Hi guys, I currently have photon which I do like. I I hate motoblur, and end up rooting it and removing sprint bloat, installing different launcher, sms app, keyboard as photons stock offering is very much lacking.
Now, I always love custom roms which makes phone snapper, and right now, photon doesn't really have much to offer as far as dev goes at all... Specially due to unlocking method which kills 4g and so much workaround required to get it working.
I have an opportunity to trade my photon in for an evo3d. As far as raw performance gods, which is better? Is tegra chip much better than the dual core in the evo? I know that with the evo there is much more development going on to say the least, but is the device pretty comparable performance wise? Isn't photons display a little richer? Even though both are qhd?
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Im going to give the best opinion before a battle breaks out. Go with whichever one your happier with. There both good phones.
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The display on the EVO looks better in my opinion because if you look close at the photon it gets all colored its the pentile display. You will get mixed results about which phone has more raw power. The biggest differences are 3d vs global. The EVO also has an asynchronous processor and the photon doesn't. It's preference. Personally if I need my phone to last I can get a good 17 hours so I don't know if battery life is that important. But a lot of people saythat the photon is faster. I couldn't give you a verdict on that. They are both great phones.
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knowledge561 said:
Im going to give the best opinion before a battle breaks out. Go with whichever one your happier with. There both good phones.
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Well said knowledge. I think we all know how this thread will end up.
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Could care less about gsm on the device, i like build quality of the evo, but I want something with better potential, performance, and display.
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The display on the EVO looks better in my opinion because if you look close at the photon it gets all colored its the pentile display. You will get mixed results about which phone has more raw power. The biggest differences are 3d vs global. The EVO also has an asynchronous processor and the photon doesn't. It's preference. Personally if I need my phone to last I can get a good 17 hours so I don't know if battery life is that important. But a lot of people saythat the photon is faster. I couldn't give you a verdict on that. They are both great phones.
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Funny that a thread with this same title got locked about a week ago. Compare development pages too. Your answer is clear.
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Could care less about gsm on the device, i like build quality of the evo, but I want something with better potential, performance, and display.
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The display on the EVO is better. Again performance is a toss up. Ive seen very convincing results of the EVO heaving the more powerful processor but many people argue for the tegra two. You'll be pretty good either way.
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Funny that a thread with this same title got locked about a week ago. Compare development pages too. Your answer is clear.
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+1 just compare development page.
Whichever one you have is the best
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The display on the EVO is better. Again performance is a toss up. Ive seen very convincing results of the EVO heaving the more powerful processor but many people argue for the tegra two. You'll be pretty good either way.
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As a owner of both.
Display: the 3D has a slightly crisper display but even with the brightness all the way down the Photon is still view-able in sunlight. Even with the brightness all the way up the 3D the screen is barely usable.
Battery: the Photon is heads and shoulders above the 3D. I'm a heavy user and was able to get more than a day worth of usage.
Radio: Photon wins here again. Locks and stays connected to 4G, 3G and voice signals much better than the 3D. The 3D would always drop connection on me whenever I tried downloading larger files.
Performance: Quadrant scores don't mean much but I consistently got around 2700 on the Photon running at stock speeds. The 3D only got 2200 max at stock speeds, the only time I got 2700-3000 I had to be overclocked at around 1.5Ghz. Remember the photon is only running at 1Ghz ( no overclocking available yet )
Sense vs. Blur: Sense adds a lot of apps and additional functionality but I do not use much if any of it, so for me it's just bloat. I prefer to replace rosie with Launcher Pro. The HTC gallery would never load my picasa album but the Photon's gallery loads my pics fine.
I never used the 3D functionality on the 3D but missed the kickstand on my OG Evo so the kickstand on the Photon is a welcome sight for sore eyes. The kickstand works in every orientation except upside down.
I travel over seas a lot so the gsm roaming is also a great addition.
Before either device launched the Photon was my original choice but being a gadget geek like most of you here, I caved and got the Evo 3D because it launched first.
There you have it, my summation of the features specs that are important for me.
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As a owner of both.
Display: the 3D has a slightly crisper display but even with the brightness all the way down the Photon is still view-able in sunlight. Even with the brightness all the way up the 3D the screen is barely usable.
Battery: the Photon is heads and shoulders above the 3D. I'm a heavy user and was able to get more than a day worth of usage.
Radio: Photon wins here again. Locks and stays connected to 4G, 3G and voice signals much better than the 3D. The 3D would always drop connection on me whenever I tried downloading larger files.
Performance: Quadrant scores don't mean much but I consistently got around 2700 on the Photon running at stock speeds. The 3D only got 2200 max at stock speeds, the only time I got 2700-3000 I had to be overclocked at around 1.5Ghz. Remember the photon is only running at 1Ghz ( no overclocking available yet )
Sense vs. Blur: Sense adds a lot of apps and additional functionality but I do not use much if any of it, so for me it's just bloat. I prefer to replace rosie with Launcher Pro. The HTC gallery would never load my picasa album but the Photon's gallery loads my pics fine.
