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I've searched Amazon for the HDMI out cable (mini-usb to HDMI) and it came up with a lot of EVO 4G compatible ones, will that one work or not? I recall viewing a video review saying the hdmi cable for the EVO 4G isn't compatible with the 3D Evo, but I could be mistaken.
You NEED a micro-usb to hdmi cable. the ones for the evo 4g are JUST mini-HDMI to regular HDMI. Check the HTC website or wait until after the 3D comes out; there should be plenty coming out (it might even be included when you buy the phone?)
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I've searched Amazon for the HDMI out cable (mini-usb to HDMI) and it came up with a lot of EVO 4G compatible ones, will that one work or not? I recall viewing a video review saying the hdmi cable for the EVO 4G isn't compatible with the 3D Evo, but I could be mistaken.
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No, we need mhl cable.
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Overstew said:
I've searched Amazon for the HDMI out cable (mini-usb to HDMI) and it came up with a lot of EVO 4G compatible ones, will that one work or not? I recall viewing a video review saying the hdmi cable for the EVO 4G isn't compatible with the 3D Evo, but I could be mistaken.
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Mini
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10242
Micro
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10253
I have a Micro-HDMI for my EVO. I haven't read what size the port on the 3D is so I can't say for sure. From Monoprice you could buy both and still pay less than you would buying from Sprint or HTC.
Edit: Apparently according to this it doesn't have one, it uses some different method of USB to HDMI
http://phandroid.com/2011/03/28/htc...lity-without-an-hdmi-port-thanks-t-mhl-video/
It's a Micro USB to HDMI connection. The biggest benefit is that it charges your phone while connected. Biggest drawback, your TV has to have compatibility built into it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-definition_Link
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/04/mhl-port-on-htc-evo-3d-and-evo-view-4g.html
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No, we need mhl cable.
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This is correct, I didn't read this post before responding the first time
Whoa whoa, how do I know what tvs support it?
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All TVs that have HDMI input (basically all of them now) support it.
Actually, no tv's support mhl right now, but they will be able to do hdmi out with the cable, but just not charge at the same time, but htc also said they have an adapter to charge while doing hdmi out
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Actually, no tv's support mhl right now, but they will be able to do hdmi out with the cable, but just not charge at the same time, but htc also said they have an adapter to charge while doing hdmi out
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Sorry, I should have clarified. You're right. I was just talking about video out from the phone to the TV. The charging stuff, I'm not sure about.
Your tv will support it, you will have a dongle that attaches to from the micro usb to the mini HDMI port that provides function to the TV. Its called MHL technology and its very exciting. Charging your phone while you watch movies on your phone on your LCD or LED television is awesome. There are many, many functions for this technology and they are just starting to test what it is we really need to get this working without the dongle that is required without the TV or monitor needing the technology. Youtube MHL Technology and you will find your answer.
Just read in one of the links in this post that mhl does not support 3d...so how do u output 3d video to a 3d tv?
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Just read in one of the links in this post that mhl does not support 3d...so how do u output 3d video to a 3d tv?
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Still learning about this myself but from what I've read with mhl v.1.0 you can't, it doesn't support it. I don't know if the port will eventually be able to support it with later versions of the standard. Also, if you buy a cable when they're first available it's possible they'll only support 1.0 and you might need a new cable when later revisions of the standard are finalized to support the new features (similar to HDMI).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
Kind of disappointed that I'll have to buy an adapter for my phone to charge while using HDMI out, this technology is cool, but the downside is that no TVs support it (yet). And I just bought a 42" like two weeks ago.
Am I mistaken or will all the 3D pics/vids essentially will only be viewable on EVO 3Ds? Like you'll see them but they won't be in 3D, regardless of TV or monitor claiming 3D functionality.
So now that the phone is out, has anyone tried out a generic micro usb to HDMI on the EVO 3D?
I can't seem to find any tv-out cables specific to the EVO 3D, so I want to be sure any micro usb to HDMI cable will work.
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So now that the phone is out, has anyone tried out a generic micro usb to HDMI on the EVO 3D?
I can't seem to find any tv-out cables specific to the EVO 3D, so I want to be sure any micro usb to HDMI cable will work.
