For those, who think about purchasing an Xperia Mini Pro, or enjoy well-written reviews:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_mini_pro-review-633.php
UPDATE: ... and now it's time for the also capable smaller bro
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_mini-review-634.php
They always post reviews later, but they're quite correct.
Feel free to read, comment, post other reviews, or anything related coming up
I saved the conclusion for later (called Final words), where they regularly discuss potential competiting devices in a unique manner - now I checked it, I've never seen such a politely handled struggle
Thanks for the heads up.
Very thorough review indeed... and I'm even more tempted now.
Ok, so I'm happy with my LG P500 Optimus One, but a hardware keyboard AND ARMv7 processor in an even smaller form factor would be very very sweet indeed and it looks like it will be really affordable to boot.
I was tired waiting for them to post that review so I bought already last week. Anyway, will read it, thanks for sharing
Well written review, now I'm 100% sure that this is my next phone. Liked it very much from beggining
Done reading. Just like I predicted, no worthy competition as of now. And very much suited to my requirement. Really awesome product, the competitors presented were Sony Ericsson as well, except for that HTC Chacha which has lower specs.
Of course, no phone is perfect I have 2 complaints:
1. Battery life short. But what to expect on this form factor?
2. The HOME button kinda hard to press. But perhaps this will loosen in time?
Still, I did not regret the purchase, was worth every cent.
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1. Battery life short. But what to expect on this form factor?
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Can you please elaborate on the battery life?
For how many hours does it last and what is your usage like?
Can you also post a mini-review for this phone?
Thanks!
There's a thread about battery life
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1229463
for my feel : it seems after some days of getting the hang of the phone battery life, it looks like if doing nothing with the phone at all sit it standby, it easily reaches 2 days of life and can even go for a few hours more but i doubt it will reach 3 days. however, once normally using the phone like browsing wifi, tinkering, etc. it definitely can only max out in less than 2 days. if doing more browsing and use calls, 3G, in one day or less it likely will finish the charge. if straight wifi internet browsing, i doubt this will reach 7 hours max. perhaps need more cycle charging as phone barely a week old.
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Thanks sxxorp for the heads up. Was waiting for GSM Arena's review on the Mini Pro. Got tired of waiting for the review so I went ahead and purchased a Mini Pro. I love my new phone and worth every penny.
GSM Arena's review made me more convinced that I made the right decision. But I will now turn off XLoud in my Mini Pro as the reviewer suggested. We'll see if it helps.
Never forget, that maybe they had a little bit faulty device in this area, we don't know their version, in addition this can be improved through software upgrade.
So try, test, verify
Addition of Xperia Mini review - enjoy
I know I'm off-topic, just... When will the Xperia Ray thread open?
The Xperia mini pro looks great (I've got an x10 mini pro), but the Ray.... mmmh, I'm not sure what to buy ^^
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Hi guys,
If you have or have had the X10 aswell as the Samsung Galaxy S, please give me some feedback in this thread.
Thanx
- Martin
my advice x10 coz sony ericsson more trusted mark and not big different in specifications
regards
I took a look to the thread,and everybody is saying the Galaxy is way faster and 100 times better, so there is no point for us X10 user to go there and tell that the X10 is better.There are a lot of threads here about the X10 Vs. Samsung ,Desire etc. I choosed the X10 with the best build,design,and almost if not the same specs as the other phones around.(and multitouch is not an issue for me).
So choose what you like.
Being a thread in the Galaxy S forum, I am aware that people there might be a bit biased. However, I must say that the Samsung does feel snappier so apparantly the better hardware aren't just there to look good on the specs. The display also looks good but I'm a tad worried about the pixel density on the Samsung after being an X10 owner (which I still am, for that matter).
However, you don't get better tests than from people using it every day, so I was wanting to hear pros and cons from people who have or have had both devices.
- Martin
EDIT: In the other thread, I've made a list of what I think are the pros and cons of each phone. However, I've only read about the Galaxy S and spend a little time with one in a store.
I'd wait for the 2.1 upgrade and see how they compare then.... I'm anticipating some significantly noticeable improvements...
My contract ends on september the 26th, so I can't get the new phone until the day after. I hope the 2.1 update is release at least a week before that. The same goes for the 2.2 update for the Galaxy, which is to be released soon(ish) aswell.
Hi if you put the thread in galaxy s forum I'm sure you will get mainly positive answers. I have a galaxy s and I will just list what I think.
