So, I just played with a friend's SGS 2 and when i looked into his App Manager, it would say he had 500-600 MB of free ram. Now, no matter how much I wipe or how many processes I kill, I cannot go over 450MB from the "1 GB" we are supposed to have.
I thought It was android reserving some RAM for himself but with this comparison it doesn't make sense anymore. Any recommendation on this? Might be because we have webtop running on background and SGS doesn't?
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So, I just played with a friend's SGS 2 and when i looked into his App Manager, it would say he had 500-600 MB of free ram. Now, no matter how much I wipe or how many processes I kill, I cannot go over 450MB from the "1 GB" we are supposed to have.
I thought It was android reserving some RAM for himself but with this comparison it doesn't make sense anymore. Any recommendation on this? Might be because we have webtop running on background and SGS doesn't?
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I usually have between 500 - 600 mb of RAM available... all depends on how many apps & process you have running.
Webtop does not run unless it is being used. As far as the difference in usage, I think Motoblur just uses more resources. I use Bloat Freezer and i can get up to 600MB free like when I reboot but then processes start up and it goes to about 500MB. Then I'll use it for awhile and it will get down to 200 to 300MB but never any less than 200
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So, I just played with a friend's SGS 2 and when i looked into his App Manager, it would say he had 500-600 MB of free ram. Now, no matter how much I wipe or how many processes I kill, I cannot go over 450MB from the "1 GB" we are supposed to have.
I thought It was android reserving some RAM for himself but with this comparison it doesn't make sense anymore. Any recommendation on this? Might be because we have webtop running on background and SGS doesn't?
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I don't have that many applications installed. And even so, the installed applications shouldn't be taking up RAM unless i run them, right?
I just did a restart and checked the RAM and it was just at 471 MB. I might mention that I'm using Go Launcher and the stock launcher is running also, because if I freeze it with Root Uninstaller, the calendar widget won't work.
Any guide on how to optimize RAM usage or what bloat should i freeze/uninstall?
using CM7, have around 400MB free out of 820 or so at any given point in time.
879mb of ram doesn't = 1gig. I would like to have that extra 120mb in free ram. instead of 600, 720 free. When I go into "About Phone" it used to say the current amount out of 879 but now it seems I've lost 100mb of ram. I've wiped/flashed/rebooted countless times to no avail. Even used Aura deblurred and CM7 with almost the same results.
On my phone it shows 471/816. Yes, would have loved to have that extra 208 MB of ram... But still Swiftks, could we have some info on your mods/apps? 600 MB of free ram is a LOT compared to what we have.
I have used ROMs that showed 575-620mb free but usually after rebooting. I'd say most ROMs will run from 400-500 free. But if you could, look on your phone under running apps and add up your used and free ram and post back.
I've heard that Go Launcher is a resource hog. Might want to try it without that just to see if there is any difference.
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I don't have that many applications installed. And even so, the installed applications shouldn't be taking up RAM unless i run them, right?
I just did a restart and checked the RAM and it was just at 471 MB. I might mention that I'm using Go Launcher and the stock launcher is running also, because if I freeze it with Root Uninstaller, the calendar widget won't work.
Any guide on how to optimize RAM usage or what bloat should i freeze/uninstall?
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There's a huge misconception about how much RAM should be free at any given time. Honestly, the less RAM being used is actually better. That means processes are cued up for multitasking and it uses less resources to start them back up when used. Also, if you have any RAM left then that means you don't need any more because the phone will only use what it needs so if you have like 100MB of Ram available then that means you don't need it, but if you were at like 10 to 20MB free then I'd worry. But most people say they have like 200 available so there really is no reason to worry/complain. Plus, it's better for the battery to have the processes stored in RAM because it takes more energy to start an app back up then to keep it idle.
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I have used ROMs that showed 575-620mb free but usually after rebooting. I'd say most ROMs will run from 400-500 free. But if you could, look on your phone under running apps and add up your used and free ram and post back.
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Here is a good article that explains much better how android works in regards to processes:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
The "Addendum" at the end lays it out pretty bluntly
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There's a huge misconception about how much RAM should be free at any given time. Honestly, the less RAM being used is actually better. That means processes are cued up for multitasking and it uses less resources to start them back up when used. Also, if you have any RAM left then that means you don't need any more because the phone will only use what it needs so if you have like 100MB of Ram available then that means you don't need it, but if you were at like 10 to 20MB free then I'd worry. But most people say they have like 200 available so there really is no reason to worry/complain. Plus, it's better for the battery to have the processes stored in RAM because it takes more energy to start a app back up then to keep it idle.