I never used the 3D functionality on the 3D but missed the kickstand on my OG Evo so the kickstand on the Photon is a welcome sight for sore eyes. The kickstand works in every orientation except upside down.
I travel over seas a lot so the gsm roaming is also a great addition.
Before either device launched the Photon was my original choice but being a gadget geek like most of you here, I caved and got the Evo 3D because it launched first.
There you have it, my summation of the features specs that are important for me.
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Nicely stated, if I wasn't getting the sgs2 next week, I'd grab a photon because of this. Lol
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Go with whichever phone meats ur needs!
Here's a screen cap of my battery usage
And I still have 30% to go.
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Go with whichever phone meats ur needs!
Here's a screen cap of my battery usage
And I still have 30% to go.
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From that shot it looks as if you don't hardly use your phone at all.
Your phone idle is using twice the battery your screen is using.
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From that shot it looks as if you don't hardly use your phone at all.
Your phone idle is using twice the battery your screen is using.
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He's also got 4g on. :|
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Here's a screen cap of my battery usage
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From that shot it looks as if you don't hardly use your phone at all.
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That's because I turn backlighting all the way down.
The screen is still bright enough.
I thought about it too. I switched to sprint from Verizon. I had a Droid x and decided to go with an evidence 3d. I had it over night and took it back and got a photon. It's way better than the evo. I'm not one for htc's sense stuff. The speaker is louder on the photon, camera seems better, and the phone is lite weight. I also like the trimmed edges
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Sprint is throwing all their money into marketing for the Evo 3D but the Photon is a better phone bar none. The Photon would be a beast if it had the dev support like the Evo 3D.
Even without the dev support the Photon is still better.
I'm rooted but the bootloader is still locked so no real modding/customization as yet.
I have 30 days to decide but I think my mind is already made up.
The Evo 3D almost made me switch to Verizon, that's how bad it's radio issues were for me.
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Sprint is throwing all their money into marketing for the Evo 3D but the Photon is a better phone bar none. The Photon would be a beast if it had the dev support like the Evo 3D.
Even without the dev support the Photon is still better.
I'm rooted but the bootloader is still locked so no real modding/customization as yet.
I have 30 days to decide but I think my mind is already made up.
The Evo 3D almost made me switch to Verizon, that's how bad it's radio issues were for me.
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Wow, the issues you have or had make no sense. HTC radios are updated and improved more often and faster than any others I've seen. Price for the photon already droppped a hundred bucks at bestbuy. The only feature the photon has that I'm jelous of is the dock to t.v. control. Other than that laggy and and the too much plastic feel are overwhelming for such a high end phone.
And their off!!!!
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I know I'll get a bunch of flamers for this and that's to be expected but after having this phone for a lil over a week now, I'm just not as impressed as I thought I would be. Idk, maybe not being able to flash ROMS & do some of the same things I could with my Evo & Epic, but this phone isn't all that mind blowing like I thought it would be. It's defitinely faster/quicker, I can't take that away from it, but thats about it. The screen difference isn't all that noticibale when compared to the OG Evo and still not as crisp or vibrant as the Epic imo. The camera is a improvement but also not by much. 3D is a fad, much like 3D TV's are. I think a Retina-like screen would have been a better feature. The new Sense is nice but it didn't add much over the previous one, plus we had it on the OG Evo. I'll probably keep it anyway and just upgrade my Epic to the GSII or Nexus Prime if they come to Sprint, but just wanted to see if there is anybody else out there who feel like I do.
Not with you either
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Not with u either the speed of this phone is just amazing and i can't stop playing with the Camera lol
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To each their own - I for one love it, and am VERY happy that I ditched that Damn iPhone for the Droid (have a Xoom as well). Im not really sure I see the need to post that you dont like the phone, like anything in the world - Some people will like it and some wont. You cant argue the overall power of this phone, the 3D is cool - but this phone is worth it if you dont use it for 3D at all.... My Wife loves her too - So much that shes going make me live with the damn Sprint Data speeds, she refused to take her 3D back.
You went from an already fast phone, to a dual core version of the same phone with added RAM and a 3D capable screen (in a nutshell). You wouldn't see a major difference. It's like going from a 2 GHz PC to a 3 GHz PC. Sure you have two cores available now, but for your standard functionality, you won't see much of a change. And comparing it to a super AMOLED screen, well, the phone's specs were published beforehand. I never quite expected it to be as crisp as my Wife's Epic, but I love it anyhow.
For me, buying this phone was a hardware upgrade. 3D is a nice extra. Also, I sold my Evo just prior to launch of the 3D for more than enough to buy the phone w/accessories, so why not?
Now, if you were coming from a Hero or something of that nature, then of course the upgrade would be night and day.
I'm very impressed. But I'm coming from a Hero that I hated from day 1, not an EVO 4G. I agree that 3D still seems gimmicky and hurts my eyes after a while but I'm even slowly starting to like it more too.
I've had over 5 single core 1ghz phones
Two of whitch had AMOLED screens
(vibrant and nexus s) and I don't like the fake "vibrant" colors that LED screens have..