First the bad
GPS is currently not very good, sometimes it works well and usually gets a fix very quickly but all too often it will randomly put you facing the wrong way if you stop in a queue and sometimes will not get a signal or lose signal
The screen although perfect size and excellent multitouch response uses a strange subpixel layout which when you look closely you can see the individual leds this makes the text fuzzy when small and also makes edges fuzzy (most people don't seem to notice this but I look close at my screen)
no camera flash - night vision mode is good though and prob gives better pics of outdoor night images than most - not good for close/indoor night stuff
The good
Im not gonna say a lot here (I'm sure you have already heard loads) but I will say this is the fastest phone I have used, no other android I've used is as fast, good at playing games and general use. It's a nice size - seems small even though it has a large screen (which contary to what I say above is the best screen I have used on any phone - just wanted to let you know it is not perfect - all amoled screens seem to have that effect)
Another big plus is that it's just about the most popular android phone there is and likely to be very well supported by Samsung and all of us.
It also has a few bonuses which you are unlikely to see on most other phones (tv out, free good apps from samsung, dlna, wifi tethering etc)
As you can tell the galaxy isn't perfect but it's the one I waited for so that's where my vote lies (especially if like me you like to play a lot of games many of the best need multi touch)
still you may have different needs than me, I suggest reading all the reviews you can find and trying them out if you can (try gsmarena for reviews I find them nice and detailed and generally unbiased)
EDIT - Just looked at your other post and see you already have a x10, my advice then would be to wait for the 2.1 update coming soon and see what you think, unless you have lots of money or can do an exchange relatively cheap then you might just wanna do that. Otherwise you might wanna hold out and see if anything even better comes out soon, im thinking 4.3" super high res dual core or 2ghz I'm sure they can't be too far off and your x10 should do until they do
badasschris said:
Hi if you put the thread in galaxy s forum I'm sure you will get mainly positive answers. I have a galaxy s and I will just list what I think.
First the bad
GPS is currently not very good, sometimes it works well and usually gets a fix very quickly but all too often it will randomly put you facing the wrong way if you stop in a queue and sometimes will not get a signal or lose signal
The screen although perfect size and excellent multitouch response uses a strange subpixel layout which when you look closely you can see the individual leds this makes the text fuzzy when small and also makes edges fuzzy (most people don't seem to notice this but I look close at my screen)
no camera flash - night vision mode is good though and prob gives better pics of outdoor night images than most - not good for close/indoor night stuff
The good
Im not gonna say a lot here (I'm sure you have already heard loads) but I will say this is the fastest phone I have used, no other android I've used is as fast, good at playing games and general use. It's a nice size - seems small even though it has a large screen (which contary to what I say above is the best screen I have used on any phone - just wanted to let you know it is not perfect - all amoled screens seem to have that effect)
Another big plus is that it's just about the most popular android phone there is and likely to be very well supported by Samsung and all of us.
It also has a few bonuses which you are unlikely to see on most other phones (tv out, free good apps from samsung, dlna, wifi tethering etc)
As you can tell the galaxy isn't perfect but it's the one I waited for so that's where my vote lies (especially if like me you like to play a lot of games many of the best need multi touch)
still you may have different needs than me, I suggest reading all the reviews you can find and trying them out if you can (try gsmarena for reviews I find them nice and detailed and generally unbiased)
EDIT - Just looked at your other post and see you already have a x10, my advice then would be to wait for the 2.1 update coming soon and see what you think, unless you have lots of money or can do an exchange relatively cheap then you might just wanna do that. Otherwise you might wanna hold out and see if anything even better comes out soon, im thinking 4.3" super high res dual core or 2ghz I'm sure they can't be too far off and your x10 should do until they do
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very unbiassed reply..i'd like you to wait for some time... and compare both phones with upgrades.. every device has its pros and cons.. so know what you want out of a device and make your decision. possibly by that time something better than these two may come out in the market... theres no ending for this..
Id have to say that if the Samsung S had a decent flash (why they wouldn't include one is crazy), i would be pretty tempted to jump ship. They've already ported CM6 to it so the guys at Cyanogen must think its a worth while device and there support would be good enough for me.
galaxy is way better in almost every way. co-worker has it. played with it and from the first few minutes i knew that the galaxy s was a better phone. no question.
and every phone that came out or recently came out this year is moving on to 2.2 or even to gingerbread. x10 only going to 2.1? while 2.1 is better than 1.6, i'm still a bit disappointed.
The news of a psp phone intrigues me. If you like games I'd wait to hear more about that.
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I cant speak for the actual Galaxy S model but I did have the Captivate for 28 days. I loved the screen and it did play Asphalt HD very well. The GPS was mostly uses less and I wasnt crazy about the soft buttons. The lack of a camera led or notification led is a real bummer.
