Just picked up an Orange branded TG01 (WM6.5) that is in great shape so immediately came here to peruse the forums for a good ROM. Before I get started just want to say that you guys perform a great service and I really appreciate it! I've been periodically checking in here since end of 2008. Had it not been for the excellent ROMs like the Schap's 4.31 (WM 6.0) ROM for my ancient, but bulletproof, HTC Hermes 8525 not sure what smartphone I would have ended up with.
Regarding TG01, I have searched these forums a bit trying to find which is the best way to proceed, but still too much of a TG01 n00b at this point. Here are some questions/comments if some of you wouldn't mind answering for me: (Thanks in advance!)
1. I'm guessing Android development is dead on TG01 since it seems most developers have moved on already. Is that correct?
2. There are no polished versions of Android where all functions work at this point?
2. From my searches so far, it seems like the developers' WM 6.5 focus was/is mostly on stripping out unnecessary crap, like I found that Orange likes to include, to free up memory, resources, and improve battery life. Is that a fair assessment? Even after some preliminary searching the forums here I still haven't a clue which XDA ROM has the greatest functionality, but without the pork. I have to say that I'm really disappointed in the (I guess) stock WM 6.5 in my phone. It seems so dumbed down compared to my old WM 6.0 vsn. I had access to just about every possible feature/setting of the OS, but this 6.5 vsn is so limited for access and customizing. Of course I'm sure much of that was from the cooked XDA ROM. I see now why the general public was so negative about WM 6.5. Anyway, looks like the only alternative at this point is to find the best WM6.5.X ROM for my TG01 since WP 7 seems like vaporware for this model also.
3. Does the TG01 actually have an internal GPS receiver? When I click on that feature it begins looking for a network. Is that because of the Assisted-GPS or because the phone doesn't have the receiver? Orange Maps is installed, but it gives me an error message, probably because I'm in Thailand, and this phone came from the UK.
4. Trying to sort out the tiny 1000 mah battery problem like everyone else has. One option I found in these forums is the very expensive Mugen battery kits. Are there any other alternatives?
Sorry about the n00b questions, but I like this phone and hope to give it a good home (with some upgrades) until prices come down on the newer Galaxy line of phones. Phones in Thailand are expensive, even older models. While a new Galaxy S 2 sells for about the same price as in the US, the Galaxy S still sells for around $440. Even a new Omnia II still sells for $235 here. New ones on eBay are selling for ~$95.
Will stop for now. I welcome any and all comments and advice.
Thanks!
Two answers, best winmo ROM fxdj 6.5 with SPB, and mirom8 or mirom1 with UFC. Android in development few developers are on, main nini_75
@CrashMurdock,
Welcome to the Forum - and no such thing as too late
I believe my WM6.5 ROM (see link in signature below) is about as close to a definitive 'simple' but fully functional Titanium edition (ie. what the Tg01 could have looked like out of the box! ). There are a number of carefully selected cooked in enhancements and additional apps, but it does not include Mobile Shell, given that is something which can easily be added to taste if required.
You may wish to try it out and see what you think, even if just from interest to see how the device can behave. Overall I would hope you will find it a dramatic improvement on the stock ROM you are currently 'enjoying'. Beyond that, there are a range of other WM6.5.x ROMs available - a good place to look for a roundup is Pere's ROM Table which lists all the editions available and provides links to their sources.
With regard to your question about GPS.... the TG01 has a proper integrated GPS receiver which works extremely well when set up correctly and with suitable GS mapping software. Personally I favour Garmin XT when driving and Google Maps for general reference, but there are others using Tom Tom and other apps quite happily. I have made various registry edits in order to effectively control the GPS and am now very happy with its performance, whether using Google maps or Garmin XT.
You also mention the 'battery problem'. Personally I favour the Mugen 1300 mAH battery which is only a tad thicker than the stock battery and retains the original back cover without problem. Just a littlet trickier to get the cover off but mainly knack. Another Mugen (or could be the stock) then lives in my wallet as a charged spare. No problems then with endurance, particularly if you have the opportunity to top up from a laptop sometimes.
Best regards,
Kevin
CrashMurdock said:
4. Trying to sort out the tiny 1000 mah battery problem like everyone else has. One option I found in these forums is the very expensive Mugen battery kits. Are there any other alternatives?
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If You have any electric skills and nothin against thick tg01, You can utilize middle or large Mugen covers and
"naked" li-pol battery in connection with original 1000mAh battery. This solution is about 3 times cheaper than utilizing original Mugen 2600 or 3900 batteries.
There is the thread on the forum with my solution and pictures.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
nikola92 said:
Two answers, best winmo ROM fxdj 6.5 with SPB, and mirom8 or mirom1 with UFC. Android in development few developers are on, main nini_75
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Thanks for the quick response. I'll check 'em out.
kevinpwhite said:
@CrashMurdock,
Welcome to the Forum - and no such thing as too late
I believe my WM6.5 ROM (see link in signature below) is about as close to a definitive 'simple' but fully functional Titanium edition (ie. what the Tg01 could have looked like out of the box! ). There are a number of carefully selected cooked in enhancements and additional apps, but it does not include Mobile Shell, given that is something which can easily be added to taste if required.
