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Hello everyone, how are you?
I'm new to this Board and pretty much new to Android too. I got myself a shiny new HTC Hero about 1 Month ago and this Phone is perfectly what i'm looking for. I love it to the Bits, but have one huge Problem, which i wasn't able to solve yet:
My Phone, even now after the Update is extremely lagging and behaving weird. First i noticed after some Time using it, that my Hero started to change Screens from itself, always running to the Screen on the far right Side. Now it becomes worse every day. Its most notable when i'm going out of the Standby Mode. It takes about 5 Seconds until it reacts to any Inputs. It takes like another 5 Seconds until it works in kinda normal Speed. And since 2 Days or so, i constantly see the Error "TouchFLO" not reacting. Force it to close or wait.. This appears more constant everyday now and made the Hero really difficult to use.
I have been on Symbian a long long Time and i'm very satisfied that i finally took the Jump to Android, but this annoys the Hell out of me.
So if anyone has a Hint on how to solve this Problem, i would greatly appreciate it!
Thanks
Michael
MichaelSF said:
Hello everyone, how are you?
I'm new to this Board and pretty much new to Android too. I got myself a shiny new HTC Hero about 1 Month ago and this Phone is perfectly what i'm looking for. I love it to the Bits, but have one huge Problem, which i wasn't able to solve yet:
My Phone, even now after the Update is extremely lagging and behaving weird. First i noticed after some Time using it, that my Hero started to change Screens from itself, always running to the Screen on the far right Side. Now it becomes worse every day. Its most notable when i'm going out of the Standby Mode. It takes about 5 Seconds until it reacts to any Inputs. It takes like another 5 Seconds until it works in kinda normal Speed. And since 2 Days or so, i constantly see the Error "TouchFLO" not reacting. Force it to close or wait.. This appears more constant everyday now and made the Hero really difficult to use.
I have been on Symbian a long long Time and i'm very satisfied that i finally took the Jump to Android, but this annoys the Hell out of me.
So if anyone has a Hint on how to solve this Problem, i would greatly appreciate it!
Thanks
Michael
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I had this problem and found it was something like dust stuck under the trackball making it move. I pushed and spun the trackball a few times and that seemed to solve it for me.
i dont think the Trackball is the Problem. It seems more like a software issue, as those TouchFLO Software Issues keep appearing and appearing and make the Phone more and more not usable
MichaelSF said:
i dont think the Trackball is the Problem. It seems more like a software issue, as those TouchFLO Software Issues keep appearing and appearing and make the Phone more and more not usable
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MichelSF, I too faced the same problem from time to time. I am not sure of what you mean when you say that the TouchFLO software keeps on appearing from time to time. In my case the screens would move over to the right automagically and all I used to do was move the trackball a bit and it would stop. I can still see that occasionally but it is fixed when i move the trackball. I would therefore concur with nicelad_uk that the trackball gets stuck and that causes this behaviour.
BTW, you said something about the update, what did you update it to? I updated mine to the modaco 2.2 rom and its been all fine ever since. I do occasionally see a stutter on certain menus but am happy with it. If it helps you any bit, you could install the android sdk and use the 'adb logcat -v time' command to view the debug messages that the phone churns out. You would also need to install htcsync and so on and that would indicate what the phone's doing while being unresponsive.
HTH.
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I am not sure of what you mean when you say that the TouchFLO software keeps on appearing from time to time.
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i get an error pop-up that TouchFLO is not reacting.I can then either wait or force it to close. If i force it to close, the whole Start Screen is rebooting, but not the Phone. So i can access the Menu and Notification Bar, but it takes a bit until the Start Screen appears again - i hope you Guys get what i mean by that! A good Friend said this could be a Memory Leak, or being caused by Widgets that doesnt work well. I have now disabled most of the Widgets i have (Music Player, Mails, Messages, Weather), now just using the Clock and a Contact Bar. Strangely, the Phone works really well now again ..
...Man, this is confusing and annoying!
s1977 said:
BTW, you said something about the update, what did you update it to? I updated mine to the modaco 2.2 rom and its been all fine ever since. I do occasionally see a stutter on certain menus but am happy with it. If it helps you any bit, you could install the android sdk and use the 'adb logcat -v time' command to view the debug messages that the phone churns out. You would also need to install htcsync and so on and that would indicate what the phone's doing while being unresponsive.