I have to be honest though. The Captivate was the buggiest Android (oem build) I have ever used. There are ways to "fix" some of the bugs but the GPS and shut down/reboot seem to persist.
Every phone has issues but the Captivate had a couple that I just couldnt live with.
The X10 has been a completely different experience for me. Very well built and very stable OS. I am not sure if this is thanks to AT&T having a newer build or not. I have no regrets with switching to the X10.
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naplesbill said:
I cant speak for the actual Galaxy S model but I did have the Captivate for 28 days. I loved the screen and it did play Asphalt HD very well. The GPS was mostly uses less and I wasnt crazy about the soft buttons. The lack of a camera led or notification led is a real bummer.
I have to be honest though. The Captivate was the buggiest Android (oem build) I have ever used. There are ways to "fix" some of the bugs but the GPS and shut down/reboot seem to persist.
Every phone has issues but the Captivate had a couple that I just couldnt live with.
The X10 has been a completely different experience for me. Very well built and very stable OS. I am not sure if this is thanks to AT&T having a newer build or not. I have no regrets with switching to the X10.
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+1 The led light and the notification led are very important to me. I agree with everything naplesbill said. Just to add a few more things, the screen on the x10 i think produces more realistic colors and thats with 16k atm so should be even better with 2.1 and 16m also text is sharper on the x10 vs the galaxy so if you browse and read things alot that is somthing to consider. The x10 is very stable and no lag like the samsung, its very well build and its beautiful. Overall great powerfull stable phone with unique looks. X10 hasnt let me down.
hello all.
I am posting this in hopes of getting a favorable response from all the good folks that use the x10(i).
i am seriously considering getting an x10i (either for myself or the wife) however i wanted to open a discussion on some things...
in the past i bought an x10i (about 4 or so months ago - maybe longer) and i didnt like it so much not because of the hardware but because android 1.6 was sooo awful -- slow, sluggish and damn problematic. well now we have 2.2 on other devices and the x10 has 2.1 which is great.
I currently own a galaxy s and i love it for the most part. it lacks some hardware features like a camera flash, real notification led and its just Samsung. not the best when it comes to these things.
se on the other hand has real great potential and makes great looking phones although sometimes careless.
i see the x10 as having the things the galaxy s lacks but main the inability to still have 2.2 or even 2.3 which the galaxy may get first.
other things like the type of processor... i havent got a x10 in my hand to compare to the galaxy but is the arm processor on the galaxy faster than the qualcomm on the x10?
any feedback / advise is greatly appreciated.
oh and before i forget. the x10 is really the only option IF the purchase decision is made. the x10 i can get for $500 ... cant afford another galaxy s for $700. so its either x10 or nothing.
No.. no and no again.
The x10 has many bugs and faults.
The most common problem is hearing other ppl speak in a phone call.
YAY !!!!!!!!!
i know there are a lot of people ready to say this phone sucks, but as with any other android phone, if you tweak it enough, it's a great phone.
some days i get up to 48 hours of usage and some days i get 1 day.
there are times when it's slow, but if you close some of the running tasks it's great.
and this is the case with any other android phone.
also people complain about it not having 2.2.x but hey, i use it enough to say that does not matter.
IT DOES NOT HAVE MULTI TOUCH, so if you are the type that plays a lot of games, you might miss out on the ones that need multi touch.
just a few of my thoughts
ratheen said:
YAY !!!!!!!!!
i know there are a lot of people ready to say this phone sucks, but as with any other android phone, if you tweak it enough, it's a great phone.
some days i get up to 48 hours of usage and some days i get 1 day.
there are times when it's slow, but if you close some of the running tasks it's great.
and this is the case with any other android phone.
also people complain about it not having 2.2.x but hey, i use it enough to say that does not matter.
IT DOES NOT HAVE MULTI TOUCH, so if you are the type that plays a lot of games, you might miss out on the ones that need multi touch.
just a few of my thoughts
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48 hours of standby and 8 hours of usage...
Also multi touch allows you to type much faster.
ratheen said:
YAY !!!!!!!!!
i know there are a lot of people ready to say this phone sucks, but as with any other android phone, if you tweak it enough, it's a great phone.
some days i get up to 48 hours of usage and some days i get 1 day.
there are times when it's slow, but if you close some of the running tasks it's great.
and this is the case with any other android phone.
also people complain about it not having 2.2.x but hey, i use it enough to say that does not matter.
