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I recently flashed on cm7 on my aria. it is great but my data usage began shooting up. i realized it was due to the fact that everytime i lock my phone, it disables my wifi (i saw this because everytime i unlock im on 3g for a 1-2 seconds then i get on wifi so that means that the whole time my phone is locked it uses 3g data ) is there anyway i can prevent this from occurring??
Thanks,
Okachowwa
Menu -> settings -> wireless & networks -> wi-fi settings -> menu -> advanced -> wi-fi sleep policy -> never
I think that's it.
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okachowwa said:
I recently flashed on cm7 on my aria. it is great but my data usage began shooting up. i realized it was due to the fact that everytime i lock my phone, it disables my wifi (i saw this because everytime i unlock im on 3g for a 1-2 seconds then i get on wifi so that means that the whole time my phone is locked it uses 3g data ) is there anyway i can prevent this from occurring??
Thanks,
Okachowwa
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Have you checked the Wifi Settings to see which sleep option is selected? There is an 'Never' option which tells wifi to stay on even when the phone sleeps.
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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klbmth said:
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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yup...that's why you just turn your wifi off with the notification widget (very simple and painless might I add) if you know you're leaving the house...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network? all it's going to do is drain your battery. i left my wifi enabled one day when i sent to work and within half the day i had ~12% battery life...definitely not good practice to leave it enabled that's my 2 cents, do as you wish though. to each his own.
klbmth said:
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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Yup, I have the same issue with CM7 nightlies. This worked flawlessly in CM6 and stock2.1. So far there isn't a viable solution.
from the CM6.1.1 thread...
Q. How do I keep my wifi from going to sleep every time the screen shuts off?
A. There is a hidden feature that disables wifi sleep.
menu > Settings > Wireless & networks > wifi settings > menu (again) > advanced > Wi-Fi Sleep policy > Never > menu > Save
However: although you can keep the wifi service from sleeping, the wifi driver will still sleep on it's own after detecting no bus activity for a period of time.
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from the CM6.1.1 thread...
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I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
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Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
I've had the same behavior on FR008 and the stock ATT 2.1 load as well. When Wifi is in that on but not really connected state some apps can wake it up...the default browser usually will, but Listen would not. I just gave up and only turn on wifi when I need it.
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I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
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Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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Well, just because people don't work exactly like you work, does not mean they are doing it wrong. If something is broken I'm going to call it out. I might be incorrect, but let's be clear: you aren't questioning that wifi in CM7 isn't working the way it did in CM6, you are questioning my behavior -- which is a weak argument.
I guess you don't understand the issue, so I'll spell it out:
Wifi worked flawlessly and automatically for me in stock 2.1 AND CM6. This automatic behavior does not work in CM7. Manually toggling something that simply "just worked" before is a regression, not a feature. Hence the reason I point it out -- the devs can't fix something unless they know it's broken, and I seriously doubt the devs are able to test all/every permutation. I have nothing but respect for the work they do, thus my very respectful tones in my earlier posts. I've had no indication that the devs are unwilling to get feedback about their work.
You asked a question though, and here is the answer:
I leave Wifi on all the time because I'm a consultant -- I work in many different locations throughout the week, travelling the country. I have dozens of wifi networks saved on my phone, and it is useful for me to have my phone automatically jump on the correct, nearest network. I'd rather use free wifi instead of paying AT&T for data charges. It is not always possible for me to remember I'm in a location with a known wifi network, or to remember to manually toggle wifi settings: it is useful for me to have this happen in the background. Sometimes I'm on a call, sometimes I'm heading into a meeting and I'd rather not mess with my phone. I want wifi to be on all time, scanning for the correct network, and jumping on it when it's in range.
Outrageous, right?! Not actually -- this is the existing behavior in CM6 and stock 2.1. From my standpoint, wifi just worked -- I didn't have to think about it, didn't have to manually toggle something to prevent AT&T data charges.
This is desired behavior for me, and I'm happy with rolling back to CM6 to get it. I understand that _you_ don't need this behavior, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means the world is bigger than you realized.
And yes: wifi in CM7 (beta) is currently broken. Read the threads. Many people are having problems with it.
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yup...that's why you just turn your wifi off with the notification widget (very simple and painless might I add) if you know you're leaving the house...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network? all it's going to do is drain your battery. i left my wifi enabled one day when i sent to work and within half the day i had ~12% battery life...definitely not good practice to leave it enabled that's my 2 cents, do as you wish though. to each his own.
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That's a good tip, I feel kind of dumb for not thinking about it lol and I also agree that it is good practice to do so. I just wanted to point it out in case a dev was going through this thread which is relevant to the topic.
