Hey everyone!
I'm new to the thunderbolt and love flashing roms. I used to use the nexus one and just curious what roms,radios, and kernels everyone uses? I'm a big fan of cm7 but wanted to hear everyone's take on what they like/dislike about their current ROM they are using.
Thanks to all who reply to this thread.
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shockaholick said:
Hey everyone!
I'm new to the thunderbolt and love flashing roms. I used to use the nexus one and just curious what roms,radios, and kernels everyone uses? I'm a big fan of cm7 but wanted to hear everyone's take on what they like/dislike about their current ROM they are using.
Thanks to all who reply to this thread.
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It's all in my sig. I've run Chingy's ROMs on my devices for a couple years now because they aren't pimped out, overworked, quirky, experimental ROMs. He strips out heaps of totally useless garbage, optimizes them in all the functional ways every other dev does, provides excellent mods, and bakes in the best kernels. His ROMs aren't FrankenROM projects like Synergy, and they aren't attempting to bend reality like uberBAMF. They're based on the most recent RUUs and they simply work, which is what matters most to me. I'm the kind of guy who'll wipe a ROM if just one thing I use a lot doesn't work right.
That sounds worth a try....can u direct me to that ROM? Also, is it worth to do a2sd with the chingy ROM? Thank you for the input...I like cm7 but I like effiencey. Thanks for your input...look forward to hearing your next reply...
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shockaholick said:
That sounds worth a try....can u direct me to that ROM? Also, is it worth to do a2sd with the chingy ROM? Thank you for the input...I like cm7 but I like effiencey. Thanks for your input...look forward to hearing your next reply...
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I've always thought App2SD was kind of pointless unless you had a need too. If anything, it's more risky because your SDcard can become corrupted a number of ways and having apps out there puts them at risk. Chingy's ROMs can be found at themikmik.com. I've NEVER been a fan of AOSP primarily because of CM7. I've run 5 versions on my dInc and all of them have been unstable and quirky. My girlfriend uses it now and likes CM7, but it's a constant battle to keep it stable and running the way it should. The 2 versions I've tried on my Tbolt either had functionality problems or rebooted. I will not tolerate a ROM that reboots if there's any alternative out there that doesn't.
Thanks again for your input...soooo everything that works the way it should?4g..Bluetooth, Skype, navigation, etc. Also...just download the ROM and flash? And its good to go if I'm coming from the stock thunderbolt? You mentioned everything was baked in.
Thanks again!
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There are a couple of bugs in the leaked RUU on which the roms are based. One, no voice mail notifications (use google voice to work around that). Two, sometimes you cannot answer a phone call, you only get the option to end it. Not sure if there is a fix for that one. Otherwise the ROM (3D) was very stable for me and great battery life.
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Loonatik-
is your entire rom thats in your signature all baked with all the kernals and radios you have listed as well in your signature??
shockaholick said:
Loonatik-
is your entire rom thats in your signature all baked with all the kernals and radios you have listed as well in your signature??
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Radios don't come in a ROM. You need to flash those separately through a different process. Otherwise, pretty much yes. The kernel doesn't come running at those speeds or the voltages I have set. I undervolt mine even more than stock. You can see my voltages in the pics I have uploaded to XDA, as well as the time-in-state.
I've never had the problem with the phone answering that some people talk about. As for Skype, voice mail... I've never had a use for any of it, so I can't tell you about it. I definitely suggest reading the thread for any ROM... just gloss over it and you'll see what issues people have with it pretty quick. None are perfect, but they WAY better than stock.
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Radios don't come in a ROM. You need to flash those separately through a different process. Otherwise, pretty much yes. The kernel doesn't come running at those speeds or the voltages I have set. I undervolt mine even more than stock. You can see my voltages in the pics I have uploaded to XDA, as well as the time-in-state.
I've never had the problem with the phone answering that some people talk about. As for Skype, voice mail... I've never had a use for any of it, so I can't tell you about it. I definitely suggest reading the thread for any ROM... just gloss over it and you'll see what issues people have with it pretty quick. None are perfect, but they WAY better than stock.
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So...I'm about to start flashing the chingy 3d rom...just a few questions if you dont mind answering...I currently have rom manager installed, and I'm using clockwork recovery.
This is the order I think from what I remember to do things..sorry In advance if I sound like a noob. I only flash roms every so often, so I forget some steps...
1. back up on clockword mod backup
2. wipe factory data
3. wipe cache partition
4.flash rom
5.flash radio (optional...where is the radio you are using loonatik? )
6.reboot
??????
also...when I did a back up just now..I get the following...
ClockwordMod Recovery v4.0.1.5
SD Card space free: 2912MB
Backing up boot image...
Backing up recovery image...
backing up system...
backing up data...
backing up .android_secure...
backing up cache...
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext.
Generating md5 sum...
Backup Complete!
The line that worries me is the "No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext."
Should I worry about this?
Again, sorry for the noob questions...
And thank you for continued support and help!
Don't worry about the extension on the SD card. It just means you don't have yours partitioned.
As far as wipe:
Wipe cache
Factory data reset
Advanced...wipe davlik
Mounts and storage...wipe system
Flash the rom
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shockaholick said:
So...I'm about to start flashing the chingy 3d rom...just a few questions if you dont mind answering...I currently have rom manager installed, and I'm using clockwork recovery.
This is the order I think from what I remember to do things..sorry In advance if I sound like a noob. I only flash roms every so often, so I forget some steps...
1. back up on clockword mod backup
2. wipe factory data
3. wipe cache partition
4.flash rom
5.flash radio (optional...where is the radio you are using loonatik? )
6.reboot
??????
also...when I did a back up just now..I get the following...
ClockwordMod Recovery v4.0.1.5
SD Card space free: 2912MB
Backing up boot image...
Backing up recovery image...
backing up system...
backing up data...
backing up .android_secure...
backing up cache...
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext.
