I need to take my beloved Atrix in for a warranty replacement (dust under camera lens, severe dropped calls, data connection issues, screen unresponsiveness), but i had a couple questions beforehand.
1. I have not installed the OTA 2.3.4, I unlocked bootloader and flashed AURA. Can I SBF to the 4.1.83 and then OTA to the 2.3.4 so that the "UNLOCKED" logo is gone at the boot screen?
2. If i receive a replacement Atrix that has 2.3.4, can I still flash the PUDDING (to unlock the bootloader) and then flash a custom 2.3.4 ROM? Or will this brick my phone?!?
Thanks so much everyone, I know that this may have been posted in other threads, but I looked everywhere and cannot find a clear and concise answer. Thank you.
I'm not sure about some of your questions, but I sbf'd to 2.3.4 last night and the unlocked text is gone. Not sure if it's safe to sbf to earlier builds.
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Ok here is the case.
I have couple of AT&T atrix here which belongs to friends. I am going to point down what is the current situation so someone out there help / warn me before I do something stupid.
1. I had unlocked the bootloader, rooted the phones and enabled sideloading on 1.8.3
2. OTA was flashed on these phones as soon as it was made available.
3. I received no warning or failed update. The update was successful and phone booted fine into gingerbread.
4. New bootloader was flashed hence I lost the Unlocked bootloader.
Now this is what I plan to do.
1 Use pudding to unlock the bootloader again.
2. I have seen people who get soft brick when they do this on OTA which is recoverable.
Now my question is, can i directly flash the new 2.3.4 SBF which is pudding + root + unlocked bootloader using RSD?
If yes, can I install latest CWM after I flash the new combined SBF using RSD. I know I can recover from soft brick by unlocking bootloader and flashing the SBF again as it goes back to fastboot after softbrick ( i recovered mine from soft brick couple of days back ). Just wanted some clarification regarding this particular situation.
I am not exactly a noob, but there are conflicting responses when I tried to search this. Thanks in advance,
Also can someone tell me where to check the status of efuse on atrix (location, original value and modified value to expect in case of blown fuse). All phones are rooted. So wanted to check if I have blown any fuse or not.
So I started with an official 2.2.2 firmware from Bell. I think this thread might serve 2 purposes, because I had a really hard time figure out all the steps from start to finish as they were in separate threads. So if someone starts off with stock 2.2.2 and wants to get a custom rom, that's the way I manged to do it. Second purpose of this post is for me to find out how I could return my Bell Atrix to stock OTA and what it would imply. Thanks a lot in advance for your inputs.
-I rooted with SuperOneClick
-Unlocked BL with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
-Installed Tenfar's CWM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138541
-Verified which kernel to use D00 or 1100 and dled it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169409
-Then I flashed Alien Rom Build #2 with Tenfar's CWM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186537&highlight=bell
-Then tried to do the D00 Intl kernel in CWM without rebooting, that didn't work ... so I rebooted and went directly to fastboot and installed the kernel as the instructions say in the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169409
-Then booted for the first time, rebooted, and flashed the ninja theme in CWM
What I want to know is if ever I wanted to go back to stock with the new GB OTA from Bell 0.37.23 what would it imply:
-Rooting is still available, but is unlocking ? and could I still unlock the APN menu.
-My BL would get relocked? What would that imply for future updates.
Also if I decided to take that route; I would
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15975211#post15975211
2) Download the new OTA and install
3) Root and unlock...
Thank you for you input,
NiK
You just install the gobstopper. There is no new bell gb OTA from my understanding. Only the new ATT gb ota.
The gobstopper puts you on full 2.2.2.