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If I add up the mb's of apps running right now it's less than 90mb but its showing 190mb is being used. That is including the media/motorola/stock junk on a fresh install of ninja. I haven't even opened market or added my google account yet.
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There's a huge misconception about how much RAM should be free at any given time. Honestly, the less RAM being used is actually better. That means processes are cued up for multitasking and it uses less resources to start them back up when used. Also, if you have any RAM left then that means you don't need any more because the phone will only use what it needs so if you have like 100MB of Ram available then that means you don't need it, but if you were at like 10 to 20MB free then I'd worry. But most people say they have like 200 available so there really is no reason to worry/complain. Plus, it's better for the battery to have the processes stored in RAM because it takes more energy to start an app back up then to keep it idle.
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I understand your point, but it makes me wonder... Devices like SGS 1 for example, only have 512 MB ram. Based on how the Atrix and Galaxy S2 are said to have 1GB but in reality it only has 800ish MB, the SGS 1 will also have 400+.
Now, my atrix goes from boot to a usable state leaving me ONLY 471 MB of free ram, taking up 380+ (rounding numbers of course). Since the SGS 1 also runs on Android 2.3, the same thing should happen right? taking up 380MB out of it's 400+ MB of ram, leaving only 50 (rounding again) MB of RAM? Highly unlikely, if that was the case, only opening up the browser would take up those 50 "free" RAM.
I don't have a SGS with me to corroborate this theory but I'd bet the SGS starts up to a usuable state with 100-150 of free ram, using up only 250-300 MB of ram, why can't we pull that off from our devices?
It's not that I'm not against using the RAM on our devices, but only comparing how much RAM my device is using I can tell whether it's running efficiently or it has a resource Hog somewhere.
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If I add up the mb's of apps running right now it's less than 90mb but its showing 190mb is being used. That is including the media/motorola/stock junk on a fresh install of ninja. I haven't even opened market or added my google account yet.
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your phone is like a fat kid with a birthday cake. he's always going to take a few extra slices for himself and not share with anyone.
(system taking RAM and not sharing with any other processes)
I think it has to do with Motoblur using up more resources. It is so integrated into accounts and everything that it can't help but take up a bunch of RAM which is why they probably went with 1GB of RAM to begin with, they probably couldn't pull it off with just 512
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I understand your point, but it makes me wonder... Devices like SGS 1 for example, only have 512 MB ram. Based on how the Atrix and Galaxy S2 are said to have 1GB but in reality it only has 800ish MB, the SGS 1 will also have 400+.
Now, my atrix goes from boot to a usable state leaving me ONLY 471 MB of free ram, taking up 380+ (rounding numbers of course). Since the SGS 1 also runs on Android 2.3, the same thing should happen right? taking up 380MB out of it's 400+ MB of ram, leaving only 50 (rounding again) MB of RAM? Highly unlikely, if that was the case, only opening up the browser would take up those 50 "free" RAM.
I don't have a SGS with me to corroborate this theory but I'd bet the SGS starts up to a usuable state with 100-150 of free ram, using up only 250-300 MB of ram, why can't we pull that off from our devices?
It's not that I'm not against using the RAM on our devices, but only comparing how much RAM my device is using I can tell whether it's running efficiently or it has a resource Hog somewhere.
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So deblur is the way?
I use Bloat Freezer and the paid version of TiBu freezes apps too. I think there is a list of "safe" Blur apps to freeze somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.
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So deblur is the way?
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I found this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182663&highlight=apps+safe+to+freeze+list
But I'm sure there is an even more comprehensive list somewhere...
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I use Bloat Freezer and the paid version of TiBu freezes apps too. I think there is a list of "safe" Blur apps to freeze somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.
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great, thanks. Why do you use two freezers?
I don't, I just use Bloat Freezer. I was just pointing out that TiBu does it as well if you happened to have the paid version (which I don't).
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great, thanks. Why do you use two freezers?