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Micro usb won't work. You need.an MHL adapter. Then a regular hdmi cable plugs into the MHL adapter, and you plug your charging cable into the MHL adapter so it charges while its mirroring hdmi.
http://www.google.com/m/products?gl...products&ei=N7UvTvCrAYmKiAKe4-w1&ved=0CCYQzQM
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Does anyone even make a micro USB to HDMI cable? I have the adapter dongle thingy, but I'm curious what would happen if it was just a cable instead of a dongle.
lol.....dongle
This is a real disapointment. I bought a micro Genie cable for my EVO 4G. Now it sits there wasting away. I can't understand why they couldn't keep the mini Genie port on the 3D. Now I got to spend another 40-50$ if i want to hook my 3D up to hdmi.
FAIL
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I grabbed an MHL adapter over at T-Mobile for $20. Works like a charm. Search their site for the Sensation data accessories.
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I grabbed an MHL adapter over at T-Mobile for $20. Works like a charm. Search their site for the Sensation data accessories.
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Interesting - does that adapter also give you a port to charge while you do TV Out? It's impossible to tell from the small picture on t-mobile site and for some reason the "details" link doesn't work.
Does anybody have any info on when this cable will be available? I was also wondering if anyone knows if I can play the 3D Movie from my phone on my 3D T.V. with this cable.
I don't have a 3D tv, so I can't test the 3D aspect of the cable, but I have tested the HDMI mirroring.
I ordered the MHL adaptor from T-Mobile's website. Look under the "data" accessories for the Sensation.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Addons/Accessories/Default.aspx
It was $19 plus shipping. I tried a few local T-Mo stores, but nobody had it.
Anyway, I tested it last night. You need to have a charger, a normal HDMI cable, and the adaptor. The adaptor plugs into your phone's USB port, and then you need to plug the adaptor into your phone's charger and into the HDMI cable running to the TV.
You'll get full HDMI mirroring, meaning whatever is on your phone's display is on the TV. I only tested for a few minutes, but when I first attached it, there was a portrait view of my phone's screen up on the TV. I then tested both Netflix and HBO Go, which both flipped the image to landscape, filling the TV screen. Quality was pretty good with Netflix, and only adequate with HBO Go.
Hope that helps!
Rob
Anyone tested a non-MHL micro-USB to HDMI? I don't need charging, just want to display to a non-3D set.
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Anyone tested a non-MHL micro-USB to HDMI? I don't need charging, just want to display to a non-3D set.
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No such thing. Must be plugged in to charge in order for the HDMI out to work.
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Anyone tested a non-MHL micro-USB to HDMI? I don't need charging, just want to display to a non-3D set.
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Show me a non-MHL micro-USB to HDMI adapter/cable.
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What a crappy setup. I MUCH prefer the Evo 4G way. With this I have to carry my charger, the USB cord for the charger, a full size HDMI cable, and this adapter? LAME.
You know there's a search button right? There are about 20 threads loaded with MHL information.
Bought the HTC mhl adapter today but it won't work. Says no signal on the tv. Anyone use this yet? I have poet to it and all cables plugged in
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maybe u got a bad adapter? maybe there is a setting you need to enable?
Tried 2 brand new adapters and nothing and everthing I've read says no settings, it should just work.
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Try reading this.
http://htcpedia.com/news/htc-rezound-tv-out-connect-via-hdmi.html
Followed that originally and it didn't work
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You probably got a bad adapter. Or does your TV support the resolution that the Rez outputs?
Just got my MHL in the mail and works great.
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Got a different rezound and video works but no sound through tv, comes out of the phone?
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I just tried it yesterday and it worked great!
I have one I am using from my girl friends Infuse and it didn't work at 1st for me. My problem was that I was just pluging it into the phone and HDMI to the TV. When using it you have to by plug into power to get it to work or so it would seem for me.
Yes you need to plug the adapter into the phone, the charger into the adapter and an hdmi cable from the adapter to the tv. Works great just a pain compared to micro hdmi out! You can buy all the stuff you need from monoprice.com for less than the official MHL adapter.
I have the monoprice one. I can confirm: it HAS to be connected to power (charger or USB both work) to function, not just if you want the phone to charge while using the adapter.
Quoting myself from the other MHL thread:
What I did was use a short HDMI cable, short micro USB cable plugged into one of my TVs USB ports for power, and then mounted the adapter to the back of my TV with velco. I then use a micro usb extension cable to connect the adapter to my phone, cutting down a TON on the octopus effect. And I can always disconnect the adapter to take it with me somewhere.
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I recently purchased a "ikross USB to HDMI" adapter on amazon, supposedly supported by the HTC Amaze. However, when i plug the adapter in connected to my TV(s), nothing happens on the phone or tv.
