Hi All,
My new phone comes next Tuesday... Yippee!!
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Anyway I have read all I can on rooting the beastie and now I have a question about the SD card...
What size SD card is ample enough for any apps that I may need 8GB, 16GB, 32GB..?
I know this is dependent on how many apps I want but generally what's the norm?
I have looked in to backing up using titanium backup and can follow the partitioning exercise using Gparted (have already done this on a HTC Desire).
How much EXT4 am I likely to need in total?
Are there other apps that use the EXT4 on the SD card?
Does App2SD use the FAT32 partition or the EXT4?
Thanks in advance
JTB
Samsung Galaxy SII, Soooooon!!!
Okay so you'll get
2GB internal PHONE memory
16GB internal SD storage
Apps will be installed to the phone's memory. (from which about 1.2 gb is left due to system software)
Android's standard A2SD does save you some memory, but meh not too much if you ask me. So that external SD you're buying is seriously just an addon for lets say Music and movies.
Because you can store a lot on the internal 16 gigs (which has only about 13-14 gigs available)
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I seem to have trouble grasping the concept of Internal and external SD memory.
I purchased a 16GB microSD card with the hopes that I can move most of my apps to that card but when I use app2sd I always get the "Failed to move application, not enough memory" error.
When I check the free space it shows more than 13GB on both the internal memory and also on the microSD card.
Since my gtablet has 16GB of "internal" storage already, what's microSD card good for?
Shouldn't I be able to move apps to either internal or external SD storage or am I just not understanding how this all works?
Can someone explain to me in Layman's terms what I need to do?
Thanks !!
PS: I just now accidentally reformatted my internal SD card so I will have to start from scratch anyways ;-)
Frogbone said:
I seem to have trouble grasping the concept of Internal and external SD memory.
I purchased a 16GB microSD card with the hopes that I can move most of my apps to that card but when I use app2sd I always get the "Failed to move application, not enough memory" error.
When I check the free space it shows more than 13GB on both the internal memory and also on the microSD card.
Since my gtablet has 16GB of "internal" storage already, what's microSD card good for?
Shouldn't I be able to move apps to either internal or external SD storage or am I just not understanding how this all works?
Can someone explain to me in Layman's terms what I need to do?
Thanks !!
PS: I just now accidentally reformatted my internal SD card so I will have to start from scratch anyways ;-)
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From what I understand, app2sd functionality is built into Froyo & beyond. No need for a separate app.
In laymans terms, your 16GB internal sd is split in 2, 2GB for apps & 14 gb for data.I have 88 apps installed & it is only using 492MB of the 2GB. Apps install to the 2GB area, but the (and the system) use the 14 GB data area for storage. You can also use this space for dat/files storage as well.
The external microsd slot is generally used by you for data storage. You can use it for what ever you like. I use mine to store copies of different roms/nvflash, movies/video/pictures & music transferred from the PC.
hi everyone. i would like to you if i can change the internal memory of the I5500 samsung.
i have only 187 mega, i need more space. i don't know why but android don't consider my sd card as the internal memory.
if i move my apps to the sd card i still need more space.
do you know some trick to change the size of the memory ?
thank you very much
Uninstall some pre-installed apps
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cause your internal memory it's not the same as the SD card for android.
if you want more space, deleting stock apps that you won't use can give you back some Mb... more space only 2.2+ with moving apps to SD
or u can use app2sd or s2e, that use a partition of the sd card like internal memory.
For example I have 4gb sd card, that has 1gb ext4 (it is used for internal memory) and 3gb fat (that it's used for files and data)
But for do this u can have a cooked rom like cyano or mad-rom
Istur said:
or u can use app2sd or s2e, that use a partition of the sd card like internal memory.
For example I have 4gb sd card, that has 1gb ext4 (it is used for internal memory) and 3gb fat (that it's used for files and data)
But for do this u can have a cooked rom like cyano or mad-rom
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How can i do that???
Ok so far Ive found the mod to swap the internal and external sd,
The ideal mod for me is to merge all the 16gb internal into one partition and mount my sd card as a normal sd instead of external sd.
If anyone knows of the mod to do it the way ideal for me please link me. If you are a dev and like this idea would you take the challenge to make this happen? I will gladly beta test as long as a fastboot is available.
You want volume management on a phone?
Just get a big honking SD card. I have a SanDisk 64GB sdxc.
The 128GB cards will probably be available by October.
That said, you can probably get LVM working under Android, but you'll only be able to work with it from the phone itself (no browsing from a PC or putting stuff on the microSD directly w/o totally breaking the logical volume).
You can also format the SD space as ext3, then set up /etc/fstab to mount the external SD on a folder on the internal SD eg, /mnt/sdcard/Music Library. You won't be able to read/write that space from Microsoft (no, e2fsd won't do it), but any other OS can browse it like any other disk drive. Also, the drives will still appear separate from outside the phone.
the ext3 sounds nice but I like my idea better, my idea is pretty much the way samsung/htc/lg formats their storage, one is phone storage, other is sd, not the phone, sd (other internal) and extended sd(actual sd card)
and sorry for some confusion for anyone I meant Extended sd not external, kinda a noob in here coming from a sammy prepaid android.