You may wish to try it out and see what you think, even if just from interest to see how the device can behave. Overall I would hope you will find it a dramatic improvement on the stock ROM you are currently 'enjoying'. Beyond that, there are a range of other WM6.5.x ROMs available - a good place to look for a roundup is Pere's ROM Table which lists all the editions available and provides links to their sources.
With regard to your question about GPS.... the TG01 has a proper integrated GPS receiver which works extremely well when set up correctly and with suitable GS mapping software. Personally I favour Garmin XT when driving and Google Maps for general reference, but there are others using Tom Tom and other apps quite happily. I have made various registry edits in order to effectively control the GPS and am now very happy with its performance, whether using Google maps or Garmin XT.
You also mention the 'battery problem'. Personally I favour the Mugen 1300 mAH battery which is only a tad thicker than the stock battery and retains the original back cover without problem. Just a littlet trickier to get the cover off but mainly knack. Another Mugen (or could be the stock) then lives in my wallet as a charged spare. No problems then with endurance, particularly if you have the opportunity to top up from a laptop sometimes.
Best regards,
Kevin
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Hi Kevin,
Thanks for the warm welcome and the great info! I actually already downloaded your KPW110618.007 vsn a couple of days ago, but haven't installed it yet as still in the fact finding phase. I will definitely give it a whirl. Also, thanks for the links to Pere's ROM Table, I looked at it briefly the other day, but am unfamiliar with many of the terms used, so was/am a bit confused since being new to the TG01 game. I'm sure that will pass shortly. Hope you guys don't mind more n00b questions.
That's great news about the GPS. I have an old Googlemaps cab, but am hoping to find an app that doesn't require online service as cell-based Internet here in Isaan, the northeast Thailand farming region, is beyond slow. My TG01 shows Edge service only, although my 8525 shows G service availability. Not sure if a new radio version will improve that or not. Any ideas? BTW, which registry editor are you using?
I just checked your Mugen link. Looking at their 'fat' 2600/3900 mah kits, I'm wondering why Mugen didn't take advantage of the phone's massive real estate to make a double/single layer array of 1300 mah batteries wired in parallel instead of just stacking them up making for a very thick case. From a left hand side profile it would look something like this:
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* 1300 mah battery * 1300 mah battery *
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battery-------------> * 1300 mah battery *
compartment ------>******************
or better yet...
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* 1000 mah battery * 1000 mah battery *
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* 1000 mah battery * 1000 mah battery *
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battery-------------->* 1000 mah battery *
compartment ------>******************
(Sorry for the crudeness of the diagram as the infernal extra space remover kept trashing it. The asterisks represent the battery pack arrays)
I would definitely like to get weekly charging cycles like I have with my 'fat' 3000 mah Cameron Sino battery I have in my 8525. I found 1000 mah TG01 batteries on eBay for around $8.10 each including free shipping. Here's the link:
Code:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170658969408?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Update: Just discovered these are excellent quality Cameron Sino batteries!
This phone needs and deserves a 'fat' battery setup to feed that 1 GHz CPU and to preserve the micro-USB port. It's a shame that Mugen batteries/kits are so extremely expensive. Sure would like to have one of their 2600 cases for the project, though.
Kevin, thanks again and I look forward to more exchanges.
Cheers!
fxdjacentyfxd said:
If You have any electric skills and nothin against thick tg01, You can utilize middle or large Mugen covers and
"naked" li-pol battery in connection with original 1000mAh battery. This solution is about 3 times cheaper than utilizing original Mugen 2600 or 3900 batteries.
There is the thread on the forum with my solution and pictures.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Greetings fxdjacentyfxd,
I plan to do just that similar to my crude diagrams to Kevin, above. I'll search for your thread.
Thanks!
Never is too late! Welcome aboard....
Regarding your comment, I suggested exactly the same idea somewhere in the forum some months ago... I agree with you, Mugen design sucks!.
Now I'm using a 2600 mAH battery and I'm very happy with it.
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Pere said:
Never is too late! Welcome aboard....
Regarding your comment, I suggested exactly the same idea somewhere in the forum some months ago... I agree with you, Mugen design sucks!.
Now I'm using a 2600 mAH battery and I'm very happy with it.
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Hi again Pere,
Thank you for the nice welcome! I had a much better experience once I bought a 'fat' 3000 mah battery kit for my HTC Hermes/8525 a couple of years ago. I'm not great at soldering so plan to get one of the Thai phone shop technicians to do the honors. I've just ordered (2) Cameron Sino 1000 mah batteries so will try a triple battery "optimized" array. Yesterday I sent an email to Mugen asking if I can buy a 'replacement' 2600 mah rear cover. Hope they'll part with one...and for a reasonable price.
Cheers...
Nice!
Please share pictures or video if you have success
CrashMurdock said:
Yesterday I sent an email to Mugen asking if I can buy a 'replacement' 2600 mah rear cover. Hope they'll part with one...and for a reasonable price.