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Hello, as we know, Galaxy S1 was advertised with 512MB ram, but in real there was only ~340MB of usable RAM! So i want to ask, how much ram is usable for applications and how much is free after fresh boot? Can someone check this? You can see this informations in task manager.
I think its about 800-850 RAM.
The original SGS had 512mb of ram as advertised. For some reason people assume that their phone behaves different than their computer. The operating system and everything like that needs to use the ram as well.
AS stated though I understand the SGS2 to have approximately 850MB of ram free after running the OS etc.
If I continually hit advanced task killer it will give me about 445MB free. In the standard task manager it says /833MB.
I don't really think this is all too relevant. You will never have anywhere near the maximum amount available just as you won't in a modern PC either and with phone OS's getting more power hungry and complex this is unlikely to change.
If the amount of ram bothers you check the video of the guy doing heavy multitasking on the phone and that will clear your mind.
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If I continually hit advanced task killer it will give me about 445MB free. In the standard task manager it says /833MB.
I don't really think this is all too relevant. You will never have anywhere near the maximum amount available just as you won't in a modern PC either and with phone OS's getting more power hungry and complex this is unlikely to change.
If the amount of ram bothers you check the video of the guy doing heavy multitasking on the phone and that will clear your mind.
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Thank you for usefull information. I'm just interested in real numbers, because HTC phones have all advertised ram available to system, instead of samsung, which is cheating about this. Yes the OS is using ram... but from 833MB, not from 1gig. How can system use ram which is not visible to system? Android is linux, you can easily see how much ram is available and usable for system... it's 833 not 1gig. I believe that there is 1GB ram chip, but some memory is dedicated to other components. However 833 MB is really enough for mobile phone.
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The original SGS had 512mb of ram as advertised.
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It did have 512MB of ram in hardware, but a pretty big part of the 512mb was actually dedicated video memory for 3d and movies. The Galaxy Tab 7" which was advertised with 512MB actually had ~600MB of ram in hardware, with extra ram outside the 512MB being for the dedicated video.
With the SGS2 it seems to be as the original SGS with dedicated video ram being taken out of the 1GB. It's easy enough to check by looking at the kernel config files. (And you can even tweak the numbers a bit to get a bit more free ram, as was done in the SGS)
Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Thank you for usefull information. I'm just interested in real numbers, because HTC phones have all advertised ram available to system, instead of samsung, which is cheating about this. Yes the OS is using ram... but from 833MB, not from 1gig. How can system use ram which is not visible to system? Android is linux, you can easily see how much ram is available and usable for system... it's 833 not 1gig. I believe that there is 1GB ram chip, but some memory is dedicated to other components. However 833 MB is really enough for mobile phone.
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Htc does/did this as well. My Legend is advertised with 384mb ram, but only 290 is available to the system.
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Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Your philosophy is absolutely correct. In Windows that might be a good thing, because it starts buffering to the HD when you run out. But Android will just close some background processes automatically to clear ram as needed.
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Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Unfortunately people these days only know about ram management from that poor excuse of an OS called Windows.... excluding 7.
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Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Agreed, as long as there is a big line between FREE RAM and TOTAL RAM. More total RAM is always a very very good thing regardless of how good the ram management is.
This thread is about total RAM available to Linux/Android, so it's good imho.
Hey guys, first I want to say I'm new to android so forgive me I got my rezound today and am a bit concerned with the memory usage. I'm showing that the phone has 817 megs of memory (thought this was supposed to be 1 gig?) and i'm showing the usage at 683 and really don't have anything installed yet.
Is this normal? If it's not, how should I proceed to resolve this.
Thanks!
In android, memory is used differently. Unused ram in android is wasted ram. I know this is counter-intuitive but it is true. Having no free ram won't impact the performance because android intelligently keeps things in ram so that they can be opened for faster access. If ram is needed by an application, things are automatically closed to free up ram.
It's normal, I have 704MB in use and 141MB free. Once we have perm-root and can debloat, I expect some more memory to free up.
You can also launch "Task Manager" and see what processes are running.
Keep in mind, Sense uses a LOT of RAM to operate.
Once the phone is debloated, a ROM is flashed that gets rid of most, if not all, of Sense, you can expect anywhere from 300-500 megs of RAM free.
I use fast reboot from the market and I consistantly have 390-415 mbs free.