And a dual core. (G2X)
I agree with not "feeling" the power for the extra core.. but I also disagree because its the future... Ice cream in Q4 baby!
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i hope your right; and sprint gets it out to us quickly
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Well coming from tmobile with a Sammy vibrant
We didn't get 2.2 till Christmas after they said early October... So anything is faster than that
Plus didn't sprint/htc get updates to the 4G pretty fast?
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I understand the OP. I'm 50/50 whether I keep it or return for SGS2. It's going to sit deactivated until I decide. My fully rooted OG EVO with a custom ROM is preferable to the 3D right now.
But yeah, for months of build up it was kind of a let down from the OG EVO although I think that's our fault. It's very relative. I was hoping for a great camera and now I don't trust HTC...meh.
I'm really liking this phone. The battery life is good, the display is nice, as great horsepower. I get this strange popping every once and awhile when using the headphone jack... But other than that, I'm liking things in HTC Country. I stayed in Samsungville for over a year, I'm not going back for even a more powerful phone.
I agree with the OP. My OG was amazing. The resolution on the Inspire or EVO may be less but the screens are better on the eyes when it comes to the displaysize. The 3D is terrible. Maybe they should call it holographic because it reminds me of old holographic baseball cards. It's quick but, so was my CM7 EVO. Sense 3.0 is meh, I enjoy the new lockscreen widgets. Although I do enjoy the bloatware removal, better battery life, and task manager. I'm debating an SGS2 for a change.
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The phone has grown on me over the past week..I think we will see what this thing can do with future software.. I mean my og EVO oc/d and rommed scrolled.fast. etc..but the gpu is several times proved and we will be able.to run future programs when the og EVO will struggle
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I agree with the OP. My OG was amazing. The resolution on the Inspire or EVO may be less but the screens are better on the eyes when it comes to the displaysize. The 3D is terrible. Maybe they should call it holographic because it reminds me of old holographic baseball cards. It's quick but, so was my CM7 EVO. Sense 3.0 is meh, I enjoy the new lockscreen widgets. Although I do enjoy the bloatware removal, better battery life, and task manager. I'm debating an SGS2 for a change.
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The 3d doesn't look like a hologram unless you move your display to a different angle..
It's a "glasses off 3d" technology If you knew anything about 3d you would know that you need 3 view points to produce and view 3d in the proper form it was intended...
To expect a **** to pop out and slap you in the face is a little much considering its a ****ing PHONE!
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Don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing the phone in any way. It's definitely faster and a nice upgrade from my OG Evo. I guess its like somebody else posted, I let my expectations get the better of me. The speed is undeniable, granted I never tried CM or any of the other AOSP ROMS long enough to compare speed/quickness but Myn's, Virus' & Mik's ROMS were pretty fast to me. The 3D is ok if your into that stuff but its a gimmick at best. I own a 3D TV & maybe have watch 2 or 3 movies in 3D. Got it because of the clarity & beauty of the LED. 3D was a extra. Now if they had added a Retnia or comparable screen then we would have something to talk about but this screen isn't any noticeably better than the screen on the OG Evo. Battery life is better than the OG Evo had at its launch but once I got my 3500 Seidio & SBC kernel, battery life didn't matter. I got 2 days on a single charge. Can't really bring Sense into it because we have Sense 3 on the OG Evo also. I guess maybe once we get full root & S-Off and can start really unlocking what the phone can do, my opinion will change but right now its not any better, actually below the OG Evo in functionality & fun. Imo right now I don't see anything this phone does any better than its predecessor.
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Coming from the Hero, this is a HUGE upgrade. Compared to my wife's OG Evo....not so much, until you look 6 months down the road. I think then we'll see the OG Evo's shortcomings. As the apps get bigger and graphically better and we have custom roms running on the 3D I think it will really seperate itself from all of it's predecessors.
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I played with one at a sprint store. It was okay. The screen itself and design was worth it but I don't care much for the 3d feature. But who knows maybe it will grow. I'm not eligible for an upgrade till October. So I will see what comes till than.
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See you, quit sucking up our bandwidth.....go somewhere else.
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And the douches come out to play.....Been here a lot longer than you buddy. On my 6th Android phone & can't count how many Windows phones before them. When you get some experience under your belt than maybe your opinion will count but until then go troll somewhere else.
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I hope you realize what you're saying about the screen..
"Retina Display" = Apple's name for a 960x540 resolution. The reason it looks a little better is because it's more pixels crammed into a smaller screen.
I'd take a 4.3 over it anyday.
I came from the Epic, and really really like both phones. I really don't think you can go wrong with either.
Simple question. How many of you are truly disappointed in the EVO 3D and consider it a downgrade to the original EVO? Why?
Edit:I'm not one of the people who think it is a downgrade. I have seen several people say it and I wanted to know why they think so.
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Your on meth
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I'm very disapointed in the camera, (locking up, low light pics, missing features) force closes, and volume. I'd say its a downgrade as it stands right now.
