took an entire day to finally figure out where I live, although location is turned on and I tried to show it where I am.
Still new, more to follow if this is the place.
OhMan1 said:
How do I get temp in C, with Display Language US English?
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Do want to change this in the wheather app? That one has a settings entry for that.
OhMan1 said:
NearBy took an entire day to finally figure out where I live, although location is turned on and I tried to show it where I am.
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As far as I know there is a bug report for this and the developers are working on it. Let's see if the next update fixes the issue.
Thank you for the response Nikwen,
The weather app is automatically the Weather Channel, the only setting possible is location on or off. I had expected it to be there.
I'll keep my eye open for the fix to my other comment and also for additional things to talk about. I'm essentially very satisfied with the user experience and am certain that once apps and scopes begin showing up in numbers Ubuntu will be a viable alternative to the others on the market.
I assume I can continue to bring up problems I find here.
Thanks again
O
Found the next thing, although it's probably known. In camera I can't zoom. The zoom - + show, but nothing happens.
So, I found that I can change the weather app to celsius, but it doesn't work in the weather channel and it's what's used in NearBy with F.
I also found that the Amazon app goes automatically to Amazon.co.uk, but I live in Germany, I want .de, but how?
Next, I browsed Google.com, it sent me to Google.de, what else? I didn't want that, but it's impossible to get to complete English. The Google page is English, but when I touch settings, I land in a German page.
Those are my newest grumps, I'll keep looking.
TY for listening!
O
WiFi hotspot would also be nice, though I understand the OS is new and time will bring new features.
Wifi Hotspot
OhMan1 said:
WiFi hotspot would also be nice, though I understand the OS is new and time will bring new features.
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Wifi hotspot is coming in the next update
It should be out in September or maybe later this month if we're lucky !
TY antole, that's welcome info. This morning I got an update, since then I get no notifications from gmail. Is that normal or do I need to make a setting? Another thing, Near By has disappeared, so I no longer see F not certain if that's good or bad atm.
I'm just enjoying playing with my new toy and thank all devs for the hard work amnd for putting up with my problems.
O
I haven't even tried the Gmail app sorry
My Gmail account is configured with Dekko
I didn't get any update this morning, was the update for the Gmail app ?
I've been running on OTA-5 for approximately two weeks now and I've had no issue with The Weather Channel displaying temperature in C but I live in France so that seems normal
My NearBy scope hasn't gone anywhere either ;p
anatole78 said:
I didn't get any update this morning, was the update for the Gmail app ?
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The update was for Nexus devices only as the messaging issue they fixed didn't appear on other devices.
Back with more! Sorry to say I was overwelmed by the amount of work needed on OT and didn't want to sound like I was putting it down, so I stopped writing. Most are small, wish I could this or that. I found one today though which I had to ask about.
I tried to upload files to my P today, win7 couldn't do it so I tried Ubuntu desktop, 14.04 which couldn't mount my phone. Uh oh, what now? I can't find a setting anywhere which helps. Any advice would be appreciated.
Oh and the update I assume was somethsomething to get my new phone up to the current version. I must have removed Near By by accident, I have it back now, still in F. Must be the language, custom I live in germany but us us english.
Ty for the help!
O
If you cannot mount your phone, you can always enable ssh and use sftp to transfer files. Usual mounting should work though.
(If it still doesn't, you could try installing ADB on your computer. It might help.)
Thanks for your help Nik,
I figured it out, I needed to get into Developer Mode in order to get USB to work. Now I'm in, but have the next problem. I can only see the Home directories, but I want to download the files in the .local/share but I have no idea how to get there. On my MX4 I've gotten to the folder I want using File Manager, but how do I get there from my PC? Or more specifically, how do I download the files stored there?
O
Yeah, hotspot is here! Haven't had time to test it yet, but I love to watch UT develop.
Still hoping for a tip on getting to my files from a PC. I understand it's a kinda noobish question, but until now I've only fixed problems as they arrise in Ubuntu, haven't had time for it. Now I've started and don't know where to search for help.