Im guessing I need some kind of 'drivers' on the phone to enable this feature.
Also, my problem might be stemming from the fact that i am running Beastmod v2.2.
Can anyone point me in the right direction for these adapters?
Thanks
I don't believe you purchased the rite thing, I was reading and interested in running hdmi from my amaze, I have read most places you need to purchase an MHL converter, that's why the plug on the phone is the funny square shape
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I don't believe you purchased the rite thing, I was reading and interested in running hdmi from my amaze, I have read most places you need to purchase an MHL converter, that's why the plug on the phone is the funny square shape
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Mhl uses micro USB, so you don't need a special port on the adapter.
My guess for op is that it might be the ROM. I use bullet proof, and my Mhl to hdmi adapter works fine.
Final, try making a backup of your current ROM, flash a ROM with sense, and try again.
Edit: Also, this should be in accessories
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Huh I figured cause if you look in the port beyond the USB there are other pins I figured it requires a special plug to reach those pins
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Huh I figured cause if you look in the port beyond the USB there are other pins I figured it requires a special plug to reach those pins
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The port on the Amaze is a proprietary HTC design, called EXTUSB. It allows the device to get more power while charging, but it is also backwards compatible with microusb cables.
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I don't believe you purchased the rite thing, I was reading and interested in running hdmi from my amaze, I have read most places you need to purchase an MHL converter, that's why the plug on the phone is the funny square shape
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I got one of those, and it works IF you also plug a USB charging cable separately into the adapter - thanks for the stupid design HTC.
In order to do the hdmi out can you use a miniusb or does the adapter have to have the extusb?
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Also if I am reading this right you need a TV with the MHL chip in it for this to work:
Sorry I'm not allowed to post links yet...
gigaom.com/video/htc-mhl-usb-hdmi/
Wouldnt a standard micro HDMI to HDMI cable work? I typically use a standard micro usb cable to plug into my work computer without issue
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Wouldnt a standard micro HDMI to HDMI cable work? I typically use a standard micro usb cable to plug into my work computer without issue
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I'm confused, where are you plugging it into on the phone? Does microhdmi fit in the extusb port?
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The port on the Amaze is a proprietary HTC design, called EXTUSB. It allows the device to get more power while charging, but it is also backwards compatible with microusb cables.
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tppickles said:
Wouldnt a standard micro HDMI to HDMI cable work? I typically use a standard micro usb cable to plug into my work computer without issue
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I'm confused, where are you plugging it into on the phone? Does microhdmi fit in the extusb port?
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All wrong. A simple Google will show you that EXTUSB was the port HTC used in the days of the T-Mo Wing, G1, and myTouch 3G.
The miniHDMI connector does NOT fit the Amaze. I wish I knew what our port was called... I'll report in if I can find it. But I know it's not EXTUSB
I recently bought Cable Matters Micro USB to HDMI MHL Adapter from Amazon. I have had success using it on stock phone, quicksense v3.0.0 and currently beastmod 2.3.0.
Just to set the record clear. The port on the Amaze 4G is called an MHL connector. It's not a proprietary HTC port, but a seemingly new industry standard. Just search wikipedia for MHL and you can read all about it.
Punchline is that you get a single port that can output HDMI and connect via USB in one go. Supposedly with the proper adapter your phone will charge while connected to an HDMI source. You can definitely use a standard micro USB cable on the MHL port if you just need to charge or connect to a computer via USB.
The one I bought, the power cable must be attached.
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The one I bought, the power cable must be attached.
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That's what Mr. Moo is getting at. MHL ports allows simultaneous output and charging; though I'm not sure they both need to be connected for either to work.
In my experience, the MHL with power connected doesn't really charge the phone. My battery still drains slowly while connected. Is that just me?
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In my experience, the MHL with power connected doesn't really charge the phone. My battery still drains slowly while connected. Is that just me?
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Happens to me too
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HTC calls the port ExtMicro USB. It's backwards compatible with Micro-USB plugs (the five leads on the flange you see on the front), but the proprietary plug has 12 pins total.
I was getting intermittent performance with a Micro-USB MHL-HDMI adapter, and had to have a Micro-USB charger attached.
The HTC adapter for the Amaze (and Flyer, and Rezound) is AC-M500, a 12-pin adapter with HDMI-out, Audio-out (3.5mm) and an ExtMicro USB port. I have pics of these on WikiMedia, and in a thread in the Rezound section.