HTH.
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phew .. to be honest, i dont know really to what exactly we updated it. My Buddy updated it to the latest Version.. i'm such a newb on android, sorry
You need to ask your buddy if he wiped before he updated the ROM.
Regards,
Dave
ah yes, he did ..
thanks a lot for the suggestions so far.. still have all the widgets gone from the home screens, still all good.. strange
Hey!
I've noticed that in a few applications (or settings) i have issues with my touch-input. This is e.g when changing the default ringtone i can't just tap "ok" but have to press the "ok" button from the side with my whole finger, otherwise it won't be regocnised. Sometimes when using the keyboard, the buttons on the right side are very hard to use. That would be the "p" "l" and "backspace". Have anyone else had this problem? The weird thing is that sometimes it works perfect, but sometimes it's just a pain in the ass to get things done?
I think sometimes the touch screen can just not work properly, just luck of the draw I guess.
Has yours always been like this or is it a recent change? I am assuming its always been like this.
if it has then its a hardware failure (most likely) and will need to go back under warranty for repair.
If its a new change, then what has happened to cause it? Could just be a new rom or something causing the calibration to be off.
It hasn't always been like this. Lately it has begun to screw with me. And i don't think it has anything to do with luck, since it's always the same programs that do this. e.g. changing ringtone, accepting the google maps license on first run etc.
One could think this is a hardware failure, that's what i thought at first, but the strange thing is, that the same "area" on the screen works prefectly in other applications. I've tried several roms, but they all act like this. Perhaps I should install the stock rom and try with that.
I have a similar issue, and even more, sometimes once I am pressing the screen, the keys are starting to "dance" like the hero is trying to think which button to choose, by itself, and I am watching it, and smiling :-(
I've had it since SenseHero 1.5 and others as well. I just reinstalled the official htc rom and calibrated again the screen... but I am afraid the issue is still there, though less frequent...
Next week at the doorsteps of Orange I guess
Possibly is lag related?
Maybe the phones memory management is not working very well on the ROM you have installed and is causing large amounts of lag that the phone is interpreting touches (or not touches).
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Possibly is lag related?
Maybe the phones memory management is not working very well on the ROM you have installed and is causing large amounts of lag that the phone is interpreting touches (or not touches).
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Possible, But with all the speed tweaks, task killer and stuff, maybe even the overclock widget that I started to use only after this issue appeared... don't know, have no idea how to solve it.
Now it is like beginning, with official htc rom, no additional apps installed neither contacts, and still, I have this issue.
Suggestion?
Got the exact same problem.
Almost exclusively buttons on the bottom of the screen and as you already said the right part of the keyboard (especially the goddamn backspace drives me nuts sometimes!).
It hasn't always been like this, started somewhen after flashing more than just Modaco I think.. And the severity varies a lot, sometimes I got barely any issues and then again I can't even finish an sms. Unnerving.
At htcpedia someone who obviously has the same problem pm'ed me his solution:
Your Problem with Screen
I had to wipe everything of.... installed the WWE original ROM, then re-root the phone and now working with Modacco 3.1, seems to be working ok now....think the problem was with LOX latest ROM.
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I think - not sure - it startet with some lox rom for me too. Do you remember which Rom you were using when this first occured?
Well anyway, might give it a try.
I haven't tried it yet for 3 reasons:
1 - the link for the german version of the original firmware is down
2 - i don't have a windows computer, so the .exe is pretty much useless for me
3 - I'm way too lazy as currently it's not that bad
same problem
hye there, I seldomly post here..
But i got the same problem before... keyboard dances, hard to click OK... could not finish a sms without swearing F*** F***..
yep, its a hardware problem.. maybe its bcoz of the shape of the hero making its touch screen easily damage.. Not sure though..
flashed so many roms, to try to fix this problem.. thought it was a software issue.. but.... nothing..
went to HTC care centre.. and changed the touch screen (warranty, had to revert everything to stock) and now...
Good as New with Villain 3.4
hope this helps...