It does kind of suck. I mean nothing that it does poorly, just not worth the money. It has almost no features over the Evo 4G and get much worse battery life. That and the charging port is in a stupid location. No HDMI meow, kind of. 4GB storage, what a laughable and BS spec. I do LOVe me some camera button though!
complete downgrade! more ram. twice the CPU power (in one core alone) better Res screen, 3d feature, slimmer, more battery life..... complete downgrade /sarcasm
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notown775 said:
complete downgrade! more ram. twice the CPU power (in one core alone) better Res screen, 3d feature, slimmer, more battery life..... complete downgrade /sarcasm
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+1 and a +lol to that
The EVO 3d is better than my OG EVO in every way possible.
Wow, I bet you think the EVO was a downgrade from the hero too.
USB port location blows. Aspect ratio blows. Stuck with Sense, which blows. Performance and battery life on par with my modded EVO4G, which was great on the 4G, but, for a new $700 phone blows...(I only paid $24)...The camera is better than the 4G, but still not stellar. 720p framerate still blows, though the audio is way better and in stereo...
But on the plus side? Now I have 2 cameras I'll never use on my phone, lockscreen is rad, and 3D headaches! Camera button is boss tho.
lol, srsly I love the phone...I can live with the charging port and I'll come to terms with the horrible aspect ratio thanks to the killer resolution...though that is what I hate the most.
...oh yeah, bootloadar sux0rz
dca1970 said:
I'm very disapointed in the camera, (locking up, low light pics, missing features) force closes, and volume. I'd say its a downgrade as it stands right now.
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But how my 3D takes way better pics than my Evo 4G ever did. Less noise as well.
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Your on meth
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Nope, painkillers
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It does kind of suck. I mean nothing that it does poorly, just not worth the money. It has almost no features over the Evo 4G and get much worse battery life. That and the charging port is in a stupid location. No HDMI meow, kind of. 4GB storage, what a laughable and BS spec. I do LOVe me some camera button though!
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Interesting but I have to disagree with everything you posted here, except the camera button. I'm slightly bias because mine only cost me $50, but I still would have paid $200 for it. No features over the Evo 4G? Really?
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complete downgrade! more ram. twice the CPU power (in one core alone) better Res screen, 3d feature, slimmer, more battery life..... complete downgrade /sarcasm
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Not to mention upgraded wireless capabilities. The charging port location is subjective. Idk what "No HDMI meow" means but the charging port is compatible with an MHL adapter. And regardless of what is adverstised for the storage (that's another debate) what we actually get to use stock is about double what we got from the Evo 4G stock...
To all you clowns saying the camera is a downgrade from the 4g, take it up with this guy.
http://phandroid.com/2011/07/06/htc-evo-3d-vs-htc-evo-4g-2d-camera-comparison-forum-talk/
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But how my 3D takes way better pics than my Evo 4G ever did. Less noise as well.
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While I agree that's like saying "It's awesome! It comes with 33% less dog feces than the last model"
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The EVO 3d is better than my OG EVO in every way possible.
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This. Except maybe the kickstand thing, but I can get used to it.
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To all you clowns saying the camera is a downgrade from the 4g, take it up with this guy.
http://phandroid.com/2011/07/06/htc-evo-3d-vs-htc-evo-4g-2d-camera-comparison-forum-talk/
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Nah...something is wrong with his 4G. To be fair, so long as the lighting was good (or really good) my 4G took awesome pics. I understand the physics behind it so low-light pics looking like poo never really bothered me...
But, yeah, dude needs to wipe the 4G's lense...I've seen sharper pictures taken from inside a foggy otterbox defender.
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USB port location blows. Aspect ratio blows. Stuck with Sense, which blows. Performance and battery life on par with my modded EVO4G, which was great on the 4G, but, for a new $700 phone blows...(I only paid $24)...The camera is better than the 4G, but still not stellar. 720p framerate still blows, though the audio is way better and in stereo...
But on the plus side? Now I have 2 cameras I'll never use on my phone, lockscreen is rad, and 3D headaches! Camera button is boss tho.
lol, srsly I love the phone...I can live with the charging port and I'll come to terms with the horrible aspect ratio thanks to the killer resolution...though that is what I hate the most.
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I suggest returning your phone then, the performance is significantly better than the EVO 4G. I have the 3D and the 4G and the 3D is way better, especially with the battery. My dad has a EVO 3D and the thing lasts him all day with just browsing the internet and checking emails... I don't know how you are experiencing bad battery because mine has been awesome compared to my EVO 4G. If people are going to complain so much about the phone, then return it! Were all still under the 30 day return policy.
I'm tired of seeing these stupid complaints... Especially when people go out of their way to make a thread about it...
All these complaints are funny.
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I suggest returning your phone then, the performance is significantly better than the EVO 4G. I have the 3D and the 4G and the 3D is way better, especially with the battery. My dad has a EVO 3D and the thing lasts him all day with just browsing the internet and checking emails... I don't know how you are experiencing bad battery because mine has been awesome compared to my EVO 4G. If people are going to complain so much about the phone, then return it! Were all still under the 30 day return policy.