And the potshot works great. Saw Cantata Nil, looks interesting, but having a problem finding servers, or do I have to set up my own server?
Thanx
O
Stupid auto correct, I meant hotspot and Nik.
I've finally found AskUbuntu, so I'm working on finding my own answers.
OhMan1 said:
Thanks for your help Nik,
I figured it out, I needed to get into Developer Mode in order to get USB to work. Now I'm in, but have the next problem. I can only see the Home directories, but I want to download the files in the .local/share but I have no idea how to get there. On my MX4 I've gotten to the folder I want using File Manager, but how do I get there from my PC? Or more specifically, how do I download the files stored there?
O
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Use phablet-shell or adb shell.
OhMan1 said:
And the potshot works great. Saw Cantata Nil, looks interesting, but having a problem finding servers, or do I have to set up my own server?
Thanx
O
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Yes, you need your own one.
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Stupid auto correct, I meant hotspot and Nik.
I've finally found AskUbuntu, so I'm working on finding my own answers.
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AskUbuntu is great. :good:
Hi guys, I hope someone can help coz I'm at the end of my tether!.
I've got a Hudl v1 which I factory reset because it was getting slow with stock ROM (never changed anything).
I come to the Let's get started and I click Start to get to the WIFI selection bit. I connect to my own router and it quickly says Authenticating (which it does), then it say Cannot connect to the internet, check your WIFI, and I click OK which takes me back to the WIFI connection screen. If I reboot at this point and start again, at the connect to WIFI point it says connected and there's the WIFI icon but no triangle icon to continue.
I've tried it on several networks, both open and secured and set it static IP but no luck.
If I use the Google keyboard method of getting to Settings I can browse Ok using Chrome and access Play Store etc and install apps.
I have tried 3 different ROM's now and all are the same. Used RKTOOL to flash it. Factory reset after installing each of them.
Debug mode and rooted now BTW.
I used ES explorer to browse to system/apps folder and renamed the HUDL SETUP apk to something different then reset again. The only difference now is that I have the 3 nav icons at the bottom.
Is there a way around this to skip the WIFI screen and continue to the next setup screen?
Is there a way of killing this process (if so what's it called?) of removing it?
Much appreciate any help.
Cheers
Paul
Factory reset HUDL - cannot get past the wifi screen
Paull,
I am having exactly the same issue my HUDL. I have not been through as many processes as you to get around the startup screen. My main theory now is to wipe the HUDL software and install alternative Android OS. Not sure if that would work in practice, but seems just the HUDL thats the issue.. Is it possible this is a deliberate bug by HUDL to kick the systems gradually off the market? Seems a waste as my HUDL still works well, so be stupid to bin it just yet.
Can you add any advice on how you did the other actions - how did you get your three buttons and did they operate as expected - presuymably not:? Even when I by pass to the keyboard section I am unable to download or update apps or install the Google Now Launcher.
Seems stupid to me. Really keen to find a post a fix for this stupid stupid issue?
Stuart
pwigg said:
Hi guys, I hope someone can help coz I'm at the end of my tether!.
I've got a Hudl v1 which I factory reset because it was getting slow with stock ROM (never changed anything).
I come to the Let's get started and I click Start to get to the WIFI selection bit. I connect to my own router and it quickly says Authenticating (which it does), then it say Cannot connect to the internet, check your WIFI, and I click OK which takes me back to the WIFI connection screen. If I reboot at this point and start again, at the connect to WIFI point it says connected and there's the WIFI icon but no triangle icon to continue.
I've tried it on several networks, both open and secured and set it static IP but no luck.
If I use the Google keyboard method of getting to Settings I can browse Ok using Chrome and access Play Store etc and install apps.
I have tried 3 different ROM's now and all are the same. Used RKTOOL to flash it. Factory reset after installing each of them.
Debug mode and rooted now BTW.