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You could ask me
Cover cost is 7$ ( any TG01 cover ) with shipment to any country.
There is internet shop in mugen, so You did not have to ask them about it.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Nice!
Please share pictures or video if you have success
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Hi Pere,
No problem!
fxdjacentyfxd said:
You could ask me
Cover cost is 7$ ( any TG01 cover ) with shipment to any country.
There is internet shop in mugen, so You did not have to ask them about it.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Greetings fxdjacentyfxd,
I am confused! After reading your post I just went back again to
Code:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Toshiba+TG01&x=29&y=10
and only found the same three products of 1300 mah battery, 2600 mah battery with rear cover and stylus, and 3900 mah battery with rear cover. Do you have a direct link listing only the back covers?
Thanks!
CrashMurdock said:
Greetings fxdjacentyfxd,
I am confused! After reading your post I just went back again to
Code:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Toshiba+TG01&x=29&y=10
and only found the same three products of 1300 mah battery, 2600 mah battery with rear cover and stylus, and 3900 mah battery with rear cover. Do you have a direct link listing only the back covers?
Thanks!
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He he, it is special backdoor . I got it from mugen few months ago .
https://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-battery-backdoor.html
Cover model for largest battery for tg01 is :
HLI-TG01XL (Black)
I checked it few minutes ago and it is tragedy
From unknown reasons two things has been changed.
I guess they had many orders for covers only, not batteries and changed
inquiry form.
1 ) First, cost of cover has been changed from 7$ to 14$ !!!
2) You have to insert "battery order" number so in other words You have to proove You bought battery in mugen. It is without sense. What about if I bought tg01 in second hand from big mugen battery and cover has been destroyed ?
I had luck. My total costs was 7$
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
...You have to insert "battery order" number so in other words You have to proove You bought battery in mugen. It is without sense. What about if I bought tg01 in second hand from big mugen battery and cover has been destroyed ?
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Ironic as that was going to be my excuse if Mugen asked me why I wanted the back cover only after requesting one online a couple of days ago. I was going to tell them I just bought the phone used (true) and accidently dropped it and the back cover is damaged. If they asked for battery ID stuff I would just say the phone is in the shop being repaired as it stopped working. Instead, I got an email from Mugen today saying they don't have "cases" only back covers. I'm thinking WTF??!! I was very clear in my written request for a 'replacement' rear cover for their 2600 mah battery pack for the TG01. Will see what happens tomorrow.
Thanks for the info!
Cheers...
CrashMurdock said:
Instead, I got an email from Mugen today saying they don't have "cases" only back covers. I'm thinking WTF??!! I was very clear in my written request for a 'replacement' rear cover for their 2600 mah battery pack for the TG01. Will see what happens tomorrow.
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He he. They did not understand You. Maybe new person in customer service
You can always show them link I sent You.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
He he. They did not understand You. Maybe new person in customer service
You can always show them link I sent You.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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LOL!...I hope that's all it was. Will know more tomorrow if she replies with, "We're sorry, but we don't have air filters for a Ford Focus."
Cheers!
Hi
I am new also in the TG01 branch!
I bought my TG01 2 week ago and searching for a good ROM I stoped to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993343
I tried also MiROM 1 update 6 but fxdjacentyfxd is more practical! Or I like it more!
Rila said:
Hi
I am new also in the TG01 branch!
I bought my TG01 2 week ago and searching for a good ROM I stoped to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993343
I tried also MiROM 1 update 6 but fxdjacentyfxd is more practical! Or I like it more!
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Greetings Rila and Welcome! Hopefully we can learn the TG01 together.
Cheers...
fxdjacentyfxd said:
1 ) First, cost of cover has been changed from 7$ to 14$ !!!
2) You have to insert "battery order" number so in other words You have to proove You bought battery in mugen. It is without sense. What about if I bought tg01 in second hand from big mugen battery and cover has been destroyed ?
I had luck. My total costs was 7$
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Just got an email from Mugen with a direct link to order. Either battery (2600 mah or 3900 mah) back cover is now $14.98! How long ago did you order yours for $7? At least international shipping is still free so not a bad total price considering. The problem is as you mentioned that the buyer must provide "Your Battery Order Number". Also, there's this note at the bottom:
"PLEASE NOTE: We will only ship additional battery doors to customers who have purchased batteries form us and only for the battery types purchased."
Looks like I'm out of luck with the pirates at Mugen.
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Guys I really really need a larger capacity battery. The one I have now barely lasts me a day even if it is just on standby.
I found this on eBay
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...loc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget
The seller seems to have a decent rating and everybody that bought this battery from him for the Hermes seems to have left positive feedback. From what I saw, there are over 20 people who bought this battery from him and nobody seems to be unhappy from their comments. I tried emailing a few of the buyers to get their comments on it, but eBay doesn't allow you to contact more than 1 person in a day.
Some of the complaints I've seen here on the forums about Cameron Sino batteries.