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Well, just because people don't work exactly like you work, does not mean they are doing it wrong. If something is broken I'm going to call it out. I might be incorrect, but let's be clear: you aren't questioning that wifi in CM7 isn't working the way it did in CM6, you are questioning my behavior -- which is a weak argument.
I guess you don't understand the issue, so I'll spell it out:
Wifi worked flawlessly and automatically for me in stock 2.1 AND CM6. This automatic behavior does not work in CM7. Manually toggling something that simply "just worked" before is a regression, not a feature. Hence the reason I point it out -- the devs can't fix something unless they know it's broken, and I seriously doubt the devs are able to test all/every permutation. I have nothing but respect for the work they do, thus my very respectful tones in my earlier posts. I've had no indication that the devs are unwilling to get feedback about their work.
You asked a question though, and here is the answer:
I leave Wifi on all the time because I'm a consultant -- I work in many different locations throughout the week, travelling the country. I have dozens of wifi networks saved on my phone, and it is useful for me to have my phone automatically jump on the correct, nearest network. I'd rather use free wifi instead of paying AT&T for data charges. It is not always possible for me to remember I'm in a location with a known wifi network, or to remember to manually toggle wifi settings: it is useful for me to have this happen in the background. Sometimes I'm on a call, sometimes I'm heading into a meeting and I'd rather not mess with my phone. I want wifi to be on all time, scanning for the correct network, and jumping on it when it's in range.
Outrageous, right?! Not actually -- this is the existing behavior in CM6 and stock 2.1. From my standpoint, wifi just worked -- I didn't have to think about it, didn't have to manually toggle something to prevent AT&T data charges.
This is desired behavior for me, and I'm happy with rolling back to CM6 to get it. I understand that _you_ don't need this behavior, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means the world is bigger than you realized.
And yes: wifi in CM7 (beta) is currently broken. Read the threads. Many people are having problems with it.
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fyi CM6 & 2.1 != CM7. Your argument is null & void.
Also, being a "consultant" and the very important man you are, flashing a rom that's not even in beta stages yet probably isn't the best idea you've ever had.
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Also, being a "consultant" and the very important man you are, flashing a rom that's not even in beta stages yet probably isn't the best idea you've ever had.
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Why do you remind us that the rom is in a beta stage? "Beta" implies it is not fully functional, but your argument all along has been that it works perfectly....
Look, it's clear you haven't actually understood any of my posts. I'm highlighting error messages or erratic behavior I see in logcat running CM7. I've posted what I've seen so the devs can take action, or not, as they choose. Since you aren't in that audience I don't understand what your beef is.
Oh wait! Straw man arguments; personal attacks; logical fallacies: I've been dealing with either a highschool student or a troll - not sure which.
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fyi CM6 & 2.1 != CM7. Your argument is null & void.
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...although I have a strong suspicion.
kinggrowler said:
Why do you remind us that the rom is in a beta stage? "Beta" implies it is not fully functional, but your argument all along has been that it works perfectly....
Look, it's clear you haven't actually understood any of my posts. I'm highlighting error messages or erratic behavior I see in logcat running CM7. I've posted what I've seen so the devs can take action, or not, as they choose. Since you aren't in that audience I don't understand what your beef is.
Oh wait! Straw man arguments; personal attacks; logical fallacies: I've been dealing with either a highschool student or a troll - not sure which.
...although I have a strong suspicion.
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First of all:
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Just because something does not work they way you'd like it to doesn't mean you've discovered a bug.
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That being said. Beta does NOT necessarily imply that thing are not fully functioning, it simply implies that it hasn't been put into RC or stable. You can have a fully functioning beta program. HOWEVER, it may not be working properly. But creating a thread about an issue that's been brought up 20+ times now is pointless. I'm PRETTY sure the devs know about the issue, should it actually be an issue. Now that I just wasted another 15 seconds of my life, i'm going to casually /part from this thread and I'll end my post with this quote again, in case you didn't catch it the first time.
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Just because something does not work they way you'd like it to doesn't mean you've discovered a bug.
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This is for OP and very important man of the day, kinggrowler:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11171075&postcount=1054
and i'll even quote it directly for you:
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There are no broad wifi issues to resolve, and I do not plan to change the wifi driver one iota. I am using the one that works right for most people, and flawlessly for me.
If you are not having such luck, then you need to look at your access point if you have already wiped data.
Really, the constant carping about wifi is absolutely pointless.
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I believe the proper thing for me to say right now would be:
game. set. match.
Me too. I can't roam between networks, either. I have to disable and re-enable the wifi each time.
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...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network?