IT DOES NOT HAVE MULTI TOUCH, so if you are the type that plays a lot of games, you might miss out on the ones that need multi touch.
just a few of my thoughts
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In reference to the multi-touch. isn't that a promised update? and hardly have i found a game that really uses multi-touch ...
i realize that 2.2 has some improvements -- also SE has capped the frame rate at 30 for what-ever-reason so it may not feel as quick as the galaxyS. but whatever. 2.2 or 2.1 as long as they sort of keep up and not keep us in the 1.6 days!
i am considering getting it anyhow and probably handing the galaxyS to the wife.
this video shows good performance; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-zyb1Tnrjw
Also consider the fact that you need to send in the phone to a SE service center several times before they fix it.
As the first few times they will not even look at the phone.
They will just re-flash and send it back.
Also they are not enabling multitouch... they are enabling dual touch "it is very limited.
cylent said:
In reference to the multi-touch. isn't that a promised update? and hardly have i found a game that really uses multi-touch ...
i realize that 2.2 has some improvements -- also SE has capped the frame rate at 30 for what-ever-reason so it may not feel as quick as the galaxyS. but whatever. 2.2 or 2.1 as long as they sort of keep up and not keep us in the 1.6 days!
i am considering getting it anyhow and probably handing the galaxyS to the wife.
this video shows good performance; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-zyb1Tnrjw
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quake3 ?
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PartyVirginX10 said:
quake3 ?
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only if you buy a zeemote or change the control scheme.
i must say something horrible that i never saw my self saying before as i have always been a htc and android lover.
Im going for iphone 4 now, i sold my x10i...
You know why? Its not for the estetics, of course the x10i i so damn beautiful but, i cant STAND that my dad has a iphone 3g, thats right the first facking iphone and his phone doesnt lag anywhere.
i can say what most android kids usually say: "Oh but i have 1000Mhz armz0r and bla.bla.bla" but almost every android phone LAGS. iphone doesnt...
So im gonna go for iphone 4 for a year and see if the android gets better. Then ill join the android train again.
was fun thou...
Dont like the idea that a phone "Can BE" better IF you tweak it and ladidaaaa. I want a fast phone from the start...
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i must say something horrible that i never saw my self saying before as i have always been a htc and android lover.
Im going for iphone 4 now, i sold my x10i...
You know why? Its not for the estetics, of course the x10i i so damn beautiful but, i cant STAND that my dad has a iphone 3g, thats right the first facking iphone and his phone doesnt lag anywhere.
i can say what most android kids usually say: "Oh but i have 1000Mhz armz0r and bla.bla.bla" but almost every android phone LAGS. iphone doesnt...
So im gonna go for iphone 4 for a year and see if the android gets better. Then ill join the android train again.
was fun thou...
Dont like the idea that a phone "Can BE" better IF you tweak it and ladidaaaa. I want a fast phone from the start...
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QFT
quoted for truth!
I would say get it if you're willing to spend some time tweaking the hell out of it. My phone is running better and smoother than all the desires and galaxies of my friends.
But honestly, don't ask in the x10 section. You'll almost definitely get a "get it" from most people since we're just not really neutral in our opinions. How could we be? It's the same in every section here on xda. Ask somewhere away from enthusiasts EXCEPT, like i said before, you're willing to spend time tweaking this device.
Cheers
Qwer23
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The new hardware generation is right around the corner. If I where you I would use the Galaxy a little liner and wait for the dual core devices for example.
I myself can say: I never have.
This phone does seem to have less to none downsides, I heard reviewers complaining about the backcover of the phone, a missing camera button and the Samsung hubs being messy (mainly the social hub which I'm looking forward to, as I like it being all-in-one).
On the other half the advantages:
1. Huge 4,3'' Screen
2. Super AMOLED Plus (less energy consumption, more subpixels (= sharper), better colors)
3. 1,2 GHz Dual Core processor (less battery consumption, more power, great overall performance, ability to record and play 1080p videos and 720p flash content in the browser.
4. Android 2.3.3; great stability and a zillion apps. Nothing more to say.
5. The phone's design. I personally like it.
6. It's a super leightweight, you won't even notice holding it in your hand.
7. Huge internal storage (16/32gb and the support of up to 32gb SDHC
8. Touch Wiz 4.0
9. AllShare
10. 8MP Cam and 1080p recording
11. NFC (not available in every region)
12. On device encryption (imporant for business people)
13. Other technologies for business people (Cisco stuff, VPN and similar things)
14. Multimedia monster (plays almost every file you can imagine)
15 - 45634562475. All the things I didn't mention
I'm getting this phone the moment it's available in my country, no matter what, this is my personal phone of the year, I check all relevant pages daily to get all the news about this phone, kinda addicted I guess but it's very hard to resist this beautiful phone !