I used ES explorer to browse to system/apps folder and renamed the HUDL SETUP apk to something different then reset again. The only difference now is that I have the 3 nav icons at the bottom.
Is there a way around this to skip the WIFI screen and continue to the next setup screen?
Is there a way of killing this process (if so what's it called?) of removing it?
Much appreciate any help.
Cheers
Paul
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I called TESCO contact centre and they confirmed that the software is no longer support and this sounds like a deliberate bug to stop the devices. - If you have a HUDL I would urge you not to factory reset as this will kill it altogether. I think from an environmental standpoint its atrocious to do this and for TESCO not to have a section about it on the website. They should also be telling people where they can send the devices for recycling or repurposing or offering a very basic OS so it can still be used even with limited fucnctionality. We need to start thinking about the whole picture and getting the information like this out there in the public domain.
Stuart
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stuartcm83 said:
Paull,
I am having exactly the same issue my HUDL. I have not been through as many processes as you to get around the startup screen. My main theory now is to wipe the HUDL software and install alternative Android OS. Not sure if that would work in practice, but seems just the HUDL thats the issue.. Is it possible this is a deliberate bug by HUDL to kick the systems gradually off the market? Seems a waste as my HUDL still works well, so be stupid to bin it just yet.
Can you add any advice on how you did the other actions - how did you get your three buttons and did they operate as expected - presuymably not:? Even when I by pass to the keyboard section I am unable to download or update apps or install the Google Now Launcher.
Seems stupid to me. Really keen to find a post a fix for this stupid stupid issue?
Stuart
---------- Post added at 11:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:57 AM ----------
I called TESCO contact centre and they confirmed that the software is no longer support and this sounds like a deliberate bug to stop the devices. - If you have a HUDL I would urge you not to factory reset as this will kill it altogether. I think from an environmental standpoint its atrocious to do this and for TESCO not to have a section about it on the website. They should also be telling people where they can send the devices for recycling or repurposing or offering a very basic OS so it can still be used even with limited fucnctionality. We need to start thinking about the whole picture and getting the information like this out there in the public domain.
Stuart
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i know this is old but just going through this on my granddads old Hudl, he died so no way am I getting rid the first post got me interested but didnt know what they keyboard trick was have found out so am posting here to help other users
1. select anywhere that will let you type in text
2. when the keyboard comes up long press the microphone key
3. click on google keyboard settings
4. scroll down to about google keyboard
5. click on privacy policy (it will load up google chrome)
6. in the address bar type in google app
7. the google app will show click on it in the google search results
8. click open in play store
9 click on open
10. in the search bar type settings / play store
11. root your tablet following other guids
hope this helps fill in the blanks
Tesco HUDL1_Post-factory reset Workround
Hi All,
Over the past couple of years I've contributed to the MoDaCo forum on this topic as a HUDL user - since the MoDaCo forum is now defunct (sadly, recently confirmed to me by PaulO'Brien via email), I thought it might be useful to fill in some of the gaps for you by summarising the extensive history surrounding this problem, starting from the first Tesco server outage in early 2019. Much of this was documented in MoDaCo but is now no longer available.
I can also offer you a couple of workround solutions which I’ve tested on a factory-reset HUDL1, and documented as a detailed instruction set within a .pdf file.
Since it isn’t possible to attach anything other than image files to this post. I’ve transferred the file to Google drive. Unfortunately as a new user, it does not appear to be possible for me to include the shareable link within this reply to allow you access…..
If any of you are interested in viewing this file, please let me know via this post and I will look into alternative means of getting it to you.
Viv
viv001 said:
Hi All,
Over the past couple of years I've contributed to the MoDaCo forum on this topic as a HUDL user - since the MoDaCo forum is now defunct (sadly, recently confirmed to me by PaulO'Brien via email), I thought it might be useful to fill in some of the gaps for you by summarising the extensive history surrounding this problem, starting from the first Tesco server outage in early 2019. Much of this was documented in MoDaCo but is now no longer available.