Thought the latest OTA was for GB .. oh well ... what you be the implications of going back to stock ... would that affect the unlocked BL, would it relock it, would it make future mods more difficult of impossible .... I come from iPhone world so updating a firmware would have a lot of future implications ...
yes gobstopper would put you back to stock 2.2.2 and re-lock the bootloader...so yes you would have a boring ass atrix again...the only time (personal opinion) i would ever revert back is for warranty purposes. This way they can't tell you f'ed with your phone.
and yes it would make future mods impossible....basically all the mods and stuff out there right now would be useless to you...in fact if you did want to mod your phone you would only be able to deodex and theme..with a few other tiny modifications...that aren't even supported by the dev' who made them anymore because everyone is using GB now lol...i'm not sure why anyone would want to go back except for warranty purposes or they are selling to someone who is new to android and doesn't want to hack their phone...
/rant
cheers bro =)
J-Roc said:
yes gobstopper would put you back to stock 2.2.2 and re-lock the bootloader...so yes you would have a boring ass atrix again...the only time (personal opinion) i would ever revert back is for warranty purposes. This way they can't tell you f'ed with your phone.
and yes it would make future mods impossible....basically all the mods and stuff out there right now would be useless to you...in fact if you did want to mod your phone you would only be able to deodex and theme..with a few other tiny modifications...that aren't even supported by the dev' who made them anymore because everyone is using GB now lol...i'm not sure why anyone would want to go back except for warranty purposes or they are selling to someone who is new to android and doesn't want to hack their phone...
/rant
cheers bro =)
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Hi,
That is incorrect. Once you are unlocked, you are always unlocked. You either have a bootloader that knows what unlocked means or you don't.
In this case you can always go back to IHOP to be unlocked. There is no permanent relock.
The point in going back to stock is to get OTA updates from Bell, not warranty claims because if you can get back to stock you don't need a warranty. It's when your phone is locked up that you want to use your warranty and by then it's too late.
Cheers!
Ok so once the bootloader has been unlocked, whatever happens I can't relock it even when applying an OTA upgrade that upgrades the bootloader ? That sounds like the exact opposite of what happened with iPhones or PS3s or whatever electronics that needed to be jailbroken, unlocked of whatever.
NiKTaMeR said:
Ok so once the bootloader has been unlocked, whatever happens I can't relock it even when applying an OTA upgrade that upgrades the bootloader ? That sounds like the exact opposite of what happened with iPhones or PS3s or whatever electronics that needed to be jailbroken, unlocked of whatever.
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A fuse gets blown in this case. oem lock does nothing.
What you can do is install a bootloader that doesn't know about unlocking or that that paticular fuse means it's supposed to be unlocked, So the unlocked message doesn't show up on the main screen during boot and fastboot no longer works for signed partitions. However, restoring the unlocked bootloader restores the unlock by checking the blown fuse, and oem unlock no longer has to be done.
Cheers!
Thanks a lot to everyone for your replies.
P.S NF I'm waiting to try your gobstopper 2.3.4 stupid slow upload speeds
NiKTaMeR said:
Thanks a lot to everyone for your replies.
P.S NF I'm waiting to try your gobstopper 2.3.4 stupid slow upload speeds
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It's done if you were waiting.
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Hello to all
I receive an atrix 4g locked to at&t usa. I unlocked with a code, after i unlock the BL.
I install cwm and romracer and flash CM7(2.3.6) rom from sd.
After i flash Darkside(2.3.5) rom. Now i want to return back to stock.
I have some small problems, the soft keys light is very dimm and the wifi signal is very low compared with my previous iphone 4.
The question is: is it safe to flash 4.5.91(2.3.4) stock sbf with rsd?
I know that the other option are fruitcakes but i just want to know if i can flash this vers with rsd.
System version: 4.5.133.mb860.att.en.us
Android version 2.3.5
Baseband: N_01.77.30P
I read many threads about but i'm still in the "fog". I know that the answer is somewere on the forum and sorry for opening another thread.
Thanks a lot for understanding.
While it's not recommended to use RSDlite after unlocking the bootloader, it will work as long as you only use the 4.5.91 GB2.3.4 SBF (signed). I have done it twice but at my own risk of course.
If you need to return to stock you can flash the fruitcakes, which are stock files. This method is definitely recommended over sbf.
M_Alin said:
Hello to all
I receive an atrix 4g locked to at&t usa. I unlocked with a code, after i unlock the BL.