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1) Because Google Maps uses known wifi hotspots to help establish your location.
2) So that you don't have to keep toggling wifi on and off when moving between hotspots (or home and work, for example).
3) To use the network notification feature (aka "notify me when an open network is available").
HTH
Edit: seems to be fixed in RC3!
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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i have try everything and still same issues with wifi. and i change the radio ( baseband ). still i am thinking of uninstalling it bc i dont have wifi
Sorry to tell you but that was with the old wifi stuff (every nightly up to build 25), which I had no problem with. The RC/nightlies have new wifi data made by jznomoney, which I have on and off problems with. Its working for most people but there are a handful who are having problems. I flashed ladios' kernel and my wifi is doing a lot better with the new RC/nightlies.
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I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
Code:
Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
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I've noticed something similar with CM7 on my Aria. When I leave the house and come back it doesn't always connect automatically and it will enter into this cycle of scanning, connecting, disconnected.
I had to reboot the phone to get it to stop the cycle and stay connected. I don't use a lot of data anyway but I still prefer to use wifi when available. Interestingly just now it wouldn't even see any of my neighbor's wifi networks at all which is odd.
I have the HTC Aria with CM 6.1.1 installed on it.
Since the time I installed CM 6, I haven't been able to connect to the school network. I could do so in Liberated Aria (FRxx) and the stock 2.1 ATT Rom but not in CM6.
The thing is, my school has a login page that allows a student to login using his id and password and whenever someone tries to navigate to a page (google for example), the server would redirect to this login page first. Only after a user logs in, he can proceed to surf the web.
It works perfectly fien on my laptop and used to work in the Sense ROMs but for some reason, it doesn't work in CM6. 3G data works perfectly though.
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find a similar question. Someone asked this question in the Cyanogen Mod forum too but it was left unanswered.
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I have the HTC Aria with CM 6.1.1 installed on it.
Since the time I installed CM 6, I haven't been able to connect to the school network. I could do so in Liberated Aria (FRxx) and the stock 2.1 ATT Rom but not in CM6.
The thing is, my school has a login page that allows a student to login using his id and password and whenever someone tries to navigate to a page (google for example), the server would redirect to this login page first. Only after a user logs in, he can proceed to surf the web.
It works perfectly fien on my laptop and used to work in the Sense ROMs but for some reason, it doesn't work in CM6. 3G data works perfectly though.
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find a similar question. Someone asked this question in the Cyanogen Mod forum too but it was left unanswered.
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If I'm remembering correctly it could be our wifi driver may not be compatible with their router or something along g those lines. Somebody can correct me on that though. Also, at the public library where I live every once in a while I wont be able to use the wifi. It will say connected but no internet. But if I go back the next day it works fine (reset their routers maybe?)
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If I'm remembering correctly it could be our wifi driver may not be compatible with their router or something along g those lines. Somebody can correct me on that though. Also, at the public library where I live every once in a while I wont be able to use the wifi. It will say connected but no internet. But if I go back the next day it works fine (reset their routers maybe?)
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Thank you for that!
Is there a workaround for this? I hate to use the 3G data connection (which is paid, thank you ATT ) instead of the free WiFi that I could use instead. Also, at the place where I work on campus, I get no 3G. All I get there is EDGE.
I had this problem happen to me and couldn't find a solution for it. The only solution I found was to go to Liberated (I use the HK kernel) instead of CM6.
i would try using CM7 instead of CM6.
the CM7 nightlies were slow. even CM6 is pretty slow unless the aria is overclocked and doing this ruins the battery life. But i still prefer to use cm6 (for now atleast). Is there a way this issue can be rectified in cm6?
Anyone?? Hello!! People say that the android development community is very active but I've always found it otherwise. People like Cyanogen and attn release great mods but not always help people out with their problems. Isn't that unfair?
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Anyone?? Hello!! People say that the android development community is very active but I've always found it otherwise. People like Cyanogen and attn release great mods but not always help people out with their problems. Isn't that unfair?
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I find this to be the complete opposite of what I have experienced. I just got my phone Feb. 23rd and have rooted it flashed 3 different rom's and a couple nightlys. Like stated before, just get on the irc chat and start asking, but I do guarantee if you go with this kind of attitude you won't get far Good luck and I hope your problems get resolved.
did you consider asking IT at your college or checking their website for information on wifi?
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ayankar said:
The thing is, my school has a login page that allows a student to login using his id and password and whenever someone tries to navigate to a page (google for example), the server would redirect to this login page first. Only after a user logs in, he can proceed to surf the web.