Anybody feeling the same ?
same goes for me, every delay is such pain in the ass.
i cant remember when i had the urge to own something so bad like this beast.
will you buy this phone? yeah, **** yeah?
very constructive poll right there
amongst your halfassed feattures list:15 - 45634562475. All the things I didn't mention
WTF? are you like 12 years old?
I felt this way while waiting for my motorcycle to be delivered...
Now Waiting for this phone is crazy... I hate the rumor mill of delays, it kills you then you get some joe schmoe saying, it was unconfirmed and it all dies down.
This phone looks really good specs wise and reviews have done it justice.
Well, I was eager ALMOST as much before my HTC HD2 was delivered ...........
Since the HD2 disappointed me somewhat I deeply hope the S2 will make it up ..............
The other phone which I anticipated so much was infact the HD2. That supermonster of a phone, after two years, is still a monster. The only phone that can dual-boot Android and WP7.
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will you buy this phone? yeah, **** yeah?
very constructive poll right there
amongst your halfassed feattures list:15 - 45634562475. All the things I didn't mention
WTF? are you like 12 years old?
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Hater, much?
The poll is obviously for fun aswell as the "15 - 45634562475."-stuff. Though I expect people who visit this subforum to be interested in the SGS2. Why not hype the phone abit that we're all waiting for? You can still present your opinion about the phone in this thread as I don't care if negative or positive but if you're just whining about others liking the phone then this is certainly the wrong area for you to be at.
Btw your critizising and whining makes YOU look like a 12 year old. Then again I'd like to know what you encounter to my "halfassed list". Bring it hater, bring it !
And yes, I love every aspect of this phone. If you're going from Samsung I8910HD to SGS2 this is a huge overall improvement, and there are people out there who switch from phones less good than my OHD, you should be able to imagine that those people really look forward to this phone.
Master05 said:
there are people out there who switch from phones less good than my OHD, you should be able to imagine that those people really look forward to this phone.
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I'm upgrading from a Sanyo SCP-8400 to the SGS2. You won't believe just how much I'm looking forward to this phone!!!
To answer the original question - there has never been a phone I've wanted more than this one. I was about to get an SGS when this was announced. There was plenty of debate before I picked that ahead of it's peers. Not so this time. There are no close seconds, no runner-ups, no debating among features to see which I want. Anything else would be a compromise.
No, I've never been this eager to get a phone. I haven't really anticipated the release of a phone as much as have videogame stuff. I hope that we'll see a released date soon, and then I can mark it on my calendar
I'm going to be upgrading from an HTC Magic.
I was really excited about the atrix and xoom but this phone is just great
I've never wanted something so badly as this phone
Its just f&$kng awesome
Every time I feel like settling for another phone I repeat to myself "Good comes to those who wait" and hopefully a good outcome will come for all of us soon.
Especially you UK guys
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I'm upgrading from a Sanyo SCP-8400 to the SGS2. You won't believe just how much I'm looking forward to this phone!!!
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WTF! I am upgrading from a HTC Touch Pro which really sucks with its resistive touch sreen compared to the one from SGSII!
btt: I check this forum and the google news search every day! There never was a phone which I so hardly wanted to OWN!
BUT, I'll wait for the first REAL Reviews from different Websites and from passionate objective users!
And btw I would prefer to pay only 500€ max.
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And btw I would prefer to pay only 500€ max.
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I expect the price to go down to 500€ until release, some shops certainly will go down but then again I prefer wellknown sellers like Amazon who offer good service in case of warranty and return, i wonder if they would go down to something like 499,- aswell if another shop does (in the last 30 days or so the price went from 599,- to 548,50 which is the right direction but hopefully not all).
Oh and to the Sanyo SCP-8400 - Guy:
It will be a whole new world for you
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I expect the price to go down to 500€ until release, some shops certainly will go down but then again I prefer wellknown sellers like Amazon who offer good service in case of warranty and return, i wonder if they would go down to something like 499,- aswell if another shop does (in the last 30 days or so the price went from 599,- to 548,50 which is the right direction but hopefully not all).
Oh and to the Sanyo SCP-8400 - Guy:
It will be a whole new world for you
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Yes, i want this phone......really....really....bad!!!
But i wanted my N97 also that bad.....oh oh oh the mistake and pain i sufferd from that phone :/
Price has dropped here in NL, now it's 515,- Euro
https://www.telecomtelecom.nl/producten/details/SI9100B
I want this baby sooo bad
It was the same with Nokia N900 and HTC TyTn2 ...
I think I wanted my n97 more... sad that it turned out to be such a dud!