Oh thx guys. "Happy" not to be the only one with this issue. For starters I'll try the solution with the original rom. I think I still have some version of windows installed on one of my harddrives. If it don't work I'll have the screen changed. I'll report soon.
rehet said:
hye there, I seldomly post here..
But i got the same problem before... keyboard dances, hard to click OK... could not finish a sms without swearing F*** F***..
yep, its a hardware problem.. maybe its bcoz of the shape of the hero making its touch screen easily damage.. Not sure though..
flashed so many roms, to try to fix this problem.. thought it was a software issue.. but.... nothing..
went to HTC care centre.. and changed the touch screen (warranty, had to revert everything to stock) and now...
Good as New with Villain 3.4
hope this helps...
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When you revert to stock Rom, do you need to reinstall a stock recovery as well? or is it automatic? because I reverted and when I try to boot into recovery with "power + home" I get a kind of error: the symbol of a triangle with an exclamation mark in it, and a phone symbol lies down beneath it.
Is there another way to go into recovery? or is it not installed actually? (I went back to the official RUU from htc site).
Thanks for the help.
Ok, I've just tried the solution with the stock rom. As a matter of fact, it does fix the keyboard-issues. However, some of the other random touch-input-issues still persist. I can't really see how this could be hardwarebased, since the same area on the screen works in other applications just fine.
The official rom from HTC completly restores your phone as it was when you got it. You'll have to install your custom recovery again, as you did the first time.
I had a similar issue.
A fix for this: VillainROM6.1-Full-signed.
Now, keyboard its ok.
Try it.
I do not have any screen protector
A band of my screen is unresponsive
If you open the Gmail app, it is the fourth email down
In landscape mode with Gingerbread keyboard, the letters F and C are affected
If I touch a section of the screen by the speaker and light sensor, not on the screen itself, the phone goes HAYWIRE.... literally starts pressing keys all on it's own, randomly. Sometimes holds keys down until I touch another part of the screen. Sometimes even hits the HOME softkey!
I think my phone is possessed.
For those who know a thing or two about phones........ would you believe this to be a HARDWARE or SOFTWARE issue? I'm planning on doing the 4.1.83 jump this weekend when I have some free time, hoping that will fix it, but if it doesn't, time for a new phone it looks like! Would like to know if this issue is a hardware issue and to save myself some hours screwing around with it if I should just head over to AT&T first....
Thanks in advance!
just realized I've got a unresponsive area on my screen as well. My unresponsive area is where the top, first of four, rows are on the home screen. doesn't matter if I'm looking at the home screen or pressing on that area within an app.
1.83 + root + sideloading + greyblur
** edit ** never mind... it magically started working. don't know why/how.
Updated to 4.1.83 and the screen is still screwed..... was so close to getting this thing perfect!!! Oh well, off to AT&T after flashing back to factory now....
EDIT - Okay, I guess not.... called the AT&T store to find out what I needed to bring with me to exchange, they don't do exchanges on devices older than 30 days - told me to call the repair center without telling me the Atrix isn't one of the phones the repair center has to exchange, so called warranty and got a refurbished Atrix on the way to me on Monday! What a hassle, but hopefully this will all be resolved soon....
I have this exact problem but when I updated to 1.83 it rarely happens to me now but before when I updated to 1.57 it was just like what you said... my phone was being possessed, lol.... anyway what I did was first, flashed sbf 1.26... updated via OTA to 1.83 then root using gingerbreak...before I installed GingerBlur 3.1
It still happens once in a while but its so much better now than before... also, if you have alot of widgets on your homescreens you might want to romove some..... dunno if that would help you but it did to me, hope this helps
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I have this exact problem but when I updated to 1.83 it rarely happens to me now but before when I updated to 1.57 it was just like what you said... my phone was being possessed, lol.... anyway what I did was first, flashed sbf 1.26... updated via OTA to 1.83 then root using gingerbreak...before I installed GingerBlur 3.1
It still happens once in a while but its so much better now than before... also, if you have alot of widgets on your homescreens you might want to romove some..... dunno if that would help you but it did to me, hope this helps
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I have a bunch of widgets on my homescreen, but that wasn't the issue - the issue was the screen itself.... Got a new one through warranty, TiBU on the old phone, went through the update process up to 4.1.83, restored from TiBU, and I'm back to having a working phone without any loss of response from the screen!