I install cwm and romracer and flash CM7(2.3.6) rom from sd.
After i flash Darkside(2.3.5) rom. Now i want to return back to stock.
I have some small problems, the soft keys light is very dimm and the wifi signal is very low compared with my previous iphone 4.
The question is: is it safe to flash 4.5.91(2.3.4) stock sbf with rsd?
I know that the other option are fruitcakes but i just want to know if i can flash this vers with rsd.
System version: 4.5.133.mb860.att.en.us
Android version 2.3.5
Baseband: N_01.77.30P
I read many threads about but i'm still in the "fog". I know that the answer is somewere on the forum and sorry for opening another thread.
Thanks a lot for understanding.
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live4nyy said:
While it's not recommended to use RSDlite after unlocking the bootloader, it will work as long as you only use the 4.5.91 GB2.3.4 SBF (signed). I have done it twice but at my own risk of course.
If you need to return to stock you can flash the fruitcakes, which are stock files. This method is definitely recommended over sbf.
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Will flashing the SBF via RSD re-lock the bootloader? I need to take my phone in for a warranty swap (hardware issue) and don't want them to know I unlocked the phone.
It will hide the "unlocked" text during boot but it does not actually re-lock the bootloader. But when you think about it, even though they never intended for the end user to unlock the phone (hence the encrypted/locked bootloader), they still put the warning in if/when anyone unlocked the bootloader. It's there for a reason but I doubt they will find out.
ItsLunchBOX said:
Will flashing the SBF via RSD re-lock the bootloader? I need to take my phone in for a warranty swap (hardware issue) and don't want them to know I unlocked the phone.
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live4nyy said:
It will hide the "unlocked" text during boot but it does not actually re-lock the bootloader. But when you think about it, even though they never intended for the end user to unlock the phone (hence the encrypted/locked bootloader), they still put the warning in if/when anyone unlocked the bootloader. It's there for a reason but I doubt they will find out.
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So yeah I was impatient and tried to flash it without waiting for a reply. It kept failing and then all I would get on my phone was "Failed to boot 4 Starting RSD Protocol".
I ended up having to re-flash pudding, which was an adventure in itself (upgrading RSD, rebooting computer, trying different USB ports & cables before it would finally take). I think I will just take it in tomorrow even with it saying "Unlocked" and see if they will swap it out. I'm having touch screen issues with intermittent dead spots and ghost touches.
Did you try the stock SBF with the same combination of port and cable as you did when you successfully flashed pudding? I've heard those two factors can cause a bad flash in the past. I've read that a back port on the computer is recommended for sufficient power and using the actual OEM cable the phone came with is highly recommended as well.
Oh well, hope you get it swapped out, the people at the AT&T stores (if that's where you got it) usually don't pay no mind to that anyways.
ItsLunchBOX said:
So yeah I was impatient and tried to flash it without waiting for a reply. It kept failing and then all I would get on my phone was "Failed to boot 4 Starting RSD Protocol".
I ended up having to re-flash pudding, which was an adventure in itself (upgrading RSD, rebooting computer, trying different USB ports & cables before it would finally take). I think I will just take it in tomorrow even with it saying "Unlocked" and see if they will swap it out. I'm having touch screen issues with intermittent dead spots and ghost touches.
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Hi,
I do have the same kind of query. I have AT&T Motorola Atrix 4G. I unlocked SIM, unlocked BL, rooted and installed CWM recovery, De-dexed and Webtop over HDMI hacked. I am still on AT&T Stock ROM 2.3.4 / Build # 4.5.91
I am facing random reboot problem while using 3G data service. I want to re-flash Stock 2.3.4 ROM. As per your reply in this thread I can only do this by flashing Fruitcakes as I have unlocked BL ... right? But in this link I am bit confused which file to download and flash amongst 2.3.4 / 2.3.5 att 4.5.133 / ATT 4.5.140 - 2.3.6? Also, after flashing a fruitcake can I still flash a custom ROM later on and at any point of time revert back to stock?