Generating md5 sum...
Backup Complete!
The line that worries me is the "No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext."
Should I worry about this?
Again, sorry for the noob questions...
And thank you for continued support and help!
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The SD-ext is nothing to worry about. No need to manually wipe cache as the factory reset/delete user data function does that. It's good to format /system though. You won't be flashing the radio through clockwork, if that's what you were thinking of doing. That must be done through the bootloader. The radio I'm using can be found in my q AND a thread at the top of the Q&A forum, along with flashing instructions. PM me if you have further questions. I'll respond faster.
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Don't worry about the extension on the SD card. It just means you don't have yours partitioned.
As far as wipe:
Wipe cache
Factory data reset
Advanced...wipe davlik
Mounts and storage...wipe system
Flash the rom
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why would it be good to have your sd card partitioned? just curious..and is needed for the chingy 3dROM
shockaholick said:
why would it be good to have your sd card partitioned? just curious..and is needed for the chingy 3dROM
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It's used for partitioning the SDcard to use part of it for the system's native file system. Nothing requires it.
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Quick question, when restoring a Nandroid backup, does it restore the phone exactly as it was when you perform the backup - as in all passwords, programs, settings ect.
I love flashing roms, but sometimes readding all my wifi, passwords, email, forums etc can be a pain.
Thanks!
Marc
Yes it saves everything and restores it back to that previous state with everything intact. Before flashing anything, it's good practice to make a NAND backup; if anything goes wrong you can restore it.
Yes it does. It has for me anyways.
GBeris 2.3.2
And save a copy of a recent backup on your computer somewhere just in case...
Excellent! I've been backing up everytime I've flashed a new rom, but never had to do a restore. Good to know incase I want to do fast swapping of ROMS.
Thanks!
I had this same question but mine is a little different. Say I did a backup while having GSB on here. Then I flashed a different rom. Then I did a restore. Does it switch me back to GSB or just add all my settings to the new rom?
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I had this same question but mine is a little different. Say I did a backup while having GSB on here. Then I flashed a different rom. Then I did a restore. Does it switch me back to GSB or just add all my settings to the new rom?
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Nandroid backup and restore is just like Norton Ghost on a Windows PC. You will get back GSB just as you left it if you Nandroid Restore a backup made while the phone was running GSB, with this caveat:
- the Nandroid backup and restore in Amon's Recovery does not back up the /cache partition, so the first launch will take a while as the Dalvik cache is rebuilt
- Amon's also does not backup or restore the .android_secure folder on your SD card, where the Froyo/GB ROMs install apps when you move them from internal to the SD card. So, if you had apps on SD on GSB, installed a new ROM and formatted the card, the Nandroid Restore (I believe) will not bring those apps back.
Just to add to what doogald said, ROM Manager with ClockWork Mod Recovery (it launches from Amon RA, so you don't have to flash anything and you still can use Amon RA all you want) does backup the Dalvik-Cache and I believe I believe it backs up the .android_secure folder as well.
recoveries
Something to keep in mind is that the amon-ra recovery is stable, and works very well. clockworks recovery works, but something to keep in mind is it sometimes bricks the eris. I don't know why. IF you don't care on way or the other clockwork recovery gets installed with the one click method of rooting.
Nand backups work great. If you like to switch roms a lot. I'd suggest to keep one rom as your goto rom, and remans it with a file manager keep it apha numeric, and no spaces in the filename. when you switch roms take a few seconds to wipe the phone, and then restore. This usually makes it the restore function as it was before things changed.
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IF you don't care on way or the other clockwork recovery gets installed with the one click method of rooting.
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Just in case any new rooters get confused, I think you meant that Amon RA Recovery gets installed with the one click method of rooting.
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Just in case any new rooters get confused, I think you meant that Amon RA Recovery gets installed with the one click method of rooting.
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"New rooters" I just laughed out loud there. Nah, I think everyone that's going to be here is here. Our numbers only get smaller from here.
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"New rooters" I just laughed out loud there. Nah, I think everyone that's going to be here is here. Our numbers only get smaller from here.
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Actually there are new rooters all the time posting questions in general and q&a since they often don't have write access to the development area yet. They often say they just rooted.
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Actually there are new rooters all the time posting questions in general and q&a since they often don't have write access to the development area yet. They often say they just rooted.
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Hmmph. I stand corrected then. Or rather, I sit corrected.
CPCookieMan said:
Hmmph. I stand corrected then. Or rather, I sit corrected.
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LOL! 10 char.....
CPCookieMan said:
"New rooters" I just laughed out loud there. Nah, I think everyone that's going to be here is here. Our numbers only get smaller from here.
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Hahaha i just rooted back in december but didnt start using xda till recently so im still a noob
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CPCookieMan said:
"New rooters" I just laughed out loud there. Nah, I think everyone that's going to be here is here. Our numbers only get smaller from here.
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I'm taking the plunge this week. My phone is still OTA 2.1 baby!
The other thing I will say is that folks should stop *****ing about FCs with the new ROMs. I get them now running all the latest 2.1 apps if I don't power down the phone every night.(Don't know how that compares to rebooting?)
I would make sure you use the amon ra recovery since in my experience its been more stable.
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I just rooted my phone at the end of February and then did my buddy's Eris two nights ago
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Greetings.
I just bought my Thunderbolt the other day and so far I'm loving it more each day. I successfully rooted it and got ROM Manager on it.
I'm confused as to what exactly a ROM is and how to get it working on my phone. I've been reading about a few ROMs that de-bloat the phone and those are the ones that I'm looking to get onto my phone, but I'm rather confused as to how to install them. I've downloaded the Des BAMF one and put it on my phone's SD card and renamed it to "update.zip" and chose the option "Install ROM from SD Card." It then reboots into a different looking theme/skin that appears to be the default. I'm not sure if I did something wrong or not.
Could someone fill me in on how exactly to install a custom ROM on the Thunderbolt?