Hi first of all sorry about my English.
Ok my phone has an at&t froyo i just install superuser, slide loading, the weptop hack and the sim unlocked.
I'm using spb 3d launcher and every time i do a restart it seems that the spb it's working on his on, if a let it awake charging some times it's go to some shortcut like if i press it but i didn't (that didn't bother me too much ).
but two days ago one part of the top of the touch screen stop working i can't select the shortcuts on the top of the screen. and yersterday the phone got possessed and start opening thinks randomly. i just uninstall spb and it seems to stop with the gibberish. but today it's the same i can't use phone because i just simple touch the screen and it start again with the gibberish movements.
i'm going to do a restore and i if that fix the gibberish but the part of the screen that doesn't respond is what i worry the most. I'm from Tijuana, Mexico i buy the atrix on craiglist from some guy in san diego, ca. he said that the phone was warranty until feb 2012.
Please help any one
I reset my phone and still the same parts of the screen does not respond and the screen start shaking and doing thing uncontrol.
Please could be sw or is the hardware and i need to change the phone.
Sounds like a hardware problem.
Not sure what the problem could be.....there's a girl I know who's had similar problems, I'll ask her or put you in touch with her. Sounds like yer digitizer?
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Hi first of all sorry about my English.
Ok my phone has an at&t froyo i just install superuser, slide loading, the weptop hack and the sim unlocked.
I'm using spb 3d launcher and every time i do a restart it seems that the spb it's working on his on, if a let it awake charging some times it's go to some shortcut like if i press it but i didn't (that didn't bother me too much ).
but two days ago one part of the top of the touch screen stop working i can't select the shortcuts on the top of the screen. and yersterday the phone got possessed and start opening thinks randomly. i just uninstall spb and it seems to stop with the gibberish. but today it's the same i can't use phone because i just simple touch the screen and it start again with the gibberish movements.
i'm going to do a restore and i if that fix the gibberish but the part of the screen that doesn't respond is what i worry the most. I'm from Tijuana, Mexico i buy the atrix on craiglist from some guy in san diego, ca. he said that the phone was warranty until feb 2012.
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I am having the same issue, this was on CM7 only flashed yesterday and then I tried to restore my backup rom and this has the same issue??
Hope someone can sort out the problem.
It sounds like a hardware problem in which you should;
A) buy a whole new screen and install it (they will give you the tools to take it apart)
B) Send it back to Motorola if you haven't voided your warranty by unlocking the phone
or
C) this is a long shot as I do think it is hardware related, you should try this fix just to be sure that it is a hardware problem. Mind you this will do nothing more than refresh the .pds file that affects the touchscreen. Touchscreen fix!
definetly sounds like a broken digitizer to me
I have taken my phone in for repair(Not a official MOTO repairer) and I just got a phone call, he believes it is a software issue? I am not convinced, because I have tried 4 different roms? He said he is going to format/wipe phone. I told him I have installed roms to replace software and I thought that this would wipe/replace software problem?
Anyway I guess, I will found out if it sorts out the random screen movement and widget press?
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I have taken my phone in for repair(Not a official MOTO repairer) and I just got a phone call, he believes it is a software issue? I am not convinced, because I have tried 4 different roms? He said he is going to format/wipe phone. I told him I have installed roms to replace software and I thought that this would wipe/replace software problem?
Anyway I guess, I will found out if it sorts out the random screen movement and widget press?
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I got the phone back yesterday, all working ok.
I quickly broke it again by trying to install a stock rom and then root it, but it introduced the same random screen/widget issues(I tried wipe/format, but no good?). I then install 2 custom rom, CM7 and Aura and I still had problems, then I install HomeBase and problem has been sorted. Have no idea why it fixed the issue just happy it is fixed. Just to have refrain from installing other roms......for now anyway
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I got the phone back yesterday, all working ok.
I quickly broke it again by trying to install a stock rom and then root it, but it introduced the same random screen/widget issues(I tried wipe/format, but no good?). I then install 2 custom rom, CM7 and Aura and I still had problems, then I install HomeBase and problem has been sorted. Have no idea why it fixed the issue just happy it is fixed. Just to have refrain from installing other roms......for now anyway
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I spoke to soon, last night it started the random screen judder and random widget pressing.....