Now, I'm just looking forward to a new experience!
Custom ROMs/kernels will take care of the no camera button issue soon enough.
i have to agree with this thread, never wanted any device so badly
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Custom ROMs/kernels will take care of the no camera button issue soon enough.
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How will a ROM create a hardware camera button?
I was eager as much before mysamsung omnia hd was delivered ........... and it proved a real beast. an unbelievable phone, with not even a single drawback, expecting the same from s2
A week after I bought this phone the Xperia mini came out. It just broke my heart to see the newer phones specs! :'( 1Ghz +HD recording.
Anyone else feeling the same?
I bought this stupid crap phone in the beginning of 2011. Stupidest choice I've made so far.
I bought this crap 4 months ago and 2 weeks ago my earphone stopped working. I took it to a service point to be fixed and they told me that it must be replaced with a new one BUT my warranty was void as i was responsible for the problem!
I told them to just return the phone unrepaired and now the damn thing doesnt even turn on!!!
Crappy company, crappy phone, crappy technicians, to hell with all of them!
That was the last SE phone i bought!
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I bought this crap 4 months ago and 2 weeks ago my earphone stopped working. I took it to a service point to be fixed and they told me that it must be replaced with a new one BUT my warranty was void as i was responsible for the problem!
I told them to just return the phone unrepaired and now the damn thing doesnt even turn on!!!
Crappy company, crappy phone, crappy technicians, to hell with all of them!
That was the last SE phone i bought!
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I have to agree with EVERY WORD! Their customer service is **** and their phones are even worse. My next phone will be either an HTC or Samsung, but one thing is certain, my friend, NO MORE SONY ERICSSON! For ever and ever and ever.
Over the years, I have had two Sony Ericsson phones and I have been displeased with both of them.
I got my crap back in summer 2010(june-july) now i am looking for a proper android smartphone and definitely not from SE.
OMG the same here >.< i want that new mini its much cooler with 1Ghz,bravia engine,Android 2.3 Gingerbread and the new cool SE interface the old one sucks (1 widget per page >.<) and HD recording!
well, buying an x10 mini/mini pro in 2011 is, with no disrespect meant, stupid piece of an act!!!!...u should keep an eye on the market before buying this!!!!....for me, i always fancied the modding power of this cell and i find it 2 be kinda cute
but for every1, u should always have another "power" cell for daily (and satisfying) usage....am lucky enough to have an Incredible S as my "daily" cell....the mini is just for "fun"
but for 1 thing, i'll vouch word for word--SE Customer Service SUCKSSSS!!!!my headfone stopped working within 2 months of purchase and they said "I" did something wrong!!! ....and i don't know bout other places, but in India, dey don't even keep tab on it's development too....dey were like fish out of water seeing me use dual touch "pinch 2 zoom" (i didn't tell them dat it was "fake" ...didn't want 2 ruin their "alice in wonderland" expression )
x10 mini screen size is too small man :| if it had a 3 inch display it would be a perfect android!
Other than small screens and ear pieces can anyone elaborate on why this is crap?
I have one on its way to me now.
Also are the custom roms a big improvment over stock?
For me this phone combined with cm7 is the best android phone around.
Custom roms are a great improvement over stock. In fact I find the mini pro much easier to use than any phone with touch screen only and chugs along quite nicely for photos, music, web browsing and heaps of apps and games.
Not a piece of crap at all compared to similarly priced phones here in nz unless you choose to run stock.
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Excellent phone,
First I bought it for my wife.
And then I bought another one for me.
It all depends of what is important for you.
It is small and robust, you can use it with one hand, and the camera is still one of the best in the market. The GPS fix is fast. The sound is excellent to play MP3. The speakers are quite good. The battery life is excellent using CM6.
I used to have bigger phone, bigger screen but frankly, if you don't spend you life sending SMS and webbrowsing on a phone, you should rather consider a smaller, handy phone. On top of that you have less chances to have your phone stolen.
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Excellent phone,
First I bought it for my wife.
And then I bought another one for me.
It all depends of what is important for you.
It is small and robust, you can use it with one hand, and the camera is still one of the best in the market. The GPS fix is fast. The sound is excellent to play MP3. The speakers are quite good. The battery life is excellent using CM6.
I used to have bigger phone, bigger screen but frankly, if you don't spend you life sending SMS and webbrowsing on a phone, you should rather consider a smaller, handy phone. On top of that you have less chances to have your phone stolen.
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You're right in what you say.