Any help is appreciated.
Hey.
I am in the exact same boat as you. Just got my tbolt and unlocked it.. And for the longest time.. 5 hours i had no idea how to install the roms.
So from what I did.
I backed up my user app on Titanium back up.
I downloaded the zip file.. and placed it in my SD CARD. Don't put it in any folder. or you could you just have to find it, without changing the name.
So then with Rom Manager, you should backup current ROM
Then you should reboot into Recovery.
First we will wipe the data/factory reset.
wipe the cache partition.
Apply the new rom. To do this select the install zip from sdcard.
The next option would be to select chose zip from sd card.
Then you will select your rom from the sd card.
Once you have selected the rom you will get to the conformation page.
I have a link that can show you step by step.. but i am not over my 10 post to post link outside the site
there is no need to rename to update.zip. if you are properly rooted with s-off all you need to do is choose choose "install rom from sd card" in rom manager. Find the rim you want to install (name doesn't matter) and click it. It will then prompt you with two checkboxes.
1. Will be to make a back up
2. Will be to wipe data and cache.
MAKE A BACKUP. As for wiping data and cache that erases everything from your phone (not things on the sd card) it is recommended to do that because sometimes the phone gets weird and force closes if you don't, but sometimes it works fine.
After clicking ok, it will boot into recovery, go through back up and installing and reboot. First reboot may take awhile but after thar you have your new rom.
Let me know if that answered your question. If it didn't, clarify for me so I can better assist you.
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greg i have a question. when you wipe data and cache.
your sdcard is safe right?. or does the sdcard get wiped as well
MisterDonut said:
greg i have a question. when you wipe data and cache.
your sdcard is safe right?. or does the sdcard get wiped as well
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sdcard will not get wiped.
another thing, if your just flashing a new kernel, or updating a rom, like from bamf 1.2 to 1.3, usually a full wipe is not necessary.
But if your switching roms like from BAMF to CM7 always wipe.
just make sure you read the threads and backup before you change anything.
The easiest and simple method of putting a rom on you phone is thru clockwork. You can access the xda site thru an app on the market, just search for xda. Download the app, open the app and sign in. Find the t-bolt forum and download the desired rom using your phone. Once the rom is downloaded, boot into recovery, select "wipe data/factory reset" , select "wipe cache partition", then select "advanced", select "wipe dalvik cache". I usually do this process twice just to make sure. The select "install zip from sd card", find the folder where you downloaded the rom select that then select the file/rom. Install it.
Thanks alot appreciate the feed back and the community
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Thank you for all the replies everybody. Clarified a lot of things for me.
I forgot to ask something in my original post; what exactly is a kernel and how would I come about installing it on my TB?
I've been reading a lot about them and I am still clueless as to what a kernel does.
Tethers said:
Thank you for all the replies everybody. Clarified a lot of things for me.
I forgot to ask something in my original post; what exactly is a kernel and how would I come about installing it on my TB?
I've been reading a lot about them and I am still clueless as to what a kernel does.
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The kernel controls the power and sped of the phone. You can install it the same way I explained prior. The devs tweak the kernel to get better performance and battery life. Adrynalynes 2.0 is good. Dont worry about quadrant scores/ speeds as they are bs. I am also not a fan of overclocking, just my preference.
Tethers said:
Thank you for all the replies everybody. Clarified a lot of things for me.
I forgot to ask something in my original post; what exactly is a kernel and how would I come about installing it on my TB?
I've been reading a lot about them and I am still clueless as to what a kernel does.
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im not sure exactly, but without getting too technical, it controls your processor speed.
it can make your phone faster, smoother, and more efficient.
if you flash a good rom, i see your on das bamf, it already has a decent kernel.
Tethers said:
Thank you for all the replies everybody. Clarified a lot of things for me.
I forgot to ask something in my original post; what exactly is a kernel and how would I come about installing it on my TB?
I've been reading a lot about them and I am still clueless as to what a kernel does.
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Check out the section on kernels on wikipedia, it does a decent job explaining it. The reason you might want to run a custom kernel is to add support for something that is disabled in the stock kernel config, like extra filesystem support or tunneling or to undervolt the processor to save on battery. More slots can be added so you can change clock speeds, etc.
As a new person to root I have another question that I need help with. After rooting my EVO I somehow did a factory reset and wiped all data from my phone. That gives me around 400mb. After flashing synergy rom and adding a apps I noticed my internal phone storage was 75mb remaining out of 250mb. I have no where near the amount of apps I had before with less space. So my question is, does the ROM file take up internal phone space once flashed? Or am I doing something wrong? Thanks a lot for your help.
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Eros2180 said:
As a new person to root I have another question that I need help with. After rooting my EVO I somehow did a factory reset and wiped all data from my phone. That gives me around 400mb. After flashing synergy rom and adding a apps I noticed my internal phone storage was 75mb remaining out of 250mb. I have no where near the amount of apps I had before with less space. So my question is, does the ROM file take up internal phone space once flashed? Or am I doing something wrong? Thanks a lot for your help.
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On sense ROMs, more files are made in the /data partition, due to the greater amount of lib files and other things created by Sense. When you install one app it makes data in /data/data and /data/dalvik , and sense has many apps so the space used goes straight to hell in a basket. But use a Vanilla Rom, and space should go down a bit...Use disk analyses to see what's using the space.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage&hl=en
Thanks ill try that. I'll start looking for a vanilla ROM. Any particular one to use with 2.3? I just rooted with the revolutionary. Thanks again.
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Eros2180 said:
Thanks ill try that. I'll start looking for a vanilla ROM. Any particular one to use with 2.3? I just rooted with the revolutionary. Thanks again.