I'm not asking in terms of memory usage, but do we really only have 817 megs of ram? Might as well call it 756 instead of 1024. Or is there ram being used by the system that doesn't show up there? Again, I know how android caches apps, I just want to see if the actual total ram is correct?
I have been so busy catching up with all the amazing stuff Da_G has been pumping out (thanks!) that I didn't even take a look at this until now. I am showing that we only have 733MB of avaliable RAM. That is a far cry from 1024MB.
I am seeing 733MB w/ both Android System Info and with the built-in Task Manager.
Does anyone know if we indeed have 1024MB of RAM and... if it is just assigned else where?
Yes we have 1GB every phone has RAM missing because the system is holding it.
I remember one time the OS didn't support that much not sure if that's the case now but the phone has 1GB to my knowledge and.what I've read
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Just like memory... Do we really have 16gb? Its never what they say... All marketing!
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I have also read that is has 1GB everywhere, but missing 291MB seems like an awful lot.
I beleive my Atrix showed 897MB. I just seems like an awful lot 'mssing' w/ the Note.
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Just like memory... Do we really have 16gb? Its never what they say... All marketing!
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I am with you on that! Makes me
I noticed the same, it's showing short but using the same app(system tuner pro) on my G2 it showed the correct 512mb.
It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
Graphics memory
As with any computer your phone has a gpu which needs graphics memory and because the gpu is integrated (SOC) it takes its memory off the top. This can be seen with any computer you have with integrated graphics it will section off some memory for your gpu.
As for the flash memory space many issues can take it down such as the file system, operating system, it just depends but trust me before the phone was turned on and android installed it had 16gb of memory and 1gb of ram
I'm about 100% CPU and GPU can't share ram as they do completely different tasks. They could have just added the cram and the ram to get 1GB though... But otherwise, the missing ram is from system tasks and the OS.
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It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
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Do we have a reference or any proof of this?
And to the post directly above this, any computer that does not have a dedicated graphics card uses shared system memory, just like our phones. 733MB is just quite a bit away from 1024MB.
they can and do use the same memory because they are the same soc aka system on chip. all this is integrated.
So if you built a PC yourself and loaded it with 2gig RAM and booted into windows it would have 2 gig FREE memory?
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So if you built a PC yourself and loaded it with 2gig RAM and booted into windows it would have 2 gig FREE memory?
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I am not talking about FREE. I am talking about the system as a whole. Do we really have 1GB of RAM? Where it is being used I am not so concerned about at this point, but it may help us figure out if we do indeed have 1GB (Where is the remaing 291MB assigned).
The missing 291 is being used by android..to load the launcher Widgets and everything else in the background.
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The missing 291 is being used by android..to load the launcher Widgets and everything else in the background.
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i have international version of note.its same way on this one.the missing ram is held by system tasks.as for 16gb storage memory.if you wipe all area on usb storage .u will have 16gb but not a working phone.another thing about free ram.dont use task manager to stop apps.all it does is make the phone lag.leave everything running.
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It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
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You have 300-500 MB FREE ram? My note is bone stock and I'm running at 400/700 MB RAM (meaning 300 MB free). This is also when I "Clear memory" too. Something wrong with my apps?
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You have 300-500 MB FREE ram? My note is bone stock and I'm running at 400/700 MB RAM (meaning 300 MB free). This is also when I "Clear memory" too. Something wrong with my apps?
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I have 700 free. With just 2 home screens 2 Widgets and a few apps and live wallpaper.
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Two dozen open apps on mine right now, and it shows 283 MB used, 302 MB free.
On my AT&T gs2 I consistantly show 830 to 850 MB free. On my note I only see a lil over 700. How can this have less ram than my gs2? I have over 80 app on my gs2 and less than half that on my note!!!
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Probably xtra things (like snote )loaded on note that wouldn't be on your s2
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I'm betting some of you have a Nexus 7, did you notice that the free ram is about 950MB out of the the Gig that it comes with?
Why do our phone only have like 720MB available if the tablet has so much more?
Both the tablet and our phones have 1 gig, so what gives?
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I'm betting some of you have a Nexus 7, did you notice that the free ram is about 950MB out of the the Gig that it comes with?
Why do our phone only have like 720MB available if the tablet has so much more?
Both the tablet and our phones have 1 gig, so what gives?