Shame this is my first post here,, But for all you fine folks complaining about it (the phone).. did you not read up on the phone specs before you bought it.. look at pictures of the the phone,,possibly hold it in you hand and turn it on look at the screen and say wow it's small ect.. well if you did and you still bought it, only to complain about it now.. Don't blame S.E as I seriously doubt that any of their sales reps where there twisting your arm.. Customer service is another story..
This phone is actually quite good for what it offers and more! It's just that 5 days after I got it the Xperia mini got launched. That was a punch in my face! XD
Wish we too could get HD recording(atleast 720p) sigh!
I only realise SE have crappy software after they announced that X10 mini pro isn't going to be updated to Gingerbread coz of non-portable code.
I also realise SE have the crappiest software after using CM7.
But then again, this phone's hardware combined with CM7 makes the best phone out of all I've ever had so far.
Cheers.
Have got a prerelease new mini pro, which seems to have all the bits that were missing from the x10 mini. We now have the HD 720 recording, bravia screen, exmor camera and all the other bells and whistles SE are sticking in things..its a bit of a chunker though, couple of mm thicker than the previous model.
hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
I had the same problem and decided to buy the Z2. I have no problems with overheating whatever I do. Software is the best customized android out there. Better than sense or touchwiz. Idk how long it takes to fully charge but not very long at least not longer than on my m7
I would go for the z2. Awesome phone
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It doesnt overheat playing games or other stuff, only 4k recording. M8 is more comfortable in hand, z2 has better package overall.
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hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
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Hello XperiaZ2 user switched from HTC One(m7) here! Overheating while you are playing game isn't a problem, it happens to all phone. (At least my HTC One did) And I am playing HD Youtube everyday but at least I don't get burnt, so it must be okay for you too. Also as 4k is new technology for smartphone, we have to understand it is still not perfect, some user reports that software update solve this overheating problem and I don't feel it too hot.
Yeah I couldn't choose between M8 and Z2 and OnePlus..... but finally I bought XperiaZ2. As they have better spec and price is lower than M8 and I wanted something funny! (Oneplus is good price and good spec, but it's too simple!)
They have shatter proof glass It shouldn't break easily.(I dropped several times, but there is no crack and working fine!)
Yeah XperiaZ2 is really good phone I've used Xperia Z and HTC One(m7) yeah much better than these. I recommend you to go with Sony.
- so you guys all agree that there is no overheat while playing games or some intensive apps ? at least not more than other phones right ?
one more question .. is it easy to scratch ? (does it require special care and should i be worried where and how i place it ?)
please be very honest and i would like to see more opinions please
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- so you guys all agree that there is no overheat while playing games or some intensive apps ? at least not more than other phones right ?
one more question .. is it easy to scratch ? (does it require special care and should i be worried where and how i place it ?)
please be very honest and i would like to see more opinions please
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Okay. There is some heating but not as bad as overheating.
As they are using shatter proof glass I can't see scratch with out case and protector.
You take your time and think. Z3 might be coming in few months.... (it's what happend when I bought Xperia Z)
It overheats if there are so many apps running in the background and when you shoot 4K videos.
Charging takes me over 4 hours I thought my charger was faulty but it wasn't I'm using my old samsung charger it takes around 3 hours.
I bought HTC One m8 for my partner and I'm jealous tbh. But I'm happy with my z2 as well. HTC One m8 feeling is a lot better in hand and camera is a lot faster.
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I have left the LG G2 for the Xperia Z2 and glad I did.
I would say it heats up less than the G2 when playing intensive games.
The only thing the G2 had that I wish the Z2 had is knock off. It has knock on, just can't turn off the screen with a double tap :/
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It overheats if there are so many apps running in the background and when you shoot 4K videos.
Charging takes me over 4 hours I thought my charger was faulty but it wasn't I'm using my old samsung charger it takes around 3 hours.
I bought HTC One m8 for my partner and I'm jealous tbh. But I'm happy with my z2 as well. HTC One m8 feeling is a lot better in hand and camera is a lot faster.
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I meant in daily use...... We don't use phone like that...
i've had my Z2 for about a week now and haven't noticed any excessive overheating. i've never had a smartphone that didn't heat up somewhat while playing games and i don't feel the Z2 is any worse than my HTC One M7 was. i prefer Sense's widgets and apps but the interface on the Z2 is quite nice and i am enjoying messing around with the camera. i think i can agree with the reviews in that the Z2 doesn't necessarily beat other phones in any one area but it is solid or even great in all areas. this is probably the first phone i've owned that has all the things i want (front-facing speakers, CAMERA BUTTON, and SD card) and doesn't compromise anywhere.