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I don't actually know which ROMs are avail for Evo, maybe you can use MIUI/CM7 or the most popular AOSP? If you choose to use Sense, just remove some apps from the /system partition.
along with resetting the phone to "factory defaults", did you wipe cache and dalvik cache 3 times? I used CWM the other day on my phone to install a ROM and forgot to wipe cache also... kept getting "device is low on memory" errors. Wiped cache and dalvik 3 times, installed the ROM again, everything worked perfectly.
Why 3 times? Extreme redundance LOL. Once is enough. Wiped means its wiped doing it two more times is mildly retarded.
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Recovery: Twrp cwm 4
ROM: Synergy rls318 (I want aosp)
I did wipe them before installing the Rom, yes. I just tried to make a backup last night to try some new things and my backup keeps failing now.
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I did wipe them before installing the Rom, yes. I just tried to make a backup last night to try some new things and my backup keeps failing now.
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Could be bad blocks on the MTD/Nand chip? If the block are bad then the ROM might not be restore-able anymore. or the backup could be bad, try another ROM instead.
My SD card was full so that's why the backups failed. I had no idea the files were so big. Now still in search for another Rom. No luck with finding the vanilla Rom.
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not really new to this stuff, but i am when it comes to the note 2.
props to the guys that put CASUAL together, with little effort other than installing the drivers from the samsung website, a few tries and reboots, 3rd go and it only took maybe 3 minutes to do the work for me.
so, now i am looking for a way to debloat the rom that came with my phone, not ready to jump into the custom flashing yet, but i would like to remove a few things i never use that verizon drops into the rom.
from past experience deleting from the /system/app and /data directories caused issues with stability on my htc rezound.
also one other thought, with the lg enlighten, rebooting with /system as RW would bootloop the phone, the rezound didn't mind at all, how does the note 2 react to being RW?
any suggestions to debloating the current running rom are welcome, i have already had some for custom roms, but more input would be ok too.
Get titanium backup and remove those apps.
Then I'd make a backup and when you are ready to custom flash, get cleanrom. From the sounds of it that is what you are looking for.
that's what i had said before, but eventually i would like to flash a modded rom, but right now i am thinking about just debloating this one, for fun.
one thing that concerns me, has anyone flashed a rom the s-pen doesn't work on?
is that built into the mainboard or a rom specific thing?
wondering so i know to be careful of what i flash, love my s-pen lol
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that's what i had said before, but eventually i would like to flash a modded rom, but right now i am thinking about just debloating this one, for fun.
one thing that concerns me, has anyone flashed a rom the s-pen doesn't work on?
is that built into the mainboard or a rom specific thing?
wondering so i know to be careful of what i flash, love my s-pen lol
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The S-pen is Samsung software that only works on Touchwiz (Samsung based Roms also known as TW) framework, said framework has yet to be ported to AOSP and most likely will not be. It is very rare for TW framework to be ported in a way that works on AOSP Roms.
The S-pen will work on all Roms no matter what but the special features, like pushing the button to make a screenshot, will be there on TW Roms but not AOSP Roms. With Vanilla Rootbox you can make the floating dot show up on the screen when using the S-pen and the other Roms have some implementation of that. If you want to replace some of the features on AOSP Roms you should look into getting GMD Spen Control from the market, also Plasma kernel has new S-pen features built in. It still won't be exactly the same as running a TW ROM but is close enough for me.
All of the custom TW Roms will have full S-pen support just like the stock ROM and in some cases have a little bit extra.
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shangrila500 said:
The S-pen is Samsung software that only works on Touchwiz (Samsung based Roms also known as TW) framework, said framework has yet to be ported to AOSP and most likely will not be. It is very rare for TW framework to be ported in a way that works on AOSP Roms.
The S-pen will work on all Roms no matter what but the special features, like pushing the button to make a screenshot, will be there on TW Roms but not AOSP Roms. With Vanilla Rootbox you can make the floating dot show up on the screen when using the S-pen and the other Roms have some implementation of that. If you want to replace some of the features on AOSP Roms you should look into getting GMD Spen Control from the market, also Plasma kernel has new S-pen features built in. It still won't be exactly the same as running a TW ROM but is close enough for me.
All of the custom TW Roms will have full S-pen support just like the stock ROM and in some cases have a little bit extra.
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So is flashing a rom done from the sdcard as normal or is it different in any way from a standard flash, new to twrp.
Yup. Just put it on your SD card and flash. Wipe everything but your external card before you flash. lots more to it but that's the cliffnotes version.
ILMF said:
Yup. Just put it on your SD card and flash. Wipe everything but your external card before you flash. lots more to it but that's the cliffnotes version.
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You don't have to and you typically don't want to wipe your internal SD memory to flash a rom. From TWRP recovery you should do a Factory rest (which wipes data but not internal SD memory, the cache and the Dalvik cache). After flashing you should wipe cache and Dalvik cache again but not wipe data. To do that go into the Advanced wipe area to only wipe those 2 and not data again.
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universexda said:
You don't have to and you typically don't want to wipe your internal SD memory to flash a rom. From recovery you want to write cache and dalvek cache before (and optionally after) flashing but that's it.
Ridin' a Note 2 blast
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No, you want to wipe your data in the internal SD, wiping cache and dalvik cache is a dirty flash and is only acceptable under certain conditions.
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No, you want to wipe your data in the internal SD, wiping cache and dalvik cache is a dirty flash and is only acceptable under certain conditions.
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I corrected my post that yes you also want to wipe data but only from recovery.
What you don't want to do is use a file manager and delete data that way from internal memory. Nor do you normally want to reformat any internal or external memory from recovery.
Ridin' a Note 2 blast
ok so quick once over, same as the rez, but i only need to do a factory reset and wipe system, caches and flash?
so i can keep internal storage intact no issue?
what about boot?
slightly different from the rez.
just another awesome thing i found for this phone, wondering how well it works and if i could use it to update twrp or maybe even revert to my flashaholic ways with a simple tap and go.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.s0up.goomanager
btw, twrp is the most awesome recovery i have ever used, along with titanium backup, which i have never used, i now have a debloated stock rom backed up.
i haven't been this thrilled since i achieved s-off on my rez.
universexda said:
I corrected my post that yes you also want to wipe data but only from recovery.