I'm tired of seeing these stupid complaints... Especially when people go out of their way to make a thread about it...
All these complaints are funny.
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i agree, but its with in there rights, its the general section
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i agree, but its with in there rights, its the general section
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True, but it is only polluting the forum. It's ridiculous because I see so many threads with complaints. I usually ignore them, but now it is just becoming annoying.
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I'm tired of seeing these stupid complaints... Especially when people go out of their way to make a thread about it...
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Well I'm sorry. Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. I started this thread because I was curious as to why people were saying they preferred their original EVO better. I love my new phone and am sane enough to know that it's an upgrade lol. I just wanted others' opinions
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Hi,
I have had my Evo since last year & I have been debating on switching to the Photon (I am not a fan of 3d so the Evo isnt for me). I was curious how much faster the Photon would be in terms of real world usage.
Any former Evo (not 3d) owners out there that can fill me in?
Thanks,
Rich
Alot, not to go into details, go to Sprint store like I did and play with it!
Very good. The dual core CPU & additional RAM make a huge difference in Android's performance capabilities.
RichTJ99 said:
Hi,
I have had my Evo since last year & I have been debating on switching to the Photon (I am not a fan of 3d so the Evo isnt for me). I was curious how much faster the Photon would be in terms of real world usage.
Any former Evo (not 3d) owners out there that can fill me in?
Thanks,
Rich
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the browser especially felt *much* faster to me..
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Substantially quicker! Don't get me wrong....the EVO is still a deserving player, but the hardware upgrades just make everything...."snap". No regrets here.
Everything is faster, trust me. I compare them all the time and this phone does everything with ease. Gonna still hold on to my evo for a while though. Although the phone is fast, there are some slight bugs that need working out. Back to speed though. This phone is awesome at games and the evo just doesn't seem able to keep up. The photon plays every game with ease and that includes tegra games.
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Everything is faster, trust me. I compare them all the time and this phone does everything with ease. Gonna still hold on toy evolution for a while though. Although the phone is fast, there are some slight bugs that need working out. Back to speed though. This phone is awesome at games and the evolution just doesn't seem able to keep up. The photon plays every game with ease and that includes tegra games.
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RichTJ99 said:
Hi,
I have had my Evo since last year & I have been debating on switching to the Photon (I am not a fan of 3d so the Evo isnt for me). I was curious how much faster the Photon would be in terms of real world usage.
Any former Evo (not 3d) owners out there that can fill me in?
Thanks,
Rich
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You are going from an Evo 4G to the Motorola Photon 4G, the first Evo was an evolution, and now we've moved on to HINT: BIGGER and BETTER things, to the Samsung Epic 4G, Evo 3D, etc, now you are here with a NVIDIA Tegra Dual-Core Processor with 1GB Ram, and roughly 9GB internal memory, and I would say AT LEAST 60% Faster.
Remember, you're with NVIDIA.
If you ask me to define NVIDIA, I'd say FAST!!!
the quadrant scores completely crush the evo
ill do a screen grab if i get some time at work
Photon Speeds = Much Snappier/Faster Feel...
I just sold my beloved Evo for the Photon via BestBuy a little under 2 weeks ago. I really, really did not want/plan on giving up my evo. But BB offered me 149buks for the evo and i took it.
Back to the OP question. Is the Photon faster? YES, you will notice from first use it feels much snappier. I will equate the speed difference to that I felt from my HTC Touch Pro 2 to the Evo. TP2 was slow, Evo felt really fast, Photon feels even faster. I thought the Evo was super fast, and it is. But I really didn't think there could be a big improvement over the evo in a phone. Luckiy I was wrong
I know your never supposed to ask for an ETA but.... Is anyone on the Cyanogenmod development team planning on supporting the Photon? I am a minimalist & want my phones running AOSP.
RichTJ99 said:
Hi,
I have had my Evo since last year & I have been debating on switching to the Photon (I am not a fan of 3d so the Evo isnt for me). I was curious how much faster the Photon would be in terms of real world usage.
Any former Evo (not 3d) owners out there that can fill me in?
Thanks,
Rich
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1. It's a lot faster than the old EVO which I also had.
2. DO NOT upgrade, wait for the Samsung in September. The no audio on phone calls is a very serious problem with the Photon and one that shows no signs of being fixed 100% by any means or method.
LouieGrandie said:
1. It's a lot faster than the old EVO which I also had.
2. DO NOT upgrade, wait for the Samsung in September. The no audio on phone calls is a very serious problem with the Photon and one that shows no signs of being fixed 100% by any means or method.
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I have absolutely loved my evo since launch but I'm getting itchy to upgrade to the photon. What is holding me back is all the little bugs being reported. Sounds similar to alot of the bugs in the initial evo launch. I was lucky with my evo but I don't want to push my luck with the photon. I think I'll wait a few months and see how the issues shake out.
Evo OG could leap tall buildings in a single bound. P4G can leap 1 and 2 thirds buildings in a single bound.