Thanks so much.
live4nyy said:
While it's not recommended to use RSDlite after unlocking the bootloader, it will work as long as you only use the 4.5.91 GB2.3.4 SBF (signed). I have done it twice but at my own risk of course.
If you need to return to stock you can flash the fruitcakes, which are stock files. This method is definitely recommended over sbf.
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If you want to go back to stock, as in the last "Official" build released by Motorola, then you want the 2.3.4 build. And as long as you use the fruitcakes you can go back to a custom rom at any time.
sony108 said:
Hi,
I do have the same kind of query. I have AT&T Motorola Atrix 4G. I unlocked SIM, unlocked BL, rooted and installed CWM recovery, De-dexed and Webtop over HDMI hacked. I am still on AT&T Stock ROM 2.3.4 / Build # 4.5.91
I am facing random reboot problem while using 3G data service. I want to re-flash Stock 2.3.4 ROM. As per your reply in this thread I can only do this by flashing Fruitcakes as I have unlocked BL ... right? But in this link I am bit confused which file to download and flash amongst 2.3.4 / 2.3.5 att 4.5.133 / ATT 4.5.140 - 2.3.6? Also, after flashing a fruitcake can I still flash a custom ROM later on and at any point of time revert back to stock?
Thanks so much.
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Thanks for your early reply ... Just one thing more I wanna ask that if I flash ATT 4.5.140 - 2.3.6 fruitcake, then can I flash ATT 2.3.4 - 4.5.91 over it? Is the brick warning for going back to stock ATT ROM only after having BL unlocked?
Thanks for your help
live4nyy said:
If you want to go back to stock, as in the last "Official" build released by Motorola, then you want the 2.3.4 build. And as long as you use the fruitcakes you can go back to a custom rom at any time.
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Yes, you can flash 2.3.4 fruitcake over a 2.3.6 fruitcake. Just make sure to do the "wipes" (clear data/cache/factory reset/fastboot wipe/etc).
As far as I understand, the fruitcakes will not brick your device, as long as you follow the directions. The risk for bricking applies to using an SBF file and RSDlite.
sony108 said:
Thanks for your early reply ... Just one thing more I wanna ask that if I flash ATT 4.5.140 - 2.3.6 fruitcake, then can I flash ATT 2.3.4 - 4.5.91 over it? Is the brick warning for going back to stock ATT ROM only after having BL unlocked?
Thanks for your help
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Hi guys! I have a couple of questions. I just updated my Atrix to 2.3.4 by OTA update, so i created a brickable device, haven't i? I would like to know what i have to do know, i want to root the phone and unlock the bootloader to install custom roms, but im afraid to brick my new phone. I have read a lot the past two hours, but im still not sure about what to do now in order to unlock the phone and achieve root.
Also, the device will brick if i try to flash any 2.2 rom, no matter how i flash it (via CWM for example)? Or only if i flash a 1.8.3 SBF via RSDLite? Are there any other files that i have to avoid if i don't want to brick my phone?
Thanks for helping me out guys!
djluis48 said:
Hi guys! I have a couple of questions. I just updated my Atrix to 2.3.4 by OTA update, so i created a brickable device, haven't i? I would like to know what i have to do know, i want to root the phone and unlock the bootloader to install custom roms, but im afraid to brick my new phone. I have read a lot the past two hours, but im still not sure about what to do now in order to unlock the phone and achieve root.
Also, the device will brick if i try to flash any 2.2 rom, no matter how i flash it (via CWM for example)? Or only if i flash a 1.8.3 SBF via RSDLite? Are there any other files that i have to avoid if i don't want to brick my phone?
Thanks for helping me out guys!
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After you unlock the boot loader, do not flash any sbf prior to 4.5.91. In fact after you unlock the boot loader, there's no need to flash a sbf at all, b/c you can just flash a fruitcake to return to stock.
As far as picking a ROM, it doesn't really matter... any ROM that requires a unlocked boot loader (which they all do), it is at least based off of gingerbread Android 2.3.4+
Use the pudding unlock sbf to unlock your boot loader. Most rooms include root. See my sig for further info.