What you don't want to do is use a file manager and delete data that way from internal memory. Nor do you normally want to reformat any internal or external memory from recovery.
Ridin' a Note 2 blast
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Well I use the second options in TWRP, I can't remember what it is now, under the wipe menu that you have to type yes for that formats the internal memory to get rid of all the BS. It doesn't hurt as long as you know what you are doing. And as long as you only delete old folders that are no longer in use everything will be fine.
TWRP doesn't have any dangerous wipe options at the current moment.
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fallen00sniper said:
ok so quick once over, same as the rez, but i only need to do a factory reset and wipe system, caches and flash?
so i can keep internal storage intact no issue?
what about boot?
slightly different from the rez.
just another awesome thing i found for this phone, wondering how well it works and if i could use it to update twrp or maybe even revert to my flashaholic ways with a simple tap and go.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.s0up.goomanager
btw, twrp is the most awesome recovery i have ever used, along with titanium backup, which i have never used, i now have a debloated stock rom backed up.
i haven't been this thrilled since i achieved s-off on my rez.
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You can use it to update TWRP and download ROMs but I wouldn't flash my Roms from it, you can flash from it but I personally wouldn't. There is also a app named ROM Manager you can flash Roms from but there are a lot of issues when using ROM Manager.
I personally use the Goo Manger app to keep up with my Roms updates.
In TWRP after you click the Wipe button and go to the Wipe sub menu I always click advanced wipe and go in and wipe Data, Cache, Dalvik, and System and then I back out to the Wipe sub menu and click the right hand button, you'll have to type yes for it to work, and that gets rid of all the BS folders and crap so you can start completely fresh. You don't have to do that if you don't want to, I personally like my phone being completely clean when flashing a new ROM.
Yes you can keep internal and boot intact.
All you have to do to go to a new ROM when you boot into TWRP is click Wipe and then slide the little slider in the Wipe sub menu, I believe it says swipe for Factory Reset. That is all you have to do to Clean Flash a ROM.
Something else fun about TWRP is that you can theme it. Here is a TWRP theme collection on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2035234
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fallen00sniper said:
btw, twrp is the most awesome recovery i have ever used, along with titanium backup, which i have never used, i now have a debloated stock rom backed up.
i haven't been this thrilled since i achieved s-off on my rez.
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If you use Titanium to back up apps (which you can do together) and their data before flashing you can restore the apps and data all at once after the flash without having to install each one by one from Google play store. Be sure not to restore system apps or data (no need to back them up either) because it may affect the new rom.
The good part of not reformatting your internal or external memory from TWRP is that your photos, music, etc.will remain after the flash. Even if you choose factory wipe or wipe data in TWRP.
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I used titanium backup root to debloat a little, so I am kind of good for now, but made a nandroid of this rooted, debloated stock rom.
I think I found a twrp update with that goo.im app, but I am sure there are more than 4 roms to choose from, I have seen jedi which seemed like what I would want, stock decked out with features and the multi app does all apps, so I am kind of ready to do my first flash.
From what I get from what both or all of you have told me, swipe to factory reset, wipe system and internal, leave boot and others alone.
I wanted to set twrp to save to my sdcard, but didn't see an option to do so.
And thanks for all the input guys.
fallen00sniper said:
From what I get from what both or all of you have told me, swipe to factory reset, wipe system and internal, leave boot and others alone.
I wanted to set twrp to save to my sdcard, but didn't see an option to do so.
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All you need to do before flashing is the one Factory reset wipe on the first screen of the Wipe area. Just as TWRP advises on that screen. After the flash most go back to the Wipe area then the Advanced area and wipe only cache and Dalvik cache. Your first reboot will take a minute or 2 so be patient.
To save backup to the external card go to the Backup area and at the bottom where it says where it will backup press on it and then you can change the location. It just looks like a label and doesn't look like a button but it is. I would just backup the default checked items. Even that will be 3-4 gigs.
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universexda said:
All you need to do before flashing is the one Factory reset wipe on the first screen of the Wipe area. Just as TWRP advises on that screen. After the flash most go back to the Wipe area then the Advanced area and wipe only cache and Dalvik cache. Your first reboot will take a minute or 2 so be patient.
To save backup to the external card go to the Backup area and at the bottom where it says where it will backup press on it and then you can change the location. It just looks like a label and doesn't look like a button but it is. I would just backup the default checked items. Even that will be 3-4 gigs.
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You should also back up the EFS in your first nandroid just in case you ever lose your IMEI or any of that good stuff. Then store that backup in a safe secure space. You won't have to back up the EFS again after the initial backup as long as you always keep that backup safe.
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ok i think i am ready to try my first flash, i chose jedi since it seemed to appeal to me more with the feature and spen will still work 100%.
thanks again for all of the help,
fallen00sniper said:
ok i think i am ready to try my first flash, i chose jedi since it seemed to appeal to me more with the feature and spen will still work 100%.
thanks again for all of the help,
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Well Spen with work on all the Roms, the only issue is that it doesn't have all the software features on AOSP as it does on TW. It will have all the same features as stock as long as it is a Touchwiz, TW, ROM. Moon ROM, Jedi, CleanRom (both versions), Beans, MeanBean, Goodness, etc. And you can still add a lot of your stock Spen features back with GND Spen Control.
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ok i installed jedi, but mid install at installing voice recorder after modem installation, retaining current modem, it just locked up.
fallen00sniper said:
ok i installed jedi, but mid install at installing voice recorder after modem installation, retaining current modem, it just locked up.
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Probably best to ask about this on the Jedi thread where lots of folks have experience with it. Hope it works out.
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fallen00sniper said:
ok i installed jedi, but mid install at installing voice recorder after modem installation, retaining current modem, it just locked up.