1) The battery status on the phone is always stuck at 100% with this battery
2) Some of them would not charge at all
3) The battery would hardly last a day on a full charge and was only slightly better than the OEM 1350mah battery.
4) The battey door cover is poor quality and is not an exact fit.
At $25.00 with free international shipping, it's a steal and I don't want to be plonking down $80.00 for a Mugen battery considering I might be getting the Kaiser soon.
Any opinions or alternatives would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
EDIT - PS. I did finally buy the same Cameron Sino Battery. You can follow my review and reports about the battery here. (Same Thread - Post 21 onwards)
Well,
I bought me this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/Ext-2800mAh-Bat...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It lasts for several days even if using WLAN & BT. Batery status and charging works properly - except charging the battery entirely takes much longer! Now, this is normal with that capacy!
The back door fits exactly! There is a tiny color difference - the back door is a little bit brighter than phone but that does not really bother! In fact you only will notice this the first few times that there is a slight difference!
I bought before from the same seller as well when I still had a MDA VARIO. Made good experiences. The battery I bought now is really working very well, the included backdoor makes sense and getting an additional free wall charger + car charger can't be bad either!
Hope that helps?
If you don't mind me asking... how long ago did you get this for your Hermes?
I have an Orange SPV M3100 with a dark Grey - Black Door. Is there any battery that comes with a back door in that color or even close?
Again thanks for your response.
I have this battery now for more than 3 months. The 2 batteries I bought for my WIZARDS I had over 3 years in use.
I took some pictures to let you see the color difference and that it really does not bother much. If you PM me your email address I can send them to you - they are too large to attach here, sorry!
BUMP... anybody?
does anyone make a case that will fit this extended battery?
I just picked up a 3000mAh battery for my Tytn. Edit to add link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150167782211&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=005 (was kinda pissed as it was shipped from Hong Kong rather than Vancouver) Using TomTom Navigator for hours on end and well as constantly playing MP3s when I can. Plus all the other stuff I do with my phone I was killing a fully charged battery in under 12hrs.
With this new 3000mAh battery I can actually miss a nightly charge and still be good. The charge indicator seems to work properly. I did notice that when it starts to go below 50% it drops fast, however I can go almost an entire day of use and not get below 80%.
The good Battery lasts MUCH MUCH longer than the 1350 that was in it.
The Bad
Weight, it makes an already bulky phone feel twice as bad. Especially if you holding it in your hand talking for more than 15 or 20mins at a shot.
Bulk. It no longer fits correctly in the HTC Branded case that came with my phone. I can stuff it in there and it will close but not nearly as well as it did before.
Backplate. Although a great fit and just as strong as the OEM backplate. The colour is wrong for me. I have the lightgrey almost a slight metallic blue ting to it, and the backplate they sent me was a dark metallic Grey.
As soon as I find out where I left my old digital camera I will take some pics of it and post it up.
Final Impressions.
If you are a busy body that really puts a strain on your phone and can't be bothered carrying a travel charger with you. The Extended Battery is a great investment.
However
If your phone is in your pocket more than in your hand, and can remember to charge it at night then the slim OEM battery is probably good enough.
Capt Fiero said:
... Although a great fit and just as strong as the OEM backplate. The colour is wrong for me. I have the lightgrey almost a slight metallic blue ting to it, and the backplate they sent me was a dark metallic Grey.
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Yeah, I know what you're talking about! When I received my battery the back door was a dark silver one but my 8525 is graphit! However, it does not look to bad either considering that I do not sit and watch the back of my phone!
I uploaded some pictures here: <link no longer exists>
There is also a link to an eBay auction of that battery on that page. In case the auction is ended already you will find it again in the seller's store or by performing a search on eBay with tha auction title.
Sure,
the phone's weight is a bit more but considering that I can use my Hermes for at least 3 days or more it was woth the US$9.99 I've spent! Lucky me, I was the only one bidder on that item!
The battery door fits exactly, nothing moves nor shakes! Battery status works perfect!
After seeing your pics I REALLY need to post up my pics. Because You have the backplate that looks to be exactly like my phone and I have the backplate that looks to much match your phone. Would you be up for a trade? Once I post up the pics and you can verify the colour and like new condition of my backplate.
Capt Fiero said:
After seeing your pics I REALLY need to post up my pics. Because You have the backplate that looks to be exactly like my phone and I have the backplate that looks to much match your phone. Would you be up for a trade? Once I post up the pics and you can verify the colour and like new condition of my backplate.
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Sure, why not! If it fits with my 2800mAh battery!
Yeah... Junner's battery is a real tight fit. BTW, Thanks for the help buddy.
Finally ordered the Cameron Sino 3000mah battery. It should be here in a week. I'll post a review once it gets here.
I did not even realize it until I started taking close up pics of the battery and back cover. It is a Cameron Sino battery.
Here are the pics
I have shrunk the pics down to 640x480 if you want to see a higher Go to www.captfiero.com/cellphonebattery/master
LOL... if only you had posted these pictures or had figured out you had a Cameron Sino battery a week ago... I would have had my battery by now with no need for further research
Thanks Capt. Fiero.... feel a lot better about my purchase now that I know there are other TyTN users with the same battery... minus any of the problems I had outlined.