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Of that one gig of ram there is firm ware and the OS and some preloaded apps on the Nexus 7 on your phone it is about the same but with a skinned UI and then the carriers bloatware on top of that. It all takes up ram, so no bloatware or skinned UI gives you more ram on your Nexus 7.:good:
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Of that one gig of ram there is firm ware and the OS and some preloaded apps on the Nexus 7 on your phone it is about the same but with a skinned UI and then the carriers bloatware on top of that. It all takes up ram, so no bloatware or skinned UI gives you more ram on your Nexus 7.:good:
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If i'm running a custom rom on my phone with straight AOSP why does the available ram on my phone stay at 720mb like stock?
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If i'm running a custom rom on my phone with straight AOSP why does the available ram on my phone stay at 720mb like stock?
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I think it's reserved for graphics or something. Guessing.
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Its full ram is used to play apps and games on your Nexus 7.
Also...the nexus tablet doesn't have a cell antenna...So no mobile data to keep track of, those services are running on your phone all the time
A friend of mine bought At&t Galaxy S3 and it suppose to have 2gb Ram but when i check the phone it show 1.6GB ram and only 1.03gb available. so i guess it is used by system or graphic or something. Just like the computers that doesn't have dedicated graphic card so if your computer has 4gb ram you would have 3gb ram available the rest is reserved for graphic. i am just assuming that the same this is happening to our phone. if i remember correctly when i had CM9 and when i went to setting, about phone it showed only 768mb instead of 1gb.
I have all 16 on my computer.
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I think it's reserved for graphics or something. Guessing.
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Yeah, i'm sure your right, its reserved for video and whatnot, but why doesn't the Nexus 7 need that video ram used up? It's got a pretty fast video chip too...
My only gripe with the Note is the 1GB of ram. You only have about 350mb available and as we all know, Android caches stuff you run, but most of the time your not holding many apps in that free 350MB so its always restarting apps anyways. This phone (any ICS phone really) needs 2gb of ram.
I've used the S3 and yeah, its super snappy because so much more stays in all that extra active ram... Samsung saw the light and added extra ram, I hope this is a new trend... How do we get a 2gb chip soldered in place of the 1gb chip
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Yeah, i'm sure your right, its reserved for video and whatnot, but why doesn't the Nexus 7 need that video ram used up? It's got a pretty fast video chip too...
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Tegra 3 has its own dedicated ram.
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Tegra 3 has its own dedicated ram.
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That's a pretty good trick then. That alone would make me be sure my next phone was a Tegra 3. Not for the speed, but you really need more ram...
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That's a pretty good trick then. That alone would make me be sure my next phone was a Tegra 3. Not for the speed, but you really need more ram...
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You could always get the S3 or some other phone with 2GB ram.
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You could always get the S3 or some other phone with 2GB ram.
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I'm not giving up my Galaxy Note's huge screen Hoping the Note 2 gets 2gb of ram
Our phones are deliberately under-clocked to 716, some may say it's for the battery life but I think it's because the higher clock speeds lead to shorter phone life. Using custom kernels, you can clock back up or even overclock. The payment is made mostly in battery life, but if your ROM has a memory leak of even the smallest size, overclocking will open the dam and the phone will suffer for it. Also, the phone will run at a higher temperature, which for sure will end its life much faster than leaving it at 716. This is the way I feel about overclocking: If you get the performance you want, leave it alone.
Wtf??
Clock speeds have not a single thing to do with ram whatsoever
Overclock is for the cpu
Aside from the OCD of the available RAM number, how has this negatively impacted your user experience? Are applications running slowly or crashing?
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Aside from the OCD of the available RAM number, how has this negatively impacted your user experience? Are applications running slowly or crashing?
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Apps are continuously closing and having to be relaunched (slower). Back in the older days of android where apps were 20-30mb it wasn't a huge deal, but some of these new games/apps take up well over 100mb of ram. everything else in the background is closed as it needs to make room..
Would be nice to have more active app space for a much smoother "multitasking" experience.
Sounds like we need a high speed dev to create some software to access the SD card and use it as ram....
Is that even possible ????...Hmmmmmm
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Apps are continuously closing and having to be relaunched (slower). Back in the older days of android where apps were 20-30mb it wasn't a huge deal, but some of these new games/apps take up well over 100mb of ram. everything else in the background is closed as it needs to make room..