I am not sure what is going on....I've had the phone for about 12 days now(second hand from eBay) and for the first 4-5 days the phone was fine. I then installed CM7 and for about 12-24 hours the phone was ok. Then the random screen/widget issues happened. Did many, many wipe's/formats of various roms and all these issue occurred more or less straight away.
Then I installed HomeBase and for about 6-8 hours, all was ok until lastnight. I guess it is either new motherboard time or new phone time....
Sometimes when im using MP my back buttong is not working, no vibrate and doesnt even respond with vibrate. what could be the cause of this problem? anyone experience this?
Me too. This happened after I update my mp to the latest version. But not often it happens like this
Sent from my SK17i using XDA App
Same here.
I wasn't aware this problem until I flashed CM7.2.
Does someone experience this in stock rom?
And I find that it usually happens when I wake up in the morning or from afternoon rest for 2-3 hours.The variation in environment condition,such as moisture,may cause that to occur?
noradoor said:
Same here.
I wasn't aware this problem until I flashed CM7.2.
Does someone experience this in stock rom?
And I find that it usually happens when I wake up in the morning or from afternoon rest for 2-3 hours.The variation in environment condition,such as moisture,may cause that to occur?
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if its caused by a moisture then i guess its just me that cause this i dont like my things to get dirty kind of person, theres one time, i clean my mp with a wet towel lol
Izzy Stinson said:
if its caused by a moisture then i guess its just me that cause this i dont like my things to get dirty kind of person, theres one time, i clean my mp with a wet towel lol
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lol.
Actually,I clean my mp with wet tissue occasionally.Please correct me if that's a wrong way to maintain it.
But I sometimes found the touchscreen humid and my back button happened to fail.
Anyway,it returns to normal after I reboot.Annoying~
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lol.
Actually,I clean my mp with wet tissue occasionally.Please correct me if that's a wrong way to maintain it.
But I sometimes found the touchscreen humid and my back button happened to fail.
Anyway,it returns to normal after I reboot.Annoying~
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True, needs reboot im using stock rom not rooted, .62 FW XMP Black
hi.
i have also had problems with the back button on my SK17i playing up. I haven't updated my phone past 2.3, O2 are so kind and won't let me.
Now unless I'm a really soggy person, my back key decides it doesn't want to work today when my phone is bone dry (to me anyway). It did have an episode where it was in a pocket of a tent where alot of condensation gathered, but the back key was playing up before then...
I'm getting really frustrated by this as the only way i have to be able to get the key working again is to turn it off then back on. My phone isn't rooted or anything...it just decides (more frequently as the days go by) "you want to go back...nah not today methinks..." I'm getting to the point where I'm considering throwing in the towel and just getting a whole new phone...
Aha. I knew I couldn't be alone.
Facing this across two three roms now.
Gets more severe as the days go by.
Regards
N
i know its kindda of on an old thread haha..... but.. hmmm it seems its fairly common, anyone has a solution? im having the issue too, i have to reboot to fix it.... thanks in advance
I have the same problem, and for me it definitely started after the OTA update to ICS. But, when I go back to [flash stock] GB it's still there.
When I installed CM9 (and later CM10) the problem was gone, gone, gone... So lovely...
Unfortunately I had other problems with these ROMs that in the end drove me insane (!!!)
So now I am on a stock-based custom ROM, which is super fast and smooth [w/ rage kernel 3.2] and it took me a while before I realized the problem came back so obviously for me it's something that comes with the stock rom (that gor changed with the upgrade, but doesn't change with a downgrade, to GB).
Also, I noticed that if I press really hard it works as it should -in realizing this I remembered that I had similar problems caused by a protective film I used in the beginning, but when I upgraded [the protective film] to one of substacially higher quality this wasn't a problem anymore. But now if I peel up the corner by the back button it is clear that it gets way more responsive... But not enough to say it's back to normal.
These are the things I have been able to gather about this issue. But I guess all you really need to know is that if you use CM9 (or CM10) [w/ extended kernel] this problem is not an issue anymore -so what does that mean...?