Great Pics... fantastic zoom quality.... what camera are you using?
The Camera is a rather cheap camera, but dang it, it takes the best Macro shots of any camera I have looked at. Better than some $1000+ units. Its not great for distance or low light, but I will be keeping it for a long time to use for inside taking small high res shots of stuff.
Its a Fuji FinePix E500 4.1mp with a Macro Zoom feature.
I need help to buy this battery with 3000 mAh.
I am from Serbia in Europe and don't have here e-bay.
Can somebody who can to buy it to send me it with post-express.
I will pay!Please!
The guy I bought it from ships to any location in the world.
Check his website http://www.megacapacity.com
It's only about a dollar or two more expensive than it is on ebay.
Hmmm... I have a Cameron Sino 3000mah battery on my Dopod 838 and I only seem to get about 11-12 hours out of it. Most of the time it's in standby, and with wifi off with only bluetooth always on.
Is this normal? I've always thought that the battery life sucked, but just thought it may have been normal...
How long does it take to charge the 3000mAH battery to full capacity?
Capt Fiero said:
After seeing your pics I REALLY need to post up my pics. Because You have the backplate that looks to be exactly like my phone and I have the backplate that looks to much match your phone. Would you be up for a trade? Once I post up the pics and you can verify the colour and like new condition of my backplate.
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So, when do we trade the back plates?
There is a new double capacity 2200mAH battery in Expansys website:
http://www.expansys.com.hk/d.aspx?i=183044
Wonder how is the thickness increased by this new battery? Is there any impact to the GPS radio as seen in some extended battery in original Diamond?
I'm sure that the thickness increased!
Otherwise not be sold with cover. It is like the diamond 1.
This one is much more modest (1350 mAh), but seems to fit within the original back cover:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIAMOND2-LONG-LIFE-BA-S360-COMPATIBLE/dp/B002AANPYG
It seems that extended batteries are appearing on the net already, nice, I would like to have something a little bit more beefy than the original one (2200 mAh may be overkill), to be able to use my TD2 on the move while not worrying about saving battery (GPS and wifi while away from plugs for 1 day for example). A battery slightly larger than the orginal, plus the original as a backup, should cover all my uses cases...
The website mentioned the extended battery only price at GBP8.90. Wish buyer may get the goods.
gkai said:
This one is much more modest (1350 mAh), but seems to fit within the original back cover:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIAMOND2-LONG-LIFE-BA-S360-COMPATIBLE/dp/B002AANPYG
It seems that extended batteries are appearing on the net already, nice, I would like to have something a little bit more beefy than the original one (2200 mAh may be overkill), to be able to use my TD2 on the move while not worrying about saving battery (GPS and wifi while away from plugs for 1 day for example). A battery slightly larger than the orginal, plus the original as a backup, should cover all my uses cases...
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I've just received one of these, I'll post with results when it's been through a few cycles.
Anfield800 said:
I've just received one of these, I'll post with results when it's been through a few cycles.
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That would be nice, thanks.
yeap. please let us know. i am really interested in this. is it really the same size as the original battery? that would be great.
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yeap. please let us know. i am really interested in this. is it really the same size as the original battery? that would be great.
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Interrested about your test too: how does it fit, how long for charging it (compared to standard one), and of course the most important thing: does it offer increased battery life
Anfield800 said:
I've just received one of these, I'll post with results when it's been through a few cycles.
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I bought the same one, but the size is much smaller and a bit wider than the original, as I explain in my post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3943769#post3943769
I told the guy, and he told me there must be some mistake, and he' ll send it again. How does yours look like size-wise? Is it working properly?
any news on the 1350 battery?
The issue is solved, as I explain in my relevant post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525090&page=2
The battery I was given was wrong. The guy sent me the correct one now, and everything seems fine.
Hi,
Last week i bought an extra battery for my hd, i decided to order a genuine HTC battery instead of an aftermarket battery hoping i would get quality for my money. I ordered from an pretty reliable webshop.
The battery came in an HTC packing witch looked genuine to me.
But when checked the battery a bit closer and compared it to my original battery that came with the phone it looked a bit different.
After fidling a while with it, I noticed it was kinda raggity-ass and one part of the battery was loose.
Anyway i upped some pictures where you can see what im talking about.
http://img17.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=cimg2066o.jpg
I was hoping someone could tell me if i have been propper fed or if HTC is making cheap ass battery's now to save a few bucks.
PS: is there anyway of checking the serial no. online to see if it is genuine HTC.
PS2: the best noticeable difference is where the original battery says:
Serial no.:
and the lame one:
Serial no:
so without the dot before the colon
emails
HTC responce:
Thank you for your enquiry.
In regards to checking if the battery is genuine or fake, we would recommend that you contact our main distributor to see if they can check for you.
[email protected] 01618680868 www.eXpansys.com
Please forward all details onto eXpansys our main distributor. Thank you.