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Can you boot into your OS? Is everything working?
I agree with universexda, you'll get better answers in the Jedi thread.
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Hi all,
This is the first time I've tried installing a custom ROM on my VZW S4 (i545) (MDK firmware. Yes, I held out on the OTA since May). I've got a few thoughts and a couple of questions I was hoping could be addressed. I consider myself familiar with flashing ROM's and whatnot, so I won't need hand-holding steps in answer to my questions.
Some info:
VZW S4
MDK Firmware
Recovery: OUDhs CWM Touch Req0very v1.0.3.5
I haven't taken any OTA since I got the phone back in May. This leads me to believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that I'm on Android 4.2.2?
Current ROM: AOKP Nightly Build for 10/31/2013 (MR2)
Thoughts: Holy hell, this ROM is BLAZING fast. I am missing a few features, but none I use regularly (I don't use any of the TouchWiz "smart" features. Damn battery hogs). I was able to flash this over and install GAPPS without any problems. Loading time is incredible, and I love how clean the interface is.
Questions:
Can anyone help me figure out why I cannot install CM10.2? Not sure if that's because I downloaded the wrong version or something, but after flashing it, the screen stays stuck at the Galaxy S4 logo and doesn't move. Maybe I didn't wait long enough, but it surely didn't move in any reasonably expected time (AOKP, by comparison, loaded probably <1 minute). Any thoughts on why this might be? I really want to try CM10.2, so perhaps I should try a different build?
Another question/concern: I downloaded a few different ROMs last night -- CM10.2, AOKP and st0ckdr0id. AOKP installed fine, CM10.2 froze up, but when I installed st0ckdr0id (after wiping out, of course), I got what I think is referred to as a kernel panic. The message was similar to "This phone has software installed on it that Verizon Wireless has determined to be unsafe. Please power off the phone and take to the nearest Verizon Wireless store for help". In the top-left corner, it had in bold RED letters "Kernel secure: FAIL" (or similar wording). I fixed this by booting back into recovery, wiping out, and then installing AOKP again. Can anyone help me understand why this happened?
Why is only ~10GB of space still available when I -thought- I wiped out everything?
What I'm really searching for is an AOSP ROM that is very clean and light, but has SOME of the TouchWiz features. Any recommendations?
My phone only shows me as having a 3G connection, where normally I have 4G LTE. Anything I can do to fix this? Is this an issue with the ROM not detecting the right kind of radio? Bug report, perhaps?
I can't mount my external_sd in my CWM anymore. Yes, I used to be able to do it at one point, because I've done an external nandroid backup to it from within CWM in the past (as of October 29th, if the date on the backups is correct). I've read in other Google searches that it has something to do with the formatting of the SD card, but I haven't removed that SD card from my phone in a few months to have adjusted anything to do with formatting. I plugged the memory card into my Linux laptop this morning while diagnosing this and got an error about an unknown exfat partition. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Stupid question: Is there a way to -completely- wipe my internal SD card clean of all my current files? I know when I "wipe" /data I can still see all of my files from the previous installation, and I'm not ballsy enough to wipe /sdcard. I guess the question that then coincides with this is if I were able to completely wipe the phone, I assume that would wipe the recovery as well?
Sorry for some of the novice questions -- I have no problem messing with my old TF300T tablet (because NVFlash will save the day), but this is my only phone, only line of communication and SOLE way for me to answer calls for work (24/7 rotating on-call), so it is VERY important to me to ask questions and not go down for more than 1 hour.
Thanks for all help guys, its much appreciated. I hope to be able to test ROMs regularly and maybe start posting video reviews or something, who knows?
Thanks,
Opethfan89
opethfan89 said:
Hi all,
This is the first time I've tried installing a custom ROM on my VZW S4 (i545) (MDK firmware. Yes, I held out on the OTA since May). I've got a few thoughts and a couple of questions I was hoping could be addressed. I consider myself familiar with flashing ROM's and whatnot, so I won't need hand-holding steps in answer to my questions.
Some info:
VZW S4
MDK Firmware
Recovery: OUDhs CWM Touch Req0very v1.0.3.5
I haven't taken any OTA since I got the phone back in May. This leads me to believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that I'm on Android 4.2.2?
Current ROM: AOKP Nightly Build for 10/31/2013 (MR2)
Thoughts: Holy hell, this ROM is BLAZING fast. I am missing a few features, but none I use regularly (I don't use any of the TouchWiz "smart" features. Damn battery hogs). I was able to flash this over and install GAPPS without any problems. Loading time is incredible, and I love how clean the interface is.
Questions:
Can anyone help me figure out why I cannot install CM10.2? Not sure if that's because I downloaded the wrong version or something, but after flashing it, the screen stays stuck at the Galaxy S4 logo and doesn't move. Maybe I didn't wait long enough, but it surely didn't move in any reasonably expected time (AOKP, by comparison, loaded probably <1 minute). Any thoughts on why this might be? I really want to try CM10.2, so perhaps I should try a different build?
Another question/concern: I downloaded a few different ROMs last night -- CM10.2, AOKP and st0ckdr0id. AOKP installed fine, CM10.2 froze up, but when I installed st0ckdr0id (after wiping out, of course), I got what I think is referred to as a kernel panic. The message was similar to "This phone has software installed on it that Verizon Wireless has determined to be unsafe. Please power off the phone and take to the nearest Verizon Wireless store for help". In the top-left corner, it had in bold RED letters "Kernel secure: FAIL" (or similar wording). I fixed this by booting back into recovery, wiping out, and then installing AOKP again. Can anyone help me understand why this happened?
Why is only ~10GB of space still available when I -thought- I wiped out everything?
What I'm really searching for is an AOSP ROM that is very clean and light, but has SOME of the TouchWiz features. Any recommendations?
My phone only shows me as having a 3G connection, where normally I have 4G LTE. Anything I can do to fix this? Is this an issue with the ROM not detecting the right kind of radio? Bug report, perhaps?