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I'm guessing that you used your browser after enabling WiFi and disabling data and entered your username and password mentioned above? Does this page even show up for you after this update?
immediately after you connect to the wifi, go to browser and try to open up a new page, that login should show up. (this is based on other networks where i have done the same thing)
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immediately after you connect to the wifi, go to browser and try to open up a new page, that login should show up. (this is based on other networks where i have done the same thing)
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Did this solve your issue?
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ARMarlowe said:
did you consider asking IT at your college or checking their website for information on wifi?
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i tried doing that, but they weren't of much help. I think I should speak to someone higher up the order.
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I'm guessing that you used your browser after enabling WiFi and disabling data and entered your username and password mentioned above? Does this page even show up for you after this update?
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No, that's the point. This page just doesn't show up even if I specifically type in the address.
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immediately after you connect to the wifi, go to browser and try to open up a new page, that login should show up. (this is based on other networks where i have done the same thing)
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thanks. Tried it but did not work.
I realized that since I started using the CM6.1.1 ROM, my phone's IP address doesn't show up at my home wireless router's logs. All I can see is my MAC id.
Could that be the problem?
You might want to give this new CM7 based ROM a try. It's based on CM7 nightly 21 and it fixes the known issues with hidden SSID's and reconnecting to "remembered" networks. I'm running it now and it's excellent.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996331
Edit: I expect that the changes in this ROM will be merged into the regular CM7 nightly builds in the very near future.
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cHarley04 said:
You might want to give this new CM7 based ROM a try. It's based on CM7 nightly 21 and it fixes the known issues with hidden SSID's and reconnecting to "remembered" networks. I'm running it now and it's excellent.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996331
Edit: I expect that the changes in this ROM will be merged into the regular CM7 nightly builds in the very near future.
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I dunno why it's been deleted, but in any case, the problems that ROM was designed to fix have been addressed a long time ago and current versions of CM7 shouldn't have those issues.
I'm working with CM7 no problem with hidden wireless networks, but it do seems that the phone get less reception on the wireless network. even if I'm close to routers I get only 2-3 bars on the wireless icon. Don't know why is that.
Hey guys first time poster long time reader. Before I begin I just wanted to thank you all for the help and support with the ins and outs of the android OS.
Now that that is out of the way, I had a question in regards to Veoh.com and some issues I am having with it. I have Kaos Froyo v39, and I use Dolphin browser mini. When I change my useragent to iPhone and I go on Veoh it works okay for a little bit, and then it either stops loading videos or gives me an error message saying 'this video cannot be played' is there a fix for this? Am I doing something wrong?
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Hey guys first time poster long time reader. Before I begin I just wanted to thank you all for the help and support with the ins and outs of the android OS.
Now that that is out of the way, I had a question in regards to Veoh.com and some issues I am having with it. I have Kaos Froyo v39, and I use Dolphin browser mini. When I change my useragent to iPhone and I go on Veoh it works okay for a little bit, and then it either stops loading videos or gives me an error message saying 'this video cannot be played' is there a fix for this? Am I doing something wrong?
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Hi! Welcome. Is this over 3G or Wifi, or have you tried both?
Either way, this is safe to try: Download "APN OnOff" from the market. Launch it and choose "Show APN list" in the middle of the screen. Press Menu and choose "Reset to default". You may or may not need to perform a reboot to see if this helps. Try it without first.
This used to help me with restoring tethering when it stopped working.
A longer method to possibly achieve the same thing, but may be worth a try if the first method doesn't work:
Perform a nandroid and flash a stock-like ROM such as xtrSENSE (what I would recommend). You only have to use it long enough to download "APN Backup & Restore" off the market. Run it and choose "Backup APNs", you can name it whatever makes sense to you such as "xtrSENSE stock APN.xml", otherwise it just uses the current date and time.
Nandroid back to KaosFroyo and install "APN Backup & Restore" again. This time choose "Restore APNs" and restore the one you backed up from xtrSENSE. Again try it without a reboot first but if it doesn't work try a reboot.
You can do this as often as you like to see if this helps with any data trouble. I'm not positive if it helps with WIFI at all; I know it helps with 3G Data.
Please let us know if any of this helps or not.
Thank you so much, its working now. Only issue now is that the bar in the program is stuck in the off position, and when I click on it to turn it back on it just goes into the settings. My connections are still fine as you can see, should I be worried?
On an unrelated note, which tethering Rom did you use? I would love to tether my phone, but the threads I have read make it seem like a daunting process to me.
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Thank you so much, its working now. Only issue now is that the bar in the program is stuck in the off position, and when I click on it to turn it back on it just goes into the settings. My connections are still fine as you can see, should I be worried?