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eXpansys:
Hi
We just run HTC’s webshop for Europe so I suggest that you take this up with HTC directly
Sincere apologies
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Well at least they know what there selling
Hi, do you have any news about this subject?
Nope
Nah... i gave up. Its still working propperly. I must say though, I looked ad a few batterys from other peoples touch hd's and saw a few differences in them too. So i think it's a genuine battery but that there are a few companys who make them for HTC and some are better than others.
Ezekiel2517 said:
Nah... i gave up. Its still working propperly. I must say though, I looked ad a few batterys from other peoples touch hd's and saw a few differences in them too. So i think it's a genuine battery but that there are a few companys who make them for HTC and some are better than others.
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I usually prefer to buy batteries, not from the original manufacturer, but from other places (i dont mean cheapo chinese ebay type). They are usually a higher rated battery so last a bit longer and are generally cheaper, and I like to think that they are trying harder to make a better battery to sell, but i'm sure it's not the case, and that the materials will be cheaper and therefore less stable. In my experience they haven't let me down yet. As long as they are CE approved, it's all good.
Your story about perhaps getting a fake after paying extra for an "original" is scary though. If it was a fake that is. I'd expect an original to be well made, but in your case you say it felt poor quality. I hope they're not all like that.
Now that I'm using Android and my phone's life has been extended, I wanted to extend its battery life too. Branded extended life batteries are really expensive at retail. Seidio and mugen both sell 3000+mah for something like $80. HTC sells a smaller 2150 for around $40.
According to batteryboss.org, HTC's 2150 battery (rhod170) is pretty much the only battery that meets its mah rating, so I went hunting for a good price on one. Found this one for $5 shipped, or $7.51 for two if you want to better your odds. Figured it was either fake or used or otherwise had issues, but I got mine in the mail and it has zero contact wear and looks the spitting image of the legit rhod170. Seller has 5 left at the time of this posting. You can easily find other batteries advertised as rhod170 for $10 shipped, but it's always anyone's guess if they're legit or not. I had to roll the dice with no idea, and I thought someone else would appreciate hearing that this particular seller shipped 2 rhod170s that very much appear to be legit. Took about 1 week to receive from NY.
You need the extended cover to go with it. The cheapest I could find was from batteries4less, which you can shave another 10% off with save10 coupon code. It does look exactly like the OEM, with both HTC and verizon branding, however my particular one bulges a little in the middle when attached, like it isn't latching as well there. It isn't really noticeable unless you're looking for it, and it could be the fault of one of the drops my phone has taken over the years. Shipped quick, maybe 3 business days.
With both battery and cover, YMMV. I won't know for a couple of days at least what the lifespan is. And I'm still looking for a program that I can use to get accurate, easy-to-compare bench information from. Suggestions on that front are welcome. My original battery 1500 mah battery has been in use nearly 24/7 for almost 2 years. I'm not sure a comparison to that would be helpful to anyone.
See (someone else's) pictures here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578388&page=2
How much longer is the battery working?
Since my last battery was in use for almost 2 years, I'm not sure comparison to it is worth anything. Battery life was atrocious. I basically kept it perpetually plugged in with just a few hours a day away from an outlet of some sort. I had cables everywhere to keep it charged. Now I can go 2 days of moderate use without plugging it in. I'm very pleased, especially given the price.
Couple of months ago, i bought the rhod 170 from ebay, using it since than, but to be honestly, the batterylife isnt much longer than the original one.
I think i have bought a FAKE one, this one is RED ( not black like at the picture )
See picture below.
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5usd is very cheap ( maybe too cheap ) are you sure it is orginal htc battery, and no chinese garbage?
This website had the same battery
http://www.wirelessground.com/tilt2extbatt.html
It looks like the orginal htc battery, you can also look to the video with the guy who looks like he woke up couple of seconds ago, and inmediately started making the video. The website you gave is 6 times cheaper.. isnt that a little bit
suspiciously?
freaknormel said:
5usd is very cheap ( maybe too cheap ) are you sure it is orginal htc battery, and no chinese garbage?
This website had the same battery
http://www.wirelessground.com/tilt2extbatt.html
It looks like the orginal htc battery, you can also look to the video with the guy who looks like he woke up couple of seconds ago, and inmediately started making the video. The website you gave is 6 times cheaper.. isnt that a little bit
suspiciously?
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I have no new information. Mine still looks real and it still gives me better battery life than my OEM 1500 ever did, even though XDAndroid isn't as battery friendly as winmo.
If you're considering grabbing one of the same, you're gambling, just a little less than if you got a similarly priced rhod170 from a seller with no positive feedback yet. You can hedge a little more by buying 2 and hoping at least one works to spec. If you want a guarantee, you'll have pay $40ish to a well-known outfit that takes returns.
The cover on the picture you posted looks very thick, thicker than you actually need.