I can't mount my external_sd in my CWM anymore. Yes, I used to be able to do it at one point, because I've done an external nandroid backup to it from within CWM in the past (as of October 29th, if the date on the backups is correct). I've read in other Google searches that it has something to do with the formatting of the SD card, but I haven't removed that SD card from my phone in a few months to have adjusted anything to do with formatting. I plugged the memory card into my Linux laptop this morning while diagnosing this and got an error about an unknown exfat partition. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Stupid question: Is there a way to -completely- wipe my internal SD card clean of all my current files? I know when I "wipe" /data I can still see all of my files from the previous installation, and I'm not ballsy enough to wipe /sdcard. I guess the question that then coincides with this is if I were able to completely wipe the phone, I assume that would wipe the recovery as well?
Sorry for some of the novice questions -- I have no problem messing with my old TF300T tablet (because NVFlash will save the day), but this is my only phone, only line of communication and SOLE way for me to answer calls for work (24/7 rotating on-call), so it is VERY important to me to ask questions and not go down for more than 1 hour.
Thanks for all help guys, its much appreciated. I hope to be able to test ROMs regularly and maybe start posting video reviews or something, who knows?
Thanks,
Opethfan89
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Wow that's a lot. Let's see if we can get you answers.
1. Switch recoveries to twrp 2.5.0.2. I can't stress the importance of the particular version enough. There are others. This is absolutely the most stable. It's what the devs use. I think then your cm issue will be resolved.
Correct way to wipe with twrp.
1.wipe - >factory reset.
2. Advanced wipe - >check system, data, davlik, cache then wipe.
3. The go back to main screen and install rom.
2. Answered by answer one. Lots of people have lots of opinions about the various recoveries. All I can tell you is this is what all the devs use for their recovery. Can't argue with that.
3. Reserved space. It might say you have 16 gigs but a good size chunk is taking merely by formatting. Then the ROM and programs you have installed of course.
4. Honestly they are all freaking great. The aosp roms. You do the answer to number one and you can find out. DU is my fav @ this moment. Followed by beanstalk.
5. Go to mobile networks make sure your network mode is set to cdma +lte/evdo.
6. Answer 1.
7. You don't really want to wipe the entire internal SD card. Sounds good when you think it might screw you if you did it.
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Mightycaptain said:
Wow that's a lot. Let's see if we can get you answers.
1. Switch recoveries to twrp 2.5.0.2. I can't stress the importance of the particular version enough. There are others. This is absolutely the most stable. It's what the devs use. I think then your cm issue will be resolved.
Correct way to wipe with twrp.
1.wipe - >factory reset.
2. Advanced wipe - >check system, data, davlik, cache then wipe.
3. The go back to main screen and install rom.
2. Answered by answer one. Lots of people have lots of opinions about the various recoveries. All I can tell you is this is what all the devs use for their recovery. Can't argue with that.
3. Reserved space. It might say you have 16 gigs but a good size chunk is taking merely by formatting. Then the ROM and programs you have installed of course.
4. Honestly they are all freaking great. The aosp roms. You do the answer to number one and you can find out. DU is my fav @ this moment. Followed by beanstalk.
5. Go to mobile networks make sure your network mode is set to cdma +lte/evdo.
6. Answer 1.
7. You don't really want to wipe the entire internal SD card. Sounds good when you think it might screw you if you did it.
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Thanks for your response Mightycaptain! I used CWM as my first ever recovery and am kinda pressed on it, which is why I use it, but I have no issues going to TWRP if that means fixing my issues. Can you elaborate on how to install TWRP in place of my current CWM? I'll do some Googling in the meantime to try to find the answer myself. (I haven't done any flashing or rooting stuff since I got the phone in May!!)
Thanks for your answer in #5. Fixed the issue I was having.
My reason for wanting to wipe the entire internal SD card is there are still files, folders, logs and backups from when I had my previous ROM. I'm having issues restoring my nandroid backup from the night of the 7th so is it at all possible for me to salvage some of my settings, apps and file backups from those existing files? Once I fix my nandroid, I'm going to keep the nandroid backup in a safe place and I ideally want to have a completely clean phone to start from: That means getting rid of all those old files and other nonsense from before. Is this a possibility?
I'm going to spend my time today trying to extract data from my nandroid backups using ROM Toolbox Pro. If that doesn't work, I have a nandroid backup from the 31st that has 99% of the stuff I need so I'll try to restore that. If THAT doesn't work, then I'm going to cry myself to sleep while trying to remember all of my contacts
Wish me luck, and hopefully I can get some answers to my last few questions!
Thanks,
Opethfan89
opethfan89 said:
Thanks for your response Mightycaptain! I used CWM as my first ever recovery and am kinda pressed on it, which is why I use it, but I have no issues going to TWRP if that means fixing my issues. Can you elaborate on how to install TWRP in place of my current CWM? I'll do some Googling in the meantime to try to find the answer myself. (I haven't done any flashing or rooting stuff since I got the phone in May!!)
Thanks for your answer in #5. Fixed the issue I was having.
My reason for wanting to wipe the entire internal SD card is there are still files, folders, logs and backups from when I had my previous ROM. I'm having issues restoring my nandroid backup from the night of the 7th so is it at all possible for me to salvage some of my settings, apps and file backups from those existing files? Once I fix my nandroid, I'm going to keep the nandroid backup in a safe place and I ideally want to have a completely clean phone to start from: That means getting rid of all those old files and other nonsense from before. Is this a possibility?
I'm going to spend my time today trying to extract data from my nandroid backups using ROM Toolbox Pro. If that doesn't work, I have a nandroid backup from the 31st that has 99% of the stuff I need so I'll try to restore that. If THAT doesn't work, then I'm going to cry myself to sleep while trying to remember all of my contacts
Wish me luck, and hopefully I can get some answers to my last few questions!