I wish I could tell you what the 7 additional leads do that a conventional MHL-HDMI adapter doesn't ... and HTC isn't talking. (US Tech Support couldn't even confirm the that the port is different, only the recommended adapter.) aLogCat recorded some HDCP messages when I connected the phone with this adapter to a Dell ST2410 24" monitor that's been reported for not supporting HDCP-controlled HDMI video. When I connected my Amaze to a Samsung T27A300 1080P HDTV, it worked fine.
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finaldark said:
I recently purchased a "ikross USB to HDMI" adapter on amazon, supposedly supported by the HTC Amaze. However, when i plug the adapter in connected to my TV(s), nothing happens on the phone or tv.
Im guessing I need some kind of 'drivers' on the phone to enable this feature.
Also, my problem might be stemming from the fact that i am running Beastmod v2.2.
Can anyone point me in the right direction for these adapters?
Thanks
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I have same trouble last week. I bought a "usb to hdmi adapter" from Amazon as a cheap price last month. But it can't work. So last week , i got a new hdmi adapter from Hdgenius .Finally it is OK and can work normally. So maybe you can learn from me and get another new hdmi adapter to have a test.
If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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anyone?
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According to some of wikipedia entries it should be possible to use mhl and usb otg at the same time with a 11-pin mhl-hdmi adapter.
Wikipedia said:
11-pin MHL-USB Connector
The Samsung Galaxy S III uses a connector that is similar to the original 5-pin MHL-USB connector, but it uses 11-pins in order to achieve a few functional improvements over the 5-pin design.
It supports the use of USB and MHL simultaneously (note that the new Samsung 11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter also has a USB-OTG port).
Samsung’s Galaxy S III can power the MHL-HDMI adapter. Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III's 11-pin connector is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
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Here you go.
So, it should work. But I couldnt make it work at the moment
I also got one of these 11-pin connectors and like it seems only the S3 has these adapters, so why the **** doesnt it work?? :/
I already asked sammy on facebook, just wondering what they will answer^^
Hopefully we will have some pos. results, dude.
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If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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How would that work since the micro USB connection on the mhl cable is for power / charger?
In those YouTube videos is it possible that they have the mhl cable connected to the TV and power source, and the keyboard and mouse connected wirelessly via Bluetooth?
Confused because you said USB Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. From what I know they aren't USB.
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Samsung should eventually release a dock to use both so unless someone figures it out first you'll just have to wait, because if it just took an 11 pin USB cable someone would have got it working already and we'd know about it, so I reckon it might have some extra circuitry to make it recognised by the phone.
Guys, as I already posted, the connector has 11 pins, so it should be possible to use OTG and MHL features at the same time. thats the only reason sammy brought out this connector and also cause of incompability with the 5-pin connector.
So they should bring the f*ck out somethin for the phone that activates this feature.
And a big problem I have with my mhl-connector is that I cant configure the output
on my 2 TVs at home I get 1080i, (both only 1080i capable), but the picture is kinda oversized so I cant see 100% percent of the picture, only 90% or smt like this.
But the funny part is, that I get on my 1680x1050p PC monitor only 576p screen, what actually sucks So it would be awesome if I could choose the resolution I want to have. But I guess its a thing of the connector (maybe it choose the resolutions iself).
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so the one in the videos using keyboard and mouse are bluetooth thru phone?
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I am SO HARD waiting for THAT "DOCK" hopefully will came out any day soon.
They should do iut fast. I'm waiting so hard for everything get connected with my Phone. It will be awsome if I don't need my Pc anymore.
To use the MHL cable you must have power connected to the adapter.
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If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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That's damn funny because I have wanted to know whether that would work as well, lol.
Did seriously consider trying but as I was on holiday if they broke, I wouldn't be able to get replacement so didn't try it.
In theory I would think it could work, but only if you could somehow wire in power to the hdmi adapter as it appears to need that to run the hdmi aswell as provide power to the phone, at least enough that once the usb adapter tries to demand power to run it isn't enough for the phone to output.
As to whether this is just a a stupid guess and assumption of how the devices and being a noob, I don't know.
If you can get a micro female to male adapter with a usb splitter for power then technically I can't see why it wouldn't work if the limitations are physical as oppose to software based (whole other issue I have no clue about).
EDIT: Wow, when I started that post no one had replied, err, seems a little redundant now, lol. My bad. Also, this 5 minute wait to point this out, have seemed really long...
guess we'll have to wait for that dock.
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