On an unrelated note, which tethering Rom did you use? I would love to tether my phone, but the threads I have read make it seem like a daunting process to me.
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Bar in which program? APN OnOff? As long as everything's working I wouldn't worry about it since I don't use that button; I think I've noticed that before. A reboot would probably restore it, in my experience.
I've tethered under every ROM but any GingerBread one, now. Started with xtrsense, found that it was marginally more reliable under Froyo so GB would probably be good too. What was better about 2.2+ tethering was how fast the tethering connection would be made, before it took a minute or two for the computer to recognize it; now down to less than 30 seconds.
I don't recommend the old wired or wireless tether for root under 2.2+, but I haven't tried them in a while. 2.2+ and CM6+ have their own native tethering. CM6.1's notification power widgets have a WIFI tether one which connects the fastest. Free Tethering Widget off the market will also give you a widget for that and/or USB tethering, which is built into 2.2+ itself but for some reason CM doesn't include a notification power widget for.
Wireless tethering eats your battery like crazy plus made the phone extra hot, but you have to understand that it was my only home internet until a month ago since last August. I kept the battery cover off and had a fan on it, but you don't have to do that for just occasional tethering. I also had it plugged in to charge constantly; I just liked how fast wireless connected.
Wired tethering also uses battery faster and makes it warmer, just not nearly as fast or warm as wireless.
Occasionally 3G would stop and I'd have to turn off tethering and do the steps in my other post to get it going again. Most of the time a reboot after doing APN OnOff made tethering last longer.
If you know how to install drivers with Device Manager (assuming you're on Windows), or you don't mind learning I would get the latest drivers from http://htc.developers.comhttp://developer.htc.com/ if I remember correctly.
I'm on my phone at the moment, I'll check later. The driver package is all the way at the bottom of the list, the last one.
Otherwise just install HTCSync for the Eris and that'll install older drivers.
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Okay so let me get this straight... I have tethering on my Froyo 2.2 already and I just need to grab a widget in order to activate it? What is the driver for? I was under the assumption that my phone would become a "hotspot" so I could set it up to an Xbox PS3 etc. Do I need to download the driver in order to tether to the computer? If so, how would I be able to use a wired tether to something like a PS3? I am a pretty quick learner on the whole concept of rooting and flashing Roms, but I am a newb so I appreciate your time and patience.
Okay so let me get this straight... I have tethering on my Froyo 2.2 already and I just need to grab a widget in order to activate it? What is the driver for? I was under the assumption that my phone would become a "hotspot" so I could set it up to an Xbox PS3 etc. Do I need to download the driver in order to tether to the computer? If so, how would I be able to use a wired tether to something like a PS3? I am a pretty quick learner on the whole concept of rooting and flashing Roms, but I am a newb so I appreciate your time and patience.
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Okay so let me get this straight... I have tethering on my Froyo 2.2 already and I just need to grab a widget in order to activate it? What is the driver for? I was under the assumption that my phone would become a "hotspot" so I could set it up to an Xbox PS3 etc. Do I need to download the driver in order to tether to the computer? If so, how would I be able to use a wired tether to something like a PS3? I am a pretty quick learner on the whole concept of rooting and flashing Roms, but I am a newb so I appreciate your time and patience.
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If you're running a recent enough version of a ROM based on CM6.x (6.1 or 6.2?), then if you enable the tethering widget in the notification menu power buttons (the buttons at the top), then you'd don't need anything else to WIFI tether.
You can do USB tethering by going into the stock settings, but it's such a PITA to do it there it's easier to do it by using that widget I mentioned, which also handles Froyo's WIFI tethering as well. So if you're never going to do USB tethering, you don't need any other drivers (called RDNIS drivers) and you don't need that widget off the market.
If you do ever plan on wire tether, then you will need to install some RDNIS drivers (the link I gave you) unless you've already installed HTCSync, since that includes both the regular and the RDNIS drivers. I have no idea if you can wire tether to a PS3 since in Windows you need to install a driver, but you can try it and let us know, or search for other people who wanted to do the same thing. You should be able to WIFI tether, however.
No problem, I'm glad you pick things up quickly, makes it that much easier. And you're welcome!
So help me - what bar in the program were you talking about?
On APN on /off, when I reset the settings I saw a bar on the main screen highlighted on. I turned it off thinking I should rest it. I couldn't toggle it back on, bit data was still working and I did a reboot just in case. It was nothing major thankfully.
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On APN on /off, when I reset the settings I saw a bar on the main screen highlighted on. I turned it off thinking I should rest it. I couldn't toggle it back on, bit data was still working and I did a reboot just in case. It was nothing major thankfully.