Thanks,
Opethfan89
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Check my post here for twrp 2.5.0.2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47275165
You can flash it in your current recovery. It overwrites CWM. I would make sure you have a flashable for CWM just in case you need to go back for some reason. Also the backups between those 2 recoveries are not compatible. But I would nandroid with CWM before flashing twrp. I would also change were you recovery is pointing to for storage to the external SD if you haven't already. After you have cut your current backup and past it there. You can use rom toolbox pro to back up your contacts and restore it once you flash a new ROM.
Now as good advice going forward I would add your contacts to your Google account. That way when you flash new stuff or drop your phone in the toilet as soon as you add your Google account to the phone all those contacts will automatically download. But it is always a good idea to use tibu or rom toolbox pro to back up all your apps and seeing and use that after flashing roms to restore apps and settings.
But honestly I'd nandroid, move my contacts to Google, make app backups. Flash twrp. Then start flashing roms. You could be doing it in an hour. After you flash twrp make another nandroid so you have a twrp compatible backup. Then in a day or so of you are happy with everything delete the CWM backups for space.
Edit: as to extracting things from your current nandroid. Not sure if that is possible for one thing it is compressed not sure how that would work unless you are doing a full restore.
Also for future reference with TWRP. When restoring nandroid wipe like your flashing a new rom before restoring.
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Mightycaptain said:
Check my post here for twrp 2.5.0.2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47275165
You can flash it in your current recovery. It overwrites CWM. I would make sure you have a flashable for CWM just in case you need to go back for some reason. Also the backups between those 2 recoveries are not compatible. But I would nandroid with CWM before flashing twrp. I would also change were you recovery is pointing to for storage to the external SD if you haven't already. After you have cut your current backup and past it there. You can use rom toolbox pro to back up your contacts and restore it once you flash a new ROM.
Now as good advice going forward I would add your contacts to your Google account. That way when you flash new stuff or drop your phone in the toilet as soon as you add your Google account to the phone all those contacts will automatically download. But it is always a good idea to use tibu or rom toolbox pro to back up all your apps and seeing and use that after flashing roms to restore apps and settings.
But honestly I'd nandroid, move my contacts to Google, make app backups. Flash twrp. Then start flashing roms. You could be doing it in an hour. After you flash twrp make another nandroid so you have a twrp compatible backup. Then in a day or so of you are happy with everything delete the CWM backups for space.
Edit: as to extracting things from your current nandroid. Not sure if that is possible for one thing it is compressed not sure how that would work unless you are doing a full restore.
Also for future reference with TWRP. When restoring nandroid wipe like your flashing a new rom before restoring.
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Hey thanks again for your quick response!! I'm glad I checked this first, because I'm in my ROM Toolbox app atm and it has an option to let me install TWRP 2.5.0.2 from within the app itself. Should I do it this way?
I will be adding all contacts to Google from now on. Unfortunately I saved all my stuff to my Verizon backup assistant so I just need one last shot at my phone to save all those contacts (manually, if I must) and be able to enter them onto the new ROM.
By "flash it in your current recovery" I assume you mean download the .zip, place it on my internal /sdcard, and then "flash" it just like I would flash a ROM, right?
I'm sure I have a "flashable" for CWM somewhere but like I said, I haven't done any of this stuff on this phone since I first bought it, and things have changed so much with everyone having OTA's and being locked out that I'm not sure what process is the same or what has changed. I can't afford to lose this phone so I'm hesitant to go balls to the wall to try things.
I will try the things you've listed here. Seems like a nandroid + TiBu + Google Contacts is my best bet to get up and running each time I decide to try a new ROM.
Thanks again!
opethfan89 said:
Hey thanks again for your quick response!! I'm glad I checked this first, because I'm in my ROM Toolbox app atm and it has an option to let me install TWRP 2.5.0.2 from within the app itself. Should I do it this way?
I will be adding all contacts to Google from now on. Unfortunately I saved all my stuff to my Verizon backup assistant so I just need one last shot at my phone to save all those contacts (manually, if I must) and be able to enter them onto the new ROM.
By "flash it in your current recovery" I assume you mean download the .zip, place it on my internal /sdcard, and then "flash" it just like I would flash a ROM, right?
I'm sure I have a "flashable" for CWM somewhere but like I said, I haven't done any of this stuff on this phone since I first bought it, and things have changed so much with everyone having OTA's and being locked out that I'm not sure what process is the same or what has changed. I can't afford to lose this phone so I'm hesitant to go balls to the wall to try things.
I will try the things you've listed here. Seems like a nandroid + TiBu + Google Contacts is my best bet to get up and running each time I decide to try a new ROM.
Thanks again!
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Understand the hesitancy completely. But with nodding comes risk. It is always about whether you can accept the worst possible outcome.
Rom toolbox pro flashing recovery? I don't know never tried it.
Yes I would download the recovery. Leave it on SD card reboot to recovery and flash like a rom.
Yes nandroid tibu and saving your contacts to Google is the quickest way to get up and running again.
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Understand the hesitancy completely. But with nodding comes risk. It is always about whether you can accept the worst possible outcome.
Rom toolbox pro flashing recovery? I don't know never tried it.
Yes I would download the recovery. Leave it on SD card reboot to recovery and flash like a rom.
Yes nandroid tibu and saving your contacts to Google is the quickest way to get up and running again.
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Mighty, just wanted to report that flashing TWRP 2.5.0.2 from within ROM Toolbox Pro worked like a charm. I'm on TWRP as we speak.
Thank you so much for your responses. If anyone else has anything to add, or a different response to my questions, please do so! In the meantime, I'm going to try to figure out how to get my nandroid backup working...
Cheers!
*EDIT* Made a backup with TWRP (whose interface is bloody phenomenal, btw), flashed CWM and its working like a charm!! Going to try the st0ckdr0id one as well. Still working on getting that nandroid working so I can recover my stuff and get to customizing!