I can also offer you a couple of workround solutions which I’ve tested on a factory-reset HUDL1, and documented as a detailed instruction set within a .pdf file.
Since it isn’t possible to attach anything other than image files to this post. I’ve transferred the file to Google drive. Unfortunately as a new user, it does not appear to be possible for me to include the shareable link within this reply to allow you access…..
If any of you are interested in viewing this file, please let me know via this post and I will look into alternative means of getting it to you.
Viv
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Hi would you be able to contact me somewhere regarding this? would be interested in taking look at the pdf file
Hi
I would certainly be interested in looking at the .pdf as I have 2x Hudl 1 both of which have been factory reset before I knew Tesco no longer supported them and had swithched off the server.
Thx
Tesco HUDL1_Post-factory reset Workround
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Hi would you be able to contact me somewhere regarding this? would be interested in taking look at the pdf file
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Hi,
Since I'm new to this forum and there do seem to be quite a few restrictions on exchange of data, I'll need some advice on how to give folks access to the pdf file. As you'll appreciate, the amount of info is too large to insert into a post 'longhand', so a separate document was really the only way to go with this.
I suspect there will be quite a bit of interest, and it would be a shame if the site's restrictions prevented me from sharing the info.
I notice there is an icon on the post compilation page entitled 'Insert email link' - what exactly does this do, and could we use it to exchange email addresses offline ? I've no objection to corresponding with interested individuals, but I'd rather not broadcast my address too widely....
Cheers, Viv
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Hi
I would certainly be interested in looking at the .pdf as I have 2x Hudl 1 both of which have been factory reset before I knew Tesco no longer supported them and had swithched off the server.
Thx
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Hi, Happy to let you have a copy, but please see my reply to KingUsman re how best to do it. Not sure why the forums are so restrictive...
My sympathies on being landed with 2 'dead' HUDLs by Tesco - you certainly won't have been alone in this, given the popularity of this tablet and continued buoyancy of the second hand market before the event....
Cheers,
Viv
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I can also offer you a couple of workround solutions which I’ve tested on a factory-reset HUDL1, and documented as a detailed instruction set within a .pdf file.
Since it isn’t possible to attach anything other than image files to this post. I’ve transferred the file to Google drive. Unfortunately as a new user, it does not appear to be possible for me to include the shareable link within this reply to allow you access…..
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Hi Viv,
I've sent you a PM, and hope you can share the link to the PDF that way?
Thanks,
Rob.
viv001 said:
Hi,
Since I'm new to this forum and there do seem to be quite a few restrictions on exchange of data, I'll need some advice on how to give folks access to the pdf file. As you'll appreciate, the amount of info is too large to insert into a post 'longhand', so a separate document was really the only way to go with this.
I suspect there will be quite a bit of interest, and it would be a shame if the site's restrictions prevented me from sharing the info.
I notice there is an icon on the post compilation page entitled 'Insert email link' - what exactly does this do, and could we use it to exchange email addresses offline ? I've no objection to corresponding with interested individuals, but I'd rather not broadcast my address too widely....
Cheers, Viv
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I've sent you a PM, can you see if you can send the link through there? If not maybe you can try enter it here with spaces between and see if that works
Sorry, folks - I've tried to unravel the complexities of exchanging information via this forum, but they do seem to me to be insuperable for a 'novice' user. I'll have to explore other ways of sharing the information....
In the meantime, best of luck finding ways to reactivate your HUDLs,
Cheers,
Viv
viv001 said:
Sorry, folks - I've tried to unravel the complexities of exchanging information via this forum, but they do seem to me to be insuperable for a 'novice' user. I'll have to explore other ways of sharing the information....
In the meantime, best of luck finding ways to reactivate your HUDLs,
Cheers,
Viv
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If you can upload the PDF to this link
https://www.dropbox.com/request/l3mJsUEvPhWvZtMR2mLM
I'll be able to share it with others for you.