Iirc in ICS the internal memory is counted as one part. So the 4gb and 8gb will be 12gb or whatever. Android 2.3 and below use the partitioned method.
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Edit; therefore wait till ICS comes out
Hi guys I am new to android and I got myself a Micromax A110 running on android ics with 2 gb of internal SD card memory...
As you guys can figure, the internal memory just isn't enough for installing heavy games and storing and downloading large videos and music, so I added a 32 gb external micro SD card.. the card shows in my file manager and its contents are accessible, most apps like ttpod, ttorrent, vlc, chrome etc don't detect my external card. They only access the contents of my internal SD card, download to it.. I can't set the default directory to the external card...
When I installed nfs most wanted to my phone, it asked me to free up data in my SD card or insert another one as there was no space left due to obvious reasons of my internal SD card being filled with other apps.. I uninstalled and reinstalled it after setting the default storage location to the external storage... I found that the game installed in the internal storage this time and on startup, it gave the same message..
Is it a common problem or a limitation to the OS? Is there a work around for this? If so how? Does my phone needs to be rooted for the purpose? Please help as the problem is getting annoying.. my external card is lying almost empty...
Thanks in advance,
Extremely sorry for the long post...
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It's because Google made the stupid decision, starting with Honeycomb (which is why the Motorola Xoom, the first Honeycomb device needed an update to enable use of it's MicroSD card slot) to merge the /data/ and /sdcard/ partitions. What that means is that the SD card becomes a virtual space (a folder, in fact) located in the same place where all your apps are stored. Why is it stupid? If you have a phone that actually has a MicroSD card slot, like yours or the Galaxy S III, the MicroSD card becomes a different "folder" (something like /sdext/, which stands for either extension or external). Only apps that specifically are programmed to look for that mount point/folder will be able to use it. Most music/video/picture players/viewers can, because it makes sense to automatically program to do that. But with large games, like you said, NFS Most Wanted (which I also have), it sucks because the game is like 2GB.
My Galaxy S3 has 16GB internal and a 32GB card. I'm forced to use the internal storage only for large games because they don't see the memory card. It sucks. The good thing about merging /data/ and /sdcard/ is that it simplifies things, like on the iPhone where your space is your space, no matter how you use it. It used to be that you had like 1GB or 2GB for apps (the APK files only, not the files that games download for example) (which the HTC One X does, but still only uses internal storage because there's no card slot), and the rest went to your MicroSD card slot. Now it's all to internal storage because your internal storage IS your MicroSD card slot at system level.
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It's because Google made the stupid decision, starting with Honeycomb (which is why the Motorola Xoom, the first Honeycomb device needed an update to enable use of it's MicroSD card slot) to merge the /data/ and /sdcard/ partitions. What that means is that the SD card becomes a virtual space (a folder, in fact) located in the same place where all your apps are stored. Why is it stupid? If you have a phone that actually has a MicroSD card slot, like yours or the Galaxy S III, the MicroSD card becomes a different "folder" (something like /sdext/, which stands for either extension or external). Only apps that specifically are programmed to look for that mount point/folder will be able to use it. Most music/video/picture players/viewers can, because it makes sense to automatically program to do that. But with large games, like you said, NFS Most Wanted (which I also have), it sucks because the game is like 2GB.
My Galaxy S3 has 16GB internal and a 32GB card. I'm forced to use the internal storage only for large games because they don't see the memory card. It sucks. The good thing about merging /data/ and /sdcard/ is that it simplifies things, like on the iPhone where your space is your space, no matter how you use it. It used to be that you had like 1GB or 2GB for apps (the APK files only, not the files that games download for example) (which the HTC One X does, but still only uses internal storage because there's no card slot), and the rest went to your MicroSD card slot. Now it's all to internal storage because your internal storage IS your MicroSD card slot at system level.
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Hey man! Thanks for the reply....
Can you tell me how to work out a solution for this?
Is directory bind or fstab file hack the only solution?
Is it possible to overcome this without root?
And some apps do detect my Micro SD card... It is in the directory mnt/sdcard2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019921
Hello experts,
I have a question regarding my phone's internal memory. My new android 4.2.1 phone has 32GB of phone storage, but only 1.5 gigabytes of that is allocated to the "internal storage" partition for app installations etc. The rest is used as an internal SD card for data storage. I also have an actual SD Card of 32GB.
I find the 1.5GB of internal storage a little bit too low and I fear to run out of memory in a few months of intensive use. As I have a large external SD card it is a bit useless for me to also have a huge internal SD card partition and I'd rather add some of that to the 1.5GB of internal storage for apps.
I have googled for quite some time now, but I can only find threads of people trying to extend their internal storage by partitioning an external SD card. This is NOT the same as my problem as my phone storage is large enough but just not properly allocated in my view.
So my question is as follows: is it possible to add a few GB's from my phone storage to my internal storage?
Thanks in advance!
Sander
Hi, been looking for the same thing for my note 10.1
So far best info in,
galaxy s2 original android development,
Aug 31
"Guild -enlarge datafs partition and get rid of internal sd (ums)"
Has a link to "pit magic"
Good luck and let us all know the results, it's a bit above me I think....
Thanks
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