Would be nice to have more active app space for a much smoother "multitasking" experience.
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Are you running more than one game that takes 100+ MB of RAM at a time? Do you jump from one game to another in the middle of action?
Sounds like you want to just want to be able to adjust your LMK settings. I don't believe there is kernel that lets you do that yet, but I'm sure there will be eventually.
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Sounds like we need a high speed dev to create some software to access the SD card and use it as ram....
Is that even possible ????...Hmmmmmm
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not quite.. SDs speed of 20-30MB/s is a far cry from the 1GB of LPDDR2 "333Mhz?"in our note with a transfer rate of 5,333MB/s
Hi, i just wonder why this phone use ram so much high? (mine: usually at 1,7GB). At first time i use this phone it was used about 1.1GB of ram.
I'm trying to compare this phone usage with my previous tablet, samsung galaxy note 10.1 and it just consume about 700MB of 2GB ram it have and at first time i use it consume about only 500MB ram.
For your information, i use almost same app running in my booth device. But..
Why it come so much different? Z2 for sure have 3GB ram (bigger than other) but i think the system at least consume much more ram too than others. Are I'am right? Can u tell me what do you think? And tell us about your idle ram usage too if u can..
denny9unawan said:
Hi, i just wonder why this phone use ram so much high? (mine: usually at 1,7GB). At first time i use this phone it was used about 1.1GB of ram.
I'm trying to compare this phone usage with my previous tablet, samsung galaxy note 10.1 and it just consume about 700MB of 2GB ram it have and at first time i use it consume about only 500MB ram.
For your information, i use almost same app running in my booth device. But..
Why it come so much different? Z2 for sure have 3GB ram (bigger than other) but i think the system at least consume much more ram too than others. Are I'am right? Can u tell me what do you think? And tell us about your idle ram usage too if u can..
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I think nothing of it
Linux is healthy to use ram unlike other OSs when ever you open an app your phone will free ram if needed, its not to hard seeing as how its managed
Your actual free ram is always 15mb but freeable is usualy always %90 of your total ram, ignore how much ram is avaliable
If you want to know more, look up linux ram management
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Looking at RAM usage is entirely pointless.
Apps allocated RAM as they like but the operating system makes all kinds of predictions ahead of time to preallocate blocks of RAM to increase speed, eg when an app requests to allocate some memory the OS gets to instantly go "here you go; hehe sucker I already prepared that earlier".
The OS will more or less allocate as much RAM as you throw at it up to realistic limits. Eg once a tiny app has 1gb of ram the OS will take the educated guess that will be more than enough for it and not allocate any more.
If another app opens up and the OS is running low on memory it will rejig how much it has allocated to apps that never actually requested that much memory.
This happens on any modern OS and is why you should never really care how much RAM things are using.
In Windows under process manager if you looked you would find there is about 10 different ways to look at the RAM usage per app. Unless you really know what the numbers are saying they will all means basically zero in the real world.
Woa.. I never know it before.. Thanks for the info..
Mine 1.5gb used
More then enough
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mine is usually about 1.5 to 1.9GB
keep in mind it caches apps too incase you reuse them, at the top right of the usage screen hit the menu to see the cached apps.
Mine is usually 1.5 to 1.7GB, even I don't run any app...
BTW, I install the app Clean Master ( like CC clean on Windows). And I always do clean Junk file and Boost ram once a day.
Is it good to use this app everyday?
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Mine is usually 1.5 to 1.7GB, even I don't run any app...
BTW, I install the app Clean Master ( like CC clean on Windows). And I always do clean Junk file and Boost ram once a day.
Is it good to use this app everyday?
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If it's another generic 'ram booster', it's next to useless, but it won't be dangerous to use unless the app is programmed poorly. As others have pointed out, if there's no problem with the system (e.g. memory leaks), the RAM it allocates is used for caching apps so they may load quicker. Simply put, this behaviour is intended.
Cleaning junk files will probably have next to no effect on perceived performance as well untill you've hoarded enough junk files that your internal memory is almost full. But I see where you're coming from; it's very satisfying to see memory freed.
And while I am at it, I'd like to recommend SD Maid for this purpose. It's one of the few apps that actually do something useful. You can delete orphaned folders by apps that are no longer installed, delete junk and duplicate files, bulk clean app caches as well as optimise internal app databases.