Sent from my CM7 Atrix 4G
Swiftks said:
After you unlock the boot loader, do not flash any sbf prior to 4.5.91. In fact after you unlock the boot loader, there's no need to flash a sbf at all, b/c you can just flash a fruitcake to return to stock.
As far as picking a ROM, it doesn't really matter... any ROM that requires a unlocked boot loader (which they all do), it is at least based off of gingerbread Android 2.3.4+
Use the pudding unlock sbf to unlock your boot loader. Most rooms include root. See my sig for further info.
Sent from my CM7 Atrix 4G
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Thanks for your fast response! So, if i use the auto-unlocker on that thread, it wont brick my device right? Thanks for pointing me that, it seems very usefull. Now, this leads me to the next question, i also have to SIM Unlock my Atrix, because its locked to ATT and im trying to use it outside the US, so i need to SIM unlock it, i have seen several threads of users reporting problems SIM unlocking the phone, should i wait for the SIM Unlock code before proceding to unlock the bootloader? I have already ordered one, the guys should email it any time now, it will take less than 24hrs, and no less than 2hrs (which have already passed).
Thanks for your answers guys!
EDIT: Couldn't resist, unlocked the bootloader and achieved root. It was super easy with the automated batch. I hope i don't run into problems when i try to SIM unlock the phone lol
Hey guys,
I am experiencing finger print issues with my atrix and would like to send it in for repair the problem is my atrix is unlocked with the latest cm7 weekly build.
I have been reading on forums" Just install stock version" is it advisable? Which steps should I follow?
Faizan1 said:
Hey guys,
I am experiencing finger print issues with my atrix and would like to send it in for repair the problem is my atrix is unlocked with the latest cm7 weekly build.
I have been reading on forums" Just install stock version" is it advisable? Which steps should I follow?
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Full wipe and flash a fruitcake from here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
Thanks for the quick answer
I have 2 further questions
1. On boot will it show unlocked on the side?(boot loader unlocked)
2. Does this relock the bootloader? ex: Can i not reinstall cm7 after i get it back from warranty work?
1. Yes (only an SBF will "hide" the unlock text)
2. No
For the warranty work you will just have to cross your fingers that they will miss it or overlook it. And I think you will just need to re-root it after flashing a fruitcake (maybe?).
Faizan1 said:
Thanks for the quick answer
I have 2 further questions
1. On boot will it show unlocked on the side?(boot loader unlocked)
2. Does this relock the bootloader? ex: Can i not reinstall cm7 after i get it back from warranty work?
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Fruitcake is kind of obvious and leaves the "unlocked" message. I would SBF if the phone is broken anyway. I just recieved a perfectly new Atrix after sending in my broken one with a flashed 2.3.6 SBF, so the chances are good. Make sure to clear all necessary partitions first! I forget exactly which, but there is ample documentation in development/Q&A. I
I had SBF'd and sucesss the Unlocked word has disappeared.
I flashed and the phone works perfectly(other than finger print original issue)and hope it wont be a problem with installing cm7 later. can anyone advise me on that?
" 1FF-olympus-user-2.3.6-4.5.141-111212-release-keys-signed-ATT-US-GAS_NA_OLPSGBATTSPE_P012.sbf
any news did they fix your atrix for ya without to much problems?
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I received the phone today and boom everything works they didnt cause any issue with the bootloader being unlocked.
I had however sbf'd the phone so the unlocked word was hidden.
Now time to start messing with the phone again.
Hell I took the risk and completely bricked my phone by flashing the 1.8.3 sbf on it. The fail to boot message is pretty common among Atrixes. They didn't ask any questions and gave me a new one at the warranty ATT place. Just had to get there, in and out with a new atrix in 20 minutes. Too bad its acting up again, and I'm out of warranty
Looks like I'll be sending my Atrix to ATT soon. I will just flash a fruit cake and I won't even bother with the unlock text and hope for the best.