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As HTC One(m7) and Z2 has different Concept so it can't simply compared. And they are different generation.... But I can definitely say Z2 is the one of the best smartphone I've ever had include my Smartphone from Japan..... Anyway you might get overheat problem but you can simply take it back to shop.... (do it before you messed it up with rooting!) As my latest phone is XperiaZ2 this opinion is bit biased, but still it's a good phone.... Some time I feel it big..... it might not be big problem if you are switching from G2....
Give it a try........ You'll love it. ( ･`ω･´)
There is heat on the Z2, but not 'Overheating'. Heats up just as much as any other smartphone out there when gaming. But doesn't get hot to the extent u can make barbecue or scramble eggs on it. And when u are not gaming, it is ice cool (at least, mine is). The Xperia Z2 is the best device i ever used, and i'm not even rooted yet. xD
I have to agree with a lot of the comments already posted.
The phone WILL heat up but it doesn't affect performance in any way.. and it's not excessively heating up more than any other smartphone would...
Also.. This is the first phone where I don't feel it's absolutely necessary to Unlock bootloader and root...
I have been unlocking and rooting all my previous phones because I felt it's essential to do so... S2, S3, Z, Z1...
LaMMi
j_h3000 said:
hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
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Would suggest z2 without a doubt.
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j_h3000 said:
hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
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Opinions are subjective. The choice is there. All the mobiles you mention are top models, 'Flag ships', in their brand and function extremely well. All are different and there is no such device as 'the best'. You need to discover what phone will fit your needs.
I change phones about twice a year, sometimes three times. I am a technophile, Its my hobby, my vice. My advice to you would be to see all the mobiles you mention, have a play and make YOUR choice.
I lean toward Sony at present and away from Samsung and HTC. I do this because I FIND the UI on the HTC and the Samsung's too heavy. I PREFERE the UI on the Sony brand. I do find the quality for a flag ship mobile to be well represented by both HTC and Sony. I prefer the Sony only through choice.
I have owned several HTC mobiles and I live out in the countryside where signal strength is poor. HTC so far have been one of the weakest in terms of being able to pick up a signal. The Sony and Samsung also LG have all been fine with Nokia being the most competent in terms of catching signal strength.
I sold my SG Note 3 within weeks. This was MY FAULT, I purchased the phone on pre sale order before I had the chance to even hold one. When I held it, after owning the Sony Xperia Z, I was bitterly disappointed with the phones plastic construction. Plastic leather back with plastic play stitching plus the plastic chrome sides? It just didn't give ME that quality buzz and pride of ownership. My Sony Z Ultra is a quality device that oozes class and quality of materials and construction, size is the problem there.
I now use the nexus 5 and the Sony Xperia Z ultra. I have ordered the Z2 last week and will sell the Nexus 5.
IF the Z2 is built to the same standards the Ultra and Z are then I shall be a very happy person. I miss the UI as the Nexus 5 is not serving my needs even though it also is a very fine mobile indeed.
Please don't read too many forums. If you took notice of the reports, reviews and posts you read on ANY forum you would never dare make another single purchase including the shoes on your feet. All the mobiles you mention are best buys for the owner. Its what your expectations are that counts not mine.
Let us know what you decide on purchasing. Good luck with what ever you buy I am sure you will enjoy your new mobile.
Regards, Ryland
Oh BTW is you seriously drop your phones a lot I would either insure you new phone or NOT purchase ANY phone that price. If you do purchase a flagship phone buy a case and screen saver plus insurance.
to be frank with you ,wait atleast for two more weeks then get the 14w20,21 batch it seems to be ok
shaf46 said:
to be frank with you ,wait atleast for two more weeks then get the 14w20,21 batch it seems to be ok
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How would one ensure that they have this batch?
donalgodon said:
How would one ensure that they have this batch?
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check the batch number in the micro sd port information tray and get some information on the internet, right now im really fed up with sony im so upset that i wouldn't care anymore :/
Just wait mate don't buy it now
I came from a G2 as well, I'll say get whichever is cheaper. They're both about the same. HTC got better speakers and a big dev base (if that's important to you), Z2 has better camera and the waterproof aspect.
Apart from that, both got great battery life, screens are great, build quality great on both devices. Don't worry about the heat issue, anytime u push a phone it gets warm a bit
PiskopatYazar said:
It overheats if there are so many apps running in the background and when you shoot 4K videos.
Charging takes me over 4 hours I thought my charger was faulty but it wasn't I'm using my old samsung charger it takes around 3 hours.
I bought HTC One m8 for my partner and I'm jealous tbh. But I'm happy with my z2 as well. HTC One m8 feeling is a lot better in hand and camera is a lot faster.
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4hrs to charge?? That sucks..