I bought this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-TOUCH-P...ccessories&hash=item23148ba3ce#ht_1765wt_1397
Its a high quality cover, and its smaller than the one you showed. No need to carry a ticker phone if it can be smaller . it fits the 2150 mah battery perfect
Looks the same thickness to me (though black is a slimming color), and there's no spare room in mine. Both are made by HTC, it's just the one you got was designed for the GSM while mine was CDMA.
I have ordered 2 pieces. lets see what it gives me. Do you have any information about how to use it first time ? ( fully charge ) downcharge etc..
freaknormel said:
I have ordered 2 pieces. lets see what it gives me. Do you have any information about how to use it first time ? ( fully charge ) downcharge etc..
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I've read varying views on that. Lithium Ion batteries like these don't have memory effect, however, there might still be metering issues (relating your phone's ability to measure how much battery power is actually left). In android, I used a utility that wiped out past information collected on my 1500mah (don't know if there is a winmo analog) and did a full charge and full discharge right off the bat. Since then, I've kept it topped off as there is unanimous agreement that you shouldn't discharge lions often.
That's what I did, but I can't promise it's the best way. I have no inside information, that's just what I've culled from contradictory sources.
Do they also ship to the netherlands?
I couldn't tell ya, but since the particular seller I linked is out of stock of the batteries, I'm not sure it matters.
i like chichitec's slim extended battery, bought 2 of them with a wall chager for $30 a while back, 1900mAh each. One of them lasts me 2 days but I full charge at night out of habit and not wanting to be stuck without phone on 2nd day even though I only reach 60-70% after first day lol
fortunz, i see you have a rhod500, do you know if that battery works with a rhod400 as well?
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Correct me if I'm wrong - but after searching, it appears the answer is yes.
Would the BTE6875 be equivalent to the RHOD170?
My 2 cents
Mugen batteries are the best. They are the only extended slim batteries I have ever tried that actually live up to the name extended and outperform the stock batt. I have had 4 of their batteries for various devices and this week I just got the first for my Rhod and what a difference! Don't know why I waited so long to get one... I guess the rhod was just supposed to tie me over til WP7 came out... but now it looks like I'm trying to hold out for windows 8 (or 64bit cpu).
At any rate you can try to find a good one on Ebay for $10 and buy 4 different ones in the process, or you can do what I would recommend and spend $35 just buy Mugen.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...373-1800mah-extended-replacement-battery.html
They have links for 4 diff models too!
hi bodies,
i purchased a Hyperion Samsung Galaxy Note from amazon a week ago, which someone recommended in this forum. it's mark 2600mAh on the back of the battery, so, should be last a little longer than my stock 2500mAh right? but after a few cycles, i feel strange it looks like last only half as long as my stock battery.
i teared off the label whether this battery is good or not, see what i found, there is some code LS514664AR 1750MAH. 2011/12/19.
accoding to my mechanical engineering experience, LS514664AR is the serial number of battery cell, and 2011/12/19 must be the date of manufacture, and 1750MAH is the real capacity of the cell, which means this battery is 1750mAh.
much more less than the 2600mah they marked, and also the 2500mAh original.
i was so disappointed with this company, they made poor products for us, and cheat us more over! i will never trust this company again, anyone else have their batteries? just tear off the label, you can see what you get.
my attachments below
nice find, thanks... never trusting non-oem batteries again
You shouldn't trust any battery, even one that says OEM, from Ebay or Amazon. Especially when they are charging $10 for what should be a $25 battery. When I see that I always order 2 because I know they are fake and will not last as long.
I got two of those Hyperion batteries and a wall charger off eBay for $25 shipped. Even if they are 1750mah, they won't damage the Note they just wont last as long. After SEVERAL cycles they are lasting me 4-5hrs of steady use, which for $25 is worth the money for an emergency backup(s).
techntrek said:
You shouldn't trust any battery, even one that says OEM, from Ebay or Amazon. Especially when they are charging $10 for what should be a $25 battery. When I see that I always order 2 because I know they are fake and will not last as long.
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techntrek said:
You shouldn't trust any battery, even one that says OEM, from Ebay or Amazon. Especially when they are charging $10 for what should be a $25 battery. When I see that I always order 2 because I know they are fake and will not last as long.
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I agree 100%. People are foolishly buying these cheap batteries thinking they are getting a great deal but what they are getting is cheap counterfeit battery that doesn't perform as well as the original and could do damage to the phone.
Be smart people, pay the extra money and buy your batteries at legitimate vendors, your mobile provider or Samsung directly. If one of these cheap batteries happen to explode and leak all over your phone you can kiss you warranty goodbye.
The OP should write a negative review of the product on Amazon and post pictures of the counterfeit battery backing his claim.
Arent people just asking too much? If they dont mark it high enoigh will u buy? And if there are no non-oem companies around, will u complain oem charging 30 bucks for same capacity battery? Though i agree company shouldnt mark high, but at the same time these companies.need.to be around to keep cost down. Else oem charging $100 for battery is justifiable (like apple!)
I have a 5000mah hyperion battery for my galaxy note, and I ripped off the label and it says "1500mah" directly on the battery... further peeling of the sticker shows what appears to be 3x1500mah batteries under the shell.. so 4500mah on a 5000mah advertised battery.