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You will notice the speed difference in most things. Dual core runs Android much better.
As for the comments about waiting for the Samsung Within, tired of hearing about it honestly. I was excited about that phone coming and have heard great things about it. However, still no guarantee it will be faster than the Photon or do some of the things the Photon does. Plus, when the Within actually does come out it will just get trampled by the quad core offerings potentially coming Q4 this year/Q1 next year along with all the other phones.
RichTJ99 said:
Hi,
I have had my Evo since last year & I have been debating on switching to the Photon (I am not a fan of 3d so the Evo isnt for me). I was curious how much faster the Photon would be in terms of real world usage.
Any former Evo (not 3d) owners out there that can fill me in?
Thanks,
Rich
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I came from the EVO 4G and can honestly say that the Photon is much faster.
RichTJ99 said:
Hi,
I have had my Evo since last year & I have been debating on switching to the Photon (I am not a fan of 3d so the Evo isnt for me). I was curious how much faster the Photon would be in terms of real world usage.
Any former Evo (not 3d) owners out there that can fill me in?
Thanks,
Rich
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Its a dual core phone. So web browsing, load times, app loads system writes reads, a lot will be faster. Motoblur sucks, so the home screens, Widgets and most everything that isn't CPU intensive lags like hell, like on any blur phone.
I played with the photon extensively and decided to go with the 3d simply for sense 3 and the pentile display pixel issue drove me crazy
The photons to gonna be faster, by a lot 95% of the time, have better battery, get better reception, take better pictures, and turn on faster.
Being an og evo owner also, I have to ask... why don't you like the 3d?
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LouieGrandie said:
1. It's a lot faster than the old EVO which I also had.
2. DO NOT upgrade, wait for the Samsung in September. The no audio on phone calls is a very serious problem with the Photon and one that shows no signs of being fixed 100% by any means or method.
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False. What's your source for that? I know my source is reliable, and there is a fix in the works at Moto right now. The problem has been pinpointed, and an update should be out shortly.
The wife and I were in a 4G area today and did some side by side speedtest. My Photon averaged double her speeds on here EVO. Ran about 6 test each and it was almost double everytime.
I went from the OG 4G to the 3D to the Mo-Pho & I am definitely a happy camper! Wrote uh blog about it, like the hear it? Here it go:
http://androidgz.wordpress.com
Pew pew pew! From my Mo-Pho!
How is the Motorola Photon 4G? I want to get one but wanted to know from any owner willing to tell me how they like it..
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Josh Talltree
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I would highly recommend newalker's review. When I got my Photon from a Motorola rep, I was a little skeptical, but I've been liking this phone more and more.
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Buy it. Honestly it was this or "Epic 4g Touch" and I love my Photon. Or wait and get the Evo Design and have a 4 inch display, 5mp camera, single core snapdragon, and only 768mb of ram. And way less internal storage...
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I posted a review of the Photon 4G on my website:
http://www.cdoubleop.com/post/8866866371/motorola-photon-4g-review
I had an epic then a nexus and now this and I love it battery life is amazing, radios are fast and powerful and screen is bright and crisp, plus the storage on this phone is crazy I have so many apps on this thing even all running and never have memory issues, love it get one don't bother waiting for the gs2 with the lower Res screen and worse camera and less storage. Take it from some one who knows samsungs, att the end off the day I guarantee it be like all other samsungs, glitchy, slow with software problems, and GPS issues and other radio issues all of their cdma phones have them. Get a photon cause once the bootloader gets unlocked and the gsm radios hacked this phone will be un stoppable. Oh yeah graphic capabilities are awesome btw.
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If its anything like the atrix I highly recommend it. If it gets an unlocked bootloader. If you can't void your warranty on it, its just your average android phone.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Its a pretty good phone but I think atrix better
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Best phone sprint has out right now. Once we get an unlocked bootloader with 4g, this thing will be Beast
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It does have an unlocked bootloader
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If the bootloader is unlocked then I would jump on it. It just came out so there is/will be a lot of effort put into developing for it. Plus it will probably at least get an ics update. That's not guaranteed, but it does help that Moto was just bought by google.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
i think it's sprint's best smartphone at the moment. at least til the epic touch 4g comes out sept 9.
for me signal strength and call quality are big factors. i've compared it to my friends' evo 3d and the evo 4g. in low signal strength areas - it routinely has more bars of signal strength than those phones. i've run speedtest's compared to those two phones as well. both evo's are peakier while the photon takes the steady and solid approach.
2200-2500 quadrant scores too with the photon. now if the epic touch 4g has great signal reception AND it's the more powerful phone (definitely) -- then i'll be the first to switch.
Did a little write up on both the 3D and Mo-Pho here:
https://androidgz.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/debating-on-an-evo-3d-or-photon-maybe-this-will-help/
Hope it helps!
Pew! Pew! Pew! From my Mo-Pho!
http://android-gz.com
Awesome and never read a more honest review.... Cheers I am getting the mo pho
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Its a pretty good phone but I think atrix better
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Photon is better because it is on Sprint.