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You were correct in your end assessment that it shouldn't be anything to worry about, that APN switch in the middle of the screen. I've had mixed results with it in my observations, so I don't even touch it although as you noticed it doesn't seem to hurt anything.
Thanks for verifying; that was the only thing I could imagine you might be talking about!
Good morning, Nerds. (and I use that term with utmost love and respect - seriously).
MODS: please move this if posted in wrong area. Thank you!
I don’t post much and prefer to use search, etc. to solve issues – and I’ve learned quite a bit thanks you to all. I’ve been working on a problem for two days now and it has me stumped.
Problem: I cannot connect my wife’s new Nook Tablet to wireless tether. The NT is NOT rooted and has been updated to 1.4.1. I prefer NOT to root it as she likes it and honestly she doesn’t need all the stuff rooting allows. That being said, if I need to root it, I am very close to making that call.
Here are the details:
I have Droid X2: rooted, ADW Launcher EX, lots of stuff frozen, averaging 40 hours on a single charge and loving life. It’s fast and I can do just about anything on it. I have done no ROMs or Themes cause I can get the looks I want, the toys I want and it flies already, so this is an area I’ve not chosen to learn about.
I have Xoom WiFi: same as the X2 in just about every way. I’ve also installed the AdHoc fix so I can tether. I have tethered to the X2 about 3 times when I needed to (hospital stays) but I really only did that as a backup and to learn how. BUT- it works, it smokes, and it’s easy. I use one of the older Google apks to tether from the X2, 2.0.5 I think. (I say I think cause I’ve made changes recently trying to get the NT to work). It worked great and neither the phone nor the Xoom started the Verizon sign up pages.
The NT. I really like it but am ready to root so I can do what I want. But the problem is weird so I’m not sure I need to root it – or it that will even fix it. As I have no root, I have not installed the AdHoc patch on the NT.
After reading all the pages I could find, the summary of my trial and error is as follows:
My son’s Bionic (my tester) finds and connects to my X2 tether every time, any program, any condition, no issues.
The older google codes won’t even be found by the NT. The newer ones can be found – I suspect this is because the newer ones broadcast in infrastructure mode as well and do not need the AdHoc Fix.
The newer ones only seem to work when set device as GoogleNexusOne, and the set up as Netd (I found this in a thread). When I do this, the NT FINDS the network and actually connects. BUT, both the phone and the NT redirect to Verizon pages. And even when I undo and delete the code, I have to go through and clear all cache, reboot the phone, etc as Dolphin starts up and ONLY go to the Verizon page.
With the Xoom, it would not work at all until the patch was installed. With the NT, it DOES work, it just redirects on the newer codes. But it won’t even find the older ones. KEY POINT too – when I use the newer codes on the Xoom – it too redirects! I have to undo everything to get back the functionality of the AdHoc fix, and the old code and perfect tethering.
So, if nothing worked I’d be rooting already. The fact that it does work, but redirects, makes me think I have a setting wrong (especially since the same behavior happens on the Xoom).
NOTE: I did see the posts about hacking the radio, I don’t think I’m up for that as an alternative to rooting. There are also some patches that might work, but specifically call out as NOT being for X2.
So that’s it. Any thoughts? I consider solving this without NT rooting a bit of a quest at this point!
not sure I fully understand your issue, so sorry if some of this response is redundant.
I think you know this already: is the wifi tether an adhoc network? if so, the NT won't be able to connect. You'll have to root and update the WPA_supplicant file to allow it to connect to adhoc networks. I have the OG droid and had to follow that process.
Additionally: you may be able to download a different tethering program for your phone that allows you to select the type of network your phone will tether - but it depends on your phones hardware - the og can only run adhoc. Try this one: http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com
i am unfamiliar with your phone, but I am using my galaxy S captivate phone to tether flawlessly to the nook tablets. I am not sure if this worked or didnt work before root, because everything is better with root So just know that there are others having success with it and the problem may or may not be root, My phone is rooted and running apex rom, with a rooted nook tablet.
Thanks for the input guys. I've used the programs you reference and with the settings, I CAN connect with the NT. The issue is when I do, it redirects me to VZ page. I've tried all the settings under the devices mentioned - only Netd works, and then redirects.
you said your phone was rooted right? it's odd that it's re-directing you to the VZ page, I assume telling you to sign up for the 'hot spot' feature?
I wonder if you tried putting a ROM on there like Cyanogen or something if that would make a difference? It's pretty easy, you just need to get clockwork mod (download from market) - I think it's 2 or 3 dollars for the premium version which you may or may not need for cyanogen.