Thanks to both you and Viv for helping out with this. If you manage to get that available on dropbox I would be keen (and very grateful) for a copy.
The restrictions on this forum do seem quite onerous. My original attempt to post a reply was rejected because it quoted your post which contained a link!
Thanks
FIXED!
I just managed to get past the setup wizard and get both my Hudl 1's back into service. The problem is not that the Tesco server is gone, but that it's certificate expired on 26th June. If you can escape the wizard and get to settings to set the Hudl's time to before that date the wizard completes successfully.
I've written up how I escaped the wizard and got into the settings to do this - it's s combination of information from this thread and stuff I've found elsewhere, none of it is really mine . No rooting or USB debuuging required.
Find the write up here: Apparently I haven't posted enough here to be able to post the actual link, so try this ....
https colon slash slash rob dot themayfamily dot me dot uk slash hudl
If someone with enough privileges could post an actual link for others to click that would be excellent.
I hope this is useful. Please let me know if you find better/easier ways to achieve the same end effect. If I get time I'll have a look to see if the setup wizard can more easily be disabled, but for now this has got me where I need to be.
Enjoy,
Rob.
[Edited to add: you can find a clickable link under the Home Page in the contact info of my profile]
TigerRob, I went to the website and tried. It still says failed to connect. I did the same thing you did by resetting thinking it was a good idea but totally forgotten about this being a thing with hudls. Im gonna try again and hope for the best.
EDIT: OMG IT WORKS!!!! I guess setting it to 2015 was a bad idea. Should of checked before and set to 22/11/19. Thanks dude!
lemurmad said:
TigerRob, I went to the website and tried. It still says failed to connect. I did the same thing you did by resetting thinking it was a good idea but totally forgotten about this being a thing with hudls. Im gonna try again and hope for the best.
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Sorry, but not sure what website you went to. If you go to my site there are step by step instructions for recovering - but I still don't have enough posts here to link to it directly. If you click on 'TigerRob' to the left of this post and then follow the link to 'view profile' and then click on the 'Contact Info' tab you will find a link under the 'Home Page' - follow that to my write-up.
I've had a couple of other people confirm that they've made it work - let me know how you get on.
I'm working on a custom ROM, based on the latest stock ROM (JDQ39.20140424.153851) that will have the following features:
- boot 'chime' disabled
- setup wizard & Tesco updates disabled
- Tesco apps and branding removed
- Remaining stock apps updated to latest available for JellyBean/4.2.2
I'm probably a week away from having something that can be tested - if you're interested in having early sight and helping test then please let me know by replying here or PM'ing me.
Rob.
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Rob, thanks for what is probably the best described fix I've ever seen for a tech problem. It worked perfectly, just as you described at every step, including the lack of download of the settings app so I went back and reset the hudl again but was quicker through the process second time. Excellent job! Rob
lemurmad said:
TigerRob, I went to the website and tried. It still says failed to connect. I did the same thing you did by resetting thinking it was a good idea but totally forgotten about this being a thing with hudls. Im gonna try again and hope for the best.
EDIT: OMG IT WORKS!!!! I guess setting it to 2015 was a bad idea. Should of checked before and set to 22/11/19. Thanks dude!
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I'll add an instruction not to go too far in the past . The Hudl talks to other sites during setup, and if they have certificates then those certificates will have 'not before' dates, and if you set the time before these dates then those communications will fail ...
TMF Custom ROM v0.1 (for HUdl 1)
I have a working custom ROM that is currently running on 3 of my Hudl's. If any with a bit of experience of flashing the Hudl want to give it a shot then drop me a PM and I'll share a link - but I'd like to get some confidence of it working on other devices before I open up to general downloads.
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Rob.
This ROM is not Rooted. It just works around the issue of not being able to complete the setup wizard but disabling it and removes most of the Tesco branding. More information once I have confidence that it's good for wider distribution