Lmao. They're the same phone besides the screen size.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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the gs2 with the lower Res screen and worse camera and less storage.
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Except that it doesn't have a worse camera or less storage. A quick Google search will prove that statement is absurd (hint, it's built into your phone - try it).
I just got my wife a Photon about a week or so ago, and it's a terrific phone. It's everything I was hoping the Evo 3d would be, but wasn't. Great signal, fast, good battery life, kickstand and great volume. The screen is just fine also.
Go play with one and you'll see for yourself.
Im not on sprint but being that the atrix and photon are similarly specced aside from both having Qhd screens but the photon screen is 4.3 inches. The photon should get excellent reception, gps, be fast overall, has good wifi reception and speed, super bright led backlit screen which should be turned down by the way to save battery, and I don't know what size battery it has but it should get great battery life still. Tegra games and heavy 3g downloading can and will suck juice fast so try to be plugged in for that. Is the speaker loud and clear also? It is by far the best mono speaker I have ever hears on the ATRIX. Nokia wins on stereo speakers though.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
The Photon is fast as hell, but no frills. Don't expect a whole lot of extra options; it just works well and works very quickly. Build quality is very good, although the back cover is awkward to detach. Battery life is also phenomenal, partially due to its RGBW screen.
Some people don't like the screen though, because the subpixel pattern is visible, especially at high brightness--to me images on the phone look halftoned, i.e. they look like newspaper images. I don't find that distracting, and I actually think it's kind of cool but some people can't stand it.
If you're a power user and you want to get the most out of this phone, you're going to need 3rd party apps. Fortunately, I already own a bunch from my previous Android phones. If you use a home screen replacement, one nice thing about MotoBlur is that its widgets are normal Android widgets, so they're compatible with most home screen replacements. The Photon is also super easy to root.
So overall, I recommend the Photon. However, I, myself, will probably be exchanging it for the Epic 4G Touch on Sept. 9, just because I think that phone still sounds like the best of the new pack.
I'm loving my photon coming from Evo 4G. The only way I'd dump it is Sprint getting the iphone 5.
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I hope you realize that you just stabbed us all in the heart. Such blasphemy you speak!
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I hope you realize that you just stabbed us all in the heart. Such blasphemy you speak!
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I'm neutral when it comes to ios vs android. I like the customization of android,but the apps and the UI is of much lower quality compared to ios,and the whole update thing is a crapshoot.
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I see a lot of people hate the Evo 3D .....why? Alot of people are trading them for the Photon and i don't understand y.....
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The reason I keep hearing is the updates. I dunno personally, I got mine on launch day and never did a update. The other thing I suspect is most best buy/radioshack think it dosn't have hdmi out. Mostly I think it is poor salesmen who think the only feature of the phone is the 3d.
It is what it is.... People have their own reasons for not liking the evo 3d just like anything else. You got your evo 3d so just have fun with it.
It's the tech-train playa. People come and go so they can stay on the cutting edge of hardware progression. It was the same when I was with the Hero.
Just wave them goodbye on their journey and enjoy the awesome phone you have in your hand. I know I am!
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Just wave them goodbye on their journey and enjoy the awesome phone you have in your hand. I know I am!
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You and me both!!
But arent the specs on the 3D superior to those on the photon???
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I think its because htc did a terrible job of marketing the evo. For example, the evo3d is to the og evo as the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4. Maybe even a little more if a step up with screen resolution. Htc shouldve used the 3d selling point like apple uses SIRI. People thought the only reason to get the new evo was for the 3d feature. I do love 3d but the first time u see a 3d pic it is taboo and people never gave it that second look. I think they should have went the evo 2 route and when people went to buy it they would be like "it can do 3d also? Wow!" Apple had lines out of their store because they sold a upgraded phone with a bonus cool feature IMO.
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I think its because htc did a terrible job of marketing the evo. For example, the evo3d is to the og evo as the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4. Maybe even a little more if a step up with screen resolution. Htc shouldve used the 3d selling point like apple uses SIRI. People thought the only reason to get the new evo was for the 3d feature. I do love 3d but the first time u see a 3d pic it is taboo and people never gave it that second look. I think they should have went the evo 2 route and when people went to buy it they would be like "it can do 3d also? Wow!" Apple had lines out of their store because they sold a upgraded phone with a bonus cool feature IMO.
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Totally agree!
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Im happy with my Evo.. in my personal opinion the only thing that the phone is missing is sense 3.5...
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i love my evo 3d but another reason would be the lack of content especially when compared to optimus 3d/thrill 4g
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But arent the specs on the 3D superior to those on the photon???
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If that's the case, you wouldn't know it. The problem is, even with the dual core processor, the extra ram, etc, I still see tons of lag throughout the OS, in all apps. HTC should have spent more time tweaking Sense for speed and smoothness. The only place where the 3D really shines over the 4G is when using pinch to zoom in the browser, or in photos. I notice a huge difference there.
As far as working on the user experience, I think Samsung has done a fantastic job with their Touchwiz. Like it, or hate it, the menus are butter smooth, and it's almost impossible to find a spot where their devices lag.