I'm looking for a way to use my "retired" HTC Incredible 4G (ADR6410LVW) as a GPS puck. It was my wife's phone for 2 years and the screen is cracked, the battery is in bad shape, the camera lens is smudged, and it's been mistreated by each of my children. So it's in pretty rough shape, but I got it for a good price, and it still seems to work.
Because my tablet (rooted Kindle Fire 1st edition - stock ROM) doesn't have an internal GPS, I need to tether it to the phone to get mock GPS coordinates for several mapping applications. For this purpose, the phone works with TetherGPS if both devices are on the same (external) WiFi.
The problem is that with the provided Mobile Hotspot app, the software won't allow a connection unless there is a data source (i.e. Verizon network). Since the phone is de-activated, no source exists, so the mobile hotspot won't turn on. I will be using this in vehicles far from WiFi and I have no plans to re-activate a phone just to get a GPS. Maybe there is a way to trick the app into thinking there is a data source, I'm not sure.
I've also tried Android WiFi Tether, but I run into permission errors on the phone, and it doesn't seem to be working. I've learned from this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19935112&postcount=40) that I may need root access to use Android WiFi Tether.
I'd prefer not to root the phone if I don't have to, but if that's the only way, I'll do it. I learned from reading this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214653) that IF I want to root my phone (and do a lot more which may or may not be necessary), I need to flash update 2.17.605.5. My phone already has firmware version 2.19.605.2, so if I was to go that route, I have no idea whether I should just do a factory reset, backload the old firmware, or what.
Can someone please point me in the right direction?
You are correct that most non-carrier based WiFi Tether apps do require root. I tried experimenting with the app I use (WiFi Tether for Root Users) by changing my radio mode to GSM Only (i.e. mobile data is on, but not really going anywhere), and my laptop connected to the phone just fine.
Regarding rooting your phone, the thread you referenced for rooting is for older firmware. Since you're on 2.19.605.2, you will want this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2664460
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I'm looking for a way to use my "retired" HTC Incredible 4G (ADR6410LVW) as a GPS puck. It was my wife's phone for 2 years and the screen is cracked, the battery is in bad shape, the camera lens is smudged, and it's been mistreated by each of my children. So it's in pretty rough shape, but I got it for a good price, and it still seems to work.
Because my tablet (rooted Kindle Fire 1st edition - stock ROM) doesn't have an internal GPS, I need to tether it to the phone to get mock GPS coordinates for several mapping applications. For this purpose, the phone works with TetherGPS if both devices are on the same (external) WiFi.
The problem is that with the provided Mobile Hotspot app, the software won't allow a connection unless there is a data source (i.e. Verizon network). Since the phone is de-activated, no source exists, so the mobile hotspot won't turn on. I will be using this in vehicles far from WiFi and I have no plans to re-activate a phone just to get a GPS. Maybe there is a way to trick the app into thinking there is a data source, I'm not sure.
I've also tried Android WiFi Tether, but I run into permission errors on the phone, and it doesn't seem to be working. I've learned from this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19935112&postcount=40) that I may need root access to use Android WiFi Tether.
I'd prefer not to root the phone if I don't have to, but if that's the only way, I'll do it. I learned from reading this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214653) that IF I want to root my phone (and do a lot more which may or may not be necessary), I need to flash update 2.17.605.5. My phone already has firmware version 2.19.605.2, so if I was to go that route, I have no idea whether I should just do a factory reset, backload the old firmware, or what.
Can someone please point me in the right direction?
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Got My Rum - Now What?
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You are correct that most non-carrier based WiFi Tether apps do require root. I tried experimenting with the app I use (WiFi Tether for Root Users) by changing my radio mode to GSM Only (i.e. mobile data is on, but not really going anywhere), and my laptop connected to the phone just fine.
Regarding rooting your phone, the thread you referenced for rooting is for older firmware. Since you're on 2.19.605.2, you will want this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2664460
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Thanks for the link to the updated method. I was able to follow the instructions (with only minor detours) and got my rum. My phone is now showing S-OFF in the bootloader. However, when I reboot, I get a blank screen except the status bar on the top. When I switch to "Disk Drive", my files and such appear to still be intact based on browsing from my PC. But I can't see them on my phone.
How do I get back to a usable screen on my phone?
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Thanks for the link to the updated method. I was able to follow the instructions (with only minor detours) and got my rum. My phone is now showing S-OFF in the bootloader. However, when I reboot, I get a blank screen except the status bar on the top. When I switch to "Disk Drive", my files and such appear to still be intact based on browsing from my PC. But I can't see them on my phone.
How do I get back to a usable screen on my phone?