I'll post pictures later but it says:
1500mah
YJT484461AR
12-01-14
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I also purchased the Hyperion battery pack, and the only problem i have had with it, is that the charger broke 2 weeks after i got it. The batteries seem to be lasting pretty close to the same amount of time as my original battery: 8-10 hours w/ moderate to heavy use. I have experienced ZERO problems with the batteries themselves.
heard good thing about this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525175
you can buy it here and do a review lol
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-2500mAh...QWX0/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1332450658&sr=8-7
Synapse777 said:
I have a 5000mah hyperion battery for my galaxy note, and I ripped off the label and it says "1500mah" directly on the battery... further peeling of the sticker shows what appears to be 3x1500mah batteries under the shell.. so 4500mah on a 5000mah advertised battery.
I'll post pictures later but it says:
1500mah
YJT484461AR
12-01-14
ft.trillian.im/synapse777/1332431838224820-DUltqtFT.jpg
ft.trillian.im/synapse777/1332432180313557-miv0eJuz.jpg
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it's two inside, if you compare the thickness of your OEM battery, you will find hyperion 5000mAh seems doubled, which means 2*1500mAh=3000mAh.
lsxrx7 said:
heard good thing about this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525175
you can buy it here and do a review lol
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-2500mAh...QWX0/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1332450658&sr=8-7
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for the price 15$, i will have a try, thanks
Your lucky, my 2600 mAh said this:
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Not my pic, another person ( Josh19k) posted it in an old thread...
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Yes the Hyperion battery is just one of many batteries with exaggerated claims.. Its lower than claimed capacity became clear to me when I compared its gram mass to the OEM, and it was 10 grams less... Thanks for sharing your tear down finding... I am hoping to to build a data set to calibrated the general capacity and battery mass... Given the generic chemistries and similar constrained volumes they all share in the note.
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This one lasts as good as the OEM:
tinyurl dot com/78wsn53
Synapse777 said:
I have a 5000mah hyperion battery for my galaxy note, and I ripped off the label and it says "1500mah" directly on the battery... further peeling of the sticker shows what appears to be 3x1500mah batteries under the shell.. so 4500mah on a 5000mah advertised battery.
I'll post pictures later but it says:
1500mah
YJT484461AR
12-01-14
ft.trillian.im/synapse777/1332431838224820-DUltqtFT.jpg
ft.trillian.im/synapse777/1332432180313557-miv0eJuz.jpg
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you guys think this is a gimmick? http://www.ebay.com/itm/5200mah-Ext...ccessories&hash=item4cfeb50af4#ht_2436wt_1161
I don't usually buy cheap stuff... but if there are three 1500mah batteries, or even two 2500mah's underneath that label im sure it would still last...
what you think?
just got my anker 2500, so amazing with this battery, after 2 full cycles, my BMW pro shows it's 2656mAh, even more than what is marked on the battery. I can say it definitely last longer than my stock one, which improved the BMW pro.
here is an other one's review in this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525175
here is my screenshot
shwannode said:
hi bodies,
i purchased a Hyperion Samsung Galaxy Note from amazon a week ago, which someone recommended in this forum. it's mark 2600mAh on the back of the battery, so, should be last a little longer than my stock 2500mAh right? but after a few cycles, i feel strange it looks like last only half as long as my stock battery.
i teared off the label whether this battery is good or not, see what i found, there is some code LS514664AR 1750MAH. 2011/12/19.
accoding to my mechanical engineering experience, LS514664AR is the serial number of battery cell, and 2011/12/19 must be the date of manufacture, and 1750MAH is the real capacity of the cell, which means this battery is 1750mAh.
much more less than the 2600mah they marked, and also the 2500mAh original.
i was so disappointed with this company, they made poor products for us, and cheat us more over! i will never trust this company again, anyone else have their batteries? just tear off the label, you can see what you get.
my attachments below
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Question, did you buy your battery directly from Hyperion, or some third party vendor?
Reason I ask, is since someone has mentioned, and I've also have seen it suggested on some youtube videos, that because it has some slight name brand popularity as an inexpensive alternative, third party vendors could make even cheaper copies/knockoffs.. To get more sales?
I would be more weary and ready to warn about the vendor you ordered from. This is just a suggestion, for all we know the actual Hyperion battery manufacturer maybe the culprit. IMHO YMMV
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Your lucky, my 2600 mAh said this:
Not my pic, another person ( Josh19k) posted it in an old thread...
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I bought the same battery and it was exactly what I was expecting from this battery haha you can't trust those specs at all but hey, at least they are pretty cheap!
slaydog said:
Your lucky, my 2600 mAh said this:
Not my pic, another person ( Josh19k) posted it in an old thread...
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I wonder if there are two of those 1500 in that...
I found some vendors on ebay selling what seems are legit "Samsung" branded batteries. Check this picture out;
Made in Japan / Finished in Korea, except that in spanish on the third line, it translates to Made in Korea / Mounted in Korea... Oops..