Same with Motorola. I have noticed a little lag when using the photon, but the phone feels better in hand, and their "blur" interface isn't as resource intensive as Sense is.
I really like the 3D, but compared to the Evo 4G, or even other dual core beasts from motorola/samsung/etc, it just isn't the upgrade the 4G users were looking for. I'm hoping the ICS update (I plan on rooting, and installing a vanilla rom) will clear up any lag with the device, and make it run like it should have from the beginning.
Now, I'm going to go nag HTC to streamline sense, to make it run more smoothly.
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If that's the case, you wouldn't know it. The problem is, even with the dual core processor, the extra ram, etc, I still see tons of lag throughout the OS, in all apps. HTC should have spent more time tweaking Sense for speed and smoothness. The only place where the 3D really shines over the 4G is when using pinch to zoom in the browser, or in photos. I notice a huge difference there.
As far as working on the user experience, I think Samsung has done a fantastic job with their Touchwiz. Like it, or hate it, the menus are butter smooth, and it's almost impossible to find a spot where their devices lag.
Same with Motorola. I have noticed a little lag when using the photon, but the phone feels better in hand, and their "blur" interface isn't as resource intensive as Sense is.
I really like the 3D, but compared to the Evo 4G, or even other dual core beasts from motorola/samsung/etc, it just isn't the upgrade the 4G users were looking for. I'm hoping the ICS update (I plan on rooting, and installing a vanilla rom) will clear up any lag with the device, and make it run like it should have from the beginning.
Now, I'm going to go nag HTC to streamline sense, to make it run more smoothly.
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I agree with u on the whole sense pulling to much from that phone making it lag.it suppose to b a beast but yet it doesn't feel near as quick or sharp as let say et4g or photon.I believe that's another reason it gets passed up.n the 3d camera is kool but when it comes down to it u can't share 3d pics with non 3d phones n so it just basically a 5mp camera with a dual core that feels sluggish cause of sense.
So people just overlook its features cause I believe it doesn't feel like the great phone that it is.I hope when they make the new evo they will make it king of the hill with a better optimized sense.
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I dont see where people feel lag on the evo3d. After about a month of using a evo3d, downgrading back to a evo4g or nexus is almost unbearable. As for the photon, that UI feels laggy straight out of the box. As for sense, the real world doesnt like plain android. This is why everyphone has something covering it up. The evo3d is a powerhouse, so is the epic touch. I guess u can say the newer sg2s are to since they are about the same as the 3d.
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Photon's radio (phone, not FM) is much better than E3D's. Where I get 1 bar on 3D, Photon got 4.....that's a MAJOR reason to switch!!!
I never liked the feel of the EVO4g or the low screen resolution. Phone never felt good to me. I love the 3d because of the tall screen and the qhd and fast processor. I kept my hero when I got my 1 year upgrade on sero because I did not like the EVO4g. And I was the first person to get a consumer hero shipped from Sprint
Sense blows, I run viperrom with adw in the foreground and after a while sense turns itself off
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I honestly think it all depends on the phone you had previously. I had a samsung entro, which was just a regular qwerty texting phone. Upgrading to the evo 3d blew my mind. The entro took about 30 mins to boot up, my evo take 20 seconds.
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Photon's radio (phone, not FM) is much better than E3D's. Where I get 1 bar on 3D, Photon got 4.....that's a MAJOR reason to switch!!![/QUOT
True, the photon does have a great radio but bars dont mean anything. My evo4g lokks like it gets better signal than my 3d but i can stream youtube on the 3d and can even gwt a video pic on my 4g.
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I just rolled w/ the Photon for a week and I hated every second of it.
The phone runs stupidly; even w/ the removal of Blur and such; you CANNOT remove all the Moto crap without crippling your phone (see: contact fcs after you try and remove yahoo bullcrap); and the feeling of the phone in hand is pretty lackluster. Along w/ that there are just so many little software issues; glitches in the UI, glitches in the Radios (my phone liked to go into International Roaming at random), too much work to do the simplest tasks (see: using the stock gallery/music apps), etc.
Overall, sense aside, I am MUCH happier with the Evo 3D; too bad about all the hardware issues I've come across (see: 4 Evo 3D exchanges since launch). Hoping this little guy will last me until the next big thing pops out of the water. I was really thinking of hopping over to the ET or the iP4S but there's too many incongruencies w/ my habits of phone use and those devices.
Really, I'm putting my all of my faith in the Devs to step up to the plate and get some fully-working AOSP goodness on this beast.
Also, once ICS (stock) comes out we SHOULD get an upgraded Sense (even 3.5 would be a major upgrade to this bloated-ass 3.0) so I'm hoping that happens sooner rather than later.
tl;dr - People hate this phone because Sense sucks at life and because of the hardware build/quality of parts (camera, radio, screen, BUTTONS!).
:3 -two cents
People that hate evo 3D hate out of ignorance.
Let them hate.... 3d has some legit specs. flash miui and watch it fly....