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That's an odd problem... Since you can get to your files via PC, I recommend backing up your files to your PC, then install a fresh RUU (older ones can be found here).
Installing the RUU will nuke all of your files and essentially make your phone "factory fresh", but you will remain s-off. (Once you're s-off, you should stay s-off pretty much no matter what you do, unless you intentionally make your phone s-on, but do not do that unless you really know what you're doing...).
After RUU, you'll need to install a superuser program (superuser or SuperSU) to (re)gain root.
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That's an odd problem... Since you can get to your files via PC, I recommend backing up your files to your PC, then install a fresh RUU (older ones can be found here).
Installing the RUU will nuke all of your files and essentially make your phone "factory fresh", but you will remain s-off. (Once you're s-off, you should stay s-off pretty much no matter what you do, unless you intentionally make your phone s-on, but do not do that unless you really know what you're doing...).
After RUU, you'll need to install a superuser program (superuser or SuperSU) to (re)gain root.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, it looks like those RUU files have been taken down.
I wonder if my problem started with the script from mdmower. I had to run it multiple times before I got it to work; it turns out two lines had to be run immediately after each other and I was waiting for the first to finish before typing in and running the second. I wonder if the second line did something that can be undone by re-running it with different options? I have no idea what ln or -s are. Here is the script I'm talking about.
Code:
adb restore fakebackup.ab
adb shell "while ! ln -s /data/local.prop /data/data/com.android.settings/a/file99
Got it working
I was able to get it working by doing a factory reset in twrp. I lost all my data, but I had backed up to my PC first, so I can re-install.
Thanks again for the help!
Back to square one
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I was able to get it working by doing a factory reset in twrp. I lost all my data, but I had backed up to my PC first, so I can re-install.
Thanks again for the help!
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So my apps are re-installed on my phone, and Wifi Tether has root access, but I still can't connect my phone to my other devices. Neither my Kindle Fire nor my PC can see my phone's Wifi, whether the house Wifi is on or off. I tried installing the Wifi Tether on my rooted Fire and that also didn't allow me to connect the two devices.
So am I SOL - no tether without an internet stream? Is there another way to pass GPS coordinates from a de-activated phone to a wifi device? It seems like it should be such an easy thing to do.
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So am I SOL - no tether without an internet stream? Is there another way to pass GPS coordinates from a de-activated phone to a wifi device? It seems like it should be such an easy thing to do.
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I would expect that your devices should see and be able to connect to your phone's WiFi tether, but they won't be able to go anywhere unless your phone has a mobile data connection.
Maybe with the device connected to the phone, you could use something like BlueNMEA or perhaps adapt GPSTether to work? (Both apps on Google play)
If you figure it out, please post how you did it, as others may be looking to do the same thing. Good luck!
Still trying to figure this one out. I guess if it was easy, I wouldn't have learned so much along the way.
According to the Android-Wifi-Tether site (http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/Setup_HTC_Desire_Incredible) the Droid Incredible is a special case. No mention of the Incredible 4G, so the workaround probably doesn't apply.
I guess I should try other Wifi tether apps and see if that's the problem.
Have you tried a custom ROM? I powered up my fireball last night with CM11 and I could connect my nexus 5 to it. I didn't get a chance to power up my old Nook Color to check if it shared location info. But it connected to the hotspot fine.
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Still trying to figure this one out. I guess if it was easy, I wouldn't have learned so much along the way.
According to the Android-Wifi-Tether site (http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/Setup_HTC_Desire_Incredible) the Droid Incredible is a special case. No mention of the Incredible 4G, so the workaround probably doesn't apply.
I guess I should try other Wifi tether apps and see if that's the problem.
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Success!
I installed CM11 on the phone. It now creates a WiFi hotspot with no internet access that my Kindle can access, and allows me to TetherGPS. I had to re-install all my apps on the phone, but I think I got that straight finally. Both the built-in WiFi tether and the Android WiFi Tether app seem to work.
So it must have been a limitation with the original OS that was keeping it from working.
If you'd have asked me two weeks ago if I thought I'd ever hack into and modify an old cell phone, I'd have said no way. Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.
Glad it worked out. Congratulations on the learning journey.
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I installed CM11 on the phone. It now creates a WiFi hotspot with no internet access that my Kindle can access, and allows me to TetherGPS. I had to re-install all my apps on the phone, but I think I got that straight finally. Both the built-in WiFi tether and the Android WiFi Tether app seem to work.
So it must have been a limitation with the original OS that was keeping it from working.
If you'd have asked me two weeks ago if I thought I'd ever hack into and modify an old cell phone, I'd have said no way. Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.
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Excellent. Glad